Many years ago when I was a sophomore in HS, my History teacher, who I
consider a brilliant futurist, pulled a map of the middle east down, put his
finger on Israel and said; "this is where World war Three will start.
The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone.
WWIII woohoooo!
We need the Chinese to invade. The liberals will want to surrender to
the Chinese. The Conservatives will want to fight, the conservatives
have all the guns. We can then call shoot the Chinese and the liberal
traitors.
BOOM! America is great again.
>
> "high bidder" <bai...@bums.com> wrote in message
> news:11a0c$48f1d6aa$97...@news.teranews.com...
>> http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
> Many years ago when I was a sophomore in HS, my History teacher, who I
> consider a brilliant futurist, pulled a map of the middle east down, put his
> finger on Israel and said; "this is where World war Three will start.
Depending of course on how accurate your quoting is (not very I'd wager) it
should be noted that nothing that you have said indicates that this
"brilliant futurist" had said that the Israelis would be the ones that
started "World war Three" only where he anticipated that it would start!
> The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone.
I assume that you flunked history as by your logic if that same "brilliant
futurist" had pointed to Poland stating that that is where WW2 is generally
accepted to have started you would likewise assume that it was the poles
that started it!
What is it that you are disputing Walter; My teacher didn't say that. Or
the Israelis are a peace loving society, who are not occupying someone
else's lands?
Wake the fuck up.
Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem.
You tell a story which may or may not be true, you then use it as a
foundation for an erroneous conclusion!
> My teacher didn't say that.
Nor did I say he did, you however are using his alleged comment to support
your own bigotry!
I simply pointed out that suggesting where something may start is no
indication as to who may start it!
Have you any rational argument disputing that fact?
> Or
> the Israelis are a peace loving society, who are not occupying someone
> else's lands?
Are you going to crusade on behalf of all people that have their lands
occupied? If so you are going to be extremely busy!
> Wake the fuck up.
I have been awake to bigotry such as yours for longer than I care to
remember!
> Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem.
Except for the fact that....
"It is also home to Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Druze, and Samaritans, as
well as other religious and ethnic minority groups."
You must have made your alleged history teacher very proud? LOL
The story was true. The Israelis want a premptive strike on Iran. They
wanted one on Iraq also.
>
>> My teacher didn't say that.
>
> Nor did I say he did, you however are using his alleged comment to support
> your own bigotry!
My "bigotry"? Thats an ambiguous statement. Care to clarify exactly what
makes me a bigot?
>
> I simply pointed out that suggesting where something may start is no
> indication as to who may start it!
>
> Have you any rational argument disputing that fact?
>
>> Or
>> the Israelis are a peace loving society, who are not occupying someone
>> else's lands?
>
> Are you going to crusade on behalf of all people that have their lands
> occupied? If so you are going to be extremely busy!
>
>> Wake the fuck up.
>
> I have been awake to bigotry such as yours for longer than I care to
> remember!
Again, explain my bigotry This should be interesting.
"was true"?
> The Israelis want a premptive strike on Iran. They
> wanted one on Iraq also.
And Iran and Iraq wouldnšt of course? LOL
>>
>>> My teacher didn't say that.
>>
>> Nor did I say he did, you however are using his alleged comment to support
>> your own bigotry!
>
> My "bigotry"? Thats an ambiguous statement.
As we are dealing with specific comments made by you there is no ambiguity
as to your bigotry.
> Care to clarify exactly what makes me a bigot?
I have no idea as to what made you one ... Only that you clearly are one!
And that fact is proven by your ability to misconstrue an alleged comment
made by someone that you apparently have a high regard for into support for
your own unfounded claim .... For example...
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."-MJ
Your use of the non specific term "nuke someone" is a clear indication of
your irrationality on this matter!
>>
>> I simply pointed out that suggesting where something may start is no
>> indication as to who may start it!
>>
>> Have you any rational argument disputing that fact?
>>
>>> Or
>>> the Israelis are a peace loving society, who are not occupying someone
>>> else's lands?
>>
>> Are you going to crusade on behalf of all people that have their lands
>> occupied? If so you are going to be extremely busy!
>>
>>> Wake the fuck up.
>>
>> I have been awake to bigotry such as yours for longer than I care to
>> remember!
>
> Again, explain my bigotry This should be interesting.
And wholly deniable for a bigot!
>>> Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem.
>>
>> Except for the fact that....
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/4aju7v
>>
>> "It is also home to Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Druze, and Samaritans, as
>> well as other religious and ethnic minority groups."
>>
>> You must have made your alleged history teacher very proud? LOL
>>
At least you make no attempt to defend one of your irrational comments....
Although I suspect that is more of a reflection on your ability rather than
your will!
I really don't know what you are babbling about. You say I'm a bigot, but
you can't seem to give specifics, just a bunch of obfuscation. But yours
is a very tired, old ploy. I see it pulled every day.
Yet your next statement shows that you know exactly what I am "babbling
about"!
> You say I'm a bigot,
Bingo!
> but you can't seem to give specifics,
Aren't the statements that you have made and my comments on them specific
enough for you?
> just a bunch of obfuscation.
Your poor comprehension is not of my doing!
> But yours is a very tired, old ploy. I see it pulled every day.
When you proofread your replies perhaps?
Good -by Wally. I'm bored with your riddles. I can't entertainment you
any longer. As for your xenophobic persecution complex - seek help.
Since you can't point to a specific bigoted statement I have made - there is
none. It only exists in your sick, paranoid mind.
>> You say I'm a bigot,
>
> Bingo!
>
>> but you can't seem to give specifics,
>
> Aren't the statements that you have made and my comments on them specific
> enough for you?
>
>> just a bunch of obfuscation.
>
> Your poor comprehension is not of my doing!
I have not been following the thread - can you quote his bigoted comments
instead of dodging?
--
I think the Apple guys have a very good point when they say we should let
designers lead the definition of the user experience.
- Mark Shuttleworth (founded Canonical Ltd. / Ubuntu Linux)
An extremely ironic comment under the circumstances, or simply an indication
that history was not the only subject that you flunked!
>
> Since you can't point to a specific bigoted statement I have made - there is
> none. It only exists in your sick, paranoid mind.
As I said ..... "And wholly deniable for a bigot!"-Wally
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> C51AAE0E.50F9%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/14/08 5:14 AM:
>
>>> You say I'm a bigot,
>>
>> Bingo!
>>
>>> but you can't seem to give specifics,
>>
>> Aren't the statements that you have made and my comments on them specific
>> enough for you?
>>
>>> just a bunch of obfuscation.
>>
>> Your poor comprehension is not of my doing!
>
> I have not been following the thread
If the past is any indication Snit there is very little that you are capable
of following!
>- can you quote his bigoted comments
> instead of dodging?
It is not a long thread Snit and it only had two people posting, are you
saying that you are unable to determine any bigotry?
Here's a small clue .... " the intolerance and prejudice of a bigot".
Now ask yourself this question .... how did MJ get from...
"Many years ago when I was a sophomore in HS, my History teacher, who I
consider a brilliant futurist, pulled a map of the middle east down, put his
finger on Israel and said; "this is where World war Three will start."-MJ
To ...
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."-MJ
Take your time Snit! LOL
He's probably black. They blame everything on racism and bigotry. It's
their excuse for their entire race being a failure.
Wally go to www.dictionary.com and look up bigot. You definitely
failed vocabulary.
You spewed insults, dodged again, and made implications of bigotry you are
not prepared to support.
In other words you showed you have no sense of morality. Again.
--
Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
imagination. - attributed to Albert Einstein, likely apocryphal
He also failed to support his claim... and to hide that he spewed insults
and accusations. He did ask a *question* but showed he had no understanding
of the conversation he was in.
--
The direct use of physical force is so poor a solution to the problem of
limited resources that it is commonly employed only by small children and
great nations. - David Friedman
>> Good -by Wally. I'm bored with your riddles. I can't entertainment you
>> any longer. As for your xenophobic persecution complex - seek help.
