He's ba-ack!
Tim
just to let you know that I've been lurking off and on. It's just
as wide-ranging as I remember but the old standard stuff seems th have
quietened down a lot. Still...
Attn: Bill
I've just got to start "culling the herd", so contact me if you're
still missing a Mod. 85 "N" system and we can work out the details.
Tim
That's Bill Walsh, in case there's any confusion.
Cheers,
Tim (a.k.a. WBST)
Robert E. Watts
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> Attn: Bill
> I've just got to start "culling the herd", so contact me if you're
> still missing a Mod. 85 "N" system and we can work out the details.
That's Bill Walsh, in case there's any confusion.
Cheers,
Tim (a.k.a. WBST)
Hi Tim !
Now you've gone and done it !
Bill will probably leave a path of destruction you can see from space
getting there to get his beloved 85N. :-)
Let me (us) know what you have available. I recently took in a stray '60 (
always rescuing something ), and it needs a floppy drive. Can't fix it 'till
I get one. A few other items I have always had a hankering for.........
Good to see you back !
bobwatts
EartH
Tim
> "Tim" <wbstcla...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
Hi Bob,
hadn't realised you were "back in the fold", so to speak. Thanks
for the welcome.
It would take too long to check and list what I have, it'd be easier
if you just ask for things you'd like and I'll ferret out what I have
in that category.
Cheers,
Tim (a.k.a. WBST)
Kevin Bowling
Any RS/6000 gear, parts, or software? Also always actively looking
for documents to add to my site (electronic or paper).
Regards,
Kevin
bobwatts
"Tim" <wbstc...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Hi Bob,
hadn't realised you were "back in the fold", so to speak. Thanks
>for the welcome.
Never left. I just usually remain very very very quiet. I haven't missed
"looking" at this newsgroup on a daily basis since well back into the '90s.
When basking at the feet of the Masters, it is better to listen and learn,
than open ones keyboard and reveal a terrible mental tragedy inflicted upon
me back at the Badmiton Finals of '79. Never got back into the game after
that horrible beat down. :-)
>It would take too long to check and list what I have, it'd be easier
>if you just ask for things you'd like and I'll ferret out what I have
>in that category.
OK, I'll compile a list. In a little while. Got a dinner to prepare.
Starting with a '77 Ultimedia anything, or Server 77. Love to have a 704,
but wouldn't want to pay shipping. :-) Dual Xeon Server faster than Jim's,
so he can quit showing off. ( Amanda! )
Floppy for a '60. Did I already mention that ? :-)
Thanks Tim !
bob
Tim
>
> Any RS/6000 gear, parts, or software? Also always actively looking
> for documents to add to my site (electronic or paper).
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
Hi Kevin,
I have a small number of processor cards, old graphic cards and
the odd memory riser, plus a 7012-320H that I'm unlikely to do
anything with. Lots of doc.s on my server I'll have to inventory them.
I'll have to keep my AIX 5.1 CDs, but I recall seeing an RS/6000 doc.n
CD.en passant.
Cheers,
Tim (a.k.a. WBST)
William R. Walsh
> Now you've gone and done it !
>
> Bill will probably leave a path of destruction you can see from space
> getting there to get his beloved 85N. :-)
You can't *drive* to the UK--well, my truck isn't likely to go fast enough
to skim the water anyway. Otherwise I'd be right on that.
Got any KlaXXoNian technology I could borrow? :-)
> and it needs a floppy drive.
Been testing the ones I have. So far they're all in need of help. Some might
come around with some persuasion. You probably don't want one that doesn't
work right away.
William
William R. Walsh
> That's Bill Walsh, in case there's any confusion.
(cue sound of ears perking up)
Alrightythen...how might you propose getting it from you to me (in the US)?
Think there's any feasible (not ruinously expensive) way?
I'd like to get the whole system and not just pieces. Having a "real"
complete one would be nice.
Moderately expensive would be justifiable. Maybe up the equivalent of $50-75
USD.
William
Dr. Jim
> It would take too long to check and list what I have, it'd be easier
> if you just ask for things you'd like and I'll ferret out what I have
> in that category.
The mythical Matrox video card?
Welcome back, Tim. I missed you.
-Jim
Dr. Jim
> but wouldn't want to pay shipping. :-) Dual Xeon Server faster than Jim's,
> so he can quit showing off. ( Amanda! )
Xeon/Xeon
-Jim the taunter ( that's "Amanda Rocks!")
Robert E. Watts
"William R. Walsh" <newsg...@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>
wrote in message
>
> Got any KlaXXoNian technology I could borrow? :-)
>
Well, there was that parting the water thing a while back....... got in
trouble of course.
>
> Been testing the ones I have. So far they're all in need of help. Some
> might
> come around with some persuasion. You probably don't want one that doesn't
> work right away.
Well, actually I would. But on the other paw, I really wouldn't mind to
replace a cap or two, if I knew the thing was going to work for sure
afterwards. Damned aggravating, that after 20 years, the IBM PS/2 'chines
are crippled by such a simple device, and of course, they had to make them
proprietary. Couldn't just have a plain 'ol flop drive that exists for free
throughout the 'verse, is ubiquitous to the nth degree, and practically
everyone has piles of all colours still laying around. ( and has thrown out
truckloads. )
I *have* briefly scanned some of the websites, and noted some of the elders
( Peter, Jim, Louis, etc. ) comments on "adapting" a regular clone flop
drive, and will probably study this more closely. If this can be done, I'll
probably just do that. Once an adapter, doohicky, or zxipptq is made, a
practically infinite supply of flop drives would then be available.
If ANYONE has done this, or has the plans, please contact me at:
ten.esuf@sttawbob
and I'll get on it. I can probably MAKE the device, but I can't DESIGN the
device.
