Snit: "It is easy: you are claiming that your view of group consensus equals
reality when it comes to a view you believe (but cannot support), but you
run from group consensus when that consensus is extremely powerful."
Fact is most csma posters have noticed that Snit is different. Many cola
posters have noticed too. Here is what over *80* different posters have to
say about him.
----- NEW CSMA_MODERATOR'S FAVORITES! -----
Lefty Bigfoot: "I would hope that Snit decides to use this group for
something other than trolling, but that's not worth wasting time on."
Mike: "Why is it trolls like you keep asking the same stupid questions when
they've already been answered?"
Pawe? Wójciak: "Jesus Christ, snit...
<plonk> "
RichardK: "Just killfile him already."
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--------- (DIS)HONORABLE MENTIONS ---------
Edwin: "He's not the liar, you are. That's in addition to you being one
of the sickest, most twisted trolls this group has ever seen."
Mike: "Other than the fact that you are a complete fuckwad, what point were
you trying to make?"
Steve Carroll: "Sure... most everyone expects Snit to be lying. The thing
that is surprising here is that someone actually believed him;)"
------------------------------------------------------------
----------- CSMA_MODERATOR'S ALL TIME FAVORITES! -----------
1- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by behaviour and
not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I wish you'd leave too.
Please note that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have never
made the same wish of him."
2- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the truth, you are
flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting the newsgroup."
3- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If yes, then
troll. Otherwise, maybe.
Dunno why I had my KF on you set to expire, but it's fixed now."
4- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group, but since
Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a decent discussion
about anything.
The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people just
can't stop feeding him."
5- °b° unny: "snit makes me sad."
6- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."
7- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him "shit", and rightly so, for they way
he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the bus depot, and simply
refused to die, despite repeated flushes.
It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk* him..."
8- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility.
Maybe it's time for you to learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming,
of course, that your Usenet browser has a kill-filter."
9- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to "win" an
argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why must you keep this
up? What results are you expecting?"
10- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already misread what I
had previously written. What makes you think that you're correctly
understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a history of reading into
things what you wanted people to have said instead of what they really
said. I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you look
foolish."
Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost all of them
are making similar claims about Snit. When you have so many diverse people
who share a common perception where do you think the problem lies? With
Snit? Or almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an advanced
degree to figure out."
11- Dave Fritzinger: "Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do
something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!! "
12- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar and loser
you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me where i stop
responding to your posts for stretches at a time, then start up responding
as if you were a normal person. i suppose it's tough for the magnitude of
your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's sharpness when i stop
responding to you. you almost always start responding back in a semi normal
way, but inevitably degenerate. it's once again that time. i can only ask
that you pass my condolences to your wife and unborn child for having to
put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well, if your wife is a
loser as well, just pass those condolences to the rug-rat to be; if not,
double condolences to her). "
13- Edwin: "The worst troll this NG has ever seen is playing the part of the
victim... you can almost hear the violins playing in the background as he
whines... hilarious..."
14- Elijah Baley: "If there's ever been a better example of a sociopath than
this Snit character I haven't seen one."
15- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the points in my
post and you are back to your repetitious regurgitation mode. How
childishly typical of you, Snit. "
16- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been coming to CSMA
I have seen in the past year a real hatred among people, besides the
typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like being in
a room of really young children trying there best to best the other person.
The one common thing among all of this seems to be you. I hate to be like
this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a great
percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and more about
"look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end then all this picking at
each other on such a personal level. CSMA has always been al little
adversarial but you have personally crank it up to the point that this
place is no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making this
place your own personal circus."
17- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit (AKA
Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will drive you crazy with
his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He
will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his
endless pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger you and
feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!"
18- Greycloud: "I'm beginning to see what you people mean. Are we sure he's
a school teacher?? After all, school has started, so where does he get the
time to blow? "
19- Henry Flam: "Better still, Snit why don't you just disappear, please.
It will make the newsgroup a place worth visiting. Now it's a Snit Circus.
You're much worse than the Wintrolls."
20- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"
21- Jamie Hart (cola): "I was very deliberate in my choice of words, so far
in our exchange, you have claimed to say something you didn't, accused me
of deliberately removing context and accused me of calling you names.
You don't have a very good record so far, and I don't have the time to put
up with your posting style, so this is the last you will hear from me."
22- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people on usenet
that should be confined most likely. You sit there and refresh your screen
endlessly. You post the same nonsense over and over. Either you're a
super troll, or you're a super mess."
23- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit."
24- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git."
25- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a 12-step
recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't help me achieve a
greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from it and those
kinds of discussions have no place in a newsgroup such as this."
26- Jim Lee Jr.: "Troll."
27- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved in
seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of responses to OT things
and garbage?"
28- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather than
actually provide evidence for his claims.
