Soundcard-MIDI is *not* obsolete
Radium
I know I've brought this extremely-off-topic subject up -- and in
other groups -- before but I just can't get over it. I apologize
profusely to those who might be annoyed. I hate soundfonts,
emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths.
I request that readers please read this message from began to end
until they fully understand it.
There are many people who still care about MIDI but unfortunately,
these are the sick f--ks who actually like sample playback MIDI
synths, emulations, and soundfonts.
No offense, but you are SOOOOO wrong when you say MIDI is obsolete.
Its just that today's MIDI audio often takes the stinky sample
playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts. I feel like burning
all sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts along with
their consumers, and their companies. Sick pieces of stinky thick
diarrhea human kakaa foam they are. Vaporize all of those involved
with nuclear-fusion flames!!!!!
I would like to make some replicable magnetic electronic nanobots that
will search for sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and
soundfonts in any part of the world and attach to the digital chips of
sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts. These
nanobots should contain magnetic receivers that will extract any
random environmental magnetic audio signals from 2 kHz to 50 kHz
[excluding spikes, square-waves, white noise, brown noise, pink noise
and bass sounds]. The nanobots then amplify those signals to the point
where they would significantly interfere with -- and cause inductive
crosstalk in -- the audio signals in the digital electronic chips of
the sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts. This will
cause sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts to be
full of annoying -- and perhaps even frightening -- auditory
disruptions from environmental magnetic interference**.
That way all companies will be forced to abandon all their sample
playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts. In addition, all
listeners will be forced to endure the pollution of sample playback
MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts.
For those who miss their stinky human kakaa foam of soundfonts,
emulations, and sample playback synths, well, f--k them!
Voila! No more sample playback MIDI.
I demand that MIDI either use CMS220, or that MIDI audio not be used
at all.
Death to MIDI other than Creative Music Synth [220].
All sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts must be
burned badly. That way those involved in MIDI audio will not have much
choice other than to listen to [or produce]:
1. Creative Music Synth [220]
2. Digital FM synths other than Creative Music Synth [220]
3. *Real* wavetables
4. Other digital synchs [excluding emulations, soundfonts, and sample
playback]
5. Analog synths
OR, the other option for those sample-playback-loving, soundfont-
supporting, emulation-advocating f--kheads is to totally give up on
MIDI, get depressed -- due to the absence of sample playback MIDI
synths, emulations, and soundfonts, and jump off a cliff!!!!
I'll see to it that revenge is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
**Note: The magnetic signals that interfere with those digital chips
should be purely-analog. I just love it when purely-analog magnetic
signals cause significant disruptions in purely-digital chip-based
parts of electronic devices that I don't like. Sample playback MIDI
synths, emulations, and soundfonts are an example of digital
electronic devices that I don't like so I want to victimize them in
this manner -- i.e. via magnetic interferences.
Here is my ratings for soundcard MIDI synths:
1. Creative Music Synth [220]
2. Digital hardware FM synths other than Creative Music Synth [220],
non-FM digital synths [including *real wavetables*; excluding sample
playbacks, soundfonts, and emulations], and analog synths
3. Sample playback synths, soundfonts, and emulations of synths.
Die emulators. Die!
Die soundfonts. Die! Hope they burn in underworld.
Try listening to a sample playback MIDI synth -- such as SoundMax's
MIDI synth -- and compare that to Creative Music Synth [220]. You'll
*definitely* notice the difference.
SoundMax MIDI synth audio is to the ear what stinky thick diarrhea
kakaa foam of humans is to the nose.
The Crystal soundfont is even worse than SoundMax.
Creative Music Synth [220], OTOH, is auditory paradise.
I hate FM emulation -- or any audio emulation for that matter.
Emulation = stinky thick diarrhea kakaa foam of humans
F--k emulation.
SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its
all kakaa-like emulation.
AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called 'Yamaha FM synth'. I
hate it though because it is emulation.
Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only
'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human
diarrhea kakaa foam.
I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness,
warmth, and liveliness of a *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous
-- or rather KAKAA-FOAMous -- fart of emulation.
Sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts are the worst
audio equipment ever. They are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy,
irritating, farty, hissy, terrifying, foamy, disgusting, and annoying.
I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so
warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent.