I'll make sure there is a little something extra in your paycheck for the
plans. :-)
--
bobwatts
Watts Carburetion Service
WhizzBang Computers
" collector of Asian transfat plastic trinkets ! "
EartH // KlaXXoN
Robert E. Watts
"Dr. Jim" <jshorney....@inebraska.com> wrote in message
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>
> -Jim the taunter ( that's "Amanda Rocks!")
Yeah, I know. Just making sure you're paying attention. I'm still
incredulous that you asked humble insignificant little 'ol me if your posts
were making it to the ng, when you're the one sitting there in front of what
has to be one of the most incredible array(s) of techno stuff anywhere in
the 'verse, complete with blue LED's, dig and dial readouts that would put a
T+rgxotic AG flitter to shame, AND AND your very own Tesla Dial-A-Storm
Whammo gizmo in the back compound !
bob-0
Kevin Bowling
Hi Tim.
I'm looking for another 9-K or two (10/100 ethernet) but can probably
get that on my side of the pond. Any chance of an MCA Fibre Channel
card?
When you get around to it, dump whatever docs you come up with on a
CD, DVD, or I can give you an FTP. I wouldn't worry too much about
sorting it, let Google and fulltext search (http://ps-2.kev009.com:
8081/cgi-bin/search) figure that out :-). I can also batch process
BookManager files into PDF (http://ps-2.kev009.com:8081/boo2pdf/).
JWR
I just checked : your last utterings on this ng date from beginning '07.
The deep silence since then made me think that was your 'last post' . . .
Glad it wasn't! Hope you are well.
"Tim" <wbstc...@googlemail.com> schreef in bericht
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Although none of my names (or nicknames for that matter) could be twisted
into anything like "Bill" I sense the need to react.
No room for whole systems at the the moment, but a place for bits, pieces,
odds and ends can always be found.
Things like:
- complexes (pref. type-4 cubrun)
- soundcard (eg Chipchat, SB)
- videocard (M-MVA (with breakoutcable), VCA etc)
- PC/TV would be nice
--
Jelte,
Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki
Tim
> Hi Tim !
>
> "Tim" <wbstcla...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
De nada compadre, I can guarantee that I have NO card-edge floppy
drives or sledges for them, sorry. I bailed out of the 286/386-based
systems donkey's years ago. All Model 77s (not Ultimedia, but might be
able to assemble a Server 77 equivalent as I still have *loads* of
those 16MB ECC SIMMs going spare) an 85 and 95(A)s here, plus PC
Servers in MCA 320, 500, 520 and 720 flavours (not a PCS704, but IIRC
I have backup PCS520 and PCS720 plus a lot of spare PCS720 200/233Mhz
CPU cards sans processor and heatsink and other odd stuff FWIW)
Netfinity's and my humungous Multiprise mainframe). Plus there's all
sort of other adapters some of which would suit a Model 60.
Cheers,
Tim (a.k.a. WBST)
Tim
Tee-hee, you'll be lucky. Even at surface shipping rates I'd expect
more than that, but I'll check the approx. weight and do the estimates
online. May take a while though, OK?
Cheers,
Tim (a.k.a. WBST)
Tim
wrote:
Hi Jim, good to hear from you.
I'm afraid that answer's in the negative. Only a mythical beast to me
too.
P.S. It's Happy Birthday to ME today! Dah da dah daa dah dah...
-- Tim (I'm getting tired of posting via Google, must re-establish a
news server setup when I can)
Robert E. Watts
Happy Birthday !
bob
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Tim
wrote:
Pah! A mere bagatelle. 2 x 4-way Xeon Netfinitys (5500 and 7n00 from
memory, plus a Dual Xeon 5000). I won't mention the S/390 dual-
processor Multiprise on an 850Mhz Pentium 3(?) subsystem. No,
actually, I just DID!
Cheers
JWR
"Robert E. Watts" <bobw...@nowhere.com> schreef in bericht
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> Hello Tim !
>
> Happy Birthday !
I second that motion!
Jelte.
Tim
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hi Kevin,
I'll look and see what my 9-K 10/100 collection is, as I mostly run
10Mbs over my local net and 16Mbps over the Token-Ring local net, all
through a Buffalo 125Mbs (sometimes) Wireless LAN Gateway/Router to
the Cable Modem, with a basic 90Mhz Model 95A being the OS/2 file/
print server and Ethernet to Token-Ring bridge (even though I've got a
RouteSwitch and a dedicated LAN Bridge box to play with too).
FTP would probably be quickest and simplest, as I'd have to fire up a
system that has one of those embedded CMOS backup batteries that's
died, to even begin to do CD burning, which would be a serious pain as
that system isn't fully setup to access the file server too. I've yet
to finalise the setup for my USB 2.0 Portable CD-RW/DVD drive and
which laptop I want to use that with, primarily. So much to do, so
little time.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim
Hi Jelte,
> I just checked : your last utterings on this ng date from beginning '07.
> The deep silence since then made me think that was your 'last post' . . .
> Glad it wasn't! Hope you are well.
Had a lot I wanted to do and decided to go into "occasional lurk"
mode, So that I could concentrate on other stuff. Had a bout of
depression/withdrawal for quite a while in there due to issues here at
home, which I won't go into. But, of a sudden the switch clicked and
I'm back "in the world" again and raring to go. Thanks for the concern
and well wishes.
> > Attn: Bill
> > I've just got to start "culling the herd", so contact me if you're
> > still missing a Mod. 85 "N" system and we can work out the details.
>
> Although none of my names (or nicknames for that matter) could be twisted
> into anything like "Bill" I sense the need to react.
> No room for whole systems at the the moment, but a place for bits, pieces,
> odds and ends can always be found.
> Things like:
> - complexes (pref. type-4 cubrun)
Hmm, I have plenty of variation in the Type-1, Type-2 and Type-3s,
which I ought to partially distribute around, but almost all Type-4s
are in systems. I might part with a unique 60/120Mhz Overdriven Type-4
complex (I have a 66/133Mhz version which is in frequent use) for a
small consideration just to spread the wealth, as it were.
