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Snow Leopard over 300% Faster At Transferring 30,000 Files Than Win 7

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John

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Jan 1, 2010, 1:45:27 AM1/1/10
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Just copyed 30,122 files to my Mac Pro From a DVD. I have installed the
exact same model DVD writer from Pioneer in both my Mac Pro and my 4
core Dell. The Dell and Mac Pro both have the EXACT same model number
1.5TB Seagate disk. The Mac Pro is a June 2007 Dual Processor with 4
cores. The Dell also has 4 cores.

Mac Pro(10.6.2) Time To Transfer: 19min:32sec

Dell (Win 7) Time To Transfer 1:03:12 (Over ONE HOUR!!!


Win 7 has the same sluggish performance transferring thousands of files
that Vista did. Total SLUGGISH POS. Win XP is FAAR faster with
multiple files.

Father Justin

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Jan 1, 2010, 1:06:09 PM1/1/10
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Interesting.
When I copy to and from a jump drive formatted to NTFS its faster on the
mac.
I will ahve to do a test and see how long it takes on both machines.
Wouldn't that be interesting if the Mac could outperform Windows - using
its own filesystem.

MuahMan

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Jan 1, 2010, 3:54:03 PM1/1/10
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I did the same thing the other day with tons of files. I had the exact
opposite results you did.

John

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Jan 1, 2010, 4:05:13 PM1/1/10
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TOTAL BULLSIT!!! You don't even have a Mac and 10.6.2. If you do
then post from it.

Tim Murray

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Jan 1, 2010, 11:36:50 PM1/1/10
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MuahMan wrote:
> I did the same thing the other day with tons of files. I had the exact
> opposite results you did.

Film it.

MuahMan

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:24:28 AM1/2/10
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On Jan 1, 1:45 am, John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

TOTAL BULLSIT!!! You don't even have a PC and Windows 7. If you

MuahMan

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:24:45 AM1/2/10
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Film it or it's BS!

Steve de Mena

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:08:31 AM1/2/10
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Father Justin wrote:
> John wrote:
>> Just copyed 30,122 files to my Mac Pro From a DVD. I have installed
>> the exact same model DVD writer from Pioneer in both my Mac Pro and my
>> 4 core Dell. The Dell and Mac Pro both have the EXACT same model
>> number 1.5TB Seagate disk. The Mac Pro is a June 2007 Dual Processor
>> with 4 cores. The Dell also has 4 cores.
>>
>> Mac Pro(10.6.2) Time To Transfer: 19min:32sec
>>
>> Dell (Win 7) Time To Transfer 1:03:12 (Over ONE HOUR!!!
>>
>>
>> Win 7 has the same sluggish performance transferring thousands of
>> files that Vista did. Total SLUGGISH POS. Win XP is FAAR faster
>> with multiple files.
>
> Interesting.
> When I copy to and from a jump drive formatted to NTFS its faster on the
> mac.

I didn't think the Mac could write to NTFS.

> I will ahve to do a test and see how long it takes on both machines.
> Wouldn't that be interesting if the Mac could outperform Windows - using
> its own filesystem.

Steve

Steve Mackay

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:25:09 PM1/3/10
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Steve de Mena wrote:
> Father Justin wrote:
>> John wrote:
>>> Just copyed 30,122 files to my Mac Pro From a DVD. I have installed
>>> the exact same model DVD writer from Pioneer in both my Mac Pro and
>>> my 4 core Dell. The Dell and Mac Pro both have the EXACT same model
>>> number 1.5TB Seagate disk. The Mac Pro is a June 2007 Dual Processor
>>> with 4 cores. The Dell also has 4 cores.
>>>
>>> Mac Pro(10.6.2) Time To Transfer: 19min:32sec
>>>
>>> Dell (Win 7) Time To Transfer 1:03:12 (Over ONE HOUR!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Win 7 has the same sluggish performance transferring thousands of
>>> files that Vista did. Total SLUGGISH POS. Win XP is FAAR faster
>>> with multiple files.
>>
>> Interesting.
>> When I copy to and from a jump drive formatted to NTFS its faster on
>> the mac.
>
> I didn't think the Mac could write to NTFS.

http://tinyurl.com/lwkad6

Tim Murray

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:41:19 PM1/3/10
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Steve de Mena wrote:

> I didn't think the Mac could write to NTFS.