>
> An extremely ironic comment under the circumstances, or simply an indication
> that history was not the only subject that you flunked!
>
>>
>> Since you can't point to a specific bigoted statement I have made - there is
>> none. It only exists in your sick, paranoid mind.
>
> As I said ..... "And wholly deniable for a bigot!"-Wally
You have been challenged to quote a bigoted statement from him.
And you not only failed you panicked and started spewing insults and
accusations against me merely for asking you to do so! In doing so you
showed not even you believe you have evidence for your accusations. Even if
he is a bigot the fact is *you* have no support of this claim... not even
you believe it.
--
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
that take our breath away.
As per Pratt's suggestion:
big·ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
Someone almost as stupid as Snit wrote:
"Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem".
Yeah... that's some real 'tolerance' to the race/religion/politics of others.
ROFLMAO!
And... no... no one will expect Snit to understand it;)
--
"Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is
clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much
just throw it away". - Snit
> > I really don't know what you are babbling about. You say I'm a bigot, but
> > you can't seem to give specifics, just a bunch of obfuscation. But yours
> > is a very tired, old ploy. I see it pulled every day.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> He's probably black. They blame everything on racism and bigotry. It's
> their excuse for their entire race being a failure.
Upon what do you place the blame for your failure to move out of your
mom's house at the age of 38?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
I can't really respond to your misinformation. Obviously the private
detective you hired ripped you off. Still haven't heard from your
lawyer. LOLz
You haven't made it necessary, now have you?
The facts remain the same:
You're 38 (or so)...
...and you still live with your mom...
...in a little bungalow that costs less than my one bedroom condo.
LOL
intolerant person: somebody with strong opinions, especially on politics,
religion, or ethnicity, who refuses to accept different views
----------
a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and
prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group
(as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
----------
One strongly loyal to one's own social group, and irrationally and
prejudicially intolerant or disdainful of others.
----------
one who is prejudiced against and intolerant of any group or belief that is
not his or her own, esp. religious, racial, or ethnic.
---------
Etc, etc, etc.....
Now give your definition of a Bigot if you can!
But just in case you thought that it referred to a large post in a ng that
was off topic......... It doesnšt!
Anyone that can arrive at ...
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."
From ....
"Many years ago when I was a sophomore in HS, my History teacher, who I
consider a brilliant futurist, pulled a map of the middle east down, put his
finger on Israel and said; "this is where World war Three will start."
Fits in nicely with all the above definitions.
But just in case you're feeling left out I have never suggested that MJ is
the only one!
No I didnšt! It would only be an insult if he were not a bigot, he clearly
is!
But hey if you can show me a rational explanation why MJ would link ....
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."
To a story...
"Many years ago when I was a sophomore in HS, my History teacher, who I
consider a brilliant futurist, pulled a map of the middle east down, put his
finger on Israel and said; "this is where World war Three will start."-MJ
In any way other than as a sign of his bigotry then be my guest!
> dodged again, and made implications of bigotry you are
> not prepared to support.
I am more than willing to support my view and have done continuously, I have
explained that after telling a story MJ finished with a comment that could
not have been derived from the story itself in any rational manner,
therefore it was an irrational comment brought about simply by his bigotry!
> In other words you showed you have no sense of morality. Again.
LOL!
I note that you are not willing to attempt to answer the question put to you
Snit ... Come on give it a go,
how did MJ rationally get from...
"Many years ago when I was a sophomore in HS, my History teacher, who I
consider a brilliant futurist, pulled a map of the middle east down, put his
finger on Israel and said; "this is where World war Three will start."-MJ
To ...
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."-MJ
How is that statement relating to *who* which is based on nothing more than
a story related to *where* not a sign of bigotry?
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> C51B55BF.5157%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/14/08 5:09 PM:
>
>>> Good -by Wally. I'm bored with your riddles. I can't entertainment you
>>> any longer. As for your xenophobic persecution complex - seek help.
>>
>> An extremely ironic comment under the circumstances, or simply an indication
>> that history was not the only subject that you flunked!
>>
>>>
>>> Since you can't point to a specific bigoted statement I have made - there is
>>> none. It only exists in your sick, paranoid mind.
>>
>> As I said ..... "And wholly deniable for a bigot!"-Wally
>
> You have been challenged to quote a bigoted statement from him.
Look at my first post at that time there was only *ONE* possible statement
from him that I could be referring to!
> And you not only failed you panicked and started spewing insults and
> accusations against me merely for asking you to do so!
I stated to you ....
If the past is any indication Snit there is very little that you are capable
of following!
If you find the truth insulting Snit then so be it, but the fact remains
that you only need look at my first post to see that there is only *one*
statement from MJ that I take issue with, and yet you are wandering around
asking me to point it out for you, you clearly are not capable of following
even something as basic as that!
> In doing so you
> showed not even you believe you have evidence for your accusations.
All the evidence a rational person needs is contained within the post that
my first post was responding to!
Which is why you are seen once again unable to answer my simple question to
you Snit how after relating a story could MJ make the leap to the erroneous
conclusion that he did without his bigotry being responsible?
> Even if he is a bigot the fact is *you* have no support of this claim...
Did you really come up with that all on your own Snit?
"Even if he is a bigot..." LOL
Obviously means that in your hypothesis he *is* a bigot therefore I would
not need to support *your* hypothesis .... You would!
> not even you believe it.
ROTFLMAO!
He is afraid to come up with an answer. An answer that would get him
laughed out of this group. He is a repulsive coward.
Ok, now we know you spewed so many insults you could not even figure out
what insults I was referring to! Quite telling.
But to get back to the point - the one you are running from - you made an
accusation of bigotry. I asked you to quote the allegedly bigoted comments
and instead of doing so in anything resembling a direct way you asked how
someone could get from one comment to another; in other words you asked me
to look up quotes and look for the context and then try to come to a
conclusion *for* you. You wanted *me* to do research to support *your*
accusations.
So once again, Wally, I shall ask you: Will you please support your
accusations? Please? Can you do so without obfuscating, spewing insults
unrelated to the accusation in discussion, and otherwise in a mature, adult
way?
Can you?
All I am asking you to do is act as an adult. I hope, sincerely, you can
rise to the occasion.
--
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing. - Unknown
He is asking me to do research for him in the same posts where he spews
absurd insults and accusations against me.
I am not saying he is right or wrong with his accusations - but what is
clear is that *he* cannot defend his accusations well and is unable to rise
to the level of an adult in this conversation.
Snit clearly is not game to attempt what should be a piece of cake for him
if it wasnšt bigotry that fueled MJ's comment!
Once again Snit proves that there is no purpose in his posting other than to
troll!
>>> dodged again, and made implications of bigotry you are
>>> not prepared to support.
>>
>> I am more than willing to support my view and have done continuously, I have
>> explained that after telling a story MJ finished with a comment that could
>> not have been derived from the story itself in any rational manner,
>> therefore it was an irrational comment brought about simply by his bigotry!
>>
>>> In other words you showed you have no sense of morality. Again.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>
> Ok, now we know you spewed so many insults you could not even figure out
> what insults I was referring to! Quite telling.
As I have not insulted anyone whichever delusion you are referring to is
immaterial!
> But to get back to the point - the one you are running from - you made an
> accusation of bigotry. I asked you to quote the allegedly bigoted comments
> and instead of doing so in anything resembling a direct way you asked how
> someone could get from one comment to another;
And the comment that I asked you to justify MJ making just happens to be the
bigoted comment that you claim not to be able to find, yet here you are
proving that you knew where it was all along! LOL
> in other words you asked me to look up quotes
You have just proven that you did not need to look up anything because you
already knew the comment that I took issue with!
"you asked how someone could get from one comment to another;"-Snit
Why you would need to look up something that you clearly already know is
farcical!
> and look for the context
You've forgotten that already?
> and then try to come to a conclusion *for* you.