> - soundcard (eg Chipchat, SB)
I have a small collection that was passed onto me for a project which
I still have hopes of completing. So, for the time being, no, but you
can pester me on infrequent occasions to check on progress.
> - videocard (M-MVA (with breakoutcable), VCA etc)
Nope, I did have the big clunky earlier version, which I can't
remember the name of a.t.m. But nothing so sophisticated on that
front.
> - PC/TV would be nice
Again, nope.
> --
> Jelte,
> Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki
Cheers,
Tim
JWR
> Thanks for the concern and well wishes.
> Hmm, I have plenty of variation in the Type-1, Type-2 and Type-3s,
> which I ought to partially distribute around, but almost all Type-4s
> are in systems. I might part with a unique 60/120Mhz Overdriven Type-4
> complex (I have a 66/133Mhz version which is in frequent use) for a
> small consideration just to spread the wealth, as it were.
I'll contact you on that offline. Not now; gotta run; this evening.
We'll discuss how much wealth needs to be spread.
Expect mail from ps2mad....
> > - soundcard (eg Chipchat, SB)
>
> I have a small collection that was passed onto me for a project which
> I still have hopes of completing. So, for the time being, no, but you
> can pester me on infrequent occasions to check on progress.
I'll keep that in mind.
> > - videocard (M-MVA (with breakoutcable), VCA etc)
>
> Nope, I did have the big clunky earlier version, which I can't
> remember the name of a.t.m. But nothing so sophisticated on that
> front.
Pity.
> > - PC/TV would be nice
>
> Again, nope.
Again: pity.
Louis Ohland
> 60/120Mhz Overdriven Type-4 complex
With the infamous 497-66 cache controller?
William R. Walsh
> Well, there was that parting the water thing a while back....... got in
> trouble of course.
Of course. :-)
> Damned aggravating, that after 20 years, the IBM PS/2 'chines
> are crippled by such a simple device, and of course, they
> had to make them proprietary.
That it (truly) is! The later 2.88MB drives are a vast improvement, or
so it seems anyway. I've only lost one of those to an electronic
failure. (Another one had the signs of living a hard life and was just
plain fidgety about loading diskettes. Once it was loaded, it was
fine.)
> If this can be done, I'll probably just do that.
> If ANYONE has done this, or has the plans
For the pin-connector type drives, I believe it's been done! (And if
so, it was done by no less than IBM.)
Imagine my surprise when I found this interesting device in my
7012-397. It's exactly what you're thinking--a cable that goes from a
PS/2 style floppy connector on the planar and splits out to plug into
a plain old floppy drive with conventional data and power connectors.
I haven't tried borrowing it to see if it would work in a PS/2. I
think there is a very real chance it would. (I've read somewhere that
the logic used on the PS/2 floppy is different from that of a generic
drive. However, I found that a large quantity of the Panasonic floppy
drives I rescued from the trash have two sets of solder pads on the
board for jumpers that select between "AT" and "PS/2" settings.)
William
Rick Ekblaw
> Floppy for a '60. Did I already mention that ? :-)
I haven't forgotten you, Bob... in fact, I have gathered some
surface-mount capacitors to see if I can fix some of my "bad" PS/2
floppy drives and make some "good" ones out of them, but I'm sick with
an upper respiratory infection again, and I really can't take solder
fumes when I'm battling a URI.
Also, I've got a lead on a couple of old 8580s that should come my way
in a week or so, maybe they'll have operational floppy drives.
Rick Ekblaw
Peter H. Wendt
>> If this can be done, I'll probably just do that.
>> If ANYONE has done this, or has the plans
>
> For the pin-connector type drives, I believe it's been done! (And if
> so, it was done by no less than IBM.)
I heared the rumour a while ago that IBM offered a "OEMed replacement"
for the FDDs in R6K, but never could verify it.
> Imagine my surprise when I found this interesting device in my
> 7012-397. It's exactly what you're thinking--a cable that goes from a
> PS/2 style floppy connector on the planar and splits out to plug into
> a plain old floppy drive with conventional data and power connectors.
Not much of a deal - basically. The devil is in the detail again ... and
in the type / maker of the FDD they used for that purpose.
> I haven't tried borrowing it to see if it would work in a PS/2. I
> think there is a very real chance it would. (I've read somewhere that
> the logic used on the PS/2 floppy is different from that of a generic
> drive. However, I found that a large quantity of the Panasonic floppy
> drives I rescued from the trash have two sets of solder pads on the
> board for jumpers that select between "AT" and "PS/2" settings.)
The main difference is
- using the right-hand "media sense" switch or not (PS/2s don't)
- signalling the proper "Diskette Changed" signal
- using the proper "drive select" (PS/2 use a twisted DS1 as drive 0)
Then you only need to pull out the wires for +5V / +12V from the
combined power / data cable, adapt the footplate and the most of the
work is done.
I even adapted the card-edge plate and tilted footplate from a dead
Mitsu drive and stuffed it onto a NEC and used this Zombie in my Mod. 70.
It worked. Even booted from it ... but only with *one* diskette. If you
need to swap it out you're f... err ... stucked.
Obviously I made a mistake somewhere.
--
Peter from Germany
http://www.mcamafia.de
Rick Ekblaw
> For the pin-connector type drives, I believe it's been done! (And if
> so, it was done by no less than IBM.)
IBM did it for the paddle-style drives, too. The 6262 printer used a
PS/2 paddle-style floppy drive to load microcode, when the supply of
Certified Spare Parts drives ran out, someone designed a cable assembly
to allow using industry-standard 1.44MB drives. The cable actually went
through a couple of iterations, because it was first made to support the
720KB drive used in the 6262-x12 and -x14 models, then another assembly
was made to support the 1.44MB drive used in the 6262-x22 models, and I
think that a third assembly was made to support either 720KB or 1.44MB
drive types. I've got samples of some of those assemblies around here
somewhere...
