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Alan Baker
May 15, 2013, 2:45:27 PM5/15/13
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...far better than Galaxy phones.
<http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/study-finds-apples-iphone-reta
ins-more-value-than-top-galaxy-models>
Why do you think that might be, trolls?
Be sure to complain about the link! And the source!
:-)
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
<http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/study-finds-apples-iphone-reta
ins-more-value-than-top-galaxy-models>
Why do you think that might be, trolls?
Be sure to complain about the link! And the source!
:-)
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
jay birdsong
May 15, 2013, 4:06:21 PM5/15/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-55B89...@news.shawcable.net...
...far better than Galaxy phones.
<http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/study-finds-apples-iphone-reta
ins-more-value-than-top-galaxy-models>
>Why do you think that might be, trolls?
>Be sure to complain about the link! And the source!
whatever stoopid point you're trying to make, dies. LOL!!!
>:-)
oIo
snip dumb cunt sig.
Nashton
May 15, 2013, 10:10:58 PM5/15/13
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On 5/15/2013 5:06 PM, jay birdsong wrote:
>
>
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-55B89...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> ...far better than Galaxy phones.
>
> <http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/study-finds-apples-iphone-reta
> ins-more-value-than-top-galaxy-models>
>
>> Why do you think that might be, trolls?
>
>> Be sure to complain about the link! And the source!
Complain? Just stating the obvious.
>
>
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-55B89...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> ...far better than Galaxy phones.
>
> <http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/study-finds-apples-iphone-reta
> ins-more-value-than-top-galaxy-models>
>
>> Why do you think that might be, trolls?
>
>> Be sure to complain about the link! And the source!
And the source?
Don't make me laugh.
AD
May 17, 2013, 1:30:22 AM5/17/13
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average for over $200.
The price point below which _new_ android bottom feeders in tampax
format dwell.
No link so you can get the idea into your skull with relative ease.
Tommy Troll
May 17, 2013, 8:37:23 AM5/17/13
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iPhone 4, used, 16 MB, about $120 to $175 seems to cover most
Galaxy s3, used, 16 MB, $200 to $350 is common
David Fritzinger
May 17, 2013, 12:27:54 PM5/17/13
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In article <64ade888-5a4b-48c4...@googlegroups.com>,
Tommy, I think your comparison is a bit unfair. The iPhone 4 is now 2
generations old, and is free from multiple carriers with a 2 year
contract. The Galaxy S3 is, at most, one generation old (I say at most
because the S4 was only released recently). A comparison with an iPhone
4S would probably be more appropriate. However, it is you who is making
a big deal about eBay prices, so I will let you do the comp.
generations old, and is free from multiple carriers with a 2 year
contract. The Galaxy S3 is, at most, one generation old (I say at most
because the S4 was only released recently). A comparison with an iPhone
4S would probably be more appropriate. However, it is you who is making
a big deal about eBay prices, so I will let you do the comp.
MartyF81
May 24, 2013, 10:01:19 PM5/24/13
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On 2013-05-17 12:37:23 +0000, Tommy Troll said:
> Really? Looking at sold eBay items:
>
> iPhone 4, used, 16 MB, about $120 to $175 seems to cover most
> Galaxy s3, used, 16 MB, $200 to $350 is common
iPhone 4 is much older than a GS3. Thats not a similar comparison. If
> Really? Looking at sold eBay items:
>
> iPhone 4, used, 16 MB, about $120 to $175 seems to cover most
> Galaxy s3, used, 16 MB, $200 to $350 is common
you want to compare similar models you should compare by similar
releases:
1. iPhone 5 (September 2012) to the GS3 (July 2012)
2. iPhone 4S (October 2011) to the GS2 (May 2011)
3. iPhone 4 (June 2010) to the GS1 (June 2010)
If you look at actually comparable COMPLETED sales on eBay:
iPhone 4 sells for $200-$250, and the GS1 sells for under $100.
iPhone 4S sells for $300 - $350, and the GS2 for about $150.
iPhone 5 sells for $400 - $500 and the GS3 sells for $300.
