Halo Edition of Zune
Edwin
http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
That can't be good for Apple...
Alan Baker
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
How could Apple put out a product that used Microsoft's intellectual
property in that manner?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Snit
1190908512.9...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com on 9/27/07 8:55 AM:
>
> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> That can't be good for Apple...
>
Another example of MS trying to copy Apple with their famous iPod Halo
Effect. :)
--
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please
everyone. -- Bill Cosby
Sandman
Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
none?
That can't be good for Micrsoft...
Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
--
Sandman[.net]
Alan Baker
Yeah...
The iPod is barely holding on...
to 13 of the top 20 spots in Amazon.com's Bestsellers list in Portable
Audio & Video.
LOL
The iPod is really "killed" this time!
MuahMan
"Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
news:mr-155456.18...@News.Individual.NET...
> In article <1190908512.9...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>>
>> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>>
>> That can't be good for Apple...
>
> Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
> none?
>
How does DX10 games run on your Mac? LOL@ Mactards
Sandman
"MuahMan" <mua...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> That can't be good for Apple...
> >
> > Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
> > none?
> >
>
> How does DX10 games run on your Mac?
In DX9 mode, of course, which is why I have a dual SLI with DX10
running Windows Vista.
PC, only good for games.
--
Sandman[.net]
C Lund
> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
Who cares? Why should there be one?
How many Halo 3 Zunes are you going to buy?
> That can't be good for Apple...
Won't hurt Apple either.
--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund
Edwin
> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> > That can't be good for Apple...
>
> How could Apple put out a product that used Microsoft's intellectual
> property in that manner?
They can't. That's what's not good for them. Duh!
MuahMan
And EVERY SINGLE CORPORATION ON PLANET EARTH!
Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of the PC
industry by 2010.
>
> --
> Sandman[.net]
C Lund
How well do XBox games run on Vista?
--
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund
Edwin
> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> > That can't be good for Apple...
>
> Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
> none?
How are you
Edwin
> In article <Z7idna6dG8tpZGbbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdn...@comcast.com>,
>
> "MuahMan" <muah...@aol.com> wrote:
> > How does DX10 games run on your Mac? LOL@ Mactards
>
> How well do XBox games run on Vista?
Great! Thanks for asking.
Edwin
> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> > That can't be good for Apple...
>
> Yeah...
I'm glad you agree.
> The iPod is barely holding on...
That's an extreme view, but I won't argue with you.
> to 13 of the top 20 spots in Amazon.com's Bestsellers list in Portable
> Audio & Video.
For now. Tomorrow is another day.
> LOL
WD40
> The iPod is really "killed" this time!
I accept your grim assessment of the situation.
Edwin
> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> Who cares?
You do.
> Why should there be one?
So Halo fans can buy one.
> How many Halo 3 Zunes are you going to buy?
One for every intelligent post you've made.
> > That can't be good for Apple...
>
> Won't hurt Apple either.
As long as losing lots of sales doesn't hurt.
Edwin
> "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> stated in post
> 1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com on 9/27/07 8:55 AM:
>
>
>
> >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> > That can't be good for Apple...
>
> Another example of MS trying to copy Apple with their famous iPod Halo
> Effect. :)
Another example of Microsoft succeeding where Apple failed.
Edwin
> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> > That can't be good for Apple...
>
> Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version?
The same place the iPod versions of those are. Why do you suppose
Halo fans will care about those?
> What? There is none?
None of those from Apple.
> That can't be good for Micrsoft...
>
> Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
How would you know? Or is it that a smiley makes it okay to lie?
Snit
Yeah, if only Apple could make a music player with as much appeal as the
Zune. Man... I look forward to that. :)
--
One who makes no mistakes, never makes anything.
John Slade
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1190908512.9...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> That can't be good for Apple...
>
I don't have to read further because I know one of those Mac kook
zealots will say it's ugly. If Apple sold the iPod to Microsoft, Apple kook
zealots would say it's ugly.
John
Edwin
"Snit" <CS...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
news:C3216072.9259A%CS...@gallopinginsanity.com...
Me too.
Snit
>> Yeah, if only Apple could make a music player with as much appeal as the
>> Zune. Man... I look forward to that. :)
>
> Me too.
Do you think it could *ever* happen?
--
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
that take our breath away.
zara
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> stated in post
> 04CdnZIZdaHRyGHb...@comcast.com on 9/27/07 6:12 PM:
>
>>> Yeah, if only Apple could make a music player with as much appeal as the
>>> Zune. Man... I look forward to that. :)
>>
>> Me too.
>
> Do you think it could *ever* happen?
"Someone" will do it. It's only a matter of time.
zaras crystal ball says: A Chinese company, is my prediction.
Sandman
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:57 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> >
> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
> >
> > > That can't be good for Apple...
> >
> > Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
> > none?
>
> How are you
Fine, thanks.
> > That can't be good for Micrsoft...
> >
> > Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
> >
> > --
> > Sandman[.net]
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:57 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> >
> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
> >
> > > That can't be good for Apple...
> >
> > Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version?
>
> The same place the iPod versions of those are.
Why the obsession of the iPod?
> Why do you suppose Halo fans will care about those?
Why do you suppose Halo fans are the only game-related fans that count?
> > What? There is none?
>
> None of those from Apple.
Of course not, that would be stupid. Apple has product red versions of
their iPod to help aids research, not some silly game-related
versions.
> > That can't be good for Micrsoft...
> >
> > Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
>
> How would you know?
How I would know that the Zune never sold well?
> Or is it that a smiley makes it okay to lie?
I wouldn't know, I never lie.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"MuahMan" <mua...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> news:mr-5C1F1D.21...@News.Individual.NET...
> > In article <Z7idna6dG8tpZGbb...@comcast.com>,
> > "MuahMan" <mua...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> That can't be good for Apple...
> >> >
> >> > Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
> >> > none?
> >> >
> >>
> >> How does DX10 games run on your Mac?
> >
> > In DX9 mode, of course, which is why I have a dual SLI with DX10
> > running Windows Vista.
> >
> > PC, only good for games.
>
> And EVERY SINGLE CORPORATION ON PLANET EARTH!
*yawn*
> Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of the PC
> industry by 2010.
PC, only good for games.
--
Sandman[.net]
Snit
mr-335180.07...@News.Individual.NET on 9/27/07 10:54 PM:
> In article <1190922055.2...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 27, 11:57 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
>>> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>>
>>> Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>>>
>>>> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>>>
>>>> That can't be good for Apple...
>>>
>>> Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
>>> none?
>>
>> How are you
>
> Fine, thanks.
I was about to blame you for dishonest snipping... but I checked and he
really did end his sentence there. OK. :)
--
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
Sandman
Snit <CS...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> stated in post
> mr-335180.07...@News.Individual.NET on 9/27/07 10:54 PM:
>
> > In article <1190922055.2...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sep 27, 11:57 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> >>> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >>>
> >>> Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> >>>
> >>>> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
> >>>
> >>>> That can't be good for Apple...