Par for the course I suppose."
29- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to fall - in a
few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight, yelling at passersby
'sucky sucky, $2...'"
30- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are you
bitching about?"
31- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more like a
black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even entertain an
unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and lock it up? Please??"
32- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's postings since
I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter his posts, I just
consider the source and skip to the next one when I see his name."
33- John Slade: "Snit is full of shit and knows little about computers.
However I don't think anyone should leave based on how stupid they are.
Everyone has a right to say whatever they want. If Snit wants to display
his ignorance and lack of knowledge, he should have that right."
34- Josh McKee: "Snit, I assume there was some point to this posting?
Because I certainly cannot find it."
35- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother reading the
posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets of putrid
excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support your position,
instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming, hoping it'll all
go away."
36- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad hominem
attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad hominem attacks.You
make silly claims and then avoid the subject of your silliness. You're a
liar and a hypocrite and you always have been."
37- Lars Träger: "Yes, you are stupid."
38- Lefty Bigfoot: "I would hope that Snit decides to use this group for
something other than trolling, but that's not worth wasting time on."
39- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been an
annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the pretense of trying
to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is trashtalk about
Linux and you acting every bit the troll."
40- Linřnut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."
41- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most cretinous, I
would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)"
42- Mark Kent (cola): "Snit is an uber-troll of the worst order... Snit's
as likely to admit error as E.Funkenbusch. If he really teaches (which I
strongly doubt), it must be awful to be taught by someone who cannot accept
when they're wrong, this being one of the fundamental methods for
learning..."
43- Mayor of R'lyeh: "Here's a hint. Whenever Snit is involved double check
everything. He's a major jackass and loves to do things like this."
44- Mike: "Why is it trolls like you keep asking the same stupid questions
when they've already been answered?"
45- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead I can only
say that you are a complete and delusional kook that happens to inhabit
CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware of how deranged you actually
behave further reinforces this notion. Please seek professional help."
46- mmoore321: "Typical Snit response. Since you could not address that my
comment was about your message and not your sig you decided to do some
pedantic reply. This is a common tact you employ. Don't address the intent
of the message, but try to be "clever". It is a shame it is so
transparent."
47- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any pre-school or
kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach you a thing or two about
social behavior."
48- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them are trolls,
if anyone here has issues it's not me."
49- Nashton: "This issue was beaten to death. I cannot imagine why Snit is
bringing it up and why anybody would bother to engage in conversation with
him on this topic."
50- Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't convinced that snit is a
total loser, and I rarely call people losers, I certainly am now. Why
bother responding to his stupidities anyway?"
51- news/Andy: "Snit you obviously need to be more precise when you argue
with some people, or are you doing it deliberately?"
52- OldCSMAer: "Agreed. I don't see anyone coming in here defending Bush.
I guess Snit loves to tilt with windmills. :) "
53- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher:
Select offending Author, example Snit...
Go to the Filters Menu, Choose "Kill this Author"
Click "OK"
Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice.
Then to see your work...
Choose the Filter Menu again,
Then "Refilter Articles"...
Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing.
Enjoy!!!!!"
54- Pawe? Wójciak: "Jesus Christ, snit...
<plonk> "
55- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in Newswatcher but I
thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option with Snit. Ten seconds later
and he's gone! Amazing."
56- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were not
different windowing environments? Message-ID, please. Experience has told
me not to trust you on anything without backing evidence."
57- Peter Köhlmann (cola): "Snot is a hideous troll. Nobody is as dishonest
as that piece of unadultered garbage. There are csma posters even more
stupid than Snot. Oxford comes to mind. There are certainly other csma
posters who lie nearly as much. But no others are so intent on trolling in
whatever way possible as Snot"
58- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get superficial
snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions."
59- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long standing
war you have going with some person from csma. It's like you single out
persons to target your attentions upon and then continuously berate them
with constant barbs and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious responses,
which in turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum.
Above all things, your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature
aside, this is what convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting
this and other groups is to troll."
60- RichardK: "Just killfile him already."
61- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You trash
people that are trying their level best to cope with a horrendous
situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of what is going on."
62- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a troll. I
am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as a troll, he is ...
somewhat clumsy."
63- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if you quote
Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate perched on the shell of a
tortoise, I was merely pointing out that you run the risk of looking
ridiculous when you quote something patently stupid. If that's your goal,
you're on the right track, and more power to you."
64- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category. Starting
crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to generate a flame
war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux and how it can help you and
your supposed users why aren't you requesting help from a more
technical Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group?
As the old saying goes, those who can do, those who can't teach. Your posts
seem to confirm that saying IMHO."
65- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the -HISTORY- of
csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost hated, in a news group
before.
