Scott Bourne "About My Switch From Mac To Windows"

[Steve de Mena]

He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the roses

http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/

Steve

[Alan Baker]

In article <1d6dnVSj-OJyCSvM...@giganews.com>,

Steve...

Don't fall into the bottom-feeder troll game of simply making things up.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[Lloyd]

In article <1d6dnVSj-OJyCSvM...@giganews.com>,
Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

Never heard of him.

[MuahMan]

Ouch. No wonder Apple is banned from the enterprise.

[Steve de Mena]

On 6/10/13 8:29 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <1d6dnVSj-OJyCSvM...@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
>
>> He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the roses
>>
>> http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/
>>
>> Steve
>
> Steve...
>
> Don't fall into the bottom-feeder troll game of simply making things up.
>

Scott Bourne's credentials in the Mac world are unimpeachable.

That's your response.... that I am "making things up"?

You question the validity of this article or that Scott is abandoning
the Mac world? Which is it?

The link again:

http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/

Steve

[Steve de Mena]

Did you read the article? He co-hosted the "Macbreak Weekly" podcast
on TwiT with Leo Laporte for a couple of years.

"As a photographer, I’ve spent most of my career (well the part where
computers were around anyway) using Apple products. I bought the first
Apple II, the IIc, the Lisa the first Mac, the Mac II, the first
Powerbook, the G3, the G4, the G5, the first Mac Pro, the first iMac
and every Mac thereafter in both portable and desktop form. I’ve built
many businesses using Apple products. (While not an Apple product the
Next was a Steve Jobs product so that counts too and yes I even bought
a Next.)

Before I used Apple, I did have brief stints using an IBM (yes the
original IBM personal computer running DOS.) And I used Osborne (CPM)
and Epson’s Valdocs. And even after I started using Macs I did buy
some very powerful UNIX machines for my business from Silicon Graphics
and Sun.

But personally, as an individual photographer, I have almost always
used Macs. The early versions of Photoshop were optimized to run on
Macs. Most of the early graphics software and printer drivers were
optimized for Macs. And for a very long time, I feel that I got more
than my money’s worth using Macintosh computers and their laptop
counterparts.

I didn’t just use Apple products. I immersed myself in Apple culture.
For a while I owned lots of Apple stock. And I was a co-host, host or
guest on Leo Laporte’s famous MacBreak Weekly podcast more than one
hundred times. I spoke at MacWorld often. I was a member of every
Apple User Group that mattered. I subscribed to and even occasionally
wrote for some of the Mac-related magazines.

When Aperture came out, I was a very early adopter. I was asked to
co-teach the very first public Aperture class taught anywhere on the
planet (at MacWorld in San Francisco.) The product was so new that we
just had a partial manual in the form of a very skinny PDF and a few
days to learn what we were expected to turn around and teach.

I went on to attend one of the first Apple-sponsored training classes
on Aperture and ended up becoming one of the first Apple T3 Certified
Aperture trainers (T3 meaning not only could I train end users but I
could train the trainer.)

I started the first Aperture blog and podcast and served as technical
editor on a dozen Aperture books. I also recorded Aperture training
for lynda.com and other online sources.

I bought the first iPhone and ran the first podcast and blog devoted
to the iPhone. My picture was on the front page of the San Francisco
Chronicle holding the first iPhone.

Most years, I’d be at the Apple WWDC conference in San Francisco
today, eagerly awaiting news of new Apple products and software.

In other words, my Apple/Mac credentials are pretty darn solid."

Steve

[Sandman]

In article <AOCdnTO7UbiKdyvM...@giganews.com>,

Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

> >> He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the roses
> >>
> >> http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
> > Never heard of him.
> >
>
> Did you read the article?

Why does it matter? He's never heard of him - yet you claim he is the
*WORLDS NUMBER ONE MAC FANBOY*. I never heard of him either. Maybe in
your world?