So yes. There plenty of those sample-playback-loving scumbags who
still indulge in the evils of sample playback MIDI synths, emulations,
and soundfonts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
Got it????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
There are tons of evil lovers of sample playback MIDI synths,
emulations, and soundfonts in the entire world.
Try visiting the newsgroups: comp.music.midi and alt.music.midi
Majority of those sick f--ks continually hurl insults at Creative
Music Synth [220] while praising sample playback MIDI synths,
emulations, and soundfonts. I feel like surrounding those scumslimes
with superhot flames resulting from localized nuclear fusion.
On the Creative website -- forums.creative.com -- I am known as
"CMS220"
In the above link, is where I take revenge against the following:
1. Creative Technology for no longer making or upgrading Creative
Music Synth [220]
2. Customers who like -- or don't mind -- sample playback MIDI synths,
emulations, and soundfonts
3. Customers who dislike -- or don't care for - Creative Music Synth
[220]
On the Creative Technology site, I first asked my questions politely
but no one answered me. I then got frustrated and vented all my anger.
Now those jerks know how I feel.
I lost control of my temper and used very bad words. As a result, any
computer with my home IP address cannot access the Creative forums.
Also, if I login under the name "CMS220" in any part of the world, the
Creative site will automatically ban access to its forums from that
network. They've banned access to the forums from three places already
because I logged in under CMS220. They've got some auto-ban type of
feature, it seems.
It started off like this. I asked in the Creative Technology
http://forums.creative.com as politely as I could. I waited a couple
of weeks. No response. I asked again as politely as I could, waited
another few weeks. Again no answers. I tried on the third and last
time as politely as I could. AGAIN, no answers!!!
I then got impatient and aggressive. I started venting my anger in
those forums. I used bad words. As a result, they've permanently
banned my IP and I can no longer access their forums. What a buncha
jerks. Yes, I did get carried away with the foul language but hey, can
ya blame me?
So I can no longer sign-in under CMS220. I got a new username "SB16-
ISA-FM" and logged in from another network outside my house. I started
venting my anger again using colorful language. One of the Creative
Technology companymen then sent me a warning note, in which he/she/it
threatened to contact my ISP and shut-down my internet connection.
What those fools don't realize is that I can log in under any name
from any network that I am given access to. It doesn't have to be from
my house.
Maybe if Creative Technology weren't made up of such jerks, then I
wouldn't have started spamming their forums in the 1st place. So its
not my fault.
I would like a real Creative Music Synth [220]. Doesn't have to be in
a sound card. It could be a keyboard, a MIDI box or in any other
form.
Sadly, its not gonna happen because the mechanism by which Creative
Music Synth [220] is kept classified as top-secret by Creative
Technology Ltd. CMS220 is no longer made yet the sick @$$ company
still keeps the working of CMS220 a secret.
Creative Technology is a stubborn piece of crap. F--k those stingy
secretive bastards.
I hate sick sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts.
I just wish the audio communities would revert back to real, non-
emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there.
FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is sample
playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa
SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its
all kakaa-like emulation.
SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit
resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All
SB16 PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames.
AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called 'Yamaha FM synth'. I
hate it though because it is emulation. The Avance sound card has
'Avance FM synth', but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real
synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot --
ISA being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM
synths.
Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only
'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human
diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain
a real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical
barrier to this?
I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness,
warmth, and liveliness of a *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous
-- or rather KAKAA-FOAMous -- fart of emulation.
Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI
synth.
I don't care for other MIDI synths.
Creative Music Synth [220] is:
1. Real
and
2. Digital
and
3. Hardware
and
4. Real-time
All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also good. But I don't
care for them.
Here are my ratings for *soundcard* MIDI synths in the order from best
to worst:
1. Creative Music Synth [220]
2. All digital hardware FM synths other than Creative Music Synth
[220]
3. Wavetables, non-FM digital synths, analog [non-digital] synths
4. Sample playback synths
Sample playback synths are the worst.
Sample playback synths STEEEENKS!!!!
Sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts are the worst
audio equipment ever. They are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy,
irritating, farty, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying.
I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so
warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent.
The only thing about Creative Technology that I like is their Creative
Music Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa.
Creative Technology is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty
customer service. Their tech support is so limited.
Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now
there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans.
I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] -- through a variety
of means, including but not limited to phone, fax, and their online
tech support -- only to be totally-ignored. I asked them about this
for the past 5 years. Never got a decent answer. In addition, most of
their online tech support is pre-written garbage.
