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Edwin

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Jun 17, 2008, 12:46:04 PM6/17/08
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iPhone 2.0 Upgrade Will Backfire On Apple

Submitted by Mitchell Ashley on Thu, 06/12/2008 - 4:22am.

Keep the iPhone you already have - here's why. I had an interesting "iPhone
3G debate" over drinks this evening with a passionate, but less than
thrilled, iPhone user. I'll call him "Don". Don, like every other iPhone
owner, was debating whether to upgrade to the new iPhone 3G or stick with
the iPhone he already had. Don's verdict? Keep the current iPhone. The
reason? Freedom of choice of cell phone carriers, and iPhone 2.0 software
works fine on his existing iPhone.

What you say? Freedom of choice for which carrier to use with the iPhone?
Yes. Don balked at the high cost of AT&T's broadband data plan (for the EDGE
network) and had opted to unlock his iPhone and use a cheaper (and slower)
data plan from T-Mobile. Don purchased his iPhone over the Web and
immediately unlocked it and got service with T-Mobile rather than the more
expensive AT&T service.

So, why not get the iPhone 3G and do the same thing? AT&T requires that you
purchase a two-year plan from it at the same time you buy an iPhone 3G. Only
someone rich enough to throw away a few thousand dollars would get the
iPhone 3G and a two-year AT&T plan, unlock it, and then pay another carrier
again for what they already paid for at AT&T. That's the behavior AT&T and
Apple are of course discouraging. AT&T wireless seems to be taking a page
right out of Apple's lock-in strategy. Too bad, because at least in this one
case (and likely many, many others), existing customers are faced with
signing up for another two-year stint with AT&T. Not providing a choice of
carriers will continue to torque wanna be iPhone users. But wait, there's
more.

Apple's limited hardware improvements and the 2.0 iPhone software upgrade
may both be strong deterrents and cause users to stick with their current
iPhones. Why?

To begin with, the iPhone 3G only brings three significant hardware
benefits: 1) 3G capabilities (faster data downloads, more international
networks), 2) built-in GPS, and 3) increased storage capacity. The first two
are very valid reasons to go out and get a new iPhone 3G, provided you need
those capabilities. The third, more storage, isn't as big an issue yet, at
least until downloadable iPhone apps become available and start to gobble up
storage capacity. Barring a need for any one or a combination of these three
hardware upgrades, there's no significant hardware benefits to the new
iPhone 3G. The original iPhone's more than adequate for doing basic e-mail
and Web page downloads, and running soon to be released iPhone apps through
the App Store.

That, along with being able to upgrade to the iPhone 2.0 software, users get
the much needed Exchange integration, improvements to Contacts search,
Office and iWorks document viewing, remote wipe and other new 2.0 software
benefits. So unless you really need one of those hardware benefits, most
iPhone users will be just as happy to stay with what they've got. Apple's
goal of 10 million iPhones sold this year could be in serious jeopardy
unless price reductions, 3G and more storage drive are enough to drive large
numbers of iPhone sales.

So unless you get your jollies over giving Apple more of your hard earned
money, you might just be better off sticking with your current iPhone.


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Snit

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Jun 18, 2008, 7:28:30 PM6/18/08
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"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> stated in post
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Kudos to Apple for making the iPhone what it should have been from the
start.

Every objection has been answered, other than for a removable battery and a
mechanical keyboard.

I think they'll give Blackberry, Palm, and LG a real run for their money
now.
-----


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BU__SH__

Edwin

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Jun 18, 2008, 7:41:26 PM6/18/08
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"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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Did I write the story I quoted, Snit?

Snit

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Jun 18, 2008, 9:16:47 PM6/18/08
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"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> stated in post
5701d$48599d27$98...@news.teranews.com on 6/18/08 4:41 PM:

>> Kudos to Apple for making the iPhone what it should have been from the start.
>>
>> Every objection has been answered, other than for a removable battery and a
>> mechanical keyboard.
>>
>> I think they'll give Blackberry, Palm, and LG a real run for their money now.
>>
> Did I write the story I quoted, Snit?

The fact you do not know does not speak well of you.


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Steve de Mena

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Jun 19, 2008, 1:58:32 AM6/19/08
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Edwin wrote:
> http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/28736?t51hb
>
> iPhone 2.0 Upgrade Will Backfire On Apple
>
> Submitted by Mitchell Ashley on Thu, 06/12/2008 - 4:22am.
>
> Keep the iPhone you already have - here's why. I had an interesting "iPhone
> 3G debate" over drinks this evening with a passionate, but less than
> thrilled, iPhone user. I'll call him "Don". Don, like every other iPhone
> owner, was debating whether to upgrade to the new iPhone 3G or stick with
> the iPhone he already had. Don's verdict? Keep the current iPhone. The
> reason? Freedom of choice of cell phone carriers, and iPhone 2.0 software
> works fine on his existing iPhone.

How does he know how? He has the iPhone 2.0 software on his unlocked
phone today? No chance it won't work once it is released?

> So, why not get the iPhone 3G and do the same thing? AT&T requires
that you
> purchase a two-year plan from it at the same time you buy an iPhone 3G. Only
> someone rich enough to throw away a few thousand dollars would get the
> iPhone 3G and a two-year AT&T plan, unlock it, and then pay another carrier
> again for what they already paid for at AT&T.

