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Orson Cart  
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 More options Jan 1, 8:40 pm
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From: "Orson Cart" <ex-pri...@parts.org>
Date: 2 Jan 2012 02:40:27 +0100
Local: Sun, Jan 1 2012 8:40 pm
Subject: Intel's chipset monopoly
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VIA, SiS, ATI and NVIDIA used to make chipsets for FSB CPUs up to
Core 2 and Atom ... but all this ceased when Intel brought out
the Nehalem.
I still wonder why they have not granted permission to others to
mate with their CPUs? Perhaps now they use internal memory controller,
a crappy northbridge will not choke memory bandwidth, and OEMs
might just select the minimum price.
But I really have a feeling they are against NVIDIA most of all.
Why?
AMD seems content for NVIDIA to make stuff, even though NVIDIA
are a rival for their GPU division.


 
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DevilsPGD  
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 More options Jan 2, 4:39 am
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From: DevilsPGD <Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-C...@crazyhat.net>
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:39:50 -0800
Local: Mon, Jan 2 2012 4:39 am
Subject: Re: Intel's chipset monopoly
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In message <4f010b0...@x-privat.org> someone claiming to be "Orson Cart"
<ex-pri...@parts.org> typed:

>VIA, SiS, ATI and NVIDIA used to make chipsets for FSB CPUs up to
>Core 2 and Atom ... but all this ceased when Intel brought out
>the Nehalem.
>I still wonder why they have not granted permission to others to
>mate with their CPUs? Perhaps now they use internal memory controller,
>a crappy northbridge will not choke memory bandwidth, and OEMs
>might just select the minimum price.

If I had to guess, it would be because of what a horrible job VIA, SiS
and nVidia did. But I'm sure being anti-competitive isn't a downside to
Intel either, so it's really a win-win for them.

--
It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to
steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.


 
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Yousuf Khan  
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 More options Jan 3, 11:51 pm
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From: Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:51:06 -0500
Local: Tues, Jan 3 2012 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: Intel's chipset monopoly
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On 01/01/2012 8:40 PM, Orson Cart wrote:

> VIA, SiS, ATI and NVIDIA used to make chipsets for FSB CPUs up to
> Core 2 and Atom ... but all this ceased when Intel brought out
> the Nehalem.
> I still wonder why they have not granted permission to others to
> mate with their CPUs? Perhaps now they use internal memory controller,
> a crappy northbridge will not choke memory bandwidth, and OEMs
> might just select the minimum price.
> But I really have a feeling they are against NVIDIA most of all.
> Why?
> AMD seems content for NVIDIA to make stuff, even though NVIDIA
> are a rival for their GPU division.

AMD is now a monopoly on its own chipsets now too. Nvidia has dropped
out of building AMD chipsets a long time ago.

        Yousuf Khan


 
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Jim  
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 More options Jan 6, 9:58 am
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From: "Jim" <j...@wtf.invalid>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:58:19 -0500
Local: Fri, Jan 6 2012 9:58 am
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"Yousuf Khan" <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:4f03dabc$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
> AMD is now a monopoly on its own chipsets now too. Nvidia has dropped out
> of building AMD chipsets a long time ago.

You can still buy the old NV chipsets and some even work with Bulldozer so
you still have a choice.  Until AMD makes a single chip chipset NV will have
a place in micro ATX boards.

 
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Yousuf Khan  
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 More options Jan 18, 5:39 pm
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From: Yousuf Khan <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:39:23 -0500
Local: Wed, Jan 18 2012 5:39 pm
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On 06/01/2012 9:58 AM, Jim wrote:

> "Yousuf Khan" <bbb...@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4f03dabc$1@news.bnb-lp.com...
>> AMD is now a monopoly on its own chipsets now too. Nvidia has dropped
>> out of building AMD chipsets a long time ago.
> You can still buy the old NV chipsets and some even work with Bulldozer
> so you still have a choice. Until AMD makes a single chip chipset NV
> will have a place in micro ATX boards.

Well, the standardized Hypertransport protocol is what allows old Nvidia
chipsets to keep working with new AMD CPUs. The newer Hypertransport
protocols work in backwards compatibility mode with the old Nvidia
chipsets, even though Nvidia hasn't updated its chipsets in years. It
does however mean that the AMD CPU's cannot use the latest features of
Hypertransport when they are paired with Nvidia chipsets though.

        Yousuf Khan


 
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