--
Sandman[.net]

[-hh]

I've been photo-centric for years and also did the Powermac to Mac Pro bit, as well as the Lightroom vs Aperture test ... and also haven't heard of him (or if I had, he didn't make a memorable impression).

In any case, his complaints about software not being Mac-optimized would be *Adobe's* fault. For example, they're effectively ignoring GCD and Photoshop filters are notoriously non-threaded aware...

-hh

[Laszlo Lebrun]

On 11.06.2013 05:29, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <1d6dnVSj-OJyCSvM...@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
>
>> He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the roses
>>

He's surely not the #1 Mac fanboi, because Alan is it.
But he's conclusion is eloquent enough:

Nobody is more sorry than I am about the changes at Apple.
If I were still a shareholder, I’d probably applaud them.
As a user, I feel like I’ve been left behind.

The fanbois keep believing they are using the most avanced OS in the
world and the iOS7 changes are a breakthough... ROTFL. They have ben
told to believe every lie.

Indeed they are stuck in an antiquated obsolete universe, both on OSX
and on iOS.

--
One computer and three operating systems, not the other way round.
One wife and many hotels, not the other way round ! ;-)

[Nashton]

"This left me with few choices so I did the unthinkable for me. I
started exploring Windows. Even now as I type that sentence, I find my
hands shaking. I am not ashamed to say that I was a Mac fanboy. But
times change and so do my opinions. Steve Jobs himself said only
perpetually stupid people never change their mind. And just because I
thought something was perfect 10 years ago doesn’t mean there’s a law
that says I can’t adapt, find new products and change my mind. So I have."

"No more spinning beach balls. No more two hour rendering times. Just
blistering, incredible, pop-your-top-off speed. What I am talking about
is watching Lightroom previews render in about half to three-quarters of
the time they were on my new iMac. My iMac is no slow computer. It has
every option Apple sells and is fully loaded with Apple RAM and their
fastest processor, GPU and HD combo. When comparing the two, it’s not
even close. There’s no need to buy one of those fancy benchmark
programs. You can see it with your naked eye. It’s just plain fast."

"One of the reasons the HP is so much faster is the graphics card. Much
of the photo software we use today runs on the GPU not the CPU so a
beefy graphics card is essential. Unfortunately, Apple’s architecture
leaves it unable to compete. They can’t offer the latest, greatest,
fastest graphics cards. This is a major factor in my decision to switch."

In all fairness, he is wrong here. Most of the data crunching occurs in
the CPU, not the GPU for photo editing apps.

Anjd the kicker:

"I’ll use this current set of tools until I die or something comes along
that’s better – whichever comes first. I have taken a bunch of flack
(what else is new?) over the change from the Mac fanboys. I’m okay with
that. I understand. Nobody is more sorry than I am about the changes at

Apple. If I were still a shareholder, I’d probably applaud them. As a

user, I feel like I’ve been left behind. So I switched and am very happy
with the results. You can now all go down and get the free ice cubes
they are offering in Hell."

Thanks for sharing. No time to try out your recipe, btw.

[Nashton]

On 6/11/2013 7:55 AM, -hh wrote:

>

As witnessed by the fine quality of your...blurry pics. The one you
erased from your web page in shame.

LOL!

[jay birdsong]

"Lloyd" wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-73A7...@news.eternal-september.org...

He says; he never heard of you :)

[Alan Baker]

In article <AOCdnTC7UbgOdCvM...@giganews.com>,

Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

> On 6/10/13 8:29 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <1d6dnVSj-OJyCSvM...@giganews.com>,
> > Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
> >
> >> He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the roses
> >>
> >> http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
> > Steve...
> >
> > Don't fall into the bottom-feeder troll game of simply making things up.
> >
>
> Scott Bourne's credentials in the Mac world are unimpeachable.

Really?

>
> That's your response.... that I am "making things up"?
>
> You question the validity of this article or that Scott is abandoning
> the Mac world? Which is it?

The part about him being #1 fanboi.