I have purchased every iPhone since the 3G for $200, simply by selling
my old one 12 months later and applying the resale value to the new
purchase.
jay birdsong
May 25, 2013, 10:32:54 AM5/25/13
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"MartyF81" wrote in message
news:2013052421011990447-martyf81@gmailcom...
Take the original cost of the original iPhone, subtract the resale
price, add what's left to the purchase price of the new one. That's
the real cost. The easiest person to fool is yourself.
Laszlo Lebrun
May 25, 2013, 11:29:36 AM5/25/13
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On 15.05.2013 20:45, Alan Baker wrote:
> ....far better than Galaxy phones.
>
> <http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/study-finds-apples-iphone-reta
> ins-more-value-than-top-galaxy-models>
>
Tell me about keeping value: you won't get here on the German eBay a
working HTC HD2 for less than 100€, but get easily an iPhone 3GS for 84€
(both from well known remarketers)
--
One computer and three operating systems, not the other way round.
One wife and many hotels, not the other way round ! ;-)
> ....far better than Galaxy phones.
>
> <http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/study-finds-apples-iphone-reta
> ins-more-value-than-top-galaxy-models>
>
Tell me about keeping value: you won't get here on the German eBay a
working HTC HD2 for less than 100€, but get easily an iPhone 3GS for 84€
(both from well known remarketers)
--
One computer and three operating systems, not the other way round.
One wife and many hotels, not the other way round ! ;-)
Tommy Troll
May 25, 2013, 12:17:51 PM5/25/13
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Example - Sprint 900 minute plan, unlimited data and text, is about $110 a month when you throw in the taxes and fees. Virgin America's no contract 1200 minute unlimited data and text plan is $48 a month, including taxes and fees, and runs on the Sprint network. That's about $720 a year difference. I have Virgin now, and like it. I paid for my phone in about 4 months of price difference when I left Sprint. Or put another way, I could get a new phone every 3-6 months, and still come out ahead versus Sprint. It will not be the latest and greatest, but Virgin is about to make a major update on their phones.
Bottom line, you are not getting a "free" phone every year on a contract plan.
-hh
May 25, 2013, 1:02:19 PM5/25/13
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comparison part. The simple comparison metric is to look at the
boilerplate of a 2 year contract to see what the 'premium' is for an
iPhone vs. Galaxy while using the same service plan from the same
cellular provider. As such, even if it comes down to a $199 (new
iPhone) vs $1 (free Android), the math is:
($199 + 24 * ($XXX/month contract)) versus ($1 + 24 * ($XXX/month
contract))
For your above example of a $110/month plan from Sprint, it comes out
to $2839 vs $2641 ... a difference of 7% (or $8.25/month). YMMV on if
this is worth it or not (BTW, earlier this year on my cellular
provider, I found that they were offering me an iPhone5 for $99, not
$199, presumably because I'd been out-of-contract-lock and they wanted
to lock me back in).
And then, as you then go on to illustrate, simply shopping around for
a better service contract is a better way to save money: even
assuming a $600 iPhone, the Virgin plan you cited works out to $1752
for the same duration, which is 33% less than even the 'cheaper'
Android under Sprint.
-hh
MartyF81
May 25, 2013, 3:07:08 PM5/25/13
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Every iPhone, except the first 1, has retailed for the same price at
launch which is $200.00. As far as I know the past 3 versions of the
Galaxy have done the same start at $200.00. So initial selling prices
are comparing Apples to Apples.
I am initimately aware of how it works, I have had every iPhone since
the 3G and have afforded to do so by selling the last years model to
pay for the next. I have paid $200.00 for every iPhone since the 3G.
Every year.
MartyF81
May 25, 2013, 3:08:41 PM5/25/13
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talking about the other expenses. Just the ability for iPhone to retain
its value… say in comparison to a Galaxy.
