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Nashton

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May 15, 2013, 10:07:41 PM5/15/13
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Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.

Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
you have the cojones to admit to it.

Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks and
communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees) or
Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the master.

Lloyd

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May 15, 2013, 11:10:32 PM5/15/13
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In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>
Yeah, those earnings and profit margins are horrible. There are hardly
any companies that would tolerate them. NOT!

Jackass.

> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
> you have the cojones to admit to it.
>
That part is an issue, even if it is perception more than reality.

> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks and
> communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees) or
> Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the master.

Hopefully Apple will figger out how to make it all fire again, and they
have the luxury of buckets full of money, and more coming in all the
time, so they have time to do what the 'analysts' and other jackasses
want.

Alan Baker

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May 16, 2013, 12:08:35 AM5/16/13
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In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

Before he was dead you didn't describe him as the creative force.

It was a thief of other people's ideas then...

...but now the fairy tale has changed.

And you lack the integrity to admit it.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Justin

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May 16, 2013, 12:18:50 AM5/16/13
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On Wed, 15 May 2013 21:08:35 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

> In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>>
>> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
>> you have the cojones to admit to it.
>>
>> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks
>> and communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees)
>> or Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the
>> master.
>
>
>
> Before he was dead you didn't describe him as the creative force.
>
> It was a thief of other people's ideas then...
>
> ...but now the fairy tale has changed.
>
> And you lack the integrity to admit it.

That is one of the symptom's of Asperger's and social anziety.

Sandman

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May 16, 2013, 1:28:24 AM5/16/13
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In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>
> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
> you have the cojones to admit to it.

Huh? When did anyone refuse to admit it? I don't think anyone has
claimed that Jobs' shoes can be "filled" by someone. Steve Jobs was a
special person.

The impending doom of a failure to fill these shoes is entirely made
up by you fanboys.

> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks and
> communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees) or
> Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the master.

I don't worship Steve Jobs the way you apparently does. Anyone
claiming that Ive isn't creative is obviously too blind to see
anything.


--
Sandman[.net]

Nashton

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May 16, 2013, 6:49:38 AM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 12:10 AM, Lloyd wrote:
> In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>>
> Yeah, those earnings and profit margins are horrible. There are hardly
> any companies that would tolerate them. NOT!
>
> Jackass.

Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
earnings are dropping.
Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)


>
>> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
>> you have the cojones to admit to it.
>>
> That part is an issue, even if it is perception more than reality.

No, it happens to be the crux of the issue. Jobs was behind every new
toy, Ive was the artsy-fartsy bloke that put curves on the iPhone.


>
>> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks and
>> communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees) or
>> Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the master.
>
> Hopefully Apple will figger out how to make it all fire again, and they
> have the luxury of buckets full of money, and more coming in all the
> time, so they have time to do what the 'analysts' and other jackasses
> want.
>

Why, so they can screw even more users, especially the pros? So they can
sell pretty boxes to people that have more money than brains?


LOL!


jay birdsong

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May 16, 2013, 8:11:07 AM5/16/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-DD6DC...@news.shawcable.net...

In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>
> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none
> of
> you have the cojones to admit to it.
>
> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks
> and
> communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees)
> or
> Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the
> master.



>Before he was dead you didn't describe him as the creative force.

>It was a thief of other people's ideas then...

There is really no disconnect between the two, Brain.

>...but now the fairy tale has changed.

It has. It makes good bait for you bottom feeders so suck down and
choke on.

>And you lack the integrity to admit it.

"You" speak of "integrity"?!! MOOHOOHOOHAAHAAHAAHARHARHARHARHAR!!!

snip DCS.

Lloyd

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May 16, 2013, 8:15:25 AM5/16/13
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In article <kn2djt$gh3$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> On 5/16/2013 12:10 AM, Lloyd wrote:
> > In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
> >>
> > Yeah, those earnings and profit margins are horrible. There are hardly
> > any companies that would tolerate them. NOT!
> >
> > Jackass.
>
> Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
> earnings are dropping.
> Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)
>
LOL! You trolls are much more interested in their stock price than I've
ever been. Especially these days since I'm no longer in the stock
market at all.

jay birdsong

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May 16, 2013, 8:16:49 AM5/16/13
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"Justin" wrote in message
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Widdle baby has latched on to a new expression!!!!