"Throw away a 'few thousand dollars'"? I thought AT&T charged like
$200 to terminate a contract, not "a fee thousand dollars".

> Apple's limited hardware improvements and the 2.0 iPhone software upgrade
> may both be strong deterrents and cause users to stick with their current
> iPhones. Why?
>
> To begin with, the iPhone 3G only brings three significant hardware
> benefits: 1) 3G capabilities (faster data downloads, more international
> networks), 2) built-in GPS, and 3) increased storage capacity. The first two
> are very valid reasons to go out and get a new iPhone 3G, provided you need
> those capabilities. The third, more storage, isn't as big an issue yet, at
> least until downloadable iPhone apps become available and start to gobble up
> storage capacity.

Hey, some people actually put things called "music", "videos",
"podcasts" and/or "pictures" on their iPhones today and chew through
8GB or 16GB in no time at all.

> Barring a need for any one or a combination of these three
> hardware upgrades, there's no significant hardware benefits to the new
> iPhone 3G. The original iPhone's more than adequate for doing basic e-mail
> and Web page downloads, and running soon to be released iPhone apps through
> the App Store.

Steve

Edwin

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Jun 19, 2008, 10:36:38 AM6/19/08
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"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> stated in post
> 5701d$48599d27$98...@news.teranews.com on 6/18/08 4:41 PM:
>
>>> Kudos to Apple for making the iPhone what it should have been from the
>>> start.
>>>
>>> Every objection has been answered, other than for a removable battery
>>> and a
>>> mechanical keyboard.
>>>
>>> I think they'll give Blackberry, Palm, and LG a real run for their money
>>> now.
>>>
>> Did I write the story I quoted, Snit?
>
> The fact you do not know does not speak well of you.

The fact you think that is so does not speak well of you.

Snit

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"Edwin" <Thor...@juno.com> stated in post
31385$485a6ef7$16...@news.teranews.com on 6/19/08 7:36 AM:

You asked if you wrote the story you quoted. One would think you should
know!

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everyone. -- Bill Cosby

Edwin

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Jun 19, 2008, 12:53:31 PM6/19/08
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"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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> "Edwin" <Thor...@juno.com> stated in post
> 31385$485a6ef7$16...@news.teranews.com on 6/19/08 7:36 AM:
>
>>
>> "Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>> news:C47F018F.C159B%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
>>> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> stated in post
>>> 5701d$48599d27$98...@news.teranews.com on 6/18/08 4:41 PM:
>>>
>>>>> Kudos to Apple for making the iPhone what it should have been from the
>>>>> start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every objection has been answered, other than for a removable battery
>>>>> and a
>>>>> mechanical keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think they'll give Blackberry, Palm, and LG a real run for their
>>>>> money
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>> Did I write the story I quoted, Snit?
>>>
>>> The fact you do not know does not speak well of you.
>>
>> The fact you think that is so does not speak well of you.
>
> You asked if you wrote the story you quoted. One would think you should
> know!

IOW, you're a literal dullard.

Snit

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Jun 19, 2008, 12:56:22 PM6/19/08
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"Edwin" <Thor...@juno.com> stated in post
865bf$485a8f0b$22...@news.teranews.com on 6/19/08 9:53 AM:

...


>>>> The fact you do not know does not speak well of you.
>>>
>>> The fact you think that is so does not speak well of you.
>>
>> You asked if you wrote the story you quoted. One would think you should
>> know!
>
> IOW, you're a literal dullard.

You asked a stupid question. I called you on it. Whine all you like.


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Edwin

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Jun 19, 2008, 1:37:34 PM6/19/08
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"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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> "Edwin" <Thor...@juno.com> stated in post
> 865bf$485a8f0b$22...@news.teranews.com on 6/19/08 9:53 AM:
>
> ...
>>>>> The fact you do not know does not speak well of you.
>>>>
>>>> The fact you think that is so does not speak well of you.
>>>
>>> You asked if you wrote the story you quoted. One would think you should
>>> know!
>>
>> IOW, you're a literal dullard.
>
> You asked a stupid question. I called you on it. Whine all you like.

I see you snipped out the context, before telling your lies, as usual.

Here's what really happened:

I quoted a story.

You quoted a contrary opinion of mine.

I asked you if the story written by me to get you to understand my opinions
don't have to match the article I quoted.

You got stupid, as usual.

Snit

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Jun 19, 2008, 3:24:42 PM6/19/08
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"Edwin" <Thor...@juno.com> stated in post
5bc9c$485a995f$50...@news.teranews.com on 6/19/08 10:37 AM:

You asked a stupid question. I called you on it. Whine away!

Edwin

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Jun 19, 2008, 3:40:10 PM6/19/08
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"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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The above are Sigmond's words to Snit.

Snit

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"Edwin" <Thor...@juno.com> stated in post
ae06c$485ab61a$16...@news.teranews.com on 6/19/08 12:40 PM:

Not only can you not tell what you write you cannot tell what others write.

Whatever. You are useless.

Edwin

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"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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Thank you for your introspection. It is harsh but accurate.

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