Tommy Troll
May 26, 2013, 10:28:53 PM5/26/13
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Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me $68.75 a month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down to $58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text. The phone is an HTC running Ice Cream Sandwich.
What's your overall monthly cost, including taxes and fees, for 2 years?
Lloyd
May 26, 2013, 10:48:04 PM5/26/13
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In article <4c1fa610-9a45-4be0...@googlegroups.com>,
month for $60/month including the subsidy for the iPhone 5. And since
Verizon has the very best coverage in my area, why would I want some 2nd
rate deal from a carrier that doesn't have excellent coverage?
Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:07:08 PM UTC-4, MartyF81 wrote:
> > On 2013-05-25 14:32:54 +0000, jay birdsong said:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Take the original cost of the original iPhone, subtract the resale
> >
> > > price, add what's left to the purchase price of the new one. That's
> >
> > > the real cost. The easiest person to fool is yourself.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not Fuzzt mathŠ.
> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:07:08 PM UTC-4, MartyF81 wrote:
> > On 2013-05-25 14:32:54 +0000, jay birdsong said:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Take the original cost of the original iPhone, subtract the resale
> >
> > > price, add what's left to the purchase price of the new one. That's
> >
> > > the real cost. The easiest person to fool is yourself.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Every iPhone, except the first 1, has retailed for the same price at
> >
> > launch which is $200.00. As far as I know the past 3 versions of the
> >
> > Galaxy have done the same start at $200.00. So initial selling prices
> >
> > are comparing Apples to Apples.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am initimately aware of how it works, I have had every iPhone since
> >
> > the 3G and have afforded to do so by selling the last years model to
> >
> > pay for the next. I have paid $200.00 for every iPhone since the 3G.
> >
> > Every year.
>
> You both miss the point. The iPhone cost has to include the subsidy costs
> that the carrier is recovering in the monthly premium over s no-contract
> plan. You are both slaves to the advertising of Apple and the contract
> carriers.
>
> Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me $68.75 a
> month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down to
> $58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text. The
> phone is an HTC running Ice Cream Sandwich.
>
> What's your overall monthly cost, including taxes and fees, for 2 years?
My Verizon plan includes all the minutes and data I'll ever use in a
> >
> >
> > Every iPhone, except the first 1, has retailed for the same price at
> >
> > launch which is $200.00. As far as I know the past 3 versions of the
> >
> > Galaxy have done the same start at $200.00. So initial selling prices
> >
> > are comparing Apples to Apples.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am initimately aware of how it works, I have had every iPhone since
> >
> > the 3G and have afforded to do so by selling the last years model to
> >
> > pay for the next. I have paid $200.00 for every iPhone since the 3G.
> >
> > Every year.
>
> You both miss the point. The iPhone cost has to include the subsidy costs
> that the carrier is recovering in the monthly premium over s no-contract
> plan. You are both slaves to the advertising of Apple and the contract
> carriers.
>
> Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me $68.75 a
> month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down to
> $58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text. The
> phone is an HTC running Ice Cream Sandwich.
>
> What's your overall monthly cost, including taxes and fees, for 2 years?
month for $60/month including the subsidy for the iPhone 5. And since
Verizon has the very best coverage in my area, why would I want some 2nd
rate deal from a carrier that doesn't have excellent coverage?
Tommy Troll
May 27, 2013, 12:22:26 AM5/27/13
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Laszlo Lebrun
May 27, 2013, 2:02:57 AM5/27/13
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On 27.05.2013 04:48, Lloyd wrote:
> Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me $68.75 a
>>month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down to
>>$58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text.
Huh!
> Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me $68.75 a
>>month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down to
>>$58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text.
You call that attractive?
I'd rather pay for my phone and get a freely cancellable plan with the
same services for 15€ a month.