"anziety"??? From the good widdle speller?


Why do you blindly lash out so? Was it when your parents realized
they would rather have raised a pet monkey than you, and tried to
smother you? Try to get past it, you are only hurting yourself.

Swim, widdle fishie, swim away from the nasty bait.

Nashton

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May 16, 2013, 8:20:31 AM5/16/13
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bakr, go spread your lies in another forum where they'll believe you.

>
> That is one of the symptom's of Asperger's and social anziety.
>

Belittling serious conditions such as Asperger's syndrome and social
anxiety, not "anziety", professor Nonuthing, is not very becoming for
even a lowly Apple shill such as yourself.


Sandman

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May 16, 2013, 8:27:27 AM5/16/13
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In article <kn2iu9$vn9$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> > That is one of the symptom's of Asperger's and social anziety.
>
> Belittling serious conditions such as Asperger's syndrome and social
> anxiety, not "anziety", professor Nonuthing, is not very becoming for
> even a lowly Apple shill such as yourself.

How is identifying your mental illness "belittling" other people that
have it as well? Well, I kind of see how you mean it now - other people
having asperger's may take offense by being associated by you? Sure,
maybe you have a point there.


--
Sandman[.net]

Nashton

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May 16, 2013, 8:30:07 AM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 9:15 AM, Lloyd wrote:
> In article <kn2djt$gh3$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2013 12:10 AM, Lloyd wrote:
>>> In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, those earnings and profit margins are horrible. There are hardly
>>> any companies that would tolerate them. NOT!
>>>
>>> Jackass.
>>
>> Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
>> earnings are dropping.
>> Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)
>>
> LOL! You trolls are much more interested in their stock price than I've
> ever been. Especially these days since I'm no longer in the stock
> market at all.

The share price is but a fraction of what is wrong with Apple.
Decreased earnings, profitability and lack of any new product many
months after the death of Apple's Master salesperson is something Apple
shills need to worry about.

-hh

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May 16, 2013, 9:01:25 AM5/16/13
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On May 16, 8:15 am, Lloyd <lloydpars...@me.com> wrote:
> Nashton <n...@na.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
> > earnings are dropping.
> > Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)
>
> LOL!  You trolls are much more interested in their stock price
> than I've ever been.  Especially these days...

It is merely the latest crumb that they have to try to use to try to
troll with.

It wasn't long ago at all that they were whining about "overpriced"
products to try to offset Apple's marketplace success and tried to use
the claim that as a consumer, they "DON'T CARE" if a supplier makes
any money or not or how much money that they make...because for as far
as they're concerned, if they've decided that a product is overpriced,
then their opinion is the only one in the world that matters - - and
when millions of consumers in the marketplace ignore their opinion and
buy the 'overpriced' product by the droves anyway, their only defense
is that there's millions of ignorant, 'brain washed' fanboy concumers
who don't deserve to live.

Or something like that...the above just might contain a little smidge
of hyperbola :-)


-hh

jay birdsong

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May 16, 2013, 12:53:18 PM5/16/13
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"Lloyd" wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-BC77...@news.eternal-september.org...

In article <kn2djt$gh3$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> On 5/16/2013 12:10 AM, Lloyd wrote:
> > In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are
> >> falling.
> >>
> > Yeah, those earnings and profit margins are horrible. There are
> > hardly
> > any companies that would tolerate them. NOT!
> >
> > Jackass.
>
> Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
> earnings are dropping.
> Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)
>

>LOL! You trolls are much more interested in their stock price than
>I've
>ever been. Especially these days since I'm no longer in the stock
>market at all.

It makes excellent bait for the MacFishes. It seems irresistible.

jay birdsong

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May 16, 2013, 12:54:14 PM5/16/13
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"-hh" wrote in message
news:460221b3-0285-45d3...@k6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

On May 16, 8:15 am, Lloyd <lloydpars...@me.com> wrote:
> Nashton <n...@na.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
> > earnings are dropping.
> > Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)
>
> LOL! You trolls are much more interested in their stock price
> than I've ever been. Especially these days...

>It is merely the latest crumb that they have to try to use to try to
>troll with.

Golly gee, Punjab - figured that out all by yourself?

snip the rambling diatribe.