Creative Technology also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting
sample playback synths in their PCI cards.
I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220]
would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware
versions of Creative Music Synth [220] -- in PCI cards that are
compatible with PCI slots and Windows XP -- upgraded from 16-bit to 32-
bit and from 44.1 KHz to 192 KHz. And from there, keep on upgrading!
When XP and PCI are obsolete then Creative Technology should be forced
to make even newer hardware versions of CMS220 -- with even wider bit-
resolutions and higher sample-rates -- that are compatible with the
newer hardwares and softwares that will exist in that future time.
If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties
up the people who make up that company and torturously forces them to
repeatedly listen to sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and
soundfonts until those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning
headaches and are deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the
people of Creative Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded
versions of Creative Music Synth [220].
A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously
hijacked and forced to do their duties.
The least Creative Technology Ltd could do is put a *real* 32-bit, 192
kHz, version of Creative Music Synth [220] in a PCI card. But
noooooooooooooooooooooo! They are too f--king lazy.
Its not just Creative Technology that's responsible. Its also the
fault of self-destructive customers who don't mind paying $$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$ for those crappy sample playback synths. F--k those customers
as well. Masochistic perverts! I don't care if those customers destroy
themselves. Though, I sure as f--k don't want them destroying me! Such
customers should eat their own stinky diarrhea kakaa foam. If you feed
a scum, then you're just as filthy as that scum and I sincerely hope
you suffer just as much.
I feel like torching the chips of sample playback synths with
oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output.
Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth.
Its those sample playback synths that are crap.
Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback
as a good thing often referring to them as 'wavetables'. These sick
marketers call sample playback synthesis 'realistic sounding'.
Sample playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky
fart emitted from a human colon.
I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards
have OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any
sample playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the
nose.
I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-
behind emulation.
Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample playback synthesis
as 'wavetables' deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat
their own crap.
There is a world of different between sample playback synthesis and
wavetable synthesis.
If you still believe the marketer-induced myth that wavetable
synthesis and sample playback synthesis are the same thing, then
please educate yourself with the hardcore scientific facts presented
on the following link:
http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Wavetable-101.pdf
Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting sample
playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM synthesis. Of
all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite.
If a synth is *not*:
1. *Real*
AND
2. *Digital*
AND
3. *Real-time*
AND
4. *Hardware*
then it,
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Here is what I would like to do. I would like to make some replicable
electronic nanobots that will search for sample playback MIDI synths,
emulations, and soundfonts in any part of the world and attach to the
digital chips of sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and
soundfonts. These nanobots should contain magnetic receivers that will
extract any random environmental magnetic audio signals 2 kHz and 50
kHz [excluding spikes, square-waves, white noise, brown noise, pink
noise and bass sounds]. The nanobots then amplify those signals to the
point where they would significantly interfere with -- and cause
inductive crosstalk in -- the audio signals in the digital electronic
chips of the sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts.
This will cause sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and
soundfonts to be full of annoying - and perhaps even frightening --
auditory disruptions from environmental magnetic interference.
That way all companies will be forced to make *real* synths and the
listeners will be forced to adapt to the excellent audio quality of
*real* synths. For those who miss their stinky human kakaa foam of
sample playback synths, well, f--k them!
I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so called
'karaoke voice canceller' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo
channel [right or left] and then combines it the other channel --
which results in anything identical in both the left and right
channels being removed. I get a mono of what was different in the left
and right channels.
When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the voice-
canceller, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and
crisper than when I don't use the voice canceller.
Due to the above, my MIDI synth dream would be a mono, 32-bit, 192
kHz, version of Creative Music Synth [220] based on the signals that
were phased differently in the original CMS220. CMS220 is a stereo FM
synth who left and right signals are phased differently, this is why I
get a different sound when I play throught voice-canceller. The
signals of CMS220 that have the same phase for both L and R have a
more cheesy sine-wave quality which I don't care for. The signals in
CMS220 that are phased differently in L and R tend to resemble a
fresher sawtooth-wave quality which I like. That is why I want my
version of CMS220 to be based on the sounds that were phased
differently in the original CMS220. I want my version to be monoaural
because I want all speakers to give out the same signal.
Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Radium
notejam
yourself. There are some
synth languages available that create synths of different types.
Syntth creator, synth edit,
and reaktor are available. synth edit is free. I do not know if
they have fm ability, but they
most likely would have that too.