Rick Ekblaw
Rick Ekblaw
>> > - PC/TV would be nice
>>
>> Again, nope.
> Again: pity.
I've got a couple of spare PS/2 TV units, I might even have all of the
pieces for one (the power supplies tended to walk). Sadly, I'm on the
wrong side of the Atlantic puddle.
Rick Ekblaw
JWR
Is there something like 'double pity'?
But I'll keep it in mind should my ship come in ;o)
Dr. Jim
> Alrightythen...how might you propose getting it from you to me (in the US)?
> Think there's any feasible (not ruinously expensive) way?
>
> I'd like to get the whole system and not just pieces. Having a "real"
> complete one would be nice.
>
> Moderately expensive would be justifiable. Maybe up the equivalent of $50-75
> USD.
You know, I still have one that I don't need...
Dr. Jim
> one of the most incredible array(s) of techno stuff anywhere in
> the 'verse, complete with blue LED's, dig and dial readouts that would put a
> T+rgxotic AG flitter to shame, AND AND your very own Tesla Dial-A-Storm
> Whammo gizmo in the back compound !
Shhhh!!! They're not supposed to know about that stuff!
Dr. Jim
>> The mythical Matrox video card?
>
> Hi Jim, good to hear from you.
>
> I'm afraid that answer's in the negative. Only a mythical beast to me
> too.
Oh well, nothing ventured....
I'm always interested in S720 stuff, big SIMMs for 95s, etc. But funds
are extremely limited these days with all the hope and change going
around here.
Looking for SODIMMS that will work in Thinkpads, but that's sorta OT.
> P.S. It's Happy Birthday to ME today! Dah da dah daa dah dah...
Happy Birthday!
-Jim
Dr. Jim
> Pah! A mere bagatelle. 2 x 4-way Xeon Netfinitys (5500 and 7n00 from
> memory, plus a Dual Xeon 5000). I won't mention the S/390 dual-
> processor Multiprise on an 850Mhz Pentium 3(?) subsystem. No,
> actually, I just DID!
OK, you win. But I only paid $20us for a 6850, 2G RAM, 2x ~20G HDDs, at
a local auction. The best part is, IT WORKS!
-Jim
Robert E. Watts
Haven't forgotten you either Rick.
I'm just trying to shake out some working Mod60 ( or 80 ) drives in case
someone has a stash of 'em. I have every intention ( should that happen ) of
distributing them. Someone may have forgotten that they have a pile of them
somewhere.
bob
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Tim Clarke
a number). But I felt it was worth a minor tootle.
--
Regards,
Tim Clarke (a.k.a. WBST)
Guildford, U.K.
Tim Clarke
"Dr. Jim" <jshorney....@inebraska.com> wrote in message
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I'll give you the "frugality award of the month" for that one. I usually
just decide if something's worth the asking price to me, and then go or no
go.
Tim Clarke
news:ZASPm.33593$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...
> Tim wrote:
> > 60/120Mhz Overdriven Type-4 complex
>
> With the infamous 497-66 cache controller?
Yep, IIRC both the P60 and P66 complexes I have have the full 66MHz
components apart from the oscillator, late production I guess.
Tim Clarke
> William R. Walsh wrote:
>
> > I'd like to get the whole system and not just pieces. Having a "real"
> > complete one would be nice.
> >
> > Moderately expensive would be justifiable. Maybe up the equivalent of
$50-75
> > USD.
>
> You know, I still have one that I don't need...
You'd be advised to e-mail him direct, as he's wanted one for yonks and
shipping "across the pond" is going to be very pricey for that weight.
Tim Clarke
> Tim wrote:
>
> >> The mythical Matrox video card?
> >
> > Hi Jim, good to hear from you.
> >
> > I'm afraid that answer's in the negative. Only a mythical beast to me
> > too.
>
>
> Oh well, nothing ventured....
>
> I'm always interested in S720 stuff, big SIMMs for 95s, etc. But funds
> are extremely limited these days with all the hope and change going
> around here.
Weeellll... As mentioned before, I have a "backup/spare" S720 and a
maxed-out primary, but let me take some time and I'll make posts of separate
categories of "Systems, spares and parts" in response to the inquiries that
I've had so far.
> Looking for SODIMMS that will work in Thinkpads, but that's sorta OT.
Not to me:
Loose
FRU 42H2819 32MB 66MHz 3.3V SDRAM NP (7) Tall
FRU 42H2819 32MB 66MHz 3.3V SDRAM NP (13) Short
NIB
Option 20L0241 NP SODIMM 64MB 66MHz 3.3V SDRAM 4K Refresh (6)
Also
Option 33L3071 NP DIMM 64MB 133MHz 3.3V SDRAM 4K Refresh (1)
Option 33L3073 NP DIMM 128MB 133MHz 3.3V SDRAM 4K Refresh (1)
> > P.S. It's Happy Birthday to ME today! Dah da dah daa dah dah...
>
>
> Happy Birthday!
>
> -Jim
Ta mate
Peter H. Wendt
> Many thanks guys. I don't usually celebrate birthdays anymore (50+ it's just
> a number). But I felt it was worth a minor tootle.
Can see what you mean. :-)
Good to see you're still around.
Have you been "on the continent" lately ?
Tim Clarke
> Hi Tim !
>
> > Many thanks guys. I don't usually celebrate birthdays anymore (50+ it's
just
> > a number). But I felt it was worth a minor tootle.
>
> Can see what you mean. :-)
>
> Good to see you're still around.
> Have you been "on the continent" lately ?
Not since my trips to Bulgaria late 2005 early 2006. I've been holed up for
quite a while, but never mind, my head's out of the hole now.