Alan Baker

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May 16, 2013, 1:00:41 PM5/16/13
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In article <kn2iu9$vn9$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
wrote:

> On 5/16/2013 1:18 AM, Justin wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 May 2013 21:08:35 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:
> >
> >> In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
> >>>
> >>> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
> >>> you have the cojones to admit to it.
> >>>
> >>> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks
> >>> and communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees)
> >>> or Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the
> >>> master.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Before he was dead you didn't describe him as the creative force.
> >>
> >> It was a thief of other people's ideas then...
> >>
> >> ...but now the fairy tale has changed.
> >>
> >> And you lack the integrity to admit it.
>
> bakr, go spread your lies in another forum where they'll believe you.

"Just another reason to despise Steve Jobs, "

<https://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/eb3616fb795edd
2d>

"I was never a fan of Fuhrer Jobs,"

<https://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c5c75a7293167d
cd>



>
> >
> > That is one of the symptom's of Asperger's and social anziety.
> >
>
> Belittling serious conditions such as Asperger's syndrome and social
> anxiety, not "anziety", professor Nonuthing, is not very becoming for
> even a lowly Apple shill such as yourself.

Oh and another quote from the owner of a Nokia 920 (made in China):

"In fact, everything I buy will be Not Made in China as much as
possible. "

<https://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0152674484f2f9
0b>

Lloyd

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May 16, 2013, 1:26:32 PM5/16/13
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In article <kn32ml$vog$1...@dont-email.me>,
Well, yeah there is that to consider! :)

Nashton

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May 16, 2013, 1:35:14 PM5/16/13
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On 05-16-13 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
> On May 16, 8:15 am, Lloyd <lloydpars...@me.com> wrote:
>> Nashton <n...@na.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
>>> earnings are dropping.
>>> Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)
>>
>> LOL! You trolls are much more interested in their stock price
>> than I've ever been. Especially these days...
>
> It is merely the latest crumb that they have to try to use to try to
> troll with.

So what do the diagrams mean, -hh...

ROTF.

WIll you PM me, perhaps...poser.

Nashton

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May 16, 2013, 1:42:18 PM5/16/13
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On 05-16-13 9:11 AM, jay birdsong wrote:
> "You" speak of "integrity"?!!

Perhaps bakr suffers from "anziety", the poor soul.


Sandman

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May 16, 2013, 1:48:23 PM5/16/13
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In article <kn35pn$tod$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.ca>
wrote:

> On 05-16-13 9:11 AM, jay birdsong wrote:
> > "You" speak of "integrity"?!!
>
> Perhaps bakr suffers from "anziety", the poor soul.

"Wallmart" boy misspells "Baker" while trying to be smart about the
spelling of "anxiety". Ironic. :-D


--
Sandman[.net]

-hh

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May 16, 2013, 2:13:09 PM5/16/13
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"Perhaps if T3 didn't provide gate control to T2 or if it did have
an effect on T5, he would have picked up on my comments..."

Oh, the irony.


-hh

Gary

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May 16, 2013, 4:02:39 PM5/16/13
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On 2013-05-16 10:49:38 +0000, Nashton said:

> On 5/16/2013 12:10 AM, Lloyd wrote:
>> In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>>>
>> Yeah, those earnings and profit margins are horrible. There are hardly
>> any companies that would tolerate them. NOT!
>>
>> Jackass.
>
> Right. As I was saying, pension funds are dropping Apple shares,
> earnings are dropping.
> Don't get upset now, Lloyd and bust an important vein ;)
>
>
>>
>>> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
>>> you have the cojones to admit to it.
>>>
>> That part is an issue, even if it is perception more than reality.
>
> No, it happens to be the crux of the issue. Jobs was behind every new
> toy, Ive was the artsy-fartsy bloke that put curves on the iPhone.
>
> And that combination was the reason you moan about Apple.
>>
>>> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks and
>>> communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees) or
>>> Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the master.

He does come across a lil psycho, agreed. lol
>>
>> Hopefully Apple will figger out how to make it all fire again, and they
>> have the luxury of buckets full of money, and more coming in all the
>> time, so they have time to do what the 'analysts' and other jackasses
>> want.
>>
>
> Why, so they can screw even more users, especially the pros? So they
> can sell pretty boxes to people that have more money than brains?
>
>
> LOL!

Interesting premise Nashton but one that comes from the mind of an
'angry at the world' kid.

