I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
a...@best.com wrote: > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
Martin Atkinson-Barr <mc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >> I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need >> to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live >> with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. >> Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for >> internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. >> Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? >> I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one >> ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
> Why not get the best - an Athlon.
I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and customer service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then? Anyway, between the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM and P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM, which one would give better performance for scanning and graphic editing like photoshop?
Get a PIII450/500....its not cutting edge but is at a great price. RDRAM isn't here yet, the technology needs work! Athlon is a good chip, but the Coppermine is matching and beating them at the same clock. Sorry AMD, maybe the next round!
Martin Atkinson-Barr <mc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need > > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? > > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
The extra RAM will greatly help for imaging and editing, more than the 33mhz boost in the bus speed ( 100 to 133 ). Internet bottlenecks at the modem so any power increase beyond a 166mhz Pentium is pointless, for 56K modems at least, xDSL or Cable is a different story. DVD would benefit from the 133mhz bus but won't suffer at the 100mhz bus. My suggestion would be to actually get 128M RAM however you choose.
a...@best.com wrote: > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
<a...@best.com> wrote in message news:3823608a$0$239@nntp1.ba.best.com... > I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really > care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and customer > service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then?
Compaq aren't bad, and have Athlons in their Presario range.
For photoshop, memory is absolutely the most important thing to have: get the 128M SDRAM box, and I suggest you ask Dell to put an extra 128M in it.
> Get a PIII450/500....its not cutting edge but is at a great price. RDRAM > isn't here yet, the technology needs work! > Athlon is a good chip, but the Coppermine is matching and beating them at > the same clock. Sorry AMD, maybe the next round!
You can buy an Athlon today. Where is Coppermine ? It doesn't matter what the mythical performance is if you can't get the product (Merced, Merced ? Where is Merced ?).
> > > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I > need > > > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > > > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > > > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > > > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > > > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB > RDRAM? > > > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > > > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
> Martin Atkinson-Barr <mc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >> I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need > >> to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > >> with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > >> Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > >> internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > >> Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? > >> I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > >> ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
> > Why not get the best - an Athlon.
> I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really > care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and customer > service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then? Anyway, between > the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM and P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM, which one would > give better performance for scanning and graphic editing like photoshop?
My experience with Dell's tech support was more like 1-800-fix-it-yourself. They suck.
As for Athlons, I believe Compaq sells a machine based on them (and if you were going to buy a Dell, Compaq isn't much of a stretch).
: > : > I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really : > care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and customer : > service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then? Anyway, between : > the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM and P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM, which one would : > give better performance for scanning and graphic editing like photoshop?
: My experience with Dell's tech support was more like : 1-800-fix-it-yourself. : They suck.
: As for Athlons, I believe Compaq sells a machine based on them (and if : you were going to buy a Dell, Compaq isn't much of a stretch).
Dell seems to be selling a 700 MHz P III box, that has to be a Coppermine. The question is, what the delivery schedule look like.
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> > Martin Atkinson-Barr <mc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > >> I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need > > >> to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > > >> with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > > >> Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > > >> internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > > >> Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? > > >> I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > > >> ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
> > > Why not get the best - an Athlon.
> > I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really > > care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and customer > > service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then? Anyway, between > > the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM and P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM, which one would > > give better performance for scanning and graphic editing like photoshop?
> My experience with Dell's tech support was more like > 1-800-fix-it-yourself. > They suck.
> As for Athlons, I believe Compaq sells a machine based on them (and if > you > were going to buy a Dell, Compaq isn't much of a stretch).
> > Get a PIII450/500....its not cutting edge but is at a great price. RDRAM > > isn't here yet, the technology needs work! > > Athlon is a good chip, but the Coppermine is matching and beating them at > > the same clock. Sorry AMD, maybe the next round!
> You can buy an Athlon today. Where is Coppermine ? It doesn't matter > what the mythical performance is if you can't get the product > (Merced, Merced ? Where is Merced ?).
> > > > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I > > need > > > > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > > > > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > > > > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > > > > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > > > > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB > > RDRAM? > > > > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > > > > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
a...@best.com wrote: > I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really > care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and customer > service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then? Anyway, between > the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM and P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM, which one would > give better performance for scanning and graphic editing like photoshop?
Unless you are editing really small Photoshop pictures, go for the one with 128Mbyte SDRAM. Large amounts of RAM are very important for Photoshop, overshadowing everything else in my experience.
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> Compaq????? please tell me your joking. > Anyone who buys those pre-built computers should be shot.
Talk about taking something out of context. Maybe next time you'll read the posts you're replying to instead of spouting off. Not everyone is Joe computer builder. For those people you have Dell, Compaq, Micron, etc. If you're going to plunk down green for a Dell, a Compaq isn't much different, which was my point.
> > > Martin Atkinson-Barr <mc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > > >> I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I > need > > > >> to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can > live > > > >> with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > > > >> Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > > > >> internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD > movies. > > > >> Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB > RDRAM? > > > >> I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need > one > > > >> ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better > performance?
> > > > Why not get the best - an Athlon.
> > > I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really > > > care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and > customer > > > service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then? Anyway, > between > > > the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM and P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM, which one > would > > > give better performance for scanning and graphic editing like photoshop?
> > My experience with Dell's tech support was more like > > 1-800-fix-it-yourself. > > They suck.
> > As for Athlons, I believe Compaq sells a machine based on them (and if > > you > > were going to buy a Dell, Compaq isn't much of a stretch).
I have 4 Dell machines. The service has always been excellent (when I've needed it). They've lived up to their next business day service both times I've needed it. They've FedEx'd upgrade parts quickly, and their online as well as live telephone tech support has been helpful and reasonably prompt. (Yes, I have had to wait on hold for a long time on several occasions).
They build fine machines at reasonable prices and offer excellent support.
I have a 700E machine on order right now. They are claiming that it will ship on or before 11/24/99.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Math is hard. Let's go to the mall" Barbie David T. Wang <davew...@wam.umd.edu@club_...@Glue.umd.edu> wrote in message news:800c81$c37$1@hecate.umd.edu... : Jeffrey J. Potoff (pot...@chem.umn.edu) wrote:
: : > : : > I plan to order from Dell and they don't have the Athlon. Don't really : : > care who made the processor as long as the system is reliable and customer : : > service is good. Who would you recommend beside Dell then? Anyway, between : : > the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM and P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM, which one would : : > give better performance for scanning and graphic editing like photoshop? : : : My experience with Dell's tech support was more like : : 1-800-fix-it-yourself. : : They suck. : : : As for Athlons, I believe Compaq sells a machine based on them (and if : : you were going to buy a Dell, Compaq isn't much of a stretch). : : Dell seems to be selling a 700 MHz P III box, that has to be a Coppermine. : The question is, what the delivery schedule look like. : : -- : Military Vehicles for rent. http://www.armytrucks.com : Disclaimer: Not affiliated with David Wang Enterprises.
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David Z <b...@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >who cares about merced? >its just aimed at servers, it'll be like $5,000 when it comes out.
The 200MHz PentiumPro cost $860 in December of 1996. It, too, was "just aimed at servers". Eight months later its price had dropped to only $480. Today you can't even buy anything that slow -- the 400 MHz Pentium-II, which uses the same i686 core as the PentiumPro but has larger caches (L1, L2, TLB, et al), a faster external memory bus, and other performance tweaks, goes for a paltry $145.
Either IA64 will tank or it won't. Either way, three years from now the cheap microprocessors we slap into our desktop systems will be much more powerful than Itanium is today, unless consumers suddenly stop demanding faster processors.