You really aren't thinking straight are you Snit? My conclusion has already
been made, pay attention long enough and you may come to realize that it is
my conclusion that you are arguing against!
Looking back at your earlier effort (for want of a better word) I now
realize the problem that you are up against ....
"I have not been following the thread"-Snit
It is perfectly obvious that you still aren't as shown by the fact that you
need me to point out a comment from MJ that you yourself refer to!
Back in the quiet room for you Snit until you show that you can do better
than you have in the past, much, much, better!
Nobody has asked me a question that needs an answer yet, Snit has asked for
the comment that you made that proves you are a bigot and yet he has proven
that he knows which comment I'm referring to and even quotes me asking how
it could be justified! LOL
> An answer that would get him laughed out of this group.
So which question do you need answered?
Your story I have labeled as such! and your comment that followed it I have
stated proves you a bigot!
What else is there that you need an answer for?
If you are looking for the reason behind your bigotry ... Look closer to
home don't ask me!
> He is a repulsive coward.
Or she?
You denied your insults and you played games as you dodged offering direct
support of your accusations of bigotry.
Your games are of no interest.
You have repeatedly responded with insults and games when asked to support
your accusation of bigotry.
You refuse to quote what comment you think shows the bigotry and explain why
*you* think it does so - instead you quote two comments without context and
ask *me* to research how someone allegedly went from comment A to comment B.
I am not going to do research for you, Wally...
You have failed in your attempt to support your accusation.
--
Look, this is silly. It's not an argument, it's an armor plated walrus with
walnut paneling and an all leather interior.
Since I am not a bigot - there is no reason behind what isn't. You accuse
me of being a bigot, but you offer no proof. Cute trick, but an old one.
Your raging paranoia needs to be addressed. Seek help.
So you state that I won't give an answer but you can't even state what the
question is! LOL
>>
>> Your story I have labeled as such! and your comment that followed it I
>> have
>> stated proves you a bigot!
>>
>> What else is there that you need an answer for?
>>
>> If you are looking for the reason behind your bigotry ... Look closer to
>> home don't ask me!
>
> Since I am not a bigot
Of course you are! Your comment "The Israelis are just itching to nuke
someone." proves it, It was nothing more that an ignorant comment fueled by
your bigotry toward a certain race of people the intolerance and prejudice
is there for all to see!
And your later comment "Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be
no problem." shows just how deranged you are on the subject you clearly lack
the intelligence to think your comments through.
>there is no reason behind what isn't.
That is as stupid as some of your other comments and further proves your
ignorance, there is in fact as much a reason for what isn't as there is for
what is!
Bigots like yourself become that way for a reason, just as others can resist
following that path for a reason!
> You accuse me of being a bigot, but you offer no proof.
Your irrational comments quoted above are the proof of your bigotry!
> Cute trick, but an old one.
> Your raging paranoia needs to be addressed. Seek help.
You need to start looking up the definition of words before using them!
OH!! I'm a "bigot" because I don't like Israel and a "certain race of
people"!!! Now I understand.
I don't like Saudi Arabia or Eygpt either - am I still a bigot? Or possibly
that now exempts me in your xenophobic little mind.
Are Israeli "Christians" included in that "certain race of people"? How
about Israeli Arabs? Are they included also?. You make me want to puke
with your self righteous, racist, propaganda..
I'm now waiting for you to make the leap from a "certain race" of people, to
a more specific group. That is what you have been angling at all the while,
isn't it?
You are a disgusting, brainwashed Turd. Truly sickining.
And correct me if I'm wrong - haven't the Israelis been constantly
threatining, a premptive strike against Iran? Did they not prempt a strike
in Lebanon? And Eygpt? And do not give me the BS on how Iran wants to wipe
Israel off the map, when we all know that if they dared try, it would rain
Nukes on their heads.
The answer to the problem doesn't lie with killing as many Palistinians and
Arabs as possible, as you and your "certain race of people" seems to
believe.
It has been said many times that, Israel was behind 911. What's your take?
Since there were no remains to check, do you really think all the "pictures"
of the hijackers we were shown are legit?
snip> the propagandist lies.
Nah, you're a bigot because you can't tolerate such groups to the point where
you'd publicly (and ridiculously) exclaim:
"Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem".
big·ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
It's always fun watching gluehead argue with reality... now we can watch you do
it as well;)
(snip a bunch of whining by an idiot that either doesn't understand or doesn't
want to admit he's a bigot... despite being shown concrete proof of it)
"Steve Carroll" <troll...@TK.com> wrote in message
news:trollkiller-E93D...@newsgroups.comcast.net...
"such groups". More nebulous statements.
> "Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem".
Treat all problems equally.
> big·ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
> politics
> and is intolerant of those who differ.
Who is "those"? Does a know nothing cretin like you, even have an idea who
my "group" is? Spit it out if you do, Moron, I'm curious. Do you have an
ides who my group isn't?
The problem is; you don't know Jack Shit. You only know how to spout it.
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
>
> It's always fun watching gluehead argue with reality... now we can watch
> you do
> it as well;)
>
>
>
> (snip a bunch of whining by an idiot that either doesn't understand or
> doesn't
> want to admit he's a bigot... despite being shown concrete proof of it)
Feeling paranoid today, Moron?
Because I don't like the policies of a country, does not make me a bigot to
any specific group of people.
This little game of trying to quiet Israeli criticism as "bigoted", is well
known.
Killing Palestinian kids for throwing rocks, is not the solution.
You don't have the fucking BALLS to say what's really on your mind.
Those who know me know that I am a strong critic of American World Policy
and the Iraq War.. An asshole like you would most likely label me a
traitor. That's another tired old ploy.
"Steve Carroll" <troll...@TK.com> wrote in message
news:trollkiller-E93D...@newsgroups.comcast.net...
So "Nuke them all" meant nuke everyone on the planet? Is that your new argument
you're actually going to try selling?
(snip more inane blathering by an obvious idiot who doesn't understand what he
himself has written)
>> big搗t (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
>> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
>> politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
>
>
> Who is "those"? Does a know nothing cretin like you, even have an idea who
> my "group" is? Spit it out if you do, Moron, I'm curious. Do you have an
> ides who my group isn't?
>
> The problem is; you don't know Jack Shit. You only know how to spout it.
Steve has stated, repeatedly, that he does not think Bush can be said to be
guilty of crimes without a trial but he easily deemed Clinton, Saddam,
myself, and others as guilty without trials or even *contrary* to what the
courts concluded. Based on his own definition he is, undoubtedly, a bigot.
--
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
--Aldous Huxley
> "Mocassin Joe" <jmoca...@verizon.com> stated in post
> GypKk.43647$IB6....@bignews8.bellsouth.net on 10/18/08 11:06 AM:
>
> >> big·ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
> >> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
> >> politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
> >
> >
> > Who is "those"? Does a know nothing cretin like you, even have an idea who
> > my "group" is? Spit it out if you do, Moron, I'm curious. Do you have an
> > ides who my group isn't?
> >
> > The problem is; you don't know Jack Shit. You only know how to spout it.
>
> Steve has stated, repeatedly, that he does not think Bush can be said to be
> guilty of crimes without a trial
False. I said you didn't prove he was guilty... you know, with your "evidence"
that you admitted contained not a single true thing from which something could
necessarily follow.
> but he easily deemed Clinton, Saddam,
Uh... Clinton and Saddam had their trials.
(poor Snit, *actual* reality is just too much for him;)
> myself, and others as guilty without trials or even *contrary* to what the
> courts concluded. Based on his own definition he is, undoubtedly, a bigot.
Said the guy who doesn't mind proving that he cannot comprehend most of what he
reads.
> PS, you fucking asshole;
>
> Because I don't like the policies of a country,
You f*cking idiot... a "country" with "policies" *is* a specific group of
people. Did you think that the dirt wrote policies? LOL!
This reality stuff... it won't kill you;)
You don't like Israel?