[Lloyd]

In article <kp7e04$r8m$1...@dont-email.me>,

But I don't have a blog braying about issues caused by Adobe not doing a
good job, nor do I claim, nor has anyone else, that I am Apple's #1
fanboi.

All hyperbole and crapola from the trolls yet again!

[jay birdsong]

"Lloyd" wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-F2C4...@news.eternal-september.org...

Well, you might not be #1, but you rank way up there. :)

>All hyperbole and crapola from the trolls yet again!

"Trolls" = "trolling". On this group, that's what it's all about.

[Lloyd]

In article <kp7q77$6ab$1...@dont-email.me>,

"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Lloyd" wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-F2C4...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> In article <kp7e04$r8m$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > "Lloyd" wrote in message
> > news:lloydparsons-73A7...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > In article <1d6dnVSj-OJyCSvM...@giganews.com>,
> > Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
> >
> > > He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the roses
> > >
> > > http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > >Never heard of him.
> >
> > He says; he never heard of you :)
>
> >But I don't have a blog braying about issues caused by Adobe not
> >doing a
> >good job, nor do I claim, nor has anyone else, that I am Apple's #1
> >fanboi.
>
> Well, you might not be #1, but you rank way up there. :)
>

Can't be true as I have a Win8 laptop :)

[jay birdsong]

"Lloyd" wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-FDF0...@news.eternal-september.org...

In article <kp7q77$6ab$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Lloyd" wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-F2C4...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> In article <kp7e04$r8m$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > "Lloyd" wrote in message
> > news:lloydparsons-73A7...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > In article <1d6dnVSj-OJyCSvM...@giganews.com>,
> > Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
> >
> > > He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the
> > > roses
> > >
> > > http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > >Never heard of him.
> >
> > He says; he never heard of you :)
>
> >But I don't have a blog braying about issues caused by Adobe not
> >doing a
> >good job, nor do I claim, nor has anyone else, that I am Apple's #1
> >fanboi.
>
> Well, you might not be #1, but you rank way up there. :)
>
>Can't be true as I have a Win8 laptop :)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gary]

Whats this guy gonna write about next?

about-my-switch-from-pen-to-pencil?


I have never heard of this guy but if he is happy with windows then
good luck to him.

Im sure someone at Apple will read this, discussions will take place,
meetings will be held, tempers will fray, people will be fired and in
the end Apple will close it's doors and shut up shop.

It's not worth Apple continuing without this guy supporting them.

Although he does mention that if the new Mac Pro is the bomb he may
take a look….lol, didnt take long did it?

[Tim Adams]

In article <d3b965cf-22fb-4ae7...@googlegroups.com>,

-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> I've been photo-centric for years and also did the Powermac to Mac Pro bit, as well as the Lightroom vs Aperture test ... and also haven't heard of him (or if I had, he didn't make a memorable impression).
>
> In any case, his complaints about software not being Mac-optimized would be *Adobe's* fault. For example, they're effectively ignoring GCD and Photoshop filters are notoriously non-threaded aware...
>

I've heard of him but only by having listened to the podcast he mentioned in his article.

[Steve de Mena]

On 6/11/13 9:05 AM, Alan Baker wrote:

>> You question the validity of this article or that Scott is abandoning
>> the Mac world? Which is it?
>
> The part about him being #1 fanboi.
>

I listened to a hundred or more of his "Macbreak" Weekly appearances.
If you had too you wouldn't question my comment. He got excited and
bought virtually every new Mac product the very day they were on sale,
often buying more than one. He had an iphone poscast months before the
iPhone even came out.

Steve

[Steve de Mena]

Why does it matter if the software optimization is Apple or Adobe's
fault? The takeaway here is that Scott, despite his years and years
of championing Apple in every manner possible, looked at this
objectively and realized it made sense for him to switch to a Windows
environment.

Steve

[Sandman]

In article <ut-dnUZEFfX-tCXM...@giganews.com>,

Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

Who now again? Was that the guy that was the WORLDS BIGGEST MAC FANBOY ?