How are they screwing users, please explain?

Yes they sell pretty boxes and they are the only company that does
which is why they are where they are.

Money is not an issue for people who want quality, you generally pay a
bit more to rise above the shit products.

You should know Nashton, the Apple products you have owned didnt hold a
knife to your throat while you were buying them.






Justin

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May 17, 2013, 12:32:12 AM5/17/13
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You took the bait again! Its almost as is you are incapable of learning.
Don't blame me for your lousy luck with the chicks. Maybe you can score a
Brazzers pass on one of the other groups, they're traded all the time.

jay birdsong

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May 17, 2013, 7:31:28 AM5/17/13
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Widdle fishie couldn't resist the bait - again!!! Did your parents
call you "Chimp"?

Nashton

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May 17, 2013, 8:23:41 PM5/17/13
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On 2013-05-16 2:28 AM, Sandman wrote:
> In article <kn1f1a$pik$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jobs is dead. Funds are dropping Apple shares, earnings are falling.
>>
>> Nobody can fill Jobs' shoes. It's the elephant in the room and none of
>> you have the cojones to admit to it.
>
> Huh? When did anyone refuse to admit it? I don't think anyone has
> claimed that Jobs' shoes can be "filled" by someone. Steve Jobs was a
> special person.

Huh? Huh? What's this, a rebuttal?
It's pretty much what everyone is hoping for, i.e. that the current crew
at Apple will come close to the alleged genius of Jobs. But people

Read this a few times and it might just begin to sink in.
>
> The impending doom of a failure to fill these shoes is entirely made
> up by you fanboys.
>
>> Unless you think that bugger-eyed designer boy Ive (I swear he looks and
>> communicates like a psychopath, he does give me the heebee geebees) or
>> Cook are anywhere close to the creativity and determination of the master.
>
> I don't worship Steve Jobs the way you apparently does.


I do

you *do*

he does.

"I don't worship Steve Jobs in the same manner that you *DO*".

> Anyone
> claiming that Ive isn't creative is obviously too blind to see
> anything.

He's creative alright but no mastermind in dreaming up anything close to
Jobs' toys.

>
>

Nashton

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May 17, 2013, 8:25:14 PM5/17/13
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Nope, doesn't cut the mustard. Even your fellow cultists are turning on you.

You haven't the slightest, you blathering poser.

Lloyd

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May 17, 2013, 11:15:16 PM5/17/13
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In article <kn6hke$a5q$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <hn...@na.com>
wrote:
I'm not sure that is true. What is missing from Ive is that he can
think up all kinds of ideas, but doesn't have the sense of what will
market well. That was Job's forte`!

Sandman

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May 18, 2013, 1:23:14 AM5/18/13
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In article <kn6hke$a5q$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <hn...@na.com>
wrote:

> > Huh? When did anyone refuse to admit it? I don't think anyone has
> > claimed that Jobs' shoes can be "filled" by someone. Steve Jobs was a
> > special person.
>
> Huh? Huh? What's this, a rebuttal?

It's actually called a "question".

> It's pretty much what everyone is hoping for, i.e. that the current crew
> at Apple will come close to the alleged genius of Jobs. But people

But people....what? And who is "everyone"? What do you base this claim
upon? When did "everyone" express this? And now it is only the
"alleged" genius? So some people are hoping that some people will be
as good as one person allegedly was? The ice is becoming thinner here.

> Read this a few times and it might just begin to sink in.

No matter how many times I read it, it doesn't answer the question,
not make the sentence complete.

> > I don't worship Steve Jobs the way you apparently does.
>
> I do
>
> you *do*
>
> he does.
>
> "I don't worship Steve Jobs in the same manner that you *DO*".

"Wallmart".

"But people"

> > Anyone claiming that Ive isn't creative is obviously too blind to
> > see anything.
>
> He's creative alright but no mastermind in dreaming up anything close to
> Jobs' toys.

No examples of the "toys" Jobs "dreamed up" all by himself? No? How
weird.

Again, I don't worship Jobs as much as you, so I'm not as knowledgable
about the details of the work he did. Please enlightenment about this
"alleged genius".




--
Sandman[.net]

jay birdsong

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May 18, 2013, 7:58:09 AM5/18/13
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"Lloyd" wrote in message
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I think we are all capable of doing that.

Cook is only lucky, not smart.
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