How would nuking it change your dislike for the place?
> and a "certain race of people"!!!
So you are truly ignorant of the fact that there is more than one race of
people living in Israel?
Not to mention that not all the race of people that you claim to dislike are
residing in Israel, what would your long term answer to that be? ... Nuke
wherever they can be found?
> Now I understand.
You clearly donšt!
Your lack of understanding renders the rest of your post irrelevant!
> PS, you fucking asshole;
>
> Because I don't like the policies of a country, does not make me a bigot to
> any specific group of people.
So your reference to nuking Israel was supposed to apply to *all* the
different groups that inhabit Israel?
BS and you know it!
"Israel has two official languages, Hebrew and Arabic.[2] Hebrew is the
primary language of the state and spoken by the majority of the population.
Arabic is spoken by the Arab minority and Jews who immigrated to Israel from
Arab lands........
......... Making up 16.2% of the population, Muslims constitute Israel's
largest religious minority. Israeli Arabs, who comprise 19.8% of the
population, contribute significantly to that figure as over four fifths
(82.6%) of them are Muslim. Of the remaining Israeli Arabs, 8.8% are
Christian and 8.4% are Druze.[212] Members of many other religious groups,
including Buddhists and Hindus, maintain a presence in Israel, albeit in
small numbers.[213] Christians make up 2.1% of the total population of
Israel and consist of both Arab Christians and Messianic Jews.[214]"
Your idea is nuke the lot to irradiate just one group!
> This little game of trying to quiet Israeli criticism as "bigoted", is well
> known.
>
> Killing Palestinian kids for throwing rocks, is not the solution.
When you stated...
"Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem."-MJ
You were condoning the killing of *all* the kids living in Israel.. Jewish,
Muslim, Christian, etc all because of your hatred of just one group!
>
> You don't have the fucking BALLS to say what's really on your mind.
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."-MJ
Are you claiming that you meant *all* Israelis... Jewish, Muslim, Christian?
Of course not you were referring to just one group but it's you that lacks
the "BALLS" to say so!
> In article <C51F843B.DB5B8%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> "Mocassin Joe" <jmoca...@verizon.com> stated in post
>> GypKk.43647$IB6....@bignews8.bellsouth.net on 10/18/08 11:06 AM:
>>
>>>> big·ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
>>>> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
>>>> politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
>>>
>>>
>>> Who is "those"? Does a know nothing cretin like you, even have an idea who
>>> my "group" is? Spit it out if you do, Moron, I'm curious. Do you have an
>>> ides who my group isn't?
>>>
>>> The problem is; you don't know Jack Shit. You only know how to spout it.
>>
>> Steve has stated, repeatedly, that he does not think Bush can be said to be
>> guilty of crimes without a trial
>
> False. I said you didn't prove he was guilty... you know, with your "evidence"
> that you admitted contained not a single true thing from which something could
> necessarily follow.
>
>> but he easily deemed Clinton, Saddam,
>
> Uh... Clinton and Saddam had their trials.
>
> (poor Snit, *actual* reality is just too much for him;)
Hilarious stuff!
>> myself, and others as guilty without trials or even *contrary* to what the
>> courts concluded. Based on his own definition he is, undoubtedly, a bigot.
>
> Said the guy who doesn't mind proving that he cannot comprehend most of what
> he
> reads.
Or writes! LOL
Clinton was never convicted of perjury and Steve declared Saddam guilty
*before* his trial... if not there was no excuse for the war. And yet Steve
denies it is fair to call Bush guilty even though there is more evidence
than he can *possibly* refute. Just recently I pointed to this:
<http://feralhouse.com/titles/images/BushImpeachment.pdf>
At the time I noted I could easily guess which CSMA whackos would be
convinced none of these Articles of Impeachment have merit *before* they
even looked at them. I was, of course, right... Steve Carroll will still
not accept that Bush is guilty of breaking the law. He has spent years
trying - and failing - to find a reasoned refutation for the arguments I
have made against Bush... all he can do is repeat his Argument from
Ignorance. Here, again, is the argument of mine Steve has repeatedly failed
to find a reasoned refutation for:
<http://csma.gallopinginsanity.com/bush/>
He *will* reply, but his reply will not include anything that even
approaches a reasoned attempt at a refutation... it will probably include
just more of his snipping, running, and repetition of his failed attempts to
push his Argument from Ignorance. He is simply not bright enough to
understand how predictable and incompetent he is.
--
But if you are somebody who is not too concerned about price, who is not too
concerned about freedom, I don't think we can say the Linux desktop offers
the very best experience.
>> OH!! I'm a "bigot" because I don't like Israel
>
> You don't like Israel?
>
> How would nuking it change your dislike for the place?
>
>> and a "certain race of people"!!!
>
> So you are truly ignorant of the fact that there is more than one race of
> people living in Israel?
>
> Not to mention that not all the race of people that you claim to dislike are
> residing in Israel, what would your long term answer to that be? ... Nuke
> wherever they can be found?
>
>> Now I understand.
>
> You clearly donšt!
>
> Your lack of understanding renders the rest of your post irrelevant!
What race of people has he claimed to dislike? Can you quote him stating
his dislike for some race?
--
Projects should really look to the whole Linux desktop and see how they can
appeal to both sides.
> On 19/10/08 2:16 AM, in article
> VHpKk.43650$IB6....@bignews8.bellsouth.net, "Mocassin Joe"
> <jmoca...@verizon.com> wrote:
>
>> PS, you fucking asshole;
>>
>> Because I don't like the policies of a country, does not make me a bigot to
>> any specific group of people.
>
> So your reference to nuking Israel was supposed to apply to *all* the
> different groups that inhabit Israel?
>
> BS and you know it!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/62je3
>
> "Israel has two official languages, Hebrew and Arabic.[2] Hebrew is the
> primary language of the state and spoken by the majority of the population.
> Arabic is spoken by the Arab minority and Jews who immigrated to Israel from
> Arab lands........
>
> ......... Making up 16.2% of the population, Muslims constitute Israel's
>
> largest religious minority. Israeli Arabs, who comprise 19.8% of the
> population, contribute significantly to that figure as over four fifths
> (82.6%) of them are Muslim. Of the remaining Israeli Arabs, 8.8% are
> Christian and 8.4% are Druze.[212] Members of many other religious groups,
> including Buddhists and Hindus, maintain a presence in Israel, albeit in
> small numbers.[213] Christians make up 2.1% of the total population of
> Israel and consist of both Arab Christians and Messianic Jews.[214]"
>
> Your idea is nuke the lot to irradiate just one group!
Where did he state this was his idea? Please be specific and quote him.
>> This little game of trying to quiet Israeli criticism as "bigoted", is well
>> known.
>>
>> Killing Palestinian kids for throwing rocks, is not the solution.
>
> When you stated...
>
> "Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem."-MJ
>
> You were condoning the killing of *all* the kids living in Israel.. Jewish,
> Muslim, Christian, etc all because of your hatred of just one group!
Which "one" group do you think he has stated hatred for? Please quote him.
>> You don't have the fucking BALLS to say what's really on your mind.
>
>
> "The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."-MJ
>
> Are you claiming that you meant *all* Israelis... Jewish, Muslim, Christian?
> Of course not you were referring to just one group but it's you that lacks
> the "BALLS" to say so!
--
Do you ever wake up in a cold sweat wondering what the world would be
like if the Lamarckian view of evolution had ended up being accepted
over Darwin's?
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> C520E81D.5337%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/18/08 10:35 PM:
>
> >> OH!! I'm a "bigot" because I don't like Israel
> >
> > You don't like Israel?
> >
> > How would nuking it change your dislike for the place?
> >
> >> and a "certain race of people"!!!
> >
> > So you are truly ignorant of the fact that there is more than one race of
> > people living in Israel?
> >
> > Not to mention that not all the race of people that you claim to dislike are
> > residing in Israel, what would your long term answer to that be? ... Nuke
> > wherever they can be found?