Dr. Jim
> Option 33L3073 NP DIMM 128MB 133MHz 3.3V SDRAM 4K Refresh (1)
This one may be of interest. It could play well with my plan to max out
a pair of TP 770Z. I still need some PC100/133 256 MB though.
-Jim
Dan O
> Many thanks guys. I don't usually celebrate birthdays anymore (50+ it's just
> a number). But I felt it was worth a minor tootle.
Cheers! Excellent to see you around, Tim.
Sincerely,
Dan
Tim Knight/CT
Hi WBST........
I think I have a couple of years on you......but 1933 was a vintage
year :-)
CT the Ancient
Tim WBST Clarke
I think the last two options are for PCs (DIMMs not SoDIMMs). Hang on a
minute...
Yep, 1" x 6" approx. definitely not for a ThinkPad.
William R. Walsh
> You know, I still have one that I don't need...
Well...how can I go about getting it?
I'd hate to road trip for just one machine (but might consider doing
exactly that). I would, however, be more than willing to pay not only
shipping but also something for the unit itself.
I know I talked a little of having a big box once. I don't know if it
I still have it. Time to start digging I guess...
William the Desperate and 9585 Deprived (K/N at least...I've got tons
of the Xs that used to live in Texas...)
Peter H. Wendt
Yeah.
They grow there - behind cactus trees. Some are harvested at an early
stage (the -xXx), some manage to get some more time to grow (the -xKx)
and only few reach -xNx ...
;-)
Around here the situation was totally reversed. My customers had lots of
N's and K's and only very few X's.
UZnal
> Hi All,
> just to let you know that I've been lurking off and on. It's just
> as wide-ranging as I remember but the old standard stuff seems th have
> quietened down a lot. Still...
Welcome back, it's been indeed a long time and the beer must have already
gotten real warm...;) I checked my archives and discovered this forwarded to
you one liner from the longing CT in June 2003, just in case you missed it,
here it is again:
> Hey UZ........
>
> Wish WBST a "Happy Swilling" from me and tell him to drop me a line
> sometime...
>
> CT the Lonely
> as wide-ranging as I remember but the old standard stuff seems th have
> quietened down a lot. Still...
We fought on the Spock/XGA/XGA-2 drivers front, and I think, we won the
battle. There is still a bit more to do, and the most funny thing is that
contrary to what the world was made to believe, the XGA manages now 64K
colors at 800x600 at 70 Hz refresh. Spock has gotten some engine boost. The
downloads include a summary of the respective CSIPH communications.
Tim WBST Clarke
"UZnal" <unalz-at-mail333-dot-com> wrote in message
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> Hi Tim,
>
> > Hi All,
> > just to let you know that I've been lurking off and on. It's just
> > as wide-ranging as I remember but the old standard stuff seems th have
> > quietened down a lot. Still...
>
> Welcome back, it's been indeed a long time and the beer must have already
> gotten real warm...;)
It never gets chance to get any warmer than when it left the spigot. :) Or
colder, in this weather!
> I checked my archives and discovered this forwarded to
> you one liner from the longing CT in June 2003, just in case you missed
it,
> here it is again:
>
> > Hey UZ........
> >
> > Wish WBST a "Happy Swilling" from me and tell him to drop me a line
> > sometime...
> >
> > CT the Lonely
Yes, a regrettable oversight on my part. I kept seeing an
unopened/replied-to e-mail in one of my inbox folders and hoped he wasn't
too upset.
> > as wide-ranging as I remember but the old standard stuff seems th have
> > quietened down a lot. Still...
>
> We fought on the Spock/XGA/XGA-2 drivers front, and I think, we won the
> battle. There is still a bit more to do, and the most funny thing is that
> contrary to what the world was made to believe, the XGA manages now 64K
> colors at 800x600 at 70 Hz refresh. Spock has gotten some engine boost.
The
> downloads include a summary of the respective CSIPH communications.
>
> www.members.aon.at/mcabase/xga208.htm
An impressive technical feat, Unal. And I wish my German was half as
competent as the English on your overview page. I still have that Windows
driver-related CD that you sent me. I must learn to allot my time more
evenly and productively. That's always been a thorny problem for me. ;)
Keep the CSIPH banner flying.
UZnal
> An impressive technical feat, Unal. And I wish my German was half as
> competent as the English on your overview page. I still have that Windows
> driver-related CD that you sent me. I must learn to allot my time more
> evenly and productively. That's always been a thorny problem for me. ;)
Thank you, it was largely a team work. There are times when CSIPH mobilizes
efforts and comes up with significant deeds. I remember the MSDN CDs, the
code served as a starting base template, it got fully rewritten and fixed.
It was however also very important to learn and know how the device works,
translating this to code is in a sense the easier part.
> Keep the CSIPH banner flying.
This banner is a patchwork, every single smallest new piece makes it
larger...;)
Dr. Jim
William R. Walsh wrote:
Well, I really do need to get rid of some stuff. I may even have a box,
if you can't find the one you had. If you send me some money + shipping,
and maybe copies of those Ultimedia restore CDs, it can be yours. Email
me off-group and we can discuss it.
-Jim
Tim WBST Clarke
I felt fairly certain that he'd find one over your side of the pond
eventually, if he was diligent enough about it. I really felt harsh not
responding to his desire that I ship mine over, as we were talking a couple
of hundred quid plus (guesstimating ~$300-400) and I didn't want to lock him
into a very expensive commitment. Perhaps a little cowardly of me, but all
meant with the best of intentions.
--
Cheers,
Robert E. Watts
Well, since "he" hasn't responded, how about $237.69 cash + shipping? I
would love to have it !!
I can even send one of my special aquatic homing burrows I acquired from a
band of nomadic Ohmish settlers that is resistant to layers of global
warming laying all over the ground head over there and pick the thing up.
Better yet, better send two, to balance the load.