In Snow Leopard it's included, but not enabled as shipped.

Steve de Mena

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:21:35 AM1/4/10
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That's cool, just found out how to set that up.

Steve

Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:01:33 AM1/4/10
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"Steve de Mena" <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote in message
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"By default, Macs running Mac OS X 10.4.* (Tiger) or Mac OS X 10.5.*
(Leopard) can read NTFS drives, but not write to them."


Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:02:55 AM1/4/10
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"Steve Mackay" <mackay...@att.net> wrote in message
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By Maccie rules third party add-ons don't count. It has to be part of the
OS to count. At least that was the double standard they applied to
Windows.


Steve de Mena

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:46:29 PM1/4/10
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With Snow Leopard you can now write to NTFS if you make a change to
/etc/fstab. I did that last night & can now write to my BOOTCAMP
volume successfully. Cool.

Steve

Alan Baker

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:56:14 PM1/4/10
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In article <ipn0n.3922$XU....@newsfe03.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

Oh, Edwin...

Go out and learn some things before you end up spending two weeks
insisting on something that isn't true.

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

Alan Baker

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:56:42 PM1/4/10
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In article <Aqn0n.391$Kq7...@newsfe04.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

It's Pixar all over again!

Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:04:21 PM1/4/10
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"John" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Why should we believe you but not him?


Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:04:41 PM1/4/10
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"Tim Murray" <no-...@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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Where's John's film?


Alan Baker

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:12:47 PM1/4/10
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In article <dZq0n.12542$w21....@newsfe17.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

And why would it matter to you? Even if shown, you deny reality.

Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:10:39 PM1/4/10
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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According to the little voices inside your head.

My posts about Pixar have left you emotionally scarred. You can't forget
them, even years later.


Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:11:39 PM1/4/10
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> In article <ipn0n.3922$XU....@newsfe03.iad>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> "Steve de Mena" <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote in message
>> news:rZadnQyfKLRD59zW...@giganews.com...
>> > Tim Murray wrote:
>> >> Steve de Mena wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I didn't think the Mac could write to NTFS.
>> >>
>> >> In Snow Leopard it's included, but not enabled as shipped.
>> >>
>> > That's cool, just found out how to set that up.
>> >
>> > Steve
>>
>> "By default, Macs running Mac OS X 10.4.* (Tiger) or Mac OS X 10.5.*
>> (Leopard) can read NTFS drives, but not write to them."
>
> Oh, Edwin...
>
> Go out and learn some things before you end up spending two weeks
> insisting on something that isn't true.

Does projecting your circumstances into me help to soothe your dark soul?


Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:12:50 PM1/4/10
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> In article <dZq0n.12542$w21....@newsfe17.iad>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> "Tim Murray" <no-...@thankyou.com> wrote in message
>> news:hhmih2$9ik$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > MuahMan wrote:
>> >> I did the same thing the other day with tons of files. I had the exact
>> >> opposite results you did.
>> >
>> > Film it.
>>
>> Where's John's film?
>
> And why would it matter to you?

Why doesn't it matter to you?

> Even if shown, you deny reality.

You have me confused with Alan Baker.


Alan Baker

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:07:18 PM1/4/10
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In article <3Xr0n.12547$w21....@newsfe17.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

I don't waste a moment of time thinking about them, except when it
amuses me because of something new you've said that's similar.