> >
> >> Now I understand.
> >
> > You clearly donąt!
> >
> > Your lack of understanding renders the rest of your post irrelevant!
>
> What race of people has he claimed to dislike? Can you quote him stating
> his dislike for some race?
big·ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
No reason to limit the criteria to "race", Snit. MJ already spoke about a
country's "politics" and, as you can see, "politics" fits the criteria for
bigotry. Let's put together the things that are pertinent... just for you:
"Because I don't like the policies of a country"... "Nuke them all" - MJ
You can use the people of the country of Israel as the "group" with which MJ is
so intolerant of their "politics" that he would nuke them... (hint: that's what
"including Israel" means).
Perhaps MJ will be along to explain how he really meant to nuke the entire world.
See how reality isn't working in your favor YET?
Clinton said he was guilty of lying in front of the court. Saddam admitted his
guilt by signing the U.N. resolutions that he did. As I have said all along, it
is my opinion that these people are guilty of what they have admitted to doing.
> And yet Steve denies it is fair to call Bush guilty
I don't mind that you *opine* that Bush is guilty with what you have admitted it
no proof.
> even though there is more evidence than he can *possibly* refute.
Even the far left loon Pelosi refuted it. Try reading the news now and then.
Bush may some day be *found* guilty as shown by the *opinion* of some court or
other... until that day comes, in the U.S., we use a concept known as the
presumption of innocence. You should take your far left trashing of American
ideas and move to a country that is better suited to your wacky ideology.
The education system has obviously failed you miserably.
"I have not been following the thread". - Snit
That's obvious as hell... but I've no doubt that even if you were you'd be
incapable of comprehending what occurred. This would clear it up... were you not
addled in the brain
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone". - MJ
The Israelis? ALL of them? That's the claim by MJ.
"Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem". - MJ
Nuke them all? Does that mean everyone on the planet or has MJ some sort of a
"group" in mind? Hint: Anything less than the entire planet is grouping. MJ has
a real problem here.
"I don't like Saudi Arabia or Eygpt either". - MJ
Either? Meaning Israel as well as Saudi Arabia and Eygpt? Sounds like it to me.
Are these the people that he'd see nuked along with "The Israelis"?
"Because I don't like the policies of a country, [the context referenced was
Israel] does not make me a bigot to any specific group of people". - MJ
A "group" less than the "group" that comprises the entire population of the
world is still a "group"... regardless of how much medicine you've mixed.
MJ has made his position clear: "politics" are the dividing line of
tolerant/intolerant with respect to nuking a "group" of people. Now let's see...
where have we seen the words "group", "politics" and "intolerant" used?
big?ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
(Snit will now continue to ignore all realities that counter his faulty beliefs)
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> C520E81D.5337%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/18/08 10:35 PM:
>
>>> OH!! I'm a "bigot" because I don't like Israel
>>
>> You don't like Israel?
>>
>> How would nuking it change your dislike for the place?
>>
>>> and a "certain race of people"!!!
>>
>> So you are truly ignorant of the fact that there is more than one race of
>> people living in Israel?
>>
>> Not to mention that not all the race of people that you claim to dislike are
>> residing in Israel, what would your long term answer to that be? ... Nuke
>> wherever they can be found?
>>
>>> Now I understand.
>>
>> You clearly donšt!
>>
>> Your lack of understanding renders the rest of your post irrelevant!
>
> What race of people has he claimed to dislike? Can you quote him stating
> his dislike for some race?
>
I don't really believe that your question is worth wasting any significant
amount of time on Snit especially as Steve Carroll has dealt with it in an
excellent manner already!
But...
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone."-MJ
All Israelis? Is that what you think that he meant? or was he being
selective in his use of the term "Israelis"?
Do you even have a view?
"Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem."-MJ
Note that MJ has never stated who "them all" actually is or where they are,
only that he would nuke them wherever they may be including Israel!
How is he apparently able to determine who and where they can be found?
Does his knowing who he would nuke make him better that the Israelis who he
has claimed are just itching to nuke someone?
How is his stated answer to the problem which included nuking Israel going
to rectify the problem that he perceives with the policies of that country?
If the "problem" is to be made to go away wouldnšt that entail ensuring that
those who would re-implement the policies .... Couldnšt?
Could they be the elusive "them all"?
The questions I asked you:
What race of people has he claimed to dislike?
You failed to mention any race of people. Clearly you did not answer the
question.
Can you quote him stating his dislike for some race?
And you did not quote him specifying any race. Clearly you did not answer
the question.
Come on, Wally, why do you run so fast?
--
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing. - Unknown
...were intentionally limited so you could be as dishonest as you usually are?
Yes, he's well aware of that.
> What race of people has he claimed to dislike?
Why are you still asking about only a race of people Snit? Do you really think
people are as stupid as you need them to be?
> Come on, Wally, why do you run so fast?
Asked the guy lying hypocrite who is running away from any and all realities
that expose his childish bullshit... as proven below...
(previously, here:<trollkiller-6334...@newsgroups.comcast.net>)
--
"The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone". - MJ
The Israelis? ALL of them? That's the claim by MJ.
"Nuke them all, including Israel, and there will be no problem". - MJ
Nuke them all? Does that mean everyone on the planet or has MJ some sort of a
"group" in mind? Hint: Anything less than the entire planet is grouping. MJ has
a real problem here.
"I don't like Saudi Arabia or Eygpt either". - MJ
Either? Meaning Israel as well as Saudi Arabia and Eygpt? Sounds like it to me.
Are these the people that he'd see nuked along with "The Israelis"?
"Because I don't like the policies of a country, [the context referenced was
Israel] does not make me a bigot to any specific group of people". - MJ
A "group" less than the "group" that comprises the entire population of the
world is still a "group"... regardless of how much medicine you've mixed.
MJ has made his position clear: "politics" are the dividing line of
tolerant/intolerant with respect to nuking a "group" of people. Now let's see...
where have we seen the words "group", "politics" and "intolerant" used?
big?ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
--
The disingenuous Snit will now explain why he continually focuses on race... as
if that was the only component to being a bigot
Snit explanation goes here:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
big?ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
Poor Snit and his feeble little brain;)
<snip>
>>
> The questions I asked you:
>
> What race of people has he claimed to dislike?
The exact same race of people that are being referred to when Israel is
described as a Race Based State or it's laws as Race Based Laws!
*note* I am not concerned with whether the above terms are accurate or not,
or even the fact that the race being referred to may not even consider
itself a race at all but a religion!
But it is noteworthy that in neither case is the actual race named but
anyone reading the above will know exactly which race is being referred to
(except you of course Snit) any irrational statement such as nuking Israel
because of it's policies cannot be divorced from the fact that such a
comment must be aimed directly at those responsible for said policies!
Considering that the thing that MJ claims to dislike about Israel *is* its
policies ... Clearly when he said "Nuke them all, including Israel, and
there will be no problem." the "them all" was not in reference to all the
policies, it could only be a reference to the policy makers! ... ask
yourself which race in Israel would that likely be and you will have your
answer!
As I have said his intolerance and prejudice is there for all to see no
matter how indignant he may get in his attempts to hide it!
> On 21/10/08 1:44 AM, in article C522119B.DB92F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>> The questions I asked you:
>>
>> What race of people has he claimed to dislike?
>
> The exact same race of people that are being referred to when Israel is
> described as a Race Based State or it's laws as Race Based Laws!
Has he used those phrases? And what you snipped:
-----
You failed to mention any race of people. Clearly you did not answer the
question.
Can you quote him stating his dislike for some race?
And you did not quote him specifying any race. Clearly you did not answer
the question.
Come on, Wally, why do you run so fast?
-----
You *still* have not mentioned any race by name nor have you been able to
quote him stating any dislike for any race.
Come on, Wally, why are you so unable to support your accusations?
> *note* I am not concerned with whether the above terms are accurate or not,
> or even the fact that the race being referred to may not even consider
> itself a race at all but a religion!