Yeah, never heard of him. So why do I care? Why are your posts always
devoid of actual.. points?


--
Sandman[.net]

[-hh]

It makes a difference because no one can force a software developer to develop their product. The alternative would be to force a change by breaking that developers product to make him Use the new and better tool. In addition we don't know what Adobe's real agenda is they could be in bed with Microsoft to make their product it's really better performing on windows on Apple because basically don't like Apple or they don't like Apple competing in Adobe's lanes like they are with light room versus aperture. Unless there's proof that Apple is screwing adobe or something similar that we really have to Pinerose on Adobe for not exploiting known features that are in the OS X operating system not Windows After all to develop one CodeBase it doesn't use any particular advantages on both is cheaper for Adobe to do which meant to maximize their profits. That's why I pinned this rose on Adobe for these reasons. YMMV.

-hh

[Nashton]

On 06-11-13 5:41 PM, Gary wrote:
> On 2013-06-11 03:09:33 +0000, Steve de Mena said:
>
>> He was the world's #1 Mac fanboi but woke up and smelled the roses
>>
>> http://photofocus.com/2013/06/10/about-my-switch-from-mac-to-windows/
>>
>> Steve
>
> Whats this guy gonna write about next?
>
> about-my-switch-from-pen-to-pencil?

Various and sundry Apple cultists crap their pants every time someone in
the blogosphere switches to a Mac, especially Miata Man bakr from Hong
Kong East.

This *is* an advocacy group, haven't you noticed?

[Sandman]

In article <kpaiag$m1a$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.ca>
wrote:

What, no examples???

Haha, what a FAIL.



--
Sandman[.net]

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpaiag$m1a$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.ca>
wrote:

LOL

And you can produce examples of this, can you?

>
> This *is* an advocacy group, haven't you noticed?

Have you?

[Lloyd]

In article <kpaiag$m1a$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.ca>
wrote:

LOL! Just who was it that posted the link? Sure wasn't any 'apple
cultist'!

[Alan Baker]

In article <ut-dnUdEFfXttSXM...@giganews.com>,

Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

That makes him A fan; one who happened to have a forum to express his
enjoyment of the products.

It doesn't make him a "fanboi", much less "#1 fanboi".

[-hh]

On Jun 11, 10:50 pm, Tim Adams <teadams$2$0$...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <d3b965cf-22fb-4ae7...@googlegroups.com>,
>

>  -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> > I've been photo-centric for years and also did the Powermac to Mac Pro bit, as well as the Lightroom vs Aperture test ... and also haven't heard of him (or if I had, he didn't make a memorable impression).
>
> > In any case, his complaints about software not being Mac-optimized would be *Adobe's* fault.  For example, they're effectively ignoring GCD and Photoshop filters are notoriously non-threaded aware...
>
> I've heard of him but only by having listened to the podcast he mentioned in his article.

I've gotten a chance to actually read this guy's rant. Frankly, he's
a egotist idiot, as his comments reveal that he risks buying bleeding
edge for production environments and is then surprised if something
goes wrong. He then apparently FINALLY learns his lesson, but
misattributes it to his change of brands - - note that he jumped to
Windows ***7*** and not to Windows 8.

In the end, he was comparing HP Workstations to an iMac....


-hh

[Nashton]

On 6/12/2013 11:49 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Jun 11, 10:50 pm, Tim Adams <teadams$2$0$...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> In article <d3b965cf-22fb-4ae7...@googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:

Is he an egotist or an idiot?
Or is he an egotistic idiot or an idiotic egotist?

> as his comments reveal that he risks buying bleeding
> edge for production environments and is then surprised if something
> goes wrong. He then apparently FINALLY learns his lesson, but
> misattributes it to his change of brands - - note that he jumped to
> Windows ***7*** and not to Windows 8.
>
> In the end, he was comparing HP Workstations to an iMac...

No, he wasn't. He was describing valid reasons as to why he switched
from toy Macs, especially Mac Pros, abandoned by the bean counter Kook.