> >>>
> >>> Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version? What? There is
> >>> none?
> >>
> >> How are you
> >
> > Fine, thanks.
>
> I was about to blame you for dishonest snipping... but I checked and he
> really did end his sentence there. OK. :)
:)
--
Sandman[.net]
Edwin
"C Lund" <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote in message
news:clund-9A6639....@84.sub-97-20-208.myvzw.com...
> In article <1190922101....@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Great! Thanks for asking.
Edwin
> In article <1190922845....@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 27, 11:57 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
>> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>> >
>> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>> >
>> > > That can't be good for Apple...
>> >
>> > Where's the Crysis version of Zune? Bioshock version?
>>
>> The same place the iPod versions of those are.
>
> Why the obsession of the iPod?
I see your fear of the Zune has made you reluctant to continue to discuss
the iPod. You'll have to explain your obsessions for yourself, however.
>> Why do you suppose Halo fans will care about those?
>
> Why do you suppose Halo fans are the only game-related fans that count?
>
>> > What? There is none?
>>
>> None of those from Apple.
>
> Of course not, that would be stupid.
Then why did you ask for Zune versions of them?
> Apple has product red versions of
> their iPod to help aids research, not some silly game-related
> versions.
Your fear of the Zune is palpable. Your promotion of iPod by using AIDS
reseach as a marketing aid is reprehensible.
>> > That can't be good for Micrsoft...
>> >
>> > Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
>>
>> How would you know?
>
> How I would know that the Zune never sold well?
Is that what you wrote above? Or did you write "it's never been good?"
Must you be willfully stupid in *every* post you make?
>> Or is it that a smiley makes it okay to lie?
>
> I wouldn't know, I never lie.
You lie in the face of your exposed lies.
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Didn't you say that you only pay lip-service to Vista and still run
Windows XP?
--
Sandman[.net]
Edwin
"C Lund" <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote in message
> In article <1190922541.5...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2:35 pm, C Lund <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote:
>> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>> > Who cares?
>> You do.
>
So you're in this thread because you love to discuss things you don't care
about?
>> > Why should there be one?
>> So Halo fans can buy one.
>
> Do you really think an H3 "look" would attract more buyers than it
> would turn away?
You really need an answer to that question?
>> > How many Halo 3 Zunes are you going to buy?
>
>> One for every intelligent post you've made.
>
> I see you're too embarrassed to give an honest answer to that one.. ;)
You're not going to get me to buy any Zunes with replies like that.
>> > > That can't be good for Apple...
>> > Won't hurt Apple either.
>> As long as losing lots of sales doesn't hurt.
>
> You really think Apple would lose sales by not having a k3wl iPod for
> l33t H3 g4m3r d00dZ? Seriously?
Not if people are going to buy both a Zune and an iPod. That doesn't seem
likely.
> I thought the U2 iPod was stupid. This
> is even worse.
Yeah, this will take iPod sales away.
> It also shows how desperate MS is to increase zune sales.
You think a tie-in to a successful product is a sign of "desperation?"
You must have came by that opinion by watching Apple announce the iMac as
being from "the company that brought you the iPod."
--
"Apple" is off-topic in comp.sys.MAC.advocacy. -- Sandman
Edwin
Crush the Mac is my favorite PC game.
Edwin
The little voice inside your head said that.
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of the
> >> PC
> >> industry by 2010.
> >
> > PC, only good for games.
>
> Crush the Mac is my favorite PC game.
Cool. I prefer Crysis, Enemy Territory and Bioshock myself.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Why the obsession of the iPod?
>
> I see your fear of the Zune has made you reluctant to continue to discuss
> the iPod. You'll have to explain your obsessions for yourself, however.
Fear of what now? The Zune? What is that now again? A media player?
Hmmm...
> >> > What? There is none?
> >>
> >> None of those from Apple.
> >
> > Of course not, that would be stupid.
>
> Then why did you ask for Zune versions of them?
I was making fun of your question that asked for a game-themed version
of the iPod.
> > Apple has product red versions of
> > their iPod to help aids research, not some silly game-related
> > versions.
>
> Your fear of the Zune is palpable.
Huh? I can't even *buy* a Zune here in Sweden. It's not even on the
radar.
> Your promotion of iPod by using AIDS
> reseach as a marketing aid is reprehensible.
I rather buy a product red version of the iPod to support aids
research than a game version of the zune to support Microsoft.
> >> > That can't be good for Micrsoft...
> >> >
> >> > Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
> >>
> >> How would you know?
> >
> > How I would know that the Zune never sold well?
>
> Is that what you wrote above?
I interpreted your "That can't be good" as not being good for iPod
sales.
> Or did you write "it's never been good?"
Zune sales, that is.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > How does DX10 games run on your Mac? LOL@ Mactards
> >> >> > How well do XBox games run on Vista?
> >> >> Great! Thanks for asking.
> >> >
> >> > Next question: How well does Vista run... period? ;)
> >>
> >> Great! Thanks for asking.
> >
> > Didn't you say that you only pay lip-service to Vista and still run
> > Windows XP?
>
> The little voice inside your head said that.
When did you buy Vista? You said ten days ago that you still use
Windows XP
Support for my claim, as usual:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
2ea>
So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> >> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
> >> > Who cares?
> >> You do.
> >
> > Nope.
>
> So you're in this thread because you love to discuss things you don't care
> about?
Do you care about the things being discussed in the threads you
participate in?
> >> > How many Halo 3 Zunes are you going to buy?
> >
> >> One for every intelligent post you've made.
> >
> > I see you're too embarrassed to give an honest answer to that one.. ;)
>
> You're not going to get me to buy any Zunes with replies like that.
So you're just paying lip service. How many Xboxes and Halo 3 copies
do you own?
> >> > > That can't be good for Apple...
> >> > Won't hurt Apple either.
> >> As long as losing lots of sales doesn't hurt.
> >
> > You really think Apple would lose sales by not having a k3wl iPod for
> > l33t H3 g4m3r d00dZ? Seriously?
>
> Not if people are going to buy both a Zune and an iPod. That doesn't seem
> likely.
Not, they will likely just buy an iPod.
> > I thought the U2 iPod was stupid. This
> > is even worse.
>
> Yeah, this will take iPod sales away.
*saved yet another explicit claim from Edwin*
> > It also shows how desperate MS is to increase zune sales.
>
> You think a tie-in to a successful product is a sign of "desperation?"
Well, when the product doesn't sell at all... :)
> You must have came by that opinion by watching Apple announce the iMac as
> being from "the company that brought you the iPod."