I'll send the cash USPS so it gets there faster. Bucky is a little slow.
bob
"Dr. Jim" <jshorney....@inebraska.com> wrote in message
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Dr. Jim
> Hi Jim !
>
> Well, since "he" hasn't responded, how about $237.69 cash + shipping? I
> would love to have it !!
>
> I can even send one of my special aquatic homing burrows I acquired from a
> band of nomadic Ohmish settlers that is resistant to layers of global
> warming laying all over the ground head over there and pick the thing up.
> Better yet, better send two, to balance the load.
>
> I'll send the cash USPS so it gets there faster. Bucky is a little slow.
Now you're talking, as they say in the movies. I'll even give the
critters a treat when they get here, perhaps some qtzl (but not too
much, I know how it can upset their stomachs).
-Jim (welcome to CSIPHbay)
Tim WBST Clarke
If William ever gets his tail in gear, he's gonna hafta kick himself to have
missed this one.
Going once, going twice...
Robert E. Watts
If my offer has not been topped, let me know. I'll get the cash in the mail.
We can discuss shipping after the holidays are over.
Thanks !
bob
"Dr. Jim" <jshorney....@inebraska.com> wrote in message
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Dr. Jim
> If my offer has not been topped, let me know. I'll get the cash in the mail.
> We can discuss shipping after the holidays are over.
You are still the top dog.
-Jim (woof)
Robert E. Watts
bob
"Dr. Jim" <jshorney....@inebraska.com> wrote in message
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William R. Walsh
> Well, I really do need to get rid of some stuff. I may even have a box,
> if you can't find the one you had. If you send me some money +
> shipping, and maybe copies of those Ultimedia restore CDs, it
> can be yours. Email me off-group and we can discuss it.
I haven't been following this thread for a while, so I'll send you a
private e-mail here in the near future. (If I'm not too late, that
is.)
William
William R. Walsh
> I felt fairly certain that he'd find one over your side of the pond
> eventually, if he was diligent enough about it.
I've been as diligent as time allows (and this thread simply fell off
of my watch list). I've been watching eBay (as that was my main hope)
and kind of wondering why I hadn't heard back. (However, you did say
that it would be a *long* time until I did. So I was planning on
waiting a *long* time.)
I seem to remember that the last time we figured on being fairly
serious about sending it that postage was about $150 or so to send the
machine over. However, maybe that was in pieces and without the case?
I don't know, it's been a while.
William
Tim WBST Clarke
> > I felt fairly certain that he'd find one over your side of the pond
> > eventually, if he was diligent enough about it.
>
> I've been as diligent as time allows (and this thread simply fell off
> of my watch list). I've been watching eBay (as that was my main hope)
> and kind of wondering why I hadn't heard back. (However, you did say
> that it would be a *long* time until I did. So I was planning on
> waiting a *long* time.)
I've got an awful lot on my plate (as usual! I think it's a counter-boredom
thing, for me).
> I seem to remember that the last time we figured on being fairly
> serious about sending it that postage was about $150 or so to send the
> machine over. However, maybe that was in pieces and without the case?
>
> I don't know, it's been a while.
You're darn tootin'. I recall being quite horrified by the cost, even for
"Surface Shipping" i.e. by the slow boat, via China (kidding). Like you, I
can't remember the exact costs now. And I've yet to dig up the "fully loaded
weight" from whichever reference sheet or manual it's in. I don't have a
machine to weigh that heavy an item accurately. I will get to it, just not
very soon.
William R. Walsh
Oh well. Bob, please be sure you enjoy that 9585 for me! :-)
William
Dr. Jim
Czech your email, young Will. I sendt a response yesterday. Bidding is
still open.
William R. Walsh
(Disclaimer: I really wasn't sure whether or not I should post this. I
already know--as do many of the other long-timers here--that I've been
the center of more than one heated exchange, mostly due to some really
boneheaded screw-ups of my own doing. Perhaps this is another...I've
written and rewritten this several times. It bothers me.)
> Bidding is still open.
Bidding? I didn't know this had turned into an auction.
Bob Watts has two of the 9585 K/N systems, so I figured if anything he
was joking. I'm sorry to see that it doesn't appear to be that way.
(And yes, I have tried talking him out of a unit he already has.)
I'm sorry, but I just won't play that game. I said as much in my e-
mail response back to you, and haven't heard anything yet.
I feel bad about having missed out, but you know what: it's just a
computer. That's why I'm just going to wander off and leave it at
that, instead of possibly saying a number of things I'd really regret.
I don't really feel that way anyhow, Bob and I have had some great
discussions over the years, and I'd like to remain on good terms with
him. I *want* one, but there *will* be another somewhere and someday.
Maybe it's just desserts, I made a big mistake some years back with a
25MHz Model 70 and someone who desperately wanted it. I'll just keep
on looking.
Well, Bob, enjoy your new 9585 K/N. I'm out. :-)
William
Dan O
> HI!
>
> (Disclaimer: I really wasn't sure whether or not I should post this. I
> already know--as do many of the other long-timers here--that I've been
> the center of more than one heated exchange, mostly due to some really
> boneheaded screw-ups of my own doing. Perhaps this is another...I've
> written and rewritten this several times. It bothers me.)
>
If that was me, I'm sorry - it was almost certainly my fault. (I'm
not nearly such a jerk now that I've been bicycling so much.)
<snip>
> ... 9585 K/N...
<snip>
>
> I feel bad about having missed out, but you know what: it's just a
> computer. That's why I'm just going to wander off and leave it at
> that...
<snip>
(Santa, are you getting this?)
William, I think you're as deserving an heir to PS/2dom as could be.
Hold onto that good perspective, though.
(I wish I had one of these things - only so I could send it straight
to you. If I should die without a will, you can have all the PS/2
stuff If you ever plan a trip out west look me up - stop by for a
beer or ice cream or something ;-)
William R. Walsh
> If that was me, I'm sorry - it was almost certainly my fault. (I'm
> not nearly such a jerk now that I've been bicycling so much.)