However, I think you should consider your campaign to get what you
want, are you really
making your best campaign, if you antagonize persons that create both
samplers and
Fm synths? Some of the manufactures make both, in both hardware, and
software, or even
these synth languages. Also if your posts become nagging, most people
do not like to help.
someone that nags, they soon start to ignore the posts.
And you just might need the help of persons that use and love samplers
with some of these
languages that create synths. Therefore you might re-consider just
how you run your
campaigne to get what you want. A lot of use would like to see some
realy good synths
made in hardware on a card. Something that might have all types of
synth methods buildt
into it. Also have it come with a program that created randomly
instruments at the press
of a button like those good old fm synth editor programs of the past
could do.
I think a more sucessfull plan would be to get one of these better
languages, put together a
team to brainstorm just what should the synth have on it, and then
attempt to create it.
Also do the art work of how you want the control panel to it to
appear.
Do as much of the design as you can, and if you get stuck, attempt to
hire someone thats
more expert than you in the language to solve what your having a
problem with.
Campaigns can have tattics, both white hat guy tatics, and black
hat. Black hat tatics might
have worked on your parents when they just give you what you want to
shut you up,
but when you try it on the public, they usually ban you, ignore you,
or take some other
action to get rid of you, and they do not behave like an indulgent
parent, and usually
have a lot less patience with such behaviour.
Try white hat guy tatics for a while and I think you might get some
place whith your
campaign. Its when you figure out how to create a win win situation
for both you, and
the manufacture or others, that your more likely to get what you want.
If you can create a popular synth with the language, and then take it
before a hardware
manufacture, and suscessfully interest them in making it on a card,
then your
in a win win situation. You need to show the manufacture or software
publisher how they
are going to profit from doing what you want., or maybe just publish
it yourself as a software
synth.
Some study of salesmanship books would also help you in your campaign,
as they teach
you how to make the best pitch and show the other person the value to
them of what your
attempting to get across
Radium
To be honest, I've tried "white hat guy" tactics for along time in
many forums [such as the Creative Labs forums] and have either been
ridiculed, ignored, or given wrong information [on purpose].
As for hiring someone to make a card, its going to cost $$billions and
even then they still might do a shabby job. Like most people, I don't
have anywhere near the amount of money necessary to get someone to
make a customized MIDI synth for me.
Am I better off building own FM synth chip design myself after
learning about how it works? I mean, I just don't have the money
necessary to make someone do it for me. Its so very unlikely that
anyone will be willing to do it for me because that person already has
billions in his/her account and has nothing to lose by refusing me or
building the FM chip in a defective manner, no matter how kind and
patient I am. Hell, such rich folks have nothing to lose by attaching
a dynamite to it and then laughing sadisticaly as my room catches fire
when I turn the synth on.
For these dudes, its do all at your own risk, nothing guaranteed at
all. These guys just don't care. All they want is money, but they
already have too much of it. So there is no incentive for them to
build me a professional, upgraded version of CMS220. Even if I was the
richest and friendliest individual on earth, I'd still be taking a
*huge* risk in requesting anyone to build any customized hardware for
me. Cuz they still wouldn't give a f---
Ben
You are getting too much attention already, but here's another option:
step away from PCI. Real synthesis can be found in real non-PCI hardware
synthesizers, like the MiniMoog or Alesis Andromeda. I hope you can do
more research on this, instead of posting your anger to the people I
guess can do too little to help you.
Good luck on this!
Ben
Radium wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this extremely-off-topic subject up -- and in
> other groups -- before but I just can't get over it. I apologize
> profusely to those who might be annoyed. I hate soundfonts,
> emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths.
>
Next post, try not to repeat yourself (or some letter, e.g. 'E') and
make your point in no more than, say, three paragraphs. Thanks.
Radium
> try not to repeat yourself (or some letter, e.g. 'E')
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Erik de Castro Lopo
> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this extremely-off-topic subject up -- and in
> other groups -- before but I just can't get over it.
Time to start taking your meds again.
Erik
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Erik de Castro Lopo
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"An older MS internal whitepaper from August 2000 on switching
Hotmail, which MS acquired in 1997, from front-end servers
running FreeBSD and back-end database servers running Solaris
to a whole farm running Win2K, reads like a veritable sales
brochure for UNIX"
-- http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28226.html
Green Xenon [Radium]
> In comp.music.midi Radium <gluc...@excite.com> wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> I know I've brought this extremely-off-topic subject up -- and in
>> other groups -- before but I just can't get over it.