Tommy Troll
May 27, 2013, 7:44:15 AM5/27/13
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On Monday, May 27, 2013 2:02:57 AM UTC-4, Laszlo Lebrun wrote:
> On 27.05.2013 04:48, Lloyd wrote:
>
> > Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me $68.75 a
>
> >>month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down to
>
> >>$58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text.
>
>
>
> Huh!
>
> You call that attractive?
>
> I'd rather pay for my phone and get a freely cancellable plan with the
>
> same services for 15€ a month.
>
I would too. Who offers that plan in the U.S.?
> On 27.05.2013 04:48, Lloyd wrote:
>
> > Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me $68.75 a
>
> >>month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down to
>
> >>$58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text.
>
>
>
> Huh!
>
> You call that attractive?
>
> I'd rather pay for my phone and get a freely cancellable plan with the
>
> same services for 15€ a month.
>
Lloyd
May 27, 2013, 8:17:10 AM5/27/13
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In article <e3c4c4c5-e210-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,
more than enough for me.
Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, Lloyd wrote:
> > In article <4c1fa610-9a45-4be0...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:07:08 PM UTC-4, MartyF81 wrote:
> >
> > > > On 2013-05-25 14:32:54 +0000, jay birdsong said:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Take the original cost of the original iPhone, subtract the resale
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > price, add what's left to the purchase price of the new one. That's
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > the real cost. The easiest person to fool is yourself.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Not Fuzzt math�.
> On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, Lloyd wrote:
> > In article <4c1fa610-9a45-4be0...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:07:08 PM UTC-4, MartyF81 wrote:
> >
> > > > On 2013-05-25 14:32:54 +0000, jay birdsong said:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Take the original cost of the original iPhone, subtract the resale
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > price, add what's left to the purchase price of the new one. That's
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > the real cost. The easiest person to fool is yourself.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Every iPhone, except the first 1, has retailed for the same price at
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > launch which is $200.00. As far as I know the past 3 versions of the
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Galaxy have done the same start at $200.00. So initial selling prices
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > are comparing Apples to Apples.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I am initimately aware of how it works, I have had every iPhone since
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > the 3G and have afforded to do so by selling the last years model to
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > pay for the next. I have paid $200.00 for every iPhone since the 3G.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Every year.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > You both miss the point. The iPhone cost has to include the subsidy costs
> >
> > > that the carrier is recovering in the monthly premium over s no-contract
> >
> > > plan. You are both slaves to the advertising of Apple and the contract
> >
> > > carriers.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me
> > > $68.75 a
> >
> > > month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down
> > > to
> >
> > > $58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text. The
> >
> > > phone is an HTC running Ice Cream Sandwich.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > What's your overall monthly cost, including taxes and fees, for 2 years?
> >
> >
> >
> > My Verizon plan includes all the minutes and data I'll ever use in a
> >
> > month for $60/month including the subsidy for the iPhone 5. And since
> >
> > Verizon has the very best coverage in my area, why would I want some 2nd
> >
> > rate deal from a carrier that doesn't have excellent coverage?
>
> What plan is that?
Senior plan. I will admit it is restrictive on talk time, but it is
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Every iPhone, except the first 1, has retailed for the same price at
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > launch which is $200.00. As far as I know the past 3 versions of the
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Galaxy have done the same start at $200.00. So initial selling prices
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > are comparing Apples to Apples.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I am initimately aware of how it works, I have had every iPhone since
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > the 3G and have afforded to do so by selling the last years model to
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > pay for the next. I have paid $200.00 for every iPhone since the 3G.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Every year.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > You both miss the point. The iPhone cost has to include the subsidy costs
> >
> > > that the carrier is recovering in the monthly premium over s no-contract
> >
> > > plan. You are both slaves to the advertising of Apple and the contract
> >
> > > carriers.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Including the upfront cost of the phone, my Virgin plan will cost me
> > > $68.75 a
> >
> > > month for the first year. If I keep the phone 2 years, the cost goes down
> > > to
> >
> > > $58.37 a month. That's for 1200 minutes and unlimited data and text. The
> >
> > > phone is an HTC running Ice Cream Sandwich.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > What's your overall monthly cost, including taxes and fees, for 2 years?