Too little too late habeeeb. Many pros have jumped ship.

Can you not read?


.
>
>
> -hh
>

[Nashton]

If what I posted was a blunt object, it would have scalped you.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kpcab6$tin$5...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> On 6/12/2013 11:49 PM, -hh wrote:
> > On Jun 11, 10:50 pm, Tim Adams <teadams$2$0$...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> In article <d3b965cf-22fb-4ae7...@googlegroups.com>,
> >>
> >> -hh <recscuba_goo...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>
> Is he an egotist or an idiot?
> Or is he an egotistic idiot or an idiotic egotist?
>
>
> > as his comments reveal that he risks buying bleeding
> > edge for production environments and is then surprised if something
> > goes wrong. He then apparently FINALLY learns his lesson, but
> > misattributes it to his change of brands - - note that he jumped to
> > Windows ***7*** and not to Windows 8.
> >
> > In the end, he was comparing HP Workstations to an iMac...
>
> No, he wasn't. He was describing valid reasons as to why he switched
> from toy Macs, especially Mac Pros, abandoned by the bean counter Kook.

He was comparing the performance of an iMac to an HP Workstation:

>
> Too little too late habeeeb. Many pros have jumped ship.
>
> Can you not read?

Can't you?

"No more spinning beach balls. No more two hour rendering times. Just
blistering, incredible, pop-your-top-off speed. What I am talking about
is watching Lightroom previews render in about half to three-quarters of
the time they were on my new iMac."

[Lloyd]

In article <kpcerf$c0d$3...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

Nah, you haven't got what it takes to do that at all. What you do have
is a piss poor attitude that started long before you 'switched'. I've
got to wonder if Win7 is so great, why do you spend so much time here.
You haven't had anything to add to this group in a very long time.

[Steve de Mena]

On 6/12/13 3:51 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <ut-dnUdEFfXttSXM...@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/11/13 9:05 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>
>>>> You question the validity of this article or that Scott is abandoning
>>>> the Mac world? Which is it?
>>>
>>> The part about him being #1 fanboi.
>>>
>>
>> I listened to a hundred or more of his "Macbreak" Weekly appearances.
>> If you had too you wouldn't question my comment. He got excited and
>> bought virtually every new Mac product the very day they were on sale,
>> often buying more than one. He had an iphone poscast months before the
>> iPhone even came out.
>>
>> Steve
>
> That makes him A fan; one who happened to have a forum to express his
> enjoyment of the products.
>
> It doesn't make him a "fanboi", much less "#1 fanboi".
>

How many of his appearances on Macbreak Weekly did you hear?

Steve

[Steve de Mena]

Scott has owned probably every iteration of fully-loaded Mac for years
and years.... he's well versed in Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, etc capabilities.

Steve

[Steve de Mena]

On 6/13/13 9:59 AM, Alan Baker wrote:

> He was comparing the performance of an iMac to an HP Workstation:

Same CPU, no? He said he had the most fully-loaded iMac available,
that would be with SSDs, fastest i7, max RAM. The HP *mobile*
workstation are i7s too, their not desktop workstations.

HP ELITEBOOK 8770W MOBILE WORKSTATION
http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/workstations/8770w_features.html#.UboUexZw-zM

Steve

[-hh]

It does appear that way, but appearances can be deceiving: I noticed
that he talked about an iMac specifically as his contemporary
hardware; his only Mac Pro mention was in the context of what appears
to have had been as an early adopter...Circa 2006.

Frankly, I notice a huge difference in responsiveness between my two
MPs...sure, the newer one has a CPU bump, but both are 2009 & newer
architecture and what really makes the difference is the PCIe SSD
instead of spinning media. The same's also true for my Thinkpad
laptop - ditching spinning media makes a huge difference. As such,
until it becomes crystal clear just what this gentleman was comparing,
I've seen enough indicators to suggest that he is logically challenged
and to take his little rant with a big block 'o salt. YMMV.