Save Your money the best buy is a P-3 450Mhz on a Abit BE6-2 Mainboard, 13Gb Western digital Hard Drive and if your into graphics, I suggest 128Mb RAM, Memorex 6X/32X MultiRead DVD ROM and a Diamond V770 Ultra, Sound Blaster Live
Martin Atkinson-Barr <mc...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I need > > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB RDRAM? > > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
Joe wrote in message <7vvqa1$r5...@news.igs.net>... >Get a PIII450/500....its not cutting edge but is at a great price. RDRAM >isn't here yet, the technology needs work! >Athlon is a good chip, but the Coppermine is matching and beating them at >the same clock. Sorry AMD, maybe the next round!
>> > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I >need >> > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live >> > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. >> > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for >> > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. >> > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB >RDRAM? >> > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one >> > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
DVD-ROM -> waste of money. there are no dvd games out yet, so whats the point? Sound Blaster Live -> why bother with old outdated analog speakers? USB digital speakers are the future.
> Save Your money the best buy is a P-3 450Mhz on a Abit BE6-2 Mainboard, 13Gb > Western digital Hard Drive and if your into graphics, I suggest 128Mb RAM, > Memorex 6X/32X MultiRead DVD ROM and a Diamond V770 Ultra, Sound Blaster > Live
> > > I'm currently using a 486 DX66MHz computer with 16MB of memory and I > need > > > to get a new computer so I can use a USB scanner for my work. I can live > > > with the speed, but not with the memory and hard-drive I using now. > > > Instead of upgrading I will buy a new one. I will use this mostly for > > > internet, graphic editing( photoshop), and maybe play some DVD movies. > > > Should I go for the P3-600E with 128MB SDRAM, or P3-533EB with 64MB > RDRAM? > > > I think both are pretty good upgrade from before and I kind of need one > > > ASAP. Should I buy one now or wait? Which one have better performance?
David Z wrote: > DVD-ROM -> waste of money. there are no dvd games out yet, so whats the > point? > Sound Blaster Live -> why bother with old outdated analog speakers? USB > digital speakers are the future.
Digital is not restricted to USB so this point is irrelevant. DVD is within $20 on the average of a CD-ROM product so this point is also irrelevant.
Sorry but i'm not paying $100 extra for a DVD-ROM drive. $20 extra MY ASS.
And the point IS relevant. USB is a UNIVERSAL standard. Every new computer has this port. Therefore, it is the PERFECT method for connecting speakers. Any other digital connection is some lame and expensive proprietry connection. So buying any kind of sound card is pointless, when you can simply buy USB digital speakers.
> > DVD-ROM -> waste of money. there are no dvd games out yet, so whats the > > point? > > Sound Blaster Live -> why bother with old outdated analog speakers? USB > > digital speakers are the future.
> Digital is not restricted to USB so this point is irrelevant. DVD is within $20 > on the average of a CD-ROM product so this point is also irrelevant.
> Sorry but i'm not paying $100 extra for a DVD-ROM drive. $20 extra MY ASS.
> And the point IS relevant. USB is a UNIVERSAL standard. Every new computer > has this port. Therefore, it is the PERFECT method for connecting speakers. > Any other digital connection is some lame and expensive proprietry > connection. So buying any kind of sound card is pointless, when you can > simply buy USB digital speakers.
Hey do you market USB professionally or something? There are many reasons why USB sound currently sucks. Most importantly, you can only use it with Win9x. Not NT, not Linux, not Beos, not MSDOS, nothing. Also, USB is a bus, and not one with a heck of a lot of bandwith. Better not waste it on audio if you intend to use it for other things. Perfect method? Now it's my time to say MY ASS.
> > > DVD-ROM -> waste of money. there are no dvd games out yet, so whats > the > > > point? > > > Sound Blaster Live -> why bother with old outdated analog speakers? USB > > > digital speakers are the future.
> > Digital is not restricted to USB so this point is irrelevant. DVD is > within $20 > > on the average of a CD-ROM product so this point is also irrelevant.