--
Sandman[.net]
Edwin
> In article <CoWdncIqpJKPeGHbnZ2dnUVZ_gidn...@comcast.com>,
>
> "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > > How does DX10 games run on your Mac? LOL@ Mactards
> > >> >> > How well do XBox games run on Vista?
> > >> >> Great! Thanks for asking.
>
> > >> > Next question: How well does Vista run... period? ;)
>
> > >> Great! Thanks for asking.
>
> > > Didn't you say that you only pay lip-service to Vista and still run
> > > Windows XP?
>
> > The little voice inside your head said that.
>
> When did you buy Vista?
Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
> You said ten days ago that you still use
> Windows XP
How does that exclude me from having Vista?
> Support for my claim, as usual:
> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
> 2ea>
>
> So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
> lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
Edwin
> In article <zuSdnZbr3q-xS2HbnZ2dnUVZ_tykn...@comcast.com>,
>
> "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > Why the obsession of the iPod?
>
> > I see your fear of the Zune has made you reluctant to continue to discuss
> > the iPod. You'll have to explain your obsessions for yourself, however.
>
> Fear of what now? The Zune? What is that now again? A media player?
> Hmmm...
Your fears are irrational even to yourself.
> > >> > What? There is none?
>
> > >> None of those from Apple.
>
> > > Of course not, that would be stupid.
>
> > Then why did you ask for Zune versions of them?
>
> I was making fun of your question that asked for a game-themed version
> of the iPod.
Once again you decided acting stupid somehow made fun of something I
wrote.
> > > Apple has product red versions of
> > > their iPod to help aids research, not some silly game-related
> > > versions.
>
> > Your fear of the Zune is palpable.
>
> Huh? I can't even *buy* a Zune here in Sweden. It's not even on the
> radar.
You fear its effect on the company you worship.
> > Your promotion of iPod by using AIDS
> > reseach as a marketing aid is reprehensible.
>
> I rather buy a product red version of the iPod to support aids
> research than a game version of the zune to support Microsoft.
I'll bet dollars to donuts you didn't buy a red iPod.
> > >> > That can't be good for Micrsoft...
>
> > >> > Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
>
> > >> How would you know?
>
> > > How I would know that the Zune never sold well?
>
> > Is that what you wrote above?
>
> I interpreted your "That can't be good" as not being good for iPod
> sales.
We're talking about what you wrote, not what I wrote.
> > Or did you write "it's never been good?"
>
> Zune sales, that is.
You need remedial writing courses.
Alan Baker
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:46 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> >
> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
> >
> > > That can't be good for Apple...
> >
> > How could Apple put out a product that used Microsoft's intellectual
> > property in that manner?
>
> They can't. That's what's not good for them. Duh!
So, you're claiming that this will have a material effect on iPod vs
Zune sales figures?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Alan Baker
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 12:04 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> >
> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
> >
> > > That can't be good for Apple...
> >
> > Yeah...
>
> I'm glad you agree.
>
> > The iPod is barely holding on...
>
> That's an extreme view, but I won't argue with you.
>
> > to 13 of the top 20 spots in Amazon.com's Bestsellers list in Portable
> > Audio & Video.
>
> For now. Tomorrow is another day.
So it is!
Now, are you bold enough to turn that into an actual prediction?
>
> > LOL
>
> WD40
>
> > The iPod is really "killed" this time!
>
> I accept your grim assessment of the situation.
LOL
Alan Baker
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:54 am, Snit <C...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> > "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> stated in post
> > 1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com on 9/27/07 8:55 AM:
> >
> >
> >
> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
> >
> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
> >
> > > That can't be good for Apple...
> >
> > Another example of MS trying to copy Apple with their famous iPod Halo
> > Effect. :)
>
> Another example of Microsoft succeeding where Apple failed.
You're claiming that this is going to make the Zune succeed?
Alan Baker
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 8:22 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> > In article <CoWdncIqpJKPeGHbnZ2dnUVZ_gidn...@comcast.com>,
> >
> > "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> > > How does DX10 games run on your Mac? LOL@ Mactards
> > > >> >> > How well do XBox games run on Vista?
> > > >> >> Great! Thanks for asking.
> >
> > > >> > Next question: How well does Vista run... period? ;)
> >
> > > >> Great! Thanks for asking.
> >
> > > > Didn't you say that you only pay lip-service to Vista and still run
> > > > Windows XP?
> >
> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
> >
> > When did you buy Vista?
>
> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
>
> > You said ten days ago that you still use
> > Windows XP
>
> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
The same way that you claiming your "one PC" outperforms Macs at
setiathome: you're willing to lie.
>
> > Support for my claim, as usual:
> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
> > 2ea>
> >
> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
>
> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
Care to explain why you didn't say "I am using Vista" and instead told
us how XP was "still [doing] the job" when directly challenged that you
weren't using Vista?
Sandman
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > > I see your fear of the Zune has made you reluctant to continue to discuss
> > > the iPod. You'll have to explain your obsessions for yourself, however.
> >
> > Fear of what now? The Zune? What is that now again? A media player?
> > Hmmm...
>
> Your fears are irrational even to yourself.
And known only to you :)
> > > Then why did you ask for Zune versions of them?
> >
> > I was making fun of your question that asked for a game-themed version
> > of the iPod.
>
> Once again you decided acting stupid somehow made fun of something I
> wrote.
Hehe :)
> > > Your fear of the Zune is palpable.
> >
> > Huh? I can't even *buy* a Zune here in Sweden. It's not even on the
> > radar.
>
> You fear its effect on the company you worship.
I'm not the one paying lip service to a game console, media player and
game just because it has a specific company logo on it. That's you.
> > > Your promotion of iPod by using AIDS
> > > reseach as a marketing aid is reprehensible.
> >
> > I rather buy a product red version of the iPod to support aids
> > research than a game version of the zune to support Microsoft.
>
> I'll bet dollars to donuts you didn't buy a red iPod.
Apple doesn't have a red version of the iPod models I buy,
unfortunately. If they did, I would buy it in a heartbeat. The shuffle
and nano isn't anything for me. Still, I would *rather* buy a red
shuffle or nano that support aids research than a Halo zune that only
support Microsoft.
> > > >> > That can't be good for Micrsoft...
> >
> > > >> > Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
> >
> > > >> How would you know?
> >
> > > > How I would know that the Zune never sold well?
> >
> > > Is that what you wrote above?
> >
> > I interpreted your "That can't be good" as not being good for iPod
> > sales.
>
> We're talking about what you wrote, not what I wrote.
What I wrote was in direct relation to my interpretation of what you
wrote.
> > > Or did you write "it's never been good?"
> >
> > Zune sales, that is.
>
> You need remedial writing courses.
Thanks for the advice.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
> >
> > When did you buy Vista?