Be assured that it was *not* you. I'm sure we have disagreed on things, but
none were serious and most of them made me think.
The reference has to do with people who entered into deals with me in good
faith that I'd see them through. I went way over what my resources would
allow, went way off the deep end in terms of my reaction to requests to make
good on those obligations and in general had a pretty nasty ride where I
picked up some bruises. I came away with a lot learned, but it was a hard
lesson that I'd rather not have had to go through and I don't know that any
involved have ever forgiven me those transgressions. I don't expect that
they should.
> William, I think you're as deserving an heir to PS/2dom as could be.
> Hold onto that good perspective, though.
I'm holding on to it. :-)
Good things come to those who wait. I've always believed that and I see no
reason to stop now.
> (I wish I had one of these things - only so I could send it straight
> to you. If I should die without a will, you can have all the PS/2
> stuff If you ever plan a trip out west look me up - stop by for a
> beer or ice cream or something ;-)
If I'm ever in that part of the world, I'll be sure to look you up. Could be
entertaining. :-)
William
Dr. Jim
> Bidding? I didn't know this had turned into an auction.
Yep, it's a Klaxo (sic) plot. They are trying to stir up hate,
discontent, and health care reform. It's all part of their plan to
convert hume currency into gold pressed latinum so they can subsidize
more space hookers. You think that blizzard in Copenhagen was just a
coincidence?
And Watts wandts to buy some drones, too. He likes mine.
Gotta go, I need to beef up my shields. He's sure to target me now.
He'll probably launch some battle-tyres at me. Duck and cover, and cover
your duck.
Robert E. Watts
Inserting comments as I go..........
It appears that I may have acted 'fracking irrationally by not waiting weeks
instead of days to "place a bid" on what I thought was an abandoned 85N.
Normally, irrationally is SOP and not a problem here at the BODADC, (
Basement of Doom and Diet Cola ) but occasionally causes problems........
Also, it appears that something called "Christmas" is about to break out
that I was previously unaware of, and this will require copious quantities
of cash that is overwhelming my presses, and will necessitate a reduction to
my bid. Which shouldn't be a problem, as no one else ( to my complete
SHOCK ) has not bid anyway.
New bid: $123
Then, I found some Super Collider Earthmover Gumball Burnout Special tars
for the Cherokee that I wandt to buy, and this requires a further reduction
to my bid.
New bid: $87
"Dr. Jim" <jshorney....@inebraska.com> wrote in message
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> William R. Walsh wrote:
>> Bidding? I didn't know this had turned into an auction.
>
> Yep, it's a Klaxo (sic) plot. They are trying to stir up hate, discontent,
> and health care reform. It's all part of their plan to convert hume
> currency into gold pressed latinum so they can subsidize more space
> hookers.
I didn't realize you would have a problem with this. Aren't you the one
always complaining about there never being a hooker around when you need one
?
You think that blizzard in Copenhagen was just a coincidence?
>
"We" can arrange those in Lincoln NB you know.............
> And Watts wandts to buy some drones, too. He likes mine.
>
Which leads me to the REAL reason for this OT post. Well, except for that
85N thing...
I got this really great deal on 77 "Heapkit" Drone kits !! ( It's my
understanding that Heapkit is a subsidiary of Heathkit, and are *almost* as
good !) My good buddy GreenWald turned me onto these things. It seems that
a company ( Heapkit ) is selling this things cheap 'cause they are on the
brink of solvency, and didn't want to appear special during this economic
downturn and attract attention from you know who.
Below is an excerpt taken from the brochure:
( I had to translate, 'cause it was in Injun )
***********************
Congratulations! You have purchased one of the finest Drone making kits
available anywhere in the Universe. Guaranteed to amaze and impress your
friends, your new Drone will be the envy of the neighborhood, and likely
only cause the kind of trouble that young impetuous teenagers get into
during springbreak while drinking heavily.
Your Drone is designed to deliver days of trouble free Droning, and provide
hours of enjoyment and fun until the bats run out. ( Refills of bats � are
available all over EartH, and we here at Heapkit INC. are not responsible
for refilling of your Drone bats. )
Your Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind Limited Edition Heapkit
Drone was carefully custom fabricated by nomadic AHmish settlers on the
plains of the mountains of Pennsylvania. Rare ore hewn from clear colored
plastic unobtanium horizontal cliffs located in tropical jungles in Northern
Russia is transported under the careful scrutiny of Lt. Frank Drebin using
special Aquatic Burrows to a secret location in Iceland where the ore is
allowed to "settle during shipment" before continuing it's journey to the
Horn of Africa, where is it loaded onto Pirate submarines allowing it to be
smuggled secretly without anyone knowing about it to the shores of Canada,
where it can be loaded into carefully concealed Oscar Meyer Weinermobiles
for final shipment to the meandering streams of the picturesque AHmis
country.
Using steam powered cordless tools running only on steam, these gentle
warring warriors take special clear colored plastic unobtanium ore hewn from
the horizontal cliffs of unobtanium plastic found only in the tropical
jungles located in Northern Russia and create these special Rare Signature
Series Handmade One of a kind Limited Edition Heapkit Drones one at a time
on an assembly line. Each and every handmade Rare Signature Series Handmade
One of a kind Limited Edition Heapkit Drone is then thoroughly tested to
conform to the highest standards of quality by OSHA engineers and each
approved Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind Limited Edition
Heapkit Drone that passes this rigorous testing receives UL� approval for
use in the U.S.A. Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind Limited
Edition Heapkit Drones that do not pass are shipped to China and sold in
Wal-Mart stores and labeled accordingly.