>
> Time to start taking your meds again.
>
> Erik
WTF? You're responding to a thread I posted almost a year ago!!!!
Remo Shiva
you got what you wanted yet?
Green Xenon [Radium]
> you got what you wanted yet?
Unfortunately not. I feel like torturing Creative Technology for not
answering my questions about Creative Music Synth [220].
Creative Music Synth [220] = SoundBlaster-16-ISA's FM synth = my
favorite MIDI synth.
I want to heinously punish Creative Technology for their cold-heartedness.
Creative Technology Ltd deserves to be covered in stinky human kakaa.
The kakaa should then be ignited. I want them to feel the pain they
cause me. I want them to squirm around in agony as those
orangish-yellow, cheddar-cheese-colored flames scorch their skins into
white foam.
1. They should be forced to go on a diet of:
A. Stale fat-free cheddar cheese
B. Lentils -- "dhal"
C. Sticky fig newtons
D. Farty cauliflower
E. Their thick foamy spit
F. Each others' foamy thick spit
G. Thick stinky nonfat/lowfat milk -- thickness results from removing a
significant amount of H20 molecules -- via boiling the milk -- until the
milk develops the viscosity of human spit.
H. The stinky human kakaa foam which stinks like the stinky thick,
foamy, tickly, itchy, hissy, sticky, terrifying, disgusting, annoying
diarrhea kakaa foam of a human who eats stale, fat-free cheddar cheese,
lentils -- "dhal", thick stinky nonfat/lowfat milk, sticky fig newtons,
farty cauliflower, and thick-spit-foam-of-humans along with his/her kakaa.
2. They should be made to bathe in contents A to H while those contents
are super-heated in a large container. These sick scumbags should be
forced to remain in the scorching hot, sticky, stinky contents until
they die of pain-induced shock. Thermal burns are extremely painful --
probably the most painful of all injuries. This excruciating pain can
kill -- via neurogenic shock -- if the victim isn't removed from the
heat source in time. The stench will most likely exacerbate the shock
reaction.
In the event that they survive the above two -- and with their pain
perception intact, they should be further punished in a manner that is
most physically-painful as possible.
Creative Technology Ltd are sick scum. Anyone who is part of the
Creative Technology Ltd scumgang deserves to be punished for refusing to
answer technical questions about Creative Music Synth [220]. He/she
should be put through the following scenario on a hot and dry day -- in
which the sky has few high white clouds [no grey or low clouds]
scattered around -- at about 11:00 AM of that day:
1. All his/her voluntary muscles [and their fibers] -- excluding
breathing muscles but including speech muscles -- should be relaxed to a
state of total paralysis [no amount of stimulation (whether neural or
direct electric stimulation of the muscle fibers) should be able to
cause these muscles to contract or "un-relax"]. This will make him/her
unable to move or vocalize.
2. While his/her breathing muscles should not be paralyzed, his/her
voluntary control of them should be totally lost [this means that
his/her autonomic nervous system will have complete control over his/her
respiration].
3. The motor nerves supplying his/her voluntary muscles -- including
speech muscles but excluding breathing muscles -- should also be relaxed
into total paralysis [these motor nerves should be hyper-polarized] and
unable to "un-relax".
4. His/her entire autonomic nervous system [and their effectors],
his/her heart's natural pacemaker, his/her tear-production, his/her
natural pain-relieving -- and stress-relieving -- mechanisms, smooth
muscles [including those in the respiratory system], endocrine,
hormonal, inflammatory, lysosomal, and immune systems should remain
totally unresponsive to the infliction of even the most excruciating
pain, totally unresponsive to any type of injury [regardless of
severity], and totally unresponsive to any emotion or psychological
state [regardless of intensity].
5. The parts of his/her brain that deal exclusively with movement,
contraction/relaxation of all voluntary muscles [including speech
muscles but excluding breathing] muscles should also be relaxed into a
state of hyperpolarization.
6. The parts of his/her brain that deal solely with voluntary -- but not
involuntary -- control of breathing should also be relaxed into
hyperpolarization.
7. All pain reflexes -- somatic and visceral -- should be totally
paralyzed.