>
> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
Support?
> > You said ten days ago that you still use
> > Windows XP
>
> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
Why would you buy Vista and not use it?
> > Support for my claim, as usual:
> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
> > 2ea>
> >
> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
>
> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
I see you choose not to treat me the way I treat you. I.e. you didn't
support your claims as I did mine.
--
Sandman[.net]
Tim Adams
Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> In article <1190991590.1...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The little voice inside your head said that.
> > >
> > > When did you buy Vista?
> >
> > Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
>
> Support?
>
> > > You said ten days ago that you still use
> > > Windows XP
> >
> > How does that exclude me from having Vista?
>
> Why would you buy Vista and not use it?
He found out what a POS it is so went back to XP. :-)
>
> > > Support for my claim, as usual:
> > > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
> > > 2ea>
> > >
> > > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
> > > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
> >
> > No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
>
> I see you choose not to treat me the way I treat you. I.e. you didn't
> support your claims as I did mine.
--
regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm
Edwin
You prefer the PC. Good for you.
Edwin
"Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-2AA51...@news.telus.net...
> In article <1190991590.1...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 28, 8:22 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
>> > In article <CoWdncIqpJKPeGHbnZ2dnUVZ_gidn...@comcast.com>,
>> >
>> > "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > How does DX10 games run on your Mac? LOL@ Mactards
>> > > >> >> > How well do XBox games run on Vista?
>> > > >> >> Great! Thanks for asking.
>> >
>> > > >> > Next question: How well does Vista run... period? ;)
>> >
>> > > >> Great! Thanks for asking.
>> >
>> > > > Didn't you say that you only pay lip-service to Vista and still run
>> > > > Windows XP?
>> >
>> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
>> >
>> > When did you buy Vista?
>>
>> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
>>
>> > You said ten days ago that you still use
>> > Windows XP
>>
>> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
>
> The same way that you claiming your "one PC" outperforms Macs at
> setiathome: you're willing to lie.
You just proved you're a liar.
>>
>> > Support for my claim, as usual:
>> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
>> > 2ea>
>> >
>> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
>> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
>>
>> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
>
> Care to explain why you didn't say "I am using Vista" and instead told
> us how XP was "still [doing] the job" when directly challenged that you
> weren't using Vista?
No, I don't care to do your thinking for you.
Edwin
> In article <1190991590.1...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
>> >
>> > When did you buy Vista?
>>
>> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
>
> Support?
Go take a flying leap.
>> > You said ten days ago that you still use
>> > Windows XP
>>
>> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
>
> Why would you buy Vista and not use it?
Who says I'm not using it?
>> > Support for my claim, as usual:
>> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
>> > 2ea>
>> >
>> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
>> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
>>
>> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
>
> I see you choose not to treat me the way I treat you. I.e. you didn't
> support your claims as I did mine.
You're lying again.
Snit
sOKdnUoojMczJGDb...@comcast.com on 9/28/07 7:33 PM:
>
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> news:mr-32BB21.14...@News.Individual.NET...
>> In article <FLCdndH-paE6RWHb...@comcast.com>,
>> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of
>>>>> the
>>>>> PC
>>>>> industry by 2010.
>>>>
>>>> PC, only good for games.
>>>
>>> Crush the Mac is my favorite PC game.
>>
>> Cool. I prefer Crysis, Enemy Territory and Bioshock myself.
>
> You prefer the PC. Good for you.
Windows is a better gaming platform than is OS X. OK.
--
Dear Aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1123221217782777472
Edwin
> In article <1190991833.9...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> > > I see your fear of the Zune has made you reluctant to continue to
>> > > discuss
>> > > the iPod. You'll have to explain your obsessions for yourself,
>> > > however.
>> >
>> > Fear of what now? The Zune? What is that now again? A media player?
>> > Hmmm...
>>
>> Your fears are irrational even to yourself.
>
> And known only to you :)
Not after you made a worldwide public spectacle of them on Usenet.
>> > > Then why did you ask for Zune versions of them?
>> >
>> > I was making fun of your question that asked for a game-themed version
>> > of the iPod.
>>
>> Once again you decided acting stupid somehow made fun of something I
>> wrote.
>
> Hehe :)
See what I mean?
>> > > Your fear of the Zune is palpable.
>> >
>> > Huh? I can't even *buy* a Zune here in Sweden. It's not even on the
>> > radar.
>>
>> You fear its effect on the company you worship.
>
> I'm not the one paying lip service to a game console, media player and
> game just because it has a specific company logo on it. That's you.
You're lying again.
>> > > Your promotion of iPod by using AIDS
>> > > reseach as a marketing aid is reprehensible.
>> >
>> > I rather buy a product red version of the iPod to support aids
>> > research than a game version of the zune to support Microsoft.
>>
>> I'll bet dollars to donuts you didn't buy a red iPod.
>
> Apple doesn't have a red version of the iPod models I buy,
Whoosh, nothing but net! I called it big time.
> unfortunately. If they did, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Here you are going on about supporting AIDS research by purchasing a red
iPod, when you didn't buy one!
>The shuffle
> and nano isn't anything for me. Still, I would *rather* buy a red
> shuffle or nano that support aids research than a Halo zune that only
> support Microsoft.
Somehow what you *wish* is better than people buying a Halo Zune. This is
beyond even your usual level of mind-numbing stupdity.
>> > > >> > That can't be good for Micrsoft...
>> >
>> > > >> > Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
>> >
>> > > >> How would you know?
>> >
>> > > > How I would know that the Zune never sold well?
>> >
>> > > Is that what you wrote above?
>> >
>> > I interpreted your "That can't be good" as not being good for iPod
>> > sales.
>>
>> We're talking about what you wrote, not what I wrote.
>
> What I wrote was in direct relation to my interpretation of what you
> wrote.
You just did your usual poor job of expressing what you meant.
>> > > Or did you write "it's never been good?"
>> >
>> > Zune sales, that is.
>>
>> You need remedial writing courses.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
You ought to take it.
Edwin
> In article <_bOdnSSN0YbTRWHb...@comcast.com>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> >> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>> >> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>> >> > Who cares?
>> >> You do.
>> >
>> > Nope.
>>
>> So you're in this thread because you love to discuss things you don't
>> care
>> about?
>
> Do you care about the things being discussed in the threads you
> participate in?
I see you failed to answer in spite of your hypocrital whining about not
getting answers to your questions. You're the one in a thread you claim
not to care about. It's up to you to answer that question, not divert it
to me.
>> >> > How many Halo 3 Zunes are you going to buy?
>> >
>> >> One for every intelligent post you've made.
>> >
>> > I see you're too embarrassed to give an honest answer to that one.. ;)
>>
>> You're not going to get me to buy any Zunes with replies like that.