> >
> >
> >
> > My Verizon plan includes all the minutes and data I'll ever use in a
> >
> > month for $60/month including the subsidy for the iPhone 5. And since
> >
> > Verizon has the very best coverage in my area, why would I want some 2nd
> >
> > rate deal from a carrier that doesn't have excellent coverage?
>
> What plan is that?
more than enough for me.
Tommy Troll
May 27, 2013, 12:41:15 PM5/27/13
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Alan Baker
May 27, 2013, 12:42:33 PM5/27/13
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In article <knqhqp$uf$1...@dont-email.me>,
So the real cost of your new car would be calculated the same way?
LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOLOL
LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOLOL
Lloyd
May 27, 2013, 1:50:48 PM5/27/13
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In article <b491f63a-f2b0-4cc8...@googlegroups.com>,
Yeah, for your useage it wouldn't be a good deal. For me it works very
good as I only use about 300 minutes at most a month and most of that is
on the weekends or nighttime. And I don't text at all.
The good part is that it is a fine price and product mix for me and at
the end of 2 years, since it is the iPhone 5, I can use it on almost any
carrier with no contract.
Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:17:10 AM UTC-4, Lloyd wrote:
> > In article <e3c4c4c5-e210-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <4c1fa610-9a45-4be0...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > On Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:07:08 PM UTC-4, MartyF81 wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > On 2013-05-25 14:32:54 +0000, jay birdsong said:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Take the original cost of the original iPhone, subtract the
> > > > > > > resale
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > > price, add what's left to the purchase price of the new one.
> > > > > > > That's
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > > the real cost. The easiest person to fool is yourself.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > Not Fuzzt math?.
> On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:17:10 AM UTC-4, Lloyd wrote:
> > In article <e3c4c4c5-e210-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:48:04 PM UTC-4, Lloyd wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <4c1fa610-9a45-4be0...@googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Tommy Troll <thomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > On Saturday, May 25, 2013 3:07:08 PM UTC-4, MartyF81 wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > On 2013-05-25 14:32:54 +0000, jay birdsong said:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > > > Take the original cost of the original iPhone, subtract the
> > > > > > > resale
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > >
> >
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good as I only use about 300 minutes at most a month and most of that is
on the weekends or nighttime. And I don't text at all.
The good part is that it is a fine price and product mix for me and at
the end of 2 years, since it is the iPhone 5, I can use it on almost any
carrier with no contract.
Nashton
May 27, 2013, 3:37:34 PM5/27/13
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Broken link.
Alan Baker
May 27, 2013, 3:38:41 PM5/27/13
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In article <ko0clq$v0p$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Nashton <na...@na.ca>
wrote:
> Broken link...
For incompetent users with sub-standard software.
wrote:
For incompetent users with sub-standard software.
jay birdsong
May 27, 2013, 4:47:27 PM5/27/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
>LOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOLOL
Ah! - a mating call.
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Alan Baker
May 27, 2013, 4:48:19 PM5/27/13
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jay birdsong
May 27, 2013, 5:23:35 PM5/27/13
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
WHOA!!!! A ONE MINUTE response!!!!! Get a life, you loser turd.
Stalking me doesn't pay money.
But, one day closer to payday.
Use a pillow, you'll get there faster.
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Laszlo Lebrun
May 28, 2013, 1:36:40 PM5/28/13
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On 27.05.2013 13:44, Tommy Troll wrote:
> I would too. Who offers that plan in the U.S.?
The US is a biased market with device manufacturers dictating their
> I would too. Who offers that plan in the U.S.?
conditions to the carriers and bare services plans not being usual. In
Europe you have got a better competition and the carriers can make
enough money with flat plans as low as 15€/month.
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