Ah, you are not concerned with accuracy on any level. OK.
I snipped your attempts to change the topic - attempts where you failed to
mention any race nor quote him talking about any race.
--
I am one of only .3% of people who have avoided becoming a statistic.
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> C523E9D9.53D5%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:19 AM:
>
>> On 21/10/08 1:44 AM, in article C522119B.DB92F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>
>>> The questions I asked you:
>>>
>>> What race of people has he claimed to dislike?
>>
>> The exact same race of people that are being referred to when Israel is
>> described as a Race Based State or it's laws as Race Based Laws!
>
> Has he used those phrases?
Did I say that he had?
Ah! I see you *still* are not able to follow this thread, it must be very
frustrating for you that your very young offspring can probably follow a
conversation far better than you are able!
> And what you snipped:
Was irrelevant as I proved to you that the race that MJ was referring to was
perfectly clear even though it was not explicitly stated!
I never said that bigots in general have the courage of their convictions
Snit! I have no doubt that many of them take exception to having what they
are pointed out, MJ is not unique in that regard!
<snip>
>
>> *note* I am not concerned with whether the above terms are accurate or not,
>> or even the fact that the race being referred to may not even consider
>> itself a race at all but a religion!
>
> Ah, you are not concerned with accuracy on any level. OK.
Any level Snit? You're ability to comprehend is unable to rise above the
level of kindergarten (my apologies to all that have children of
kindergarten age that are still developing).
The simple fact is that the above terms prove that a race need not be
explicitly stated to be apparent!
And as for the terms themselves, I only use them as an example, their
accuracy is irrelevant wrt *this* thread! if you wish to discuss them
further do so in another thread preferably after your bruises have healed
following this one!
>
> I snipped your attempts to change the topic - attempts where you failed to
> mention any race nor quote him talking about any race.
There was no change of topic! you requested that I show something that I had
not stated! can you show where I claimed that MJ *had* explicitly mentioned
a race Snit?
What I did say was regarding MJ being a bigot...
"Your comment "The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone." proves it, It
was nothing more that an ignorant comment fueled by your bigotry toward a
certain race of people the intolerance and prejudice is there for all to
see!"
And I have shown where the "certain race of people" is perfectly apparent in
the comments that MJ has made on this subject!
I cannot be held responsible for your inability to understand the obvious
Snit!
> On 22/10/08 12:51 AM, in article
> C523569D.DBB90%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
>> C523E9D9.53D5%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:19 AM:
>>
>>> On 21/10/08 1:44 AM, in article C522119B.DB92F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>>> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The questions I asked you:
>>>>
>>>> What race of people has he claimed to dislike?
>>>
>>> The exact same race of people that are being referred to when Israel is
>>> described as a Race Based State or it's laws as Race Based Laws!
>>
>> Has he used those phrases?
>
> Did I say that he had?
You did not say either way - hence the reason I *asked*.
You now imply he has not. OK, so you are not able to quote him actually
referring to any given *race* of people. Fine... you screwed up in your
accusations... not even you will say what race of people you think he
claimed to dislike, no less show evidence for him actually saying he
disliked them.
You blew it and you have made it clear. Thanks for the admission.
...
--
Look, this is silly. It's not an argument, it's an armor plated walrus with
walnut paneling and an all leather interior.
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> C524955C.53F2%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:31 PM:
>
>> On 22/10/08 12:51 AM, in article
>> C523569D.DBB90%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
>> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
>>> C523E9D9.53D5%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:19 AM:
>>>
>>>> On 21/10/08 1:44 AM, in article
>>>> C522119B.DB92F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>>>> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The questions I asked you:
>>>>>
>>>>> What race of people has he claimed to dislike?
>>>>
>>>> The exact same race of people that are being referred to when Israel is
>>>> described as a Race Based State or it's laws as Race Based Laws!
>>>
>>> Has he used those phrases?
>>
>> Did I say that he had?
>
> You did not say either way - hence the reason I *asked*.
If you were at all able to follow a simple thread such as this you would
have had no need to ask....you would have known!
Thank you for demonstrating just how lost you have become in this thread
Snit!
Are you likely to embark on asking many more irrelevant questions based on
things that I have not stated either way?
Still beating a dead horse?
When I stated "nuke them all", it would be self evident to any with even the
smallest brain, that "all" meant the entire Middle East. But you knew that,
since that particular statement in it's entirety, has been popular for
quite a while now. The tipoff is the qualifier, "including Israel".
The statement, as you well know, wasn't "nuke Israel and all the problems
would disappear". Are you really that stupid?? To answer my own question;
No - just a cunning, religious fanatic, trying to twist the facts to fit
your own, and your "groups", distorted beliefs.
"including Israel" was the part that drives you insane, isn't it? Good!
FYI; Israel is a shithole, like the rest of the ME.
You are nothing more than a lying, demented, paranoid propagandist, who is
trying to separate "a group of people" out of the generalization to further
your own distorted, fanatical goals.
You are trying to do what the Mayor tried, but you lack the balls to try.
And your argument wouldn't hold water - especially if you knew who part of
my "group" is. They also support my statements.
My advice to you; come out of the past - it's a new world. It's feeble
minded, brainwashed, old idiots like you, who allow the use of religion to
start wars, kill women and kids, and embrace apartheid.. You use the sad,
old, "the bible says it's right" argument. Do you and your "group" follow
the ten commandments? Or are they conveniently modified to suit specific
goals?
Look into yourself; do you think you will come out ahead on judgment day?
You belong to a very sick, despicable "group". A group of brainwashed, brain
dead, religious fanatics. --My "group" wholeheartedly agrees.
Keep sending money, fool.
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> wrote in message
> news:C52526C8.5406%Wa...@wally.world.net...
> > On 22/10/08 12:46 PM, in article
> > C523FE4C.DBCCB%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
> > <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> >> C524955C.53F2%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:31 PM:
> >>
> >>> On 22/10/08 12:51 AM, in article
> >>> C523569D.DBB90%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
> >>> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
> >>>> C523E9D9.53D5%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:19 AM:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 21/10/08 1:44 AM, in article
> >>>>> C522119B.DB92F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
> >>>>> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <snip> all the fanatical distortions.
>
> Still beating a dead horse?
>
> When I stated "nuke them all", it would be self evident to any with even the
> smallest brain, that "all" meant the entire Middle East.
That's makes your position appear *so* much more 'tolerant'. What's next,
Southeast Asia? LOL!
(snip crap)
Run out of steam??
I'm not "tolerant". I never claimed to be. If I were "King of the World",
there would be 75% less people. But fortunately for you and your ilk, I'm
not.
You, not I, are the one who made an accusation in terms of a race of people
you have completely failed to even mention, no less quote someone else
referring to the race you claim they were showing bigotry against.
Your buddy Steve Carroll, of course, saw you were making an idiot of
yourself so he jumped in and accused me of bringing up the concept of
race... even though I was clearly asking you about *your* references.
You and he and Tim Adams are now in full attack-mode trying to cover each
others clear errors. Why do you pal around with such scum? As has been
shown, you are not willing to sink to the levels that they are and, of
course, you are not as obsessed as they are - you do not join the two of
them in their inability to cease referring to me in their *every* post. Can
you not see how you merely feed their sickness when you dishonestly pretend
they are showing any signs of rationality with the BS?
>
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> wrote in message
> news:C52526C8.5406%Wa...@wally.world.net...
>> On 22/10/08 12:46 PM, in article
>> C523FE4C.DBCCB%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
>> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
>>> C524955C.53F2%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:31 PM:
>>>
>>>> On 22/10/08 12:51 AM, in article
>>>> C523569D.DBB90%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
>>>> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
>>>>> C523E9D9.53D5%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:19 AM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/10/08 1:44 AM, in article
>>>>>> C522119B.DB92F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>>>>>> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip> all the fanatical distortions.
>
> Still beating a dead horse?