>
> So you're just paying lip service. How many Xboxes and Halo 3 copies
> do you own?
How many red iPods do you own? None, and that's after you trying to make
it seem superior to Zune for supporting AIDS research.
>> >> > > That can't be good for Apple...
>> >> > Won't hurt Apple either.
>> >> As long as losing lots of sales doesn't hurt.
>> >
>> > You really think Apple would lose sales by not having a k3wl iPod for
>> > l33t H3 g4m3r d00dZ? Seriously?
>>
>> Not if people are going to buy both a Zune and an iPod. That doesn't
>> seem
>> likely.
>
> Not, they will likely just buy an iPod.
Not if they're Halo fans.
>> > I thought the U2 iPod was stupid. This
>> > is even worse.
>>
>> Yeah, this will take iPod sales away.
>
> *saved yet another explicit claim from Edwin*
>
>> > It also shows how desperate MS is to increase zune sales.
>>
>> You think a tie-in to a successful product is a sign of "desperation?"
>
> Well, when the product doesn't sell at all... :)
Which product is that?
>> You must have came by that opinion by watching Apple announce the iMac as
>> being from "the company that brought you the iPod."
--
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
> >> >
> >> > When did you buy Vista?
> >>
> >> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
> >
> > Support?
>
> Go take a flying leap.
That's Edwins idea of support allright.
> >> > You said ten days ago that you still use
> >> > Windows XP
> >>
> >> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
> >
> > Why would you buy Vista and not use it?
>
> Who says I'm not using it?
You.
> >> > Support for my claim, as usual:
> >> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
> >> > 2ea>
> >> >
> >> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
> >> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
> >>
> >> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
> >
> > I see you choose not to treat me the way I treat you. I.e. you didn't
> > support your claims as I did mine.
>
> You're lying again.
Thanks for agreeing.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> news:mr-32BB21.14...@News.Individual.NET...
> > In article <FLCdndH-paE6RWHb...@comcast.com>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of
> >> >> the
> >> >> PC
> >> >> industry by 2010.
> >> >
> >> > PC, only good for games.
> >>
> >> Crush the Mac is my favorite PC game.
> >
> > Cool. I prefer Crysis, Enemy Territory and Bioshock myself.
>
> You prefer the PC. Good for you.
When gaming, of course. It's all its good for.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> So you're in this thread because you love to discuss things you don't
> >> care
> >> about?
> >
> > Do you care about the things being discussed in the threads you
> > participate in?
>
> I see you failed to answer in spite of your hypocrital whining about not
> getting answers to your questions.
You don't get to demand things form me that you do not supply
yourself. Start answering my questions and I'll answer yours.
> You're the one in a thread you claim
> not to care about.
You're lying again. I've never stated that I don't care about this
thread.
> It's up to you to answer that question, not divert it
> to me.
I'm exposing, as usual, your hypocrisy.
> >> You're not going to get me to buy any Zunes with replies like that.
> >
> > So you're just paying lip service. How many Xboxes and Halo 3 copies
> > do you own?
>
> How many red iPods do you own? None, and that's after you trying to make
> it seem superior to Zune for supporting AIDS research.
It's commercial motives are most certainly superior to a Halo zune,
plus - I'm not the one claiming one has to own every product one talks
about - that's you. I'm just exposing, as usual, your hypocrisy.
> >> Not if people are going to buy both a Zune and an iPod. That doesn't
> >> seem
> >> likely.
> >
> > Not, they will likely just buy an iPod.
>
> Not if they're Halo fans.
Yeah, even if they're Halo fans. At least statistically.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > And known only to you :)
>
> Not after you made a worldwide public spectacle of them on Usenet.
Seen only by you. :)
> >> Once again you decided acting stupid somehow made fun of something I
> >> wrote.
> >
> > Hehe :)
>
> See what I mean?
No, I'm busy watching your act :)
> >> You fear its effect on the company you worship.
> >
> > I'm not the one paying lip service to a game console, media player and
> > game just because it has a specific company logo on it. That's you.
>
> You're lying again.
Haha, see what I mean?
> >> I'll bet dollars to donuts you didn't buy a red iPod.
> >
> > Apple doesn't have a red version of the iPod models I buy,
>
> Whoosh, nothing but net! I called it big time.
"nothing but net"? I'm not familiar with that expression.
Ok, I'll call you on it. Will you buy an Xbox 360 and Halo 3 if I buy
a red iPod? I would love to do it, but I won't do it just to lived up
things you demand from others but won't do yourself. You have show
receipts for it, naturally. If you don't, you don't get to whine about
what I don't buy, since you can't demand of others what you don't do
yourself.
> > unfortunately. If they did, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
>
> Here you are going on about supporting AIDS research by purchasing a red
> iPod, when you didn't buy one!
I am going on about the red iPod being a morally better product than
the one you're advocating (and not buying).
> > The shuffle
> > and nano isn't anything for me. Still, I would *rather* buy a red
> > shuffle or nano that support aids research than a Halo zune that only
> > support Microsoft.
>
> Somehow what you *wish* is better than people buying a Halo Zune. This is
> beyond even your usual level of mind-numbing stupdity.
*yawn*
> >> We're talking about what you wrote, not what I wrote.
> >
> > What I wrote was in direct relation to my interpretation of what you
> > wrote.
>
> You just did your usual poor job of expressing what you meant.
I'm fine with not being understood by you.
> >> You need remedial writing courses.
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
>
> You ought to take it.
Nah, you saying that means I write fine.
--
Sandman[.net]
nospamatall
> In article <1190922055.2...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 27, 11:57 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
>>> In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>>
>>> Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>>>> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>>> none?
>
> Fine, thanks.
>
>>> That can't be good for Micrsoft...
>>>
>>> Oh wait, this is Zune, it's never been good. :-D
>>>
>>> Sandman[.net]
>
Just came across this thread. Is someone really saying there is
something special about a zune loaded with halo adverts?
Andy
Sandman
wrote:
Yeah, apparently it's supposed to be a real threat to the iPod...
--
Sandman[.net]
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-2AA51...@news.telus.net...
> > In article <1190991590.1...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> > Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sep 28, 8:22 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> >> > In article <CoWdncIqpJKPeGHbnZ2dnUVZ_gidn...@comcast.com>,
> >> >
> >> > "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > How does DX10 games run on your Mac? LOL@ Mactards
> >> > > >> >> > How well do XBox games run on Vista?
> >> > > >> >> Great! Thanks for asking.
> >> >
> >> > > >> > Next question: How well does Vista run... period? ;)
> >> >
> >> > > >> Great! Thanks for asking.
> >> >
> >> > > > Didn't you say that you only pay lip-service to Vista and still run
> >> > > > Windows XP?
> >> >
> >> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
> >> >
> >> > When did you buy Vista?