He has the ability to turn just about any person against him in just a few
posts. On usenet, trolls do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is
that I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a troll - damn what
-EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are wrong.
Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour."
66- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice. Honestly, even the
nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront made more sense than this.
You been doing drugs or something?"
67- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're probably
dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises to remove smut from
your harddrive."
68- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem expressing anger, i
guess. he has to vent his frustrations in other ways. and he thinks he's
making sense: well the syntax is there and he figures he's pretty smart.
indeed, he tells us, he's done the personality tests and the iq tests and
he's okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well adjusted."
69- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is that he has:
* a monumental reading comprehension problem.
* nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files.
* built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small cities.
* been labeled a disingenuous liar/troll (or worse) by the vast majority.
* used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it.
* stolen IDs and admitted to it.
* gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior.
* twisted more context than all csma posters combined.
* made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined.
* virtually no life outside of csma."
70- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of elephant dung,
and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in the "Snit Circus", but then
the cotton candy began to sour, and CSMA begun to smell like elephant
dung."
71- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has lost all
self respect and has sunk to the point of using words like 'asses' when
referring to others.
Oh, how could the morally superior snit have fallen so low.. Please take a
moment out of your busy schedule to feel embarassed for him. Or perhaps we
should set up a fund to get him more happy glue (and the appropriate
plastic bags)."
72- Stuart Krivis: "Dude, the way you act sometimes makes me think you
_like_ to be fucked with and encourage others to do so."
73- TheLetterK: "I am not confused by your claim (I understand it, and the
fallacious argument that spawned it), but I am indeed frustrated by your
refusal to admit mistake. It's really quite simple--you simply have to
indicate that you were wrong. No shame would come from it, and the issue
would be totally forgotten. However, your instance on proving your own
inaccuracy brings the issue to the forefront and continues to degrade the
tattered remains of whatever credibility you had going into the argument
(which is not much)."
74- Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see, you
never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why just the
other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of liars (in this NG
anyway) calling somebody else a liar."
75- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more compassion.
Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the poor sick fool can
get attention. My fucking God, he's taken to hanging out with and
supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah. It is true that no-one likes
him and those that pretend they do are just using him or don't know him -
but come on- it's not his fault. He's sick. Have some compassion, eh? All
these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they are
all so alike. I pity each and every one of them"
76- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way you could
actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to troll here."
77- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"
78- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into one of your
Circus acts?"
79- Tommy: "LIAR!!!"
80- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit. Most
people have him kill-filed and the few who don't mostly restrict their
responses to 'why don't you go away, no one wants you here'.
Just what would keep someone in this group with all of that animosity? Must
be some kind of severe mental illness."
81- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty" are nothing
more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you wish to define the
rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to alter or bend the rules when
inevitably things do not go to your liking, for this reason I doubt anyone
would be foolish enough to play your game."
82- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my sincere
apologies for this, PLONK!
Feel proud about that. You're the first person to be plonked from my new
computer! :-) "
83- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"
84- zara: "ya know Snit, I am one of your fans. I also admit to being a
Troll- why don't you admit to being a Troll also?? That hoilier than thou
bullshit, dosen't flush. "
85- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to draw more
people into the debate I'm currently having with Steve/Elizabot/etc' tactic
is fairly trollish."
> Snit: "I do not believe in consensus reality. I believe in facts."
>
> Snit: "It is easy: you are claiming that your view of group consensus equals
> reality when it comes to a view you believe (but cannot support), but you
> run from group consensus when that consensus is extremely powerful."
>
> Fact is most csma posters have noticed that Snit is different. Many cola
> posters have noticed too. Here is what over *80* different posters have to
> say about him.
>
> ----- NEW CSMA_MODERATOR'S FAVORITES! -----
>
> Lefty Bigfoot: "I would hope that Snit decides to use this group for
> something other than trolling, but that's not worth wasting time on."
>
> Mike: "Why is it trolls like you keep asking the same stupid questions when
> they've already been answered?"
>
> Pawe? Wójciak: "Jesus Christ, snit...
> <plonk> "
>
> RichardK: "Just killfile him already."
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> --------- (DIS)HONORABLE MENTIONS ---------
>
> Edwin: "He's not the liar, you are. That's in addition to you being one
> of the sickest, most twisted trolls this group has ever seen."
>
> Mike: "Other than the fact that you are a complete fuckwad, what point were
> you trying to make?"
>
> Steve Carroll: "Sure... most everyone expects Snit to be lying. The thing
> that is surprising here is that someone actually believed him;)"
What gives, Snit? Why did I get a '(DIS)HONORABLE MENTION' for this?
Does the truth hurt that much?
--
"Heck, OS X is not even partially based on FreeBSD" - Snit
"Sandman and Carroll are running around trying to crucify trolls
like myself" - Snit