stop MAC vs PC argument!
cvad...@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
please stop it!
don't try to change others' mind.
i know some mac people or pc people will continue argue this topic forever.
however, this topic only, ONLY belongs to those who know both pc and mac well,
who work on both of the platform for relatively long time.
if you know only mac, shut up!
if you know only pc, shut up!
cvad...@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
REPOST!
I change my position.
whoever you are, not matter if you know pc or mac, or both, shut up!
zhang hao
I was looking for a 15" or 16" monitor. The 15" monitor is at least 30% more
expensive than a 14" and 16" cost much more. I was wondering why the slight
increase in monitor size will cost so much more? A 19" TV won't cost 50% more
than a 13". But you can be sure that a 20" monitor will be more than twice as
much as a 14" monitor.
Why produce a big monitor costs so much more? What is the major technical
difference between producing a TV and monitor.
Sorry it seems like a stupid question. But I just want to know about it. And
I also want to know when I can expect the big monitors drop in price ?
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Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Myself, I use an Acorn Archimedes (A5000) which
completely knocks the above machines into a cocked hat, so I don't have to worry:=) :=) :=).
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Mika Iisakkila
>Why produce a big monitor costs so much more? What is the major technical
>difference between producing a TV and monitor.
I can think of the following reasons:
1) Quantity. With monitors, the mass production is in the 14" range,
whereas most television sets are larger than 20".
2) Picture tube tolerances. Manufacturing a large tube is very
difficult, especially if you want small dot pitch. The difficulty lies
in getting adequate convergence (alignment of red, green and blue
beams). If the convergence in a computer monitor is off by one pixel,
you'll notice it at once in white lines on black background. In
television, the effective resolution is only around 600x500, which
makes the pixels much larger. To make convergence alignment easier,
computer tubes have smaller deflection angles (90 deg) than
TV tubes (sometimes over 110 degrees). My 17" monitor is deeper than
my 28" TV set. Incidentally, large studio TV monitors with 600 line
(1200 "pixel") horizontal resolution are very expensive too.
3) Drive electronics. Computer monitors may need >60kHz horizontal
sweep and 130MHz video bandwidth to get a decent resolution for that
large tube. TV sets manage with ~16kHz and 5MHz at all sizes, and
smaller monitors usually don't need the high frequencies either.
>Sorry it seems like a stupid question. But I just want to know about it. And
>I also want to know when I can expect the big monitors drop in price ?
Not a stupid question at all. Don't expect the monitor prices to drop
dramatically, unless somebody developes some new technology to replace
the conventional picture tube.
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Robert Wiegand
>I was looking for a 15" or 16" monitor. The 15" monitor is at least 30% more
>expensive than a 14" and 16" cost much more. I was wondering why the slight
>increase in monitor size will cost so much more? A 19" TV won't cost 50% more
>than a 13". But you can be sure that a 20" monitor will be more than twice as
>much as a 14" monitor.
>Why produce a big monitor costs so much more? What is the major technical
>difference between producing a TV and monitor.
>Sorry it seems like a stupid question. But I just want to know about it. And
>I also want to know when I can expect the big monitors drop in price ?
The reason monitors cost more than TVs is because they are much better.
A average computer monitor for sale these days has higher resolution
and lower distortion than a TV. If you actually compare the specs. you
will see that the computer monitor will be better in almost every
catagory.
The large monitors are harder to make because they must meet the same
distortin specs as the smaller moniters. The bigger the screen gets
the harder this gets. So a big monitor must be higher quality to get
the same visual quality as a small monitor. This raises the price by
more than just the size difference.
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Mark Schweder
WHAT ABOUT AMIGA vs PC vs MAC?
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jac...@cerritos.edu
> In article <1992Nov30...@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>, cvad...@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>> In article <1992Nov29...@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>, cvad...@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>>> the debate on mac vs pc is out of hand.
>>> please stop it!
>>> don't try to change others' mind.
>>> i know some mac people or pc people will continue argue this topic forever.
>>> however, this topic only, ONLY belongs to those who know both pc and mac well,
>>> who work on both of the platform for relatively long time.
>>>
>>> if you know only mac, shut up!
>>> if you know only pc, shut up!
>>
>> REPOST!
>> I change my position.
>> whoever you are, not matter if you know pc or mac, or both, shut up!
>
> WHAT ABOUT AMIGA vs PC vs MAC?
TAKE THIS DRIVEL TO THE ADVOCACY GROUPS!
Hardware groups are not the place for the disscusion of Mac vs. Pc vs. Amiga
vs. abacacuses!
Take this to to advocacy groups, where they LIKE to argue endlessly!
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Tony Buckland
>Why produce a big monitor costs so much more? What is the major technical
>difference between producing a TV and monitor.
You may get other, more informed opinion. But my gut feeling is that
there are tens of millions of people who want to watch 20-inch
TV screens from across the room, and far fewer people who can sit
back far enough to enjoy all but the most complex, detailed
collection of windows on a 20-inch monitor.
Faisal Nameer Jawdat
> TAKE THIS DRIVEL TO THE ADVOCACY GROUPS!
>
> Hardware groups are not the place for the disscusion of Mac vs. Pc vs. Amiga
> vs. abacacuses!
>
> Take this to to advocacy groups, where they LIKE to argue endlessly!
I'd like to publicly apologize to everyone I pointlessly flamed at a
few days ago in the middle of arguing this point when I realized it
was pointless to discuss facts and everyone was going on dogma, and
told a whole bunch of people off. Sorry about that. I lost my cool
when I shouldn't have.
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Tom Kotsines
>jac...@cerritos.edu writes:
>> TAKE THIS DRIVEL TO THE ADVOCACY GROUPS!
>>
>> Hardware groups are not the place for the disscusion of Mac vs. Pc vs. Amiga
>> vs. abacacuses!
>>
>> Take this to to advocacy groups, where they LIKE to argue endlessly!
>
>I'd like to publicly apologize to everyone I pointlessly flamed at a
>few days ago in the middle of arguing this point when I realized it
>was pointless to discuss facts and everyone was going on dogma, and
>told a whole bunch of people off. Sorry about that. I lost my cool
>
Sergei Borodin
>you'll notice it at once in white lines on black background. In
>television, the effective resolution is only around 600x500, which
>makes the pixels much larger.
Not even so. The brightness signal bandwith which, in fact, determines
the maximum resolution (because human eye doesn't distinguish color
of small areas) is only 6.5 MHz in Europe and 5.5 in the USA.
Given the active scan line of 48 us, the maximum number of pixels
per line would be 312. There is no reason for a TV tube manufacturer
to put more triads (R,G and B dots) than a TV signal can carry, e.g. 312.
No matter how big the tube is.
Besides, 525 lines are interlaced.
S.B.
Michael K Gavin
I DISAGREE!! I have a (admittedly, "only" 19", but 1600x1280 resolution)
Cornerstone in my office, and it's great. I'd love to have a 20" color
monitor at home, and would if they were just a little less expensive (or
if I won the lottery...) Maybe someday...
Mike Gavin
mk...@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
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