> >>
> >> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
> >>
> >> > You said ten days ago that you still use
> >> > Windows XP
> >>
> >> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
> >
> > The same way that you claiming your "one PC" outperforms Macs at
> > setiathome: you're willing to lie.
>
> You just proved you're a liar.
We know you're willing to lie, Edwin. You've admitted you've lied...
...and then withdrawn the admission...
...and then denied making it...
...and then been forced to re-admit it.
<g>
>
> >>
> >> > Support for my claim, as usual:
> >> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
> >> > 2ea>
> >> >
> >> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
> >> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
> >>
> >> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
> >
> > Care to explain why you didn't say "I am using Vista" and instead told
> > us how XP was "still [doing] the job" when directly challenged that you
> > weren't using Vista?
>
> No, I don't care to do your thinking for you.
LOL
Edwin
> In article <1190921752....@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 27, 11:46 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>> >
>> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>> >
>> > > That can't be good for Apple...
>> >
>> > How could Apple put out a product that used Microsoft's intellectual
>> > property in that manner?
>>
>> They can't. That's what's not good for them. Duh!
>
> So, you're claiming that this will have a material effect on iPod vs
> Zune sales figures?
Are you really stupid enough to need me to answer that question?
Edwin
> In article <1190922637.9...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 27, 11:54 am, Snit <C...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> > "Edwin" <thorn...@juno.com> stated in post
>> > 1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com on 9/27/07 8:55
>> > AM:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>> >
>> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>> >
>> > > That can't be good for Apple...
>> >
>> > Another example of MS trying to copy Apple with their famous iPod Halo
>> > Effect. :)
>>
>> Another example of Microsoft succeeding where Apple failed.
>
> You're claiming that this is going to make the Zune succeed?
The Zune is already a success. This will make it more successful.
Edwin
You just proved you're a liar... again!
> <g>
<BG>
>>
>> >>
>> >> > Support for my claim, as usual:
>> >> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
>> >> > 2ea>
>> >> >
>> >> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
>> >> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
>> >>
>> >> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
>> >
>> > Care to explain why you didn't say "I am using Vista" and instead told
>> > us how XP was "still [doing] the job" when directly challenged that you
>> > weren't using Vista?
>>
>> No, I don't care to do your thinking for you.
>
> LOL
WD40
Edwin
> In article <wu-dnYmpOLzgJ2Db...@comcast.com>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> >> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
>> >> >
>> >> > When did you buy Vista?
>> >>
>> >> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
>> >
>> > Support?
>>
>> Go take a flying leap.
>
> That's Edwins idea of support allright.
No, that's my idea of telling a jackass I don't have to support posts he
read himself.
>> >> > You said ten days ago that you still use
>> >> > Windows XP
>> >>
>> >> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
>> >
>> > Why would you buy Vista and not use it?
>>
>> Who says I'm not using it?
>
> You.
Quote me saying I don't use Vista.
>> >> > Support for my claim, as usual:
>> >> > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fd352d3186c30
>> >> > 2ea>
>> >> >
>> >> > So unless you bought Vista in the last ten days, you're only paying
>> >> > lip service. Did you buy Vista in the last ten days?
>> >>
>> >> No, I bought it months ago, and told you so then, you goofy Swede.
>> >
>> > I see you choose not to treat me the way I treat you. I.e. you didn't
>> > support your claims as I did mine.
>>
>> You're lying again.
>
> Thanks for agreeing.
I agreed that you're a liar.
fibercut
Edwin us smoking something if he feels that statement is true. :-)
Edwin
"nospamatall" <nospa...@iol.ie> wrote in message
news:fdlb12$e1m$1...@aioe.org...
Nobody I know of. Did you bother to use the link above?
Edwin
> In article <QcqdnUxtjM7lIWDb...@comcast.com>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> > And known only to you :)
>>
>> Not after you made a worldwide public spectacle of them on Usenet.
>
> Seen only by you. :)
>
>> >> Once again you decided acting stupid somehow made fun of something I
>> >> wrote.
>> >
>> > Hehe :)
>>
>> See what I mean?
>
> No, I'm busy watching your act :)
There you go again.
>> >> You fear its effect on the company you worship.
>> >
>> > I'm not the one paying lip service to a game console, media player and
>> > game just because it has a specific company logo on it. That's you.
>>
>> You're lying again.
>
> Haha, see what I mean?
Yes, you're lying again.
>> >> I'll bet dollars to donuts you didn't buy a red iPod.
>> >
>> > Apple doesn't have a red version of the iPod models I buy,
>>
>> Whoosh, nothing but net! I called it big time.
>
> "nothing but net"? I'm not familiar with that expression.
Of course you aren't.
> Ok, I'll call you on it. Will you buy an Xbox 360 and Halo 3 if I buy
> a red iPod? I would love to do it, but I won't do it just to lived up
> things you demand from others but won't do yourself. You have show
> receipts for it, naturally. If you don't, you don't get to whine about
> what I don't buy, since you can't demand of others what you don't do
> yourself.
I'll assume the above rant was made just to underscore how much of a
hypocrital idiot you are.
>> > unfortunately. If they did, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
>>
>> Here you are going on about supporting AIDS research by purchasing a red
>> iPod, when you didn't buy one!
>
> I am going on about the red iPod being a morally better product than
> the one you're advocating (and not buying).
You're using that as a selling advantage for a product you didn't buy.
You're nothing short of reprehensible, first to use AIDS as a marketing
tool, and then to have used it that way for a product you didn't even buy.
That makes you doubly disgusting.
>> > The shuffle
>> > and nano isn't anything for me. Still, I would *rather* buy a red
>> > shuffle or nano that support aids research than a Halo zune that only
>> > support Microsoft.
>>
>> Somehow what you *wish* is better than people buying a Halo Zune. This
>> is
>> beyond even your usual level of mind-numbing stupdity.
>
> *yawn*
>
>> >> We're talking about what you wrote, not what I wrote.
>> >
>> > What I wrote was in direct relation to my interpretation of what you
>> > wrote.
>>
>> You just did your usual poor job of expressing what you meant.
>
> I'm fine with not being understood by you.
Nobody else understood you either. No normal person did, anyway.
>> >> You need remedial writing courses.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the advice.
>>
>> You ought to take it.
>
> Nah, you saying that means I write fine.
Sure thing, Loopy.
Are you still wishing you could buy a red iPod? You wishing to buy one of
those is better than somebody buying a Halo 3 Zune, right? You're donating
your imaginary money to AIDS research with every red iPod you wish you could
buy, but don't. That makes you so much better than Zune buyers (in your
own mind).
Edwin
> In article <1190922274....@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 27, 12:04 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> >
>> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>> >
>> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>> >
>> > > That can't be good for Apple...
