laptops' hard drive processors

lbrtchx_gemale

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Apr 23, 2012, 4:02:11 AM4/23/12

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Laptops are designed to be picky about the kinds of internal hard drives they may use. For example I need 320GB 5400 rpm hard drives based on the following chips:
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AMD: 462355-002
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INTEL: 462355-001 489821-001
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Where can I find which internal harddrives (brands and models) are based on those processors?
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage: laptops' hard drive processors

Arno

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Apr 23, 2012, 10:44:39 AM4/23/12

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lbrt wrote:
> Laptops are designed to be picky about the kinds of internal hard drives
> they may use. For example I need 320GB 5400 rpm hard drives based on the
> following chips:
> ~
> AMD: 462355-002
> ~
> INTEL: 462355-001 489821-001
> ~

That is nonsense. The only possible restrictions stem from
artificial BIOS restrictions and design mistakes in the controllers.
This is rarely a problem. Of course, you have to make sure
the drive physically fits, whoch is a problem with some SSDs
and 12.5mm high 2.5" droves.

There is no connection to the chipset or CPU used.

Arno

> Where can I find which internal harddrives (brands and models) are based on those processors?
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> lbrtchx
> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage: laptops' hard drive processors

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lbrtchx_gemale

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Apr 23, 2012, 11:22:01 AM4/23/12

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> The only possible restrictions stem from
> artificial BIOS restrictions and design mistakes in the controllers.
> This is rarely a problem. Of course, you have to make sure
> the drive physically fits

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OK, I am specifically talking about an HP Pavilion dv5 and (I am not saying you aren't right, but) the info (which, of course, may be just bs) I got from their own technical specs:
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http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01550108.pdf
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I know of all those stupid things about Foxconn messing with hardware and making the life of Linux users harder. How can you check if there are any BIOS restrictions?
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Am I nitpicking? Or, would you suggest to just get a SATA hard drive connector cable and use whichever drive I want

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Apr 23, 2012, 2:22:18 PM4/23/12

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Robert Nichols

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Apr 23, 2012, 9:24:45 PM4/23/12

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On 04/23/2012 03:02 AM, lbrt chx _ gemale wrote:
> Laptops are designed to be picky about the kinds of internal hard drives they may use. For example I need 320GB 5400 rpm hard drives based on the following chips:
> ~
> AMD: 462355-002
> ~
> INTEL: 462355-001 489821-001
> ~
> Where can I find which internal harddrives (brands and models) are based on those processors?

You are totally misreading that list on page 26. "AMD" vs. "Intel"
refers to the brand of CPU in the laptop. Those numbers are HP's
part numbers for what they stock as spare parts. If you wanted to
order a replacement drive from HP, those are the numbers you would
use. You won't find a drive anywhere else with those numbers.

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Robert Nichols

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Apr 23, 2012, 9:33:24 PM4/23/12

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On 04/23/2012 10:22 AM, lbrt chx _ gemale wrote:
> I know of all those stupid things about Foxconn messing with hardware and
> making the life of Linux users harder.

Well, to my left I see the display for a brand new Foxconn machine running
Scientific Linux 6.2 (RHEL 6.2 clone). Installation went absolutely
without a hitch, and all the hardware is working just fine.

Rod Speed

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:14:10 AM4/24/12

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lbrt chx _ gemale wrote

> Laptops are designed to be picky about the
> kinds of internal hard drives they may use.

No they arent.

> For example I need 320GB 5400 rpm hard
> drives based on the following chips:
> ~
> AMD: 462355-002
> ~
> INTEL: 462355-001 489821-001
> ~

What laptop is that and what make you believe it must have those.

> Where can I find which internal harddrives
> (brands and models) are based on those processors?

No idea. But I doubt that the laptop is that fussy.

You can obviously replace it with the same drive if it actually is.

Rod Speed

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:36:29 AM4/24/12

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lbrt chx _ gemale wrote

> Arno wrote

>> lbrt chx _ gemale wrote

>>> Laptops are designed to be picky about the kinds of

>>> internal hard drives they may use. For example I need

>>> 320GB 5400 rpm hard drives based on the following chips:

>>> AMD: 462355-002

>>> INTEL: 462355-001 489821-001

>>> Where can I find which internal harddrives
>>> (brands and models) are based on those processors?

>> The only possible restrictions stem fromartificial BIOS

>> restrictions and design mistakes in the controllers.
>> This is rarely a problem. Of course, you have to make sure
>> the drive physically fits

> OK, I am specifically talking about an HP Pavilion dv5
> and (I am not saying you aren't right, but) the info (which,
> of course, may be just bs) I got from their own technical specs:

> http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01550108.pdf

It doesn’t say anything like that.

Its JUST saying what they actually did use, not what must be used.

> I know of all those stupid things about Foxconn messing
> with hardware and making the life of Linux users harder.

That’s only true of Apple hardware and that’s what Apple wants them to do.

> How can you check if there are any BIOS restrictions?

Try different drives. No need tho, there arent any with that laptop.

> Am I nitpicking?

Just getting confused.

> Or, would you suggest to just get a SATA hard drive
> connector cable and use whichever drive I want

I wouldn’t go that far, you do need to check what will
fit physically and consider that it will do to the time on
battery and whether it will get cooled enough, but you
certainly don’t need to ensure that processor is used etc.

Arno

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Apr 24, 2012, 3:15:18 AM4/24/12

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lbrt wrote:
>> The only possible restrictions stem from
>> artificial BIOS restrictions and design mistakes in the controllers.
>> This is rarely a problem. Of course, you have to make sure
>> the drive physically fits

> OK, I am specifically talking about an HP Pavilion dv5 and (I am not
> saying you aren't right, but) the info (which, of course, may be just bs)
> I got from their own technical specs:
>

> http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01550108.pdf

>
> I know of all those stupid things about Foxconn messing with hardware and
> making the life of Linux users harder. How can you check if there are any
> BIOS restrictions?

That is not a problem on disk-side. If it works now with Linux,
it will work with Linux and a different disk.

> Am I nitpicking? Or, would you suggest to just get a SATA hard drive
> connector cable and use whichever drive I want

You do not need an SATA cable. As to drive, make sure it physically
fits (is not higher than the one in the laptop) and that it
does not get too hot. For example, if you put in a WD raptor
10'000 drive, that will likely die from heat. If you go with
any 5400rpm drive, that should be fine. 7200rpm depends.
You can again look at the drive in there at the moment
and what its datasheet says about rpm and power consumption and
then use that as a guideline.

Arno