Getting a hard drive for a Aptiva?
PoopskinTheLiar
about 20 years!) gave me a aptiva he owned as a birthday gift (i love
retrocomputing...okay, calling '95 machines retrocomputers is kind-of
pushing it), but he got rid of the hard drive a while ago. i can't
seem to find out what model it is, but do most aptivas use the same
kind of HD (IDE? ATA?)? it has a "designed for Windows 95" sticker on
it and the front of the case is the design where a bit of it has a
ridged texture and part of it juts out. that's really all i can say
about it as i can't seem to get a model number.
I should mention that he had a big blue ribbon taped to it when he
gave it to me. me and him were the only ones that got the visual pun
(Big Blue was, as you probably know, a nickname for IBM. a Big Blue
machine with a Big Blue ribbon).
cjt
Any IDE drive less than 120 GB should work. I think they came with
drives in the 8 GB range (at least that's what my neighbor's has).
PoopskinTheLiar
Ah, IDE plug does appear to match. will i strictly need to be getting
a drive cage too? it doesn't appear that there's anywhere inside the
case to mount the drive...
Rod Speed
Did your 'parents' all you that ?
> cjt <chelj...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> PoopskinTheLiar wrote
>>> So, my Personal Trainer's husband (who actually worked at IBM
>>> for about 20 years!) gave me a aptiva he owned as a birthday gift
>>> (i love retrocomputing...okay, calling '95 machines retrocomputers
>>> is kind-of pushing it), but he got rid of the hard drive a while ago.
>>> i can't seem to find out what model it is,
It should be on the back near where the power cord plugs in.
Documentation here
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/product.do?brandind=11&familyind=50004&operatingsystemind=49980&template=%2Fproductselection%2Flandingpages%2FbrowseByProductLandingPage.vm&validate=true
>>> but do most aptivas use the same kind of HD (IDE? ATA?)?
Yes.
>>> it has a "designed for Windows 95" sticker on it and the
>>> front of the case is the design where a bit of it has a
>>> ridged texture and part of it juts out. that's really all i
>>> can say about it as i can't seem to get a model number.
>> Any IDE drive less than 120 GB should work. I think they came with
>> drives in the 8 GB range (at least that's what my neighbor's has).
> Ah, IDE plug does appear to match.
Yep.
> will i strictly need to be getting a drive cage too? it doesn't
> appear that there's anywhere inside the case to mount the drive...
Yes, should be able to find something appropriate on ebay etc.
PoopskinTheLiar
> PoopskinTheLiar wrote
>
> Did your 'parents' all you that ?
>
> > cjt <chelj...@invalid.invalid> wrote
> >> PoopskinTheLiar wrote
> >>> So, my Personal Trainer's husband (who actually worked at IBM
> >>> for about 20 years!) gave me a aptiva he owned as a birthday gift
> >>> (i love retrocomputing...okay, calling '95 machines retrocomputers
> >>> is kind-of pushing it), but he got rid of the hard drive a while ago.
> >>> i can't seem to find out what model it is,
>
> It should be on the back near where the power cord plugs in.
>
> >>> but do most aptivas use the same kind of HD (IDE? ATA?)?
>
> Yes.
>
> >>> it has a "designed for Windows 95" sticker on it and the
> >>> front of the case is the design where a bit of it has a
> >>> ridged texture and part of it juts out. that's really all i
> >>> can say about it as i can't seem to get a model number.
> >> Any IDE drive less than 120 GB should work. I think they came with
> >> drives in the 8 GB range (at least that's what my neighbor's has).
> > Ah, IDE plug does appear to match.
>
> Yep.
>
> > will i strictly need to be getting a drive cage too? it doesn't
> > appear that there's anywhere inside the case to mount the drive...
>
> Yes, should be able to find something appropriate on ebay etc.
Aww, son-of-a! i only had enough money for the hard drive!
PoopskinTheLiar
Sorry to double post, but the machine MIGHT have a drive cage in it.
it has something to hold the CD and floppy drives in...
cjt
As I recall, on hers the hard drive mounts on the same frame as the
floppy drive (underneath it). Look for some holes spaced the same
as hard drive screws.
cjt
Yes, as I recall the hard drive mounts to that same contraption.
It's been a while since I've had my neighbor's apart, but I seem
to recall it swinging out.
Rod Speed
> PoopskinTheLiar <evangag...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Did your 'parents' call you that ?
>>> Yes.
>>> Yep.
> Sorry to double post,
No problem.
> but the machine MIGHT have a drive cage in it.
> it has something to hold the CD and floppy drives in...
It should go in there fine.
Rod Speed
If you put the model number into the url above, it should tell you that detail in the service manual.
PoopskinTheLiar
>
> If you put the model number into the url above, it should tell you that detail in the service manual.
That's actually part of the problem -- I can't find the model number!
on my PS/2s you have that little emblem that says "IBM PS/2 P70 386"
or "IBM PS/2 l40SX".
(By the way, thanks for all the help, guys!)
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> If you put the model number into the url above,
>> it should tell you that detail in the service manual.
> That's actually part of the problem -- I can't find the model number!
> on my PS/2s you have that little emblem that says "IBM PS/2 P70 386"
> or "IBM PS/2 l40SX".
There should be something like 3765 on the back near where the power cord plugs in.
There should also be a number on the mainboard inside too, tho that one isnt as easy to use.
> (By the way, thanks for all the help, guys!)
No problem, thats what these technical newsgroups are for.
PoopskinTheLiar
PoopskinTheLiar
> "182137e26af11lm2"
Once again, sorry about doublepost but, well, it's hard not to when
there isn't a edit button.
http://i33.tinypic.com/2diftkx.png - Probably should have mentioned
this little oddity before.
Rod Speed
> PoopskinTheLiar <evangag...@gmail.com> wrote
>> "182137e26af11lm2"
Thats the serial number.
> Once again, sorry about doublepost but, well, it's hard not to when
> there isn't a edit button.
> http://i33.tinypic.com/2diftkx.png -
> Probably should have mentioned this little oddity before.
See whats on the mainboard.
Igor Batinic
PoopskinTheLiar wrote:
> "182137e26af11lm2"
It seems that you have M/T 2137-e26. Try to find support with that.
With best regards,
Iggy
Rod Speed
> PoopskinTheLiar wrote:
>> "182137e26af11lm2"
> It seems that you have M/T 2137-e26. Try to find support with that.
Igor Batinic
Unfortunately, this site is unusable for older systems for months now...
I've just went to our service department to see whether they still have
old HMS manuals