>> >
>>
>> I'm glad you agree.
>>
>> > The iPod is barely holding on...
>>
>> That's an extreme view, but I won't argue with you.
>>
>> > to 13 of the top 20 spots in Amazon.com's Bestsellers list in Portable
>> > Audio & Video.
>>
>> For now. Tomorrow is another day.
>
> So it is!
LOL
> Now, are you bold enough to turn that into an actual prediction?
LOL
>>
>> > LOL
>>
>> WD40
>>
>> > The iPod is really "killed" this time!
>>
>> I accept your grim assessment of the situation.
>
> LOL
WD40
Edwin
> In article <k4-dnePDXOHsIGDb...@comcast.com>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> >> So you're in this thread because you love to discuss things you don't
>> >> care
>> >> about?
>> >
>> > Do you care about the things being discussed in the threads you
>> > participate in?
>>
>> I see you failed to answer in spite of your hypocrital whining about not
>> getting answers to your questions.
>
> You don't get to demand things form me that you do not supply
> yourself. Start answering my questions and I'll answer yours.
>
>> You're the one in a thread you claim
>> not to care about.
>
> You're lying again. I've never stated that I don't care about this
> thread.
I'm not lying. You mangled the attributions in this thread in a way that
made C Lund's answers look like yours.
>> It's up to you to answer that question, not divert it
>> to me.
>
> I'm exposing, as usual, your hypocrisy.
IOW, you're lying, as usual.
>> >> You're not going to get me to buy any Zunes with replies like that.
>> >
>> > So you're just paying lip service. How many Xboxes and Halo 3 copies
>> > do you own?
>>
>> How many red iPods do you own? None, and that's after you trying to make
>> it seem superior to Zune for supporting AIDS research.
>
> It's commercial motives are most certainly superior to a Halo zune,
> plus -
Using charity as a marketing tool is not "superior."
> I'm not the one claiming one has to own every product one talks
> about -
You don't just talk about them, you defend and advocate them.
> that's you. I'm just exposing, as usual, your hypocrisy.
You only succeded in exposing your own stupidity and hypocrisy.
>> >> Not if people are going to buy both a Zune and an iPod. That
>> >> doesn't
>> >> seem
>> >> likely.
>> >
>> > Not, they will likely just buy an iPod.
>>
>> Not if they're Halo fans.
>
> Yeah, even if they're Halo fans. At least statistically.
Nope. Statistically Zune already took 11% of the market away from iPod even
without the Halo 3 player.
Edwin
"fibercut" <fibe...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:2007093007053516807-fibercut@nospamcom...
"Retail research firm NPD Group report that for December, Zune represented
10.2% of all units sold. These numbers are for the 30Gb Hard-disk based MP3
players only. The Zune market share is well below if you look at the MP3
market as one category. For 45 days of sales since the introduction of the
Zune, this is no bad at all. That growth is also in line with Microsoft's
expectations of exceeding 1 million units in sales by June 30."
http://www.cliczune.com/2007/01/zune_10_market_.html
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Ok, I'll call you on it. Will you buy an Xbox 360 and Halo 3 if I buy
> > a red iPod? I would love to do it, but I won't do it just to lived up
> > things you demand from others but won't do yourself. You have show
> > receipts for it, naturally. If you don't, you don't get to whine about
> > what I don't buy, since you can't demand of others what you don't do
> > yourself.
>
> I'll assume the above rant was made just to underscore how much of a
> hypocrital idiot you are.
I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. In fact, I have done more
than you with regards to Halo 3:
http://sandman.net/files/halo1.jpg
http://sandman.net/files/halo2.jpg
If you buy a Xbox 360, Halo3 and the Halo edition of the Zune, I'll
buy one of every product read products Apple has (nano and shuffle)
without a doubt.
Tell you what, the zune seems to suck, so I'm ok with you just buying
a Xbox 360 and Halo 3. There are probably lots of package deals to be
find in your town that has both.
Post receipts.
> >> Here you are going on about supporting AIDS research by purchasing a red
> >> iPod, when you didn't buy one!
> >
> > I am going on about the red iPod being a morally better product than
> > the one you're advocating (and not buying).
>
> You're using that as a selling advantage for a product you didn't buy.
As opposed to Xbox 360, Helo 3 and the Halo Zune you are talking about
but haven't bought?
> You're nothing short of reprehensible, first to use AIDS as a marketing
> tool, and then to have used it that way for a product you didn't even buy.
> That makes you doubly disgusting.
Buying product red products are still morally better than
Halo-editions of Zune.
> >> You just did your usual poor job of expressing what you meant.
> >
> > I'm fine with not being understood by you.
>
> Nobody else understood you either. No normal person did, anyway.
I'm glad you think so. :)
> >> >> You need remedial writing courses.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the advice.
> >>
> >> You ought to take it.
> >
> > Nah, you saying that means I write fine.
>
> Sure thing, Loopy.
>
> Are you still wishing you could buy a red iPod?
Could? Huh?
> You wishing to buy one of
> those is better than somebody buying a Halo 3 Zune, right?
Actually, yes. Wishing to buy things to promote AIDS research is a lot
*better* than buying products that does not. Actually buying a product
red would be even better, but I'm still ahead morally.
> You're donating
> your imaginary money to AIDS research with every red iPod you wish you could
> buy, but don't. That makes you so much better than Zune buyers (in your
> own mind).
I'll buy one of each the second you show you're not just paying lip
service to Microsoft.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> > Not, they will likely just buy an iPod.
> >>
> >> Not if they're Halo fans.
> >
> > Yeah, even if they're Halo fans. At least statistically.
>
> Nope. Statistically Zune already took 11% of the market away from iPod even
> without the Halo 3 player.
I.e. most are iPod owners. Thanks for agreeing.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> news:mr-0A468C.07...@News.Individual.NET...
> > In article <wu-dnYmpOLzgJ2Db...@comcast.com>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> > > The little voice inside your head said that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When did you buy Vista?
> >> >>
> >> >> Months ago. I posted here from Vista.
> >> >
> >> > Support?
> >>
> >> Go take a flying leap.
> >
> > That's Edwins idea of support allright.
>
> No, that's my idea of telling a jackass I don't have to support posts he
> read himself.
>
> >> >> > You said ten days ago that you still use
> >> >> > Windows XP
> >> >>
> >> >> How does that exclude me from having Vista?
> >> >
> >> > Why would you buy Vista and not use it?
> >>
> >> Who says I'm not using it?
> >
> > You.
>
> Quote me saying I don't use Vista.
Read the thread.