Alan Baker

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:07:23 PM1/4/10
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In article <%Xr0n.9675$Sh7....@newsfe25.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

LOL

Alan Baker

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:07:30 PM1/4/10
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In article <7Zr0n.720$AO4...@newsfe02.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

LOL

Edwin

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:46:16 PM1/4/10
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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The little voices inside your head are contradicting each other, as usual.
Post after they get things sorted out. That would mean, of course, that
you would never post again.


Alan Baker

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:49:14 PM1/4/10
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In article <Ikt0n.1006$rH7...@newsfe19.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

LOL

Chance Furlong

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:57:35 PM1/4/10
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In article <Ikt0n.1006$rH7...@newsfe19.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message

> news:alangbaker-47A8E...@news.shawcable.com...


> >
> > I don't waste a moment of time thinking about them, except when it
> > amuses me because of something new you've said that's similar.
>
> The little voices inside your head are contradicting each other, as usual.
> Post after they get things sorted out. That would mean, of course, that
> you would never post again.

What is it you have with voices? Are you schizophrenic yourself?

John

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:30:52 AM1/5/10
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Here is a post from my Dell using Thunderbird on Win 7 Ultimate.

Steve Carroll

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:26:12 AM1/5/10
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On Dec 31 2009, 11:45 pm, John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Just copyed 30,122 files to my Mac Pro From a DVD.  I have installed the
> exact same model DVD writer from Pioneer in both my Mac Pro and my 4
> core Dell.  The Dell and Mac Pro both have the EXACT same model number
> 1.5TB Seagate disk.  The Mac Pro is a June 2007 Dual Processor with 4
> cores.  The Dell also has 4 cores.
>
> Mac Pro(10.6.2) Time To Transfer: 19min:32sec
>
> Dell (Win 7) Time To Transfer  1:03:12 (Over ONE HOUR!!!
>
> Win 7 has the same sluggish performance transferring thousands of files
> that Vista did.   Total SLUGGISH POS.  Win XP is FAAR faster with
> multiple files.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31012_7-10319612-10355804.html

Dave

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:12:26 AM1/5/10
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John wrote:
> Just copyed 30,122 files to my Mac Pro From a DVD. I have installed the
> exact same model DVD writer from Pioneer in both my Mac Pro and my 4
> core Dell. The Dell and Mac Pro both have the EXACT same model number
> 1.5TB Seagate disk. The Mac Pro is a June 2007 Dual Processor with 4
> cores. The Dell also has 4 cores.
>
> Mac Pro(10.6.2) Time To Transfer: 19min:32sec
>
> Dell (Win 7) Time To Transfer 1:03:12 (Over ONE HOUR!!!
>
>
> Win 7 has the same sluggish performance transferring thousands of files
> that Vista did. Total SLUGGISH POS. Win XP is FAAR faster with
> multiple files.


Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
HDD is a WDC WD2500AAJS, NTFS formatted
32,010 files, 15,289,294,848 bytes
Time to Transfer: 14mins:37sec

John

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:06:05 PM1/5/10
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Next time try reading them from a DVD or thumb drive.

MuahMan

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:20:41 PM1/5/10
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"All this proves is you know how to forge headers!!!! Film It or it's
fake!!!!"

The above is a classic Mactard line.

Steve de Mena

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:01:04 PM1/5/10
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Apple doesn't support Windows 7 yet with Boot Camp, do I presume these
tests were done with unsupported Vista-era drivers?

They should have used identical hard drives too.

Steve

MuahMan

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:02:27 PM1/5/10
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Notice how he used apps ported from the Mac as well.

Edwin

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"Chance Furlong" <T-B...@megakatcity.com> wrote in message
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Those questions don't carry much weight coming from a grown man who posts
under the name of a kid's cartoon character.