8. All psychological protective mechanisms should be completely
disabled.* [See notes on psychological protective mechanisms]
9. All mechanisms that decrease consciousness as a result of pain should
be disabled. Here is an example of that mechanism:
Quote from http://www.internetarmory.com/self_defense.htm :
"It is speculated that various organs of the body can send pain impulses
to the brain stem indicating a severe or overwhelming bodily injury. The
reticular activating system responds by producing a functional "shut
down", which results in loss of consciousness within a second or two."
Once again this mechanism should be completely disabled.
10. Any mechanisms that specifically allow emotions, will, or
psychological states to alter any perceptions -- including pain
perception -- should be completely disabled.
11. All parts of his/her body contain VRL-1 nerve-endings -- in which
those VRL-1 functions as thermal pain receptors -- should be scorched
with smokeless, charless, sootless, ashless, emberless, non-toxic,
clean, non-polluting, orangish-yellow oxyacetylene flames until his/her
body is completely dehydrated from the flame's heat.** [See notes on
VRL-1 nerves]
The flame burn injuries will cause severe dehydration and loss of blood
volume by heating up the skin's water and causing it to evaporate. Shock
sets in as the blood continues to thicken. After 2 immeasurably-long
hellish hours the scumslime who is involved in making those sick ads
will most likely die. The sick fuck will be in SO much pain and distress
yet totally unable to express any hint of it; not even a single tear
drop will be shed from his/her eyes. Such cold-hearts deserve such fates
to heat up their coldnesses. It's called "eye for an eye."
*Psychological protective mechanisms:
http://jnnp.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/71/suppl_1/i18 quotes :
"In psychogenic coma the eyelids are kept firmly shut and are resistant
to opening. Oculocephalic responses are unpredictable though nystamus is
evident on caloric testing. Motor tone is normal or inconsistent and
limb reflexes retained. Other physical signs based on reflex self
protection have been used in this syndrome though their validity has not
been formally assessed. The EEG shows awake rhythms."
Quotes from
"Pseudocoma, also known as psychogenic unresponsiveness or feigned coma,
is difficult to diagnose and should be based on a diagnosis of exclusion
because, if true coma is overlooked, the result could be disastrous.
Therefore, all patients with coma suspected of being psychogenic in
origin must undergo thorough evaluation until the diagnosis is clearly
established. A conversion reaction and malingering are the most common
causes of pseudocoma."
"It is important to remember that none of the historical data absolutely
include or exclude the possibility of pseudocoma. However, there are
some clinical findings suggestive of psychogenic origin, such as
conditions precipitated by stress. Pseudocoma usually begins or persists
when an observer is present. Patients with pseudocoma slump to the floor
and protect themselves from hitting their heads and other body parts."
"During examination, patients with pseudocoma usually make
semipurposeful avoiding movements. They have normal pupils, corneal
reflexes and plantar reflexes. They may keep their eyes firmly shut and
resist the opening of the eye by examiners. Because eyelid tone cannot
be changed at will, in patients with true coma passive eyelid opening is
easy and is followed by slow eyelid closure. Blinking also increases in
feigned coma, but decreases in true coma. Passive eye opening in a
sleeping or an actually comatose person results in mydriasis if the
pupillary reflex mechanisms are intact. Conversely, opening the eyes of
a person who is awake produces miosis. The eyes roll up when the lids
are raised, known as Bell's phenomenon as mentioned before, in patients
with psychogenic pseudocoma, while the eyes remain in the neutral
position in patients with real coma. Roving eye movements cannot be
imitated and their presence indicates true coma. In contrast, voluntary
saccadic eye movements seen in feigned coma are usually faster and
briskly with a well-defined endpoint. Pseudocoma patients may respond
with purposeful movement to painful stimulation and avoid unpleasant
stimuli such as a nasal tickle. The presence of nystagmus during cold
caloric testing suggests that coma is either feigned or hysterical,
because nystagmus requires an intact cerebral cortex and brainstem.
Additionally, cold water caloric stimulation is noxious and can induce
nausea and vomiting, or awakening in patients with psychogenic coma."
"Similarly to patients with pseudoparalysis, the hands of patients with
pseudocoma do not often hit their face when dropped. However, the
diagnostic validity of this kind of self-protection sign has not been
evaluated convincingly. Furthermore, unethical provocative maneuvers,
such as dropping alcohol in the nostrils or olfactory stimulation using
ammonium, should not be used to induce responsiveness in patients deemed
to be in feigned coma."