--
Sandman[.net]
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Edwin, but by your own standards, you must agree that no Zunes have been
sold after December of last year unless you can produce some more recent
sales figures....
kdt
>> "Retail research firm NPD Group report that for December, Zune
>> represented
>> 10.2% of all units sold. These numbers are for the 30Gb Hard-disk based
>> MP3
>> players only. The Zune market share is well below if you look at the MP3
>> market as one category. For 45 days of sales since the introduction of
>> the
>> Zune, this is no bad at all. That growth is also in line with Microsoft's
>> expectations of exceeding 1 million units in sales by June 30."
>>
>> http://www.cliczune.com/2007/01/zune_10_market_.html
>
> Edwin, but by your own standards, you must agree that no Zunes have been
> sold after December of last year unless you can produce some more recent
> sales figures....
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=MSFT:US&sid=a4mxDq8JK89U
" Microsoft Corp.'s Zune device dropped to fifth place from second in the
U.S. market for digital media players in its second week in stores, market
researcher NPD Group Inc. said.
Zune captured 2.1 percent of the market in the week ended Nov. 25, said
Stephen Baker, an analyst at Port Washington, New York-based NPD, in an
interview today. Baker said Apple Computer Inc.'s iPod remained the leader,
with 39.4 percent that week, based on units sold.
Zune's market share declined as SanDisk Corp. boosted sales with a 50
percent price cut on its media players, taking a 39.3 percent share and
knocking Microsoft from the No. 2 spot it occupied in its first week in the
market. Redmond, Washington- based Microsoft sold about the same number of
units as the previous week, failing to keep pace with rising holiday sales.
``Zune did OK in the first week and OK in the second week, but they haven't
had any major impact on Apple,'' Baker said. Apple held 75 percent of the
U.S. media player market for the nine months through September, according to
NPD. "
This was just in December of last year....it has held steady at 2.9% since
then.
OldSage
<thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> The Zune is already a success. This will make it more successful.
Are you really stupid enough to make such a risible assertion?
David Fritzinger
Of course, now Zune would have nearly 100% of the 30 GB hard disk MP3
players, since the smallest hard disk based iPod is 80 GB.
8^)
--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI
Alan Baker
> > Yeah, even if they're Halo fans. At least statistically.
>
> Nope. Statistically Zune already took 11% of the market away from iPod even
> without the Halo 3 player.
For one data point in December 2006.
According to your standards, unless you can show up-to-date figures,
there have been no Zune sales since then.
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
Are you really stupid enough to believe that a Halo-branded Zune is
going to help Zune sales much?
MuahMan
> In article <FLCdndH-paE6RWHb...@comcast.com>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of
>> >> the
>> >> PC
>> >> industry by 2010.
>> >
>> > PC, only good for games.
>>
>> Crush the Mac is my favorite PC game.
>
> Cool. I prefer Crysis, Enemy Territory and Bioshock myself.
>
>
How do they run on your Mac? LOL
I can go right from Autocad to Crysis DX10. Can you do that on your Mac
that cost 10X as much?
Sandman
"MuahMan" <mua...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> wrote in message
> news:mr-32BB21.14...@News.Individual.NET...
> > In article <FLCdndH-paE6RWHb...@comcast.com>,
> > "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of
> >> >> the
> >> >> PC
> >> >> industry by 2010.
> >> >
> >> > PC, only good for games.
> >>
> >> Crush the Mac is my favorite PC game.
> >
> > Cool. I prefer Crysis, Enemy Territory and Bioshock myself.
> >
> >
>
>
> How do they run on your Mac?
Just fine, but I prefer to run them on my high-end gaming PC.
> I can go right from Autocad to Crysis DX10. Can you do that on your Mac
> that cost 10X as much?
I'll tell you if I ever get a Mac that cost 10X as much.
--
Sandman[.net]
Edwin
> In article <GuWdnYrgC-Jk4GLb...@comcast.com>,
> "Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alang...@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-A23B6...@news.telus.net...
>> > In article <1190921752....@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
>> > Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sep 27, 11:46 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>> >> > In article <1190908512.934725.176...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> >
>> >> > Edwin <thorn...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >> > >http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>> >> >
>> >> > > That can't be good for Apple...
>> >> >
>> >> > How could Apple put out a product that used Microsoft's intellectual
>> >> > property in that manner?
>> >>
>> >> They can't. That's what's not good for them. Duh!
>> >
>> > So, you're claiming that this will have a material effect on iPod vs
>> > Zune sales figures?
>>
>> Are you really stupid enough to need me to answer that question?
>
> Are you really stupid enough to believe that a Halo-branded Zune is
> going to help Zune sales much?
You have that backwards. It's stupid to think Halo 3 branding won't sell
more Zunes.
Maybe someday you'll finally get tired of going through your life
ass-backwards.
Alan Baker
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
We all look forward to your references showing the spike in Zune sales
because of it...
>
> Maybe someday you'll finally get tired of going through your life
> ass-backwards.
LOL
kdt
"Edwin" <thor...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:zfidnRAX352vf5ra...@comcast.com...
> You have that backwards. It's stupid to think Halo 3 branding won't sell
> more Zunes.
Interesting...seeing that none of the new Zunes are "Halo branded". So are
people going to buy old Zunes just because of the Halo edition? Even if
every single XBox 360 owner bought a Zune --which isn't going to happen--
that's only 11.6 million sales. However the Zune isn't even for sale
outside of the US.
Mitch
Lund <cl...@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote:
> > Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
> Who cares? Why should there be one?
It is simply stunning that anyone thinks that is an advantage to the
buyer -- and more so that he also thinks it is necessary for competing
devices to have the same non-feature just because the first company
does.
Let me ask, Edwin -- where is the (red) Zune?
Does Microsoft have a charity agenda like Apple?
Not Gates, who uses philanthropy like a publicity bludgeon, but
Microsoft and their customers.
Mitch
wrote:
> Just came across this thread. Is someone really saying there is
> something special about a zune loaded with halo adverts?
Yeah -- and even more, he implies that offering it is such a big
advantage to buyers that Apple needs to offer the same thing. Not just
a similar promotional gimmick, but specifically a Halo 3 promotion.
And he's trying to imply that it really is a better thing, and claiming
he will buy them. He even said he'd buy many of them. (Apparently,
specifically because someone put a Halo sticker and image on them.)
This is a guy who insists people saying positive things about Macs are
idiots with no life and no logic or reason.
Tim Murray
>
> http://www.zune.net/en-us/meetzune/halo/default.htm
>
> Where's the Halo edition of iPod? What? There is none?
>
>
How has that proven so far, Edwin?
Tim Murray
> Mac OS X, only still made for iTunes. Apple to get completely out of
> the PC industry by 2010.
How is that prediction coming along, MuahMan?
Edwin
"Tim Murray" <no-...@thankyou.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C767DF1E...@nntp.charter.net...
I don't think sales of Halo edition Zunes helped the iPod or Apple at all.
Perhaps you feel differently for some bizarre reason.