-hh

[Steve de Mena]

As I've mentioned he's been on a hundred or more Macbreak weekly's,
tweeted hundreds of pictures of his office which could stock an Apple
store. He's had EVERYTHING. It's not all talk.

No current Apple, except the brand new MacBook Airs, have PCIe SSD, so
when you mention that what are you referring to, the upcoming Mac Pro
or the one you have, which would have a SATA SSD (no?)

I have the latest (I think) MBP with 750GB SSD and I will NEVER go
back to spinning drives for the OS and main apps.

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro10,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.7 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 8 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Boot ROM Version: MBP101.00EE.B02
SMC Version (system): 2.3f35

Steve

[-hh]

The article failed to reference a contemporary Mac Pro. Feel free to
prove me wrong by quoting from the article cited. With him then going
on about his iMac, it's obvious.

> No current Apple, except the brand new MacBook Airs, have PCIe SSD, so
> when you mention that what are you referring to, the upcoming Mac Pro
> or the one you have, which would have a SATA SSD (no?)

Incorrect: there's third party products. That's why I said that my
firsthand experience *in Mac Pros* was that it mad an appreciable
difference.

They have been reviewed by the likes of Digital Lloyd, Bare Feats,
etc, and represent a viable alternative to what Apple sells. Sure,
you might not say it is reasonable to crack open an iMac or laptop,
but the Mac Pro is indisputably intended to be extended by its
consumer, if for no other reason that its base configuration ships
with 75% of its PCIe slots and HDD slots empty.

And this isn't even considering the fact that people have been putting
2.5" SSDs in Mac Pros for years now.

FYI, the mystery product is the OWC Mercury Accelsior PCI Express
SSD.

Yup, up to 823MB/s read ... thats higher than the theoretical max of
SATA3 - And it starts at only $320 today for the "E2" (enhanced)
version, or $200 if you source your own blades. Perhaps you should
check to see if it is compatible with your old Mac Pro. Couple with a
RAID 0 in a few bays, it really makes a nice bump. FYI, here's the
review from Tom's Hardware from 14 months ago:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PCIe_SSD-Mac-PC-Bootable-Mercury_Accelsior,15374.html

And - golly gee! - it is an SSD on a PCIe card, which is why I called
it a PCIe SSD.

> I have the latest (I think) MBP with 750GB SSD and I will NEVER go
> back to spinning drives for the OS and main apps.

Good for you, but for maximizing performance, it still is not a Mac
Pro with what's been well known within performance circles for a year
plus - - and a product that your buddy should have been constantly
yelling about as a great product if he really was after performance.


-hh

[Lloyd]

In article <gOadneBWIMhx6yfM...@giganews.com>,

I just bought a MBP w/retina 13" a few months ago. Not the same model
as yours as I didn't need more than what I got. I would agree with you
on spinning drives internally, don't want to ever have to do that again.

I have my iTunes library on an external drive on the TimeCapsule since I
don't need it anywhere but at home.

[Alan Baker]

In article <I86dnWvek5r4jifM...@giganews.com>,

What does that matter?

Your claim is nonsense.

[Nashton]

There must be some point in the midst of this profuse verbosity.
What exactly are you trying to say and can you perhaps give it another shot?

[Alan Baker]

In article <EJOdnWFtF4y3iCfM...@giganews.com>,

Steve de Mena <st...@demena.com> wrote:

Wow, Steve: just how dishonest can you be?

He CHOSE to buy an iMac and then compare it against a very different
machine with an extremely high-end graphics card.

The GPU is what makes the difference here, Steve, and not according to
me.

According to him:

"One of the reasons the HP is so much faster is the graphics card. Much
of the photo software we use today runs on the GPU not the CPU so a
beefy graphics card is essential. Unfortunately, Applešs architecture
leaves it unable to compete. They canšt offer the latest, greatest,
fastest graphics cards. This is a major factor in my decision to switch."