(WARNING: Accept ONLY Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind Limited
Edition Heapkit Drone that have the UL� approval sticker, or unexpected
naked singularities could result ! )
These Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind Limited Edition Heapkit
Drone are dishwasher safe, and will not harm anything else in the
dishwasher. However, the Drone itself will be destroyed, and the candy will
probably melt. If the Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind Limited
Edition Heapkit Drone is plugged in to a 220 or 221V outlet, ( whatever it
takes ) it will momentarily act as a Lava lamp, but this is temporary.
WARNING: Never overfill your Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind
Limited Edition Heapkit Drone! The delicate plastic unobtanium mechanism
that is inside is patented, and prone to failure. You should never use the
Rare Signature Series Handmade One of a kind Limited Edition Heapkit Drone
in fits of rage, and only spin the dial indicator carefully to prevent loss
of equilibrium.
Lirpa Loof Productions
******************
Well, that sounded impressive, and I have always wantded a Drone, so I
ordered a bunch of 'em!
Which means I'll have to reduce my bid once again:
New bid: $ .37�
But I still feel confident, since NO ONE else is bidding. Heck, I'll even
pay shipping.
> Gotta go, I need to beef up my shields. He's sure to target me now. He'll
> probably launch some battle-tyres at me. Duck and cover, and cover your
> duck.
>
Naw, I tolerate you. No worries. Besides, we both like older Brunettes. That
can't be all bad.
Let me know when the bidding is over......
bobwatts
EartH
Tim WBST Clarke
"Robert E. Watts" <bobw...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> <<exceprt removed>>
>
> Lirpa Loof Productions
Hmm, sounds a bit "Boiinnngggg said Zebedee" to me. ;-)
> ******************
>
> Well, that sounded impressive, and I have always wantded a Drone, so I
> ordered a bunch of 'em!
>
> Which means I'll have to reduce my bid once again:
>
> New bid: $ .37�
>
> But I still feel confident, since NO ONE else is bidding. Heck, I'll even
> pay shipping.
A fun read, but a budding Douglas Adams... I don't think sooo!!!
You're only in contention with William AFAIK, so even 37cents may yet win.
Only kidding me bhoyos! Salutations from "The Centre".
Robert E. Watts
"Tim WBST Clarke" <WBSTC...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> A fun read, but a budding Douglas Adams... I don't think sooo!!!
>
Well, damned if I'm going to waste my "A" stuff on this nefarious group.
:-)
> You're only in contention with William AFAIK, so even 37cents may yet win.
> Only kidding me bhoyos! Salutations from "The Centre".
The Centre ?! Really ?
Are you from the TV show "The Pretender ? "
bob
Tim WBST Clarke
> >
> > A fun read, but a budding Douglas Adams... I don't think sooo!!!
>
> Well, damned if I'm going to waste my "A" stuff on this nefarious group.
>
> :-)
>
> > You're only in contention with William AFAIK, so even 37cents may yet
win.
> > Only kidding me bhoyos! Salutations from "The Centre".
>
> The Centre ?! Really ?
>
> Are you from the TV show "The Pretender ? "
More like "Man in a Suitcase", if you remember that one, I'd say. Except
this main character's more like the film version thereof with Michael Caine
playing the lead.
Robert E. Watts
>
> More like "Man in a Suitcase", if you remember that one, I'd say. Except
> this main character's more like the film version thereof with Michael
> Caine
> playing the lead.
> --
Ah, Michael Caine, Great Actor.
bob
William R. Walsh
Going back in time, I believed that Jim and I had at least a "loose
leaf" agreement for me to obtain a 9585 K/N series system that he has
(or had). The initial dealings were suggested as being certain
Thinkpad parts or something. Parts I didn't have in any case, so I
offered to pony up the cash for shipping and a big box.
Well, the big box went away (don't know where, to be honest) and I
kind of forgot about the whole thing. It got pushed onto a back
burner.
Since it came back up here recently, things started moving again. I'd
never lost interest, it just got lost in the shuffle. My ISP changed
newsfeeds and caused all my marked postings to disappear. I'd just as
soon pay some cash for shipping and maybe a little extra for time and
trouble spent on it--and be done with it.
The problem I run into is that I take people far too seriously, and
that is exactly what I did when the "auction" bit came up. I don't
always "get" it when someone's joking. As far as I knew, it was real
and serious...and I'd missed out. So I bowed out, believing that I'd
simply missed out and that would be it. (And should that turn out to
be the case, I'll just stay out, as I said I would.)
Am I still interested? Why yes I am. But I've got a line on another,
as someone contacted me stating that they have one. I intend to follow
through on that, although it will not be inexpensive.
Bob, if you want Jim's 9585 K/N, take it. But if not, let's get things
moving again. I know I've dropped the ball in spots here. Please tell
me exactly what it will take (cash? Ultimedia CDs? other PS/2 stuff?)
and I'll do it.
William
Robert E. Watts
Well, so far, you have to beat .37�
:-)
bobwatts
--
bobwatts
Watts Carburetion Service
WhizzBang Computers
" collector of Asian transfat plastic trinkets ! "
EartH // KlaXXoN
Dr. Jim
> I didn't realize you would have a problem with this. Aren't you the one
> always complaining about there never being a hooker around when you need one
> ?
Where did I say that I had a problem with it?
> You think that blizzard in Copenhagen was just a coincidence?
>>
>
> "We" can arrange those in Lincoln NB you know.............
Good, I'm sure that Lincoln, New Brunswick, will be thrilled. They are
still wary about you after that little incident with the marshmallows
and hay baler.
> Which means I'll have to reduce my bid once again:
>
> New bid: $ .37�
>
> But I still feel confident, since NO ONE else is bidding. Heck, I'll even
> pay shipping.
You're still in the lead.
> Naw, I tolerate you. No worries. Besides, we both like older Brunettes. That
> can't be all bad.
And duly noted that Amanda, the one who rocks, is a brunette now.
In the words of the immortal Bruce Willis, "yippee ki-yo .... "!
-Jim
William R. Walsh
William (so much for not getting involved?)