If that is how you see yourself!
> You, ....................
So can I assume that is a no?
Your statements accusing me of bigotry, have now vaporized into hot air. All
your clipping, cannot alter the fact.
>> You, ....................
>
> So can I assume that is a no?
* You accused someone of being bigoted against a race
* You cannot even state what race they were being
allegedly bigoted against
* You cannot quote them making any comments about any
given race.
You have made it clear your accusation was in error. You are now lashing
out because I noted your error. You, along with Carroll and Adams, are
entering one of your manic phases of trolling. I am asking you to end your
BS now before you humiliate yourself even more.
--
BU__SH__
He claimed you were showing bigotry against a race... but he not only cannot
find any quotes of you talking about a race, he is unable to say what race
he thinks you were being bigoted against!
This is not to say I agree with your comments... but if Wally is going to
start accusing you of bigotry against a race he should at least be able to
figure out what race *he* is referencing! And Steve Carroll, one of his
core trolling buddies, once again jumped in to try to "help" Wally but
merely made it clear that not even he can figure out where the idea of
*race* came into the discussion... other than Wally's accusations, that is.
--
Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.
--Albert Einstein
Steve jumped from calling me a "bigot", to accusing me of "intolerance".
Your persistent idiocy is all the steam needed.
> I'm not "tolerant".
I know... and the method with which you've chosen to express that intolerance to
the group of people that you have (and for the reason that you have) is what
makes you a bigot.
> I never claimed to be. If I were "King of the World", there would be 75% less
> people.
You've been over to Snit's house, haven't you? Stay away from open flames;)
> But fortunately for you and your ilk, I'm not.
Yeah... I feel so lucky <eyeroll>.
big?ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics
and is intolerant of those who differ.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
Lemme know when you think you finally have a grasp on this, tinybrain.
Steve is someone who nit picks the wording of others... it is one of his
primary trolling techniques... but he uses and understands the language very
poorly. That is a part of the reason he got himself so twisted in his
idiocy where he is left trying to defend why he thinks it is fair to call
anyone who is *not* Bush "guilty" when there is a lack of court finding - or
even contrary to a court finding - but to call Bush "guilty", no matter how
strong the evidence is and how incapable he is of refuting it, is somehow
contrary to the presumption of innocence afforded someone in an adjudication
process.
In this case Steve jumped in to help his co-troll Wally with the accusations
of "bigotry" but Steve showed he could not even understand why Wally brought
up race in terms of his accusations. Steve has no idea what is being
discussed - he simply is lashing out in anger. Note how he sinks to name
calling and focuses on his drug obsession. He and his co-trolls Wally and
Tim Adams are entering one of their manic phases of trolling - I suspect
they all are sharing in whatever bad drugs they use.
--
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
--Albert Einstein
Sock sniffing pantywaists!
You are asking people with no self worth or pride in themselves. Now they
will skulk away to regroup around another spurious flag.
You're getting boring now. No need for me to respond to your inchorent
babblings any longer, socksniffer.
The *clearly* are entering another of their manic phases - Carroll, Adams,
and Wally often spike at the same time. Given the amount of focus at least
some of them admit to having with drugs I suspect that they occasionally get
a bad batch of whatever it is they take. Or maybe in their view a really
good batch. Whatever.
I will say that Wally, as offensive, irrational, and dishonest as he is,
does not generally sink to the level of the other two.
--
I think the Apple guys have a very good point when they say we should let
designers lead the definition of the user experience.
- Mark Shuttleworth (founded Canonical Ltd. / Ubuntu Linux)
Look for others to jump in to defend this bunch. The following are known
names of Steve Carroll - I am sure he uses more:
"Evil" John
"Evil" Snit
Cornelius Munshower
CSMA Moderator
Fretwiz
Measles
Petruzzellis Kids
Sigmond
Smit
Steve Camoll
Steve Carroll
Steve Carrroll
Steve Carrolll
Yevette Owens
--
"For example, user interfaces are _usually_ better in commercial software.
I'm not saying that this is always true, but in many cases the user
interface to a program is the most important part for a commercial
company..." Linus Torvalds <http://www.tlug.jp/docs/linus.html>
...
>>> Run out of steam??
>>>
>> Your persistent idiocy is all the steam needed.
>>
>>> I'm not "tolerant".
>>>
>> I know... and the method with which you've chosen to express that intolerance
>> to the group of people that you have (and for the reason that you have) is
>> what makes you a bigot.
>>
>>> I never claimed to be. If I were "King of the World", there would be 75%
>>> less people.
>>>
>> You've been over to Snit's house, haven't you? Stay away from open flames;)
>>
>>> But fortunately for you and your ilk, I'm not.
>>>
>> Yeah... I feel so lucky <eyeroll>.
>>
>> big?ot (b?g'?t) Pronunciation Key
>> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
>> politics
>> and is intolerant of those who differ.
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
>>
>> Lemme know when you think you finally have a grasp on this, tinybrain.
>
> You're getting boring now. No need for me to respond to your inchorent
> babblings any longer, socksniffer.
>
>
I have stopped responding to or even reading most of Carroll's posts. It
will be interesting to see who he next "targets" with his trolling... to use
his word.
Oh, and based on Steve's definition he has just made it clear he knows *he*
is a bigot. Ask him someday about his reasoning for calling gay people
"parasites". His "defense" is that when he begged to not be seen as a
homophobe I, foolishly, accepted his whining... though he later proved I was
wrong to do so. He also mocks blacks and has even insisted that the only
reason Obama is doing well is because of his color. Steve has claimed
teaching is not a "real job" and has shown disdain for other groups as well.
His defense is that he does not really mean what he says but that it should
only apply to certain teachers or certain blacks or certain gays...
--
I can't say we will succeed at this, but we will make a significant attempt
to elevate the Linux desktop to the point where it is as good or better than
Apple.
He seems old and befuddled.
Translation:
I see the definition and realize that I fit it to a tee, therefore... I need to
run away while crowing that I've "won" the argument.
LOL!
Of course you have;)
(snip delusions by an overmedicated newsgroup nitwit)
...
>>>> * You accused someone of being bigoted against a race
>>>> * You cannot even state what race they were being
>>>> allegedly bigoted against
>>>> * You cannot quote them making any comments about any
>>>> given race.
>>>>
>>>> You have made it clear your accusation was in error. You are now lashing
>>>> out because I noted your error. You, along with Carroll and Adams, are
>>>> entering one of your manic phases of trolling. I am asking you to end your
>>>> BS now before you humiliate yourself even more.
>>>>
>>> You are asking people with no self worth or pride in themselves. Now they
>>> will skulk away to regroup around another spurious flag.
>>>
>> The *clearly* are entering another of their manic phases - Carroll, Adams,
>> and Wally often spike at the same time. Given the amount of focus at least
>> some of them admit to having with drugs I suspect that they occasionally get
>> a bad batch of whatever it is they take. Or maybe in their view a really
>> good batch. Whatever.
>>
>> I will say that Wally, as offensive, irrational, and dishonest as he is, does
>> not generally sink to the level of the other two.
>>
> He seems old and befuddled.
Wally certainly is befuddled. Here are some comments of his about subsets:
I gave a clear example as to when a subset with 0 elements
would not actually be empty as you claimed that it would!
But zero items does not necessarily translate to being empty
as you have said it would!
your delusion is that something that owes its very existence
to the fact that it contains information can in fact be
...empty!
whether it is written {} or {0} has no significance wrt what
the answer actually is
it makes no difference if you write {} and I write {0}
because the meaning is exactly the same ...0 elements!
Now research why a "subset" cannot be "empty"
He never even admitted how absurd his comments were!
--
Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
imagination. - attributed to Albert Einstein, likely apocryphal
"When I stated "nuke them all", it would be self evident to any with even the
smallest brain, that "all" meant the entire Middle East". - MJ
Priceless;)
Really? ...Then you should get a more efficient news reader .... They are
all still there in mine!
