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Allyn Uptain

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Apr 28, 2008, 3:03:18 PM4/28/08
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Anyone have 5250 emulation running under Vista?

If so, what brand? Thanks.

And if anyone has saved my real email address, then you should know that it is changing to myfirstname...@gmail.com

Do stay in touch, we'll all be old and gray before long ;-)

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Ace

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Apr 29, 2008, 10:37:35 AM4/29/08
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I know powerterm will do.

Ace

goo...@miamicomputer.com

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Apr 30, 2008, 7:09:29 PM4/30/08
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On Apr 29, 10:37 am, "Ace" <n...@spam.pls> wrote:
> I know powerterm will do.
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> Ace
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If you are talking like a 5250 card running twinax, then Nlynx es/pci
is vista 32 bit compatible.

http://www.ringdale.com/products/st/asp/control.wizmoreinfo/id.322/po.2/en/default.html

above link tells about such, I know that system3x warehouse
(www.system3x.com) sells them.

chris

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> Allyn Uptain wrote:
> > Anyone have 5250 emulation running under Vista?
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> > If so, what brand?  Thanks.
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> > And if anyone has saved my real email address, then you should know

> > that it is changing to myfirstname.mylastn...@gmail.com


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> > Do stay in touch, we'll all be old and gray before long ;-)
>

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Allyn Uptain

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May 2, 2008, 12:26:25 PM5/2/08
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>If you are talking like a 5250 card running twinax

Yeah, guess I wasn't very specific.

> then Nlynx es/pci is vista 32 bit compatible.

Thanks. BosaNova's 5250 cards are not and will not be Vista compatible. Since these Nlynx are even more expensive than the BOS cards - which cost as much as a PC, Michigan Software needs to become a dealer for NLynx! They certainly have the best price on the BOS cards.

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Ace

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May 2, 2008, 12:49:53 PM5/2/08
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Why would you still use 5250 cards in a PC ??

goo...@miamicomputer.com

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May 2, 2008, 4:47:44 PM5/2/08
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I don't know his reasoning but if you are still on a sys/36 or an adv/
36, they only twinax connect. So you spend the $325 for the card. And
if you are running etu even on a guest/36, you go twinax as it is 10x
faster to transfer than say with tn5250e telnet.

chris

Allyn Uptain

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May 8, 2008, 2:14:01 PM5/8/08
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>On Fri, 2 May 2008 18:49:53 +0200, "Ace" <n...@spam.pls> wrote:

>Why would you still use 5250 cards in a PC ??

Do I have other options for connecting PCs to an SSP only system/36? And doing file transfers?

If so, I'd love to hear about them. Not Token Ring networking however. I miss Midrange Computing and News/3X. Hard to keep up on the latest innovations without an industry voice like those magazines were.

Just for conversational information: I'm over 60. The business owner of my largest customer is over 60. 25, 30 years ago he paid someone untold thousands of dollars to develop the perfect software for his business. He's been using that software ever since. He remembers the hell of that first computer step. He has no desire to go through that again. At any point in time he could decide he's had enough, sell his business and retire. The new owners will be a large chain with their own software and I'll be out of work. In order to put off the inevitable, I'm trying to make his life easy and keep his operating costs low. Advanced 36s are cheap, seldom break and easy to repair. So we plod along, both of us (me & the owner) unwilling to suffer the pain of changing to a new box unless absolutely necessary. But I would love to learn how to connect a pc without a 5250 emulation board. Those things cost as much as a new pc. Which is totally ridiculous.

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JHL

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May 8, 2008, 11:13:48 PM5/8/08
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dual os/400, ssp box with an ethernet card.

os/400 pretty much has to be v4r1 thru v4v4, and the guest machine s/
36 is true ssp. (at ver 7.5)

serial # protection can be an issue, if your ssp code checks the
serial #.

pc can connect using a telnet 5250 client, sign on to os/400, and be
xfer'ed to the guest s36 without intervention,

www.michsoft.com joe leblanc

goo...@miamicomputer.com

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May 9, 2008, 2:10:25 PM5/9/08
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If you go with an as/400 as JHL recommended, you can run a guest m36
(or actually 2 or 3 and share files between the "s/36's").

With ethernet, and signing on as mentioned, you can use ddm (thru the
ILAN), and do ftp to transfer files to and from the box which does
work quite well.

On your adv/36, hopefully you have it set up to be mirrored, because
with the cheap price of drives, they should be mirrored.

chris

Allyn Uptain

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May 9, 2008, 4:48:17 PM5/9/08
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>os/400 pretty much has to be v4r1 thru v4v4, and the guest machine s/
>36 is true ssp. (at ver 7.5)

Isn't v4 when IBM started charging you a monthly fee to lease os/400? Is that a problem?

>pc can connect using a telnet 5250 client, sign on to os/400, and be
>xfer'ed to the guest s36 without intervention,

Probably what we should be doing, but it's so much simpler with just straight ssp. I've got 12 auto parts stores + central office. All you have at the stores are auto parts counter men. They're digitally challenged, so to speak. ;-) But when I came on board they were running 5364s, so an adv36 is about 100 times faster and simpler to use.

I wonder how O'Reilly does it? I know they use as400s, just don't know if they have a machine in each store or run it all remotely.

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JHL

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May 9, 2008, 10:53:25 PM5/9/08
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allyn,

no, v4r4 was a one time charge for unlimted os/400 users (as opposed
to today's boxes where users are per seat up to a max.)

in your situation, you could have the dual os box at one site, and
have the other sites access the box over the internet and tcp/ip.
users see almost no difference. os/400 can be close to invisable.

joe

Allyn Uptain

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May 13, 2008, 8:08:25 PM5/13/08
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joe,

>in your situation, you could have the dual os box at one site, and
>have the other sites access the box over the internet and tcp/ip.

Currently each store has their own box. I don't think we could live with being dependent on the internet for connectivity. We have 4 different ISPs due to different phone companies in different localities. Occassionally, we lose the internet from one ISP. A lot less often now than in the past, but still enough to be a real concern if we lost the one that was hosting the 12 stores. This is a retail operation. They don't like the computer being down. ;-)

But an interesting discussion, and I never rule out viable options. It's just we'd probably have to go with a box for each store.

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