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 More options Jul 3 2006, 4:29 pm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: Snit <S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:29:47 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 3 2006 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: Apple Ad debate
"Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> stated in post
mr-CC31AF.21422303072...@individual.net on 7/3/06 12:42 PM:

> In article <C0CEBCF9.53D01%S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID>,
>  Snit <S...@CABLE0NE.NET.INVALID> wrote:

>>>>> Hint: That this is a "MAC NEWSGROUP"  has little to do with *all*
>>>>> the

>>>>> people that have commented on Snit the way they have.

>>>>> Don't hurt yourself thinking about any of this;)

>>>> What makes you think people in other groups troll and flame and
>>>> lie about me the way you, Tim, Wally, Sandman do in CSMA?

>>> Maybe you've not fallen in to your troll persona there? If so, then
>>> I think you should spend more time there, it would do you good. Get
>>> rid of all these nasty "trolls" here. Right?

>> What makes you think my "persona" is any different in other groups?

> I don't.

Then why do you think I am not followed around by trolls such as yourself
elsewhere?  

> I offered it as an explanation. Another reason could be that they are more
> tolerant towards trolls in your other groups. I really don't know why they
> tolerate you, if you behave the same way there as you do here - where you're
> the most hated and most killfiled person in the history of csma.

Gee, care to support your personal attacks against me?  You repeat it often
but never support it.

Funny how people in other groups do not feel the need to spew personal
attacks as you do.

>> I am honest and honorable wherever I am, not just in CSMA.

> You meant "just not in CSMA". Ooops.

Gee, Sandman, do I get to speak for you, too?

No, Sandman, I meant exactly what I wrote.

>> I do find it sad how you refer to being honest and honorable as
>> being a "troll persona"; says a lot about your values.

> Obfuscation.

How do you figure?  Do you even know what the word means?  And can you
comment on why you label someone being honest and honorable as "trolling"?
I doubt you will, but, as I said, it says a lot about your values.

>> Fact is nobody lies about me the way you and the other trolls of
>> CSMA do.

> Given that the amount of "lies" I tell about you is "zero", you just
> said that nobody tells zero lies about you.

Denying your lies does not make them go away.

> Why do so many people tell all these lies, Michael? Is it a conspiracy?

Keep in mind a lot of people speak poorly of you, Carroll, and others in
CSMA.  These are things I have conclusively shown to be true.

Do you think that is a conspiracy?

>> Why do you think that is you and other trolls in CSMA see me one way
>> and people who are not CSMA trolls do *not* see me that way?

Note: no relevant response from Sandman... he merely tries to obfuscate the
question.

> Yeah - why is that? Why are you the most hated person in the history
> of csma? Why is it that every single person you keep arguing with
> pretty much only argue with you, and isn't having lengthy discussions
> with lots of OTHER people. The common factor is you, and only you. Why
> is that? How come all these evil "trolls" like Steve, George, Tim, Ed,
> Wally, Sandman, Elizabot, Jim, Rick, Steve, Alan all focus on only
> you? What makes you so special for these "trolls"? Why can't they find
> someone else to troll?

> The important thing here is how you relate to them. You claim they
> troll YOU. Which - if the above scenario were true - would be correct,
> since they only make fun of you, only "harass" you. But the difference
> is when you ask each of them about you - they probably won't say
> "Yeah, Snit trolls ME". They would probably all say "Yeah, Snit trolls
> THE GROUP". You're a troll of csma, not a troll of just a single
> person.

> Because that's a fact. Neither of the above posters match the
> objective troll criteria other in posts they make to you (things like
> role reversal for example). It's not a common thing for them to any
> other poster. They don't create antagonizing threads on a regular
> basis, they don't create sock puppets and things like that.

> You're the only one, in the ENTIRE group that matches the objective
> troll criteria in so many ways in so many thread sto so many posters.
> Sure, there are "lesser" trolls such as Josh and the Mayor that also
> match the criteria on a wide basis - but they couldn't hold a candle
> to you if their life depended on it.

> The above were one of those rare moments where I actually talk with
> you (as opposed to just make fun of you and prove that you're a
> troll). We'll see how much you snip and/or run :-D

Posting accusations and noting how your group think buddies agree does not
support your claims.  Please note that I happily support my claims in
relation to you with actual data and quotes from you.  You simply cannot do
so.  That, too, is very telling.

--
€ Things which are not the same are not "identical"
€ Incest and sex are not identical (only a pervert would disagree)
€ OS X is partially based on BSD (esp. FreeBSD)


 
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