> All your clipping, cannot alter the fact.
See above!
>
> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> wrote in message
> news:C52526C8.5406%Wa...@wally.world.net...
>> On 22/10/08 12:46 PM, in article
>> C523FE4C.DBCCB%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
>> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
>>> C524955C.53F2%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:31 PM:
>>>
>>>> On 22/10/08 12:51 AM, in article
>>>> C523569D.DBB90%use...@gallopinginsanity.com, "Snit"
>>>> <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Wally" <Wa...@wally.world.net> stated in post
>>>>> C523E9D9.53D5%Wa...@wally.world.net on 10/21/08 5:19 AM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/10/08 1:44 AM, in article
>>>>>> C522119B.DB92F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
>>>>>> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip> all the fanatical distortions.
>
> Still beating a dead horse?
>
> When I stated "nuke them all", it would be self evident to any with even the
> smallest brain, that "all" meant the entire Middle East.
Note*.... "the entire Middle East."
> But you knew that,
> since that particular statement in it's entirety, has been popular for
> quite a while now. The tipoff is the qualifier, "including Israel".
Why add a qualifier when you have already stated "the entire Middle East"?
Easy, Because Israel was the target of your "nuke" comment!
If someone said that they hated colors there would be no need for them to
add 'including red' unless red was uppermost in their hatred!
Like I said I have never accused you of having the courage of your
convictions MJ, denial may not be a river but it certainly is refuge to a
bigot!
<padding removed>
What I find really funny is snit asking you 'which race of people' was MJ
referring to that made you call him a bigot, when it was snit, and snit alone
that dragged this 'race of people' into the conversation.
Proving once again that he doesn't understand the meaning of the word bigot and
at the same time pointing out the fact that many people that 'play the race
card' like snit did, are themselves closet racist. Then again, it might just be
the drugs that snit's taking but I sort of doubt it.
--
regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Only to people like you. People like you like to sepearate Israel from the
rest of the ME.
So - now your true colors show. You are pathetic.
You are twisting facts, again. Wally said "group of people", but refuses to
identify a "group of people". Why? Becaues he cannot.
>snip the NE.
You haven't addressed my, "The Israelis are just itching to nuke someone.",
statement. I can't believe you overlooked that one. Or is the truth too
strong to reverse?
I think you're spot on with this.
> Then again, it might just
> be the drugs that snit's taking but I sort of doubt it.
While his drugs produce a lot of other effects we see Snit suffer through, your
suggestion that he's a closet racist hits the nail on the head IMO. Snit is
always going way out on a limb to make people appear other than what they are...
and he's often projecting when he does it. I'm confident this is no different.
You identified one of the groups right away, airhead ("the Israelis")... and you
based it on your faulty and unproven premise that "The Israelis are just itching
to nuke someone"... a claim that the hypocritical bigot Snit, notably, did not
challenge.
Yes I did. So why couldn't Wally just say that? Why did he resort to all
that smoke and mirrors?
Did I lie about something on this thread??
The Israelis are itching to Nuke someone. They said so.
I don't like Israel. Am I permitted?
Thank God that assholes like you and Wally have no power.
Yeah - the brown one on your nose.
>snip the disjointed ravings.
Feel free to explain why it was Snit that mentioned race any time you'd like.
All of The Israelis said so? Or will you be breaking those that "said so" into a
smaller "group"? See your problem here yet, genius?
> I don't like Israel. Am I permitted?
Of course... just like I'm permitted to rightfully call you a bigot for
suggesting to nuke simply because you disagree with some of the Israelis over
certain political issues.
> Thank God that assholes like you and Wally have no power.
Said the guy who entertains a delusion about being "King of the World"... the
same guy who would "Nuke them all". LOL!
...
>>> You are twisting facts, again. Wally said "group of people", but refuses to
>>> identify a "group of people". Why? Becaues he cannot.
>>>
>> You identified one of the groups right away, airhead ("the Israelis")... and
>> you based it on your faulty and unproven premise that "The Israelis are just
>> itching to nuke someone"... a claim that the hypocritical bigot Snit,
>> notably, did not challenge.
>
>
> Yes I did. So why couldn't Wally just say that? Why did he resort to all
> that smoke and mirrors?
>
> Did I lie about something on this thread??
>
> The Israelis are itching to Nuke someone. They said so.
Wally turned your views on that into you talking about a *race* of people...
but then he cannot even say what race he means... and Carroll was so
confused he thought I brought up race.
>
> I don't like Israel. Am I permitted?
No skin off my nose - and no implication that you do not like any given race
if you do not like Israel - either in culture or politics or whatever.
> Thank God that assholes like you and Wally have no power.
Carroll has made it clear he does not even vote - likely because of a felony
record though Steve will not talk about it in any detail. Why he even made
any of it public, frankly, was bizarre.
--
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing. - Unknown
>> What I find really funny is snit asking you 'which race of people' was MJ
>> referring to that made you call him a bigot, when it was snit, and snit
>> alone
>> that dragged this 'race of people' into the conversation.
>
>
> You are twisting facts, again. Wally said "group of people", but refuses to
> identify a "group of people". Why? Becaues he cannot.
Wally:
Not to mention that not all the race of people that you claim
to dislike ...
Snit:
What race of people has he claimed to dislike? Can you quote
him stating his dislike for some race?
Tim Adams:
What I find really funny is snit asking you 'which race of
people' was MJ referring to that made you call him a bigot,
when it was snit, and snit alone that dragged this 'race of
people' into the conversation.
I have noted, Tim and Wally and Carroll lie for each other in their
trolling. Tim Adams, above, proves me right, again. He attributed the
error to drugs... though he also attributed it to *me*. Yeah, he attributed
his error to me. Whatever.
--
Is Swiss cheese made out of hole milk?
...
>> Still beating a dead horse?
>>
>> When I stated "nuke them all", it would be self evident to any with even the
>> smallest brain, that "all" meant the entire Middle East.
>
> Note*.... "the entire Middle East."
>
>> But you knew that,
>> since that particular statement in it's entirety, has been popular for
>> quite a while now. The tipoff is the qualifier, "including Israel".
>
> Why add a qualifier when you have already stated "the entire Middle East"?
>
> Easy, Because Israel was the target of your "nuke" comment!
>
> If someone said that they hated colors there would be no need for them to
> add 'including red' unless red was uppermost in their hatred!
>
> Like I said I have never accused you of having the courage of your
> convictions MJ, denial may not be a river but it certainly is refuge to a
> bigot!
>
> <padding removed>
>
Wally:
Not to mention that not all the race of people that you claim
to dislike ...
Snit:
What race of people has he claimed to dislike? Can you quote
him stating his dislike for some race?
Tim Adams:
What I find really funny is snit asking you 'which race of
people' was MJ referring to that made you call him a bigot,
when it was snit, and snit alone that dragged this 'race of
people' into the conversation.
Curious - do you agree with Tim Adams' accusation in the above quote? Are
you able to answer the questions I asked you now?
I suspect you will back Tim Adams - he is one of your co-trolls after all,
you and he and Carroll lie for each other all the time... and you will avoid
the questions.
Yes, you are that predictable. :)
>> Your statements accusing me of bigotry, have now vaporized into hot air.
>
> Really? ...Then you should get a more efficient news reader .... They are
> all still there in mine!
>
>> All your clipping, cannot alter the fact.
>
> See above!
Wally:
Not to mention that not all the race of people that you claim
to dislike ...
Snit:
What race of people has he claimed to dislike? Can you quote
him stating his dislike for some race?
You never did answer those questions. Tim Adams did jump in to try to
obfuscate things by spewing the following BS:
Tim Adams:
What I find really funny is snit asking you 'which race of
people' was MJ referring to that made you call him a bigot,
when it was snit, and snit alone that dragged this 'race of
people' into the conversation.
Do you think it will work to make me forget you ran from those questions?
LOL!
--
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
--Aldous Huxley