Edwin

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"MuahMan" <mua...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Alan Baker would be first in line to tell you about header forging if you
tried to use them as proof against a Maccie! LOL


Steve Mackay

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:52:30 AM1/8/10
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On 1/1/2010 12:45 AM, John wrote:
> Just copyed 30,122 files to my Mac Pro From a DVD. I have installed the
> exact same model DVD writer from Pioneer in both my Mac Pro and my 4
> core Dell. The Dell and Mac Pro both have the EXACT same model number
> 1.5TB Seagate disk. The Mac Pro is a June 2007 Dual Processor with 4
> cores. The Dell also has 4 cores.
>
> Mac Pro(10.6.2) Time To Transfer: 19min:32sec
>
> Dell (Win 7) Time To Transfer 1:03:12 (Over ONE HOUR!!!
>
>
> Win 7 has the same sluggish performance transferring thousands of files
> that Vista did. Total SLUGGISH POS. Win XP is FAAR faster with multiple
> files.

Now turn off Remote Differential Compression.

Control Panel => Programs and features =>Turn Windows features on of off
=> uncheck "remote differential compression" => click okay. Now reboot.


It'll be an order of magnitude faster.

alan

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Jan 8, 2010, 8:46:35 PM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 8:14 am, "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> "MuahMan" <muah...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Actually, you're wrong (as usual).

I'd be among the first to tell you that I take everything that John
says with a dose of salt...

...actually, even that is wrong.

I pretty much ignore everything John says about computers. He has
pretty much zero credibility with me.

John

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Jan 8, 2010, 9:35:37 PM1/8/10
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Of course you do. You're a low IQ idiot.

Alan Baker

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:15:35 PM1/8/10
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In article <9fednX9_OpzkdtrW...@giganews.com>,
John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

John: what have I told you about keeping quiet when the adults are
having a conversation?

Edwin

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"alan" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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If my name is Alan Baker.

"I'd be among the first to tell you that I take everything that John
says with a dose of salt...

...actually, even that is wrong."

Of course it's wrong! You're Alan "Always Wrong" Baker! This isn't
about disbelieving YOUR enemies, this is about YOUR double standards! LOL

"I pretty much ignore everything John says about computers."

You'd be better off ignoring anything YOU say about computers, and almost
everything else besides! You probably ought to seek out advice on how to
breathe! LOL

"He has pretty much zero credibility with me."

That's a good endorsement for John.


Edwin

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Jan 11, 2010, 11:25:14 AM1/11/10
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9fednX9_OpzkdtrW...@giganews.com>,
> John <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/8/10 5:46 PM, alan wrote:
>> > On Jan 8, 8:14 am, "Edwin"<thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >> "MuahMan"<muah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> news:39ed7d3f-d547-4b81...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Jan 5, 1:30 am, John<nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/4/2010 11:04 AM, Edwin wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> "John"<nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:2t2dnc9Dpd0U_qPW...@giganews.com...
>> >>>>> On 1/1/10 12:54 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Jan 1, 1:45 am, John<nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
[snip]

>> >
>> > I pretty much ignore everything John says about computers. He has
>> > pretty much zero credibility with me.
>>
>>
>> Of course you do. You're a low IQ idiot.
>
> John: what have I told you about keeping quiet when the adults are
> having a conversation?

That you wish you had a nickel for ever time somebody said that to you,
Alan?


Alan Baker

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Jan 11, 2010, 11:49:00 AM1/11/10
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In article <KhI2n.18181$Sh7...@newsfe25.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

Nope. Sorry.

Alan Baker

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Jan 11, 2010, 12:05:10 PM1/11/10
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In article <tgI2n.7866$Kq7....@newsfe04.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

LOL

Edwin

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Jan 11, 2010, 2:02:16 PM1/11/10
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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Too bad. You would be richer than King Midas by now if you had been
granted that wish.


Alan Baker

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Jan 11, 2010, 2:04:29 PM1/11/10
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In article <_AK2n.8428$Kq7....@newsfe04.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

Nope. Sorry.

Edwin

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Jan 11, 2010, 5:46:33 PM1/11/10
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"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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Could this be your new "LOL?"


Alan Baker

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Jan 11, 2010, 5:47:38 PM1/11/10
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In article <eTN2n.22733$AO4....@newsfe02.iad>,
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:

LOL

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