Quotes from
http://www.memorylossonline.com/glossary/psychogenicamnesia.html :
"Psychogenic amnesia (also called functional amnesia) is a form of
amnesia which occurs in otherwise healthy people -- i.e., it is not the
result of a brain injury. It involves loss of important personal
information. Another term for this condition is functional amnesia."
"In one form of psychogenic amnesia, called fugue state, individuals may
forget not only their pasts but their very identities. Despite the many
Hollywood movies depicting this phenomenon, fugue state is extremely
rare in real life. Fugue state normally resolves with time, particularly
with the help of therapy."
"A more common form of psychogenic amnesia is dissociative amnesia. In
this state, an individual may experience memory loss which is restricted
to a particular period of time, such as the duration of a violent crime.
This memory loss is too extensive to be explained by ordinary
forgetting, and instead may reflect the fact that the information is too
stressful or traumatic to be remembered. Dissociative amnesia is a
psychological phenomenon, rather than a physiological one, and may often
be resolved with the help of therapy."
More on psychogenic blackouts [escapes] which must be prevented:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogenic_amnesia
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_n1_v41/ai_8773339
http://www.psych.uic.edu/education/courses/behav_science2000/reed/behavscilimbic03132000/sld023.htm
**VRL-1 nerves:
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html
TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) responds to temperatures above 52 Celsius.
"Painfully hot"
VR-1 responds to capsaicin. VRL-1 does NOT. There is a world of difference.
VRL-1 responds only to "painfully hot"
VR-1 responds to hot, chili, and acids.
Once again, there is a BIG difference between VR-1 and VRL-1. Read the
quotes from
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html :
"TRPV1 (also known as VR1) = Hot (>43 Celsius). Also activated by
capsaicin, the active ingredient of hot chili peppers, by camphor, and
by acids (protons)."
"TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) = Painfully hot (>52 Celsius)"
http://www.islandnet.com/~yesmag/brain/brainbump.php?id=95
"VR1 for hot, and VRL1 for super hot."
In the skin, VRL-1 serves as a thermal nociceptor. However in the
viscera, lungs and other internal organs, VRL-1 has a totally different
purpose.
So dermal VRL1-excitation is significantly more painful than VR1
excitation. This is why thermal burns are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more
agonizing than acid-burns of the same depth. This is also why
"temperature hot" is a lot more algogenic than "chili hot". All cuz of
those nasty VRL-1s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, these customer-ignoring bullies of Creative Technology deserve to
roast alive over a cheese-colored fire.
A flaming suit [device that aims flames at the bully's skin] should be
custom-built to fit the size and shape of the bully after he/she has
gone through the steps 1-10, I described. The flame suit fits the entire
body of the bully. Right after steps 1-10, the bully is stripped
completely naked -- to prevent smoke-inhalation from ignited clothing.
Only then is he/she put into the flame suit. Then the flaming starts and
his/her skin turns to white blistering foam, even if the bully is
dark-skinned. In fact, the burn wounds are far more apparent in a
dark-skinned individual because his/her skin is mostly dark while the
burn wounds are white due to thermal denaturation of the skin's
pigments. The flames are made by smoothly igniting oxyacetylene and then
feeding it the through the flame suit. Sodium ions are mixed with the
oxyacetylene to give the flames a terrifying
orangish-yellow--reddish-pink color.
Once the body is completely dehydrated, the flames are turned off, and
the bullying-scumfoam is left to die under the afternoon sun outdoors.
Well, actually, all of this occurs outdoors in the type of weather I
described.
The bully will be in excruciating pain and will want to die. In about
120 minutes, his/her wish will surely be answered, as dehydration
reaches fatal extents. The area in which he/she suffers in dies should
be a sandy open area. So right after the fire, put him/her in the dirty
dusty sand.
The weather and the color of the flames will only add to the horror of
the burn injuries. All the other bullies should be made to watch as this
bully dies his/her slow, painful, yet sure death before it's their turn
to be punished.
Not to mention, the burn wounds look like white foam. This
characteristic appearance is terrifying and sickening to most viewers.
However, these wounds still not nearly as scary as the color and shape
of the flames.
Remo Shiva
Green Xenon [Radium]
> You have WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much time on your hands mate
How so?
Green Xenon [Radium]
Well, Remo? What makes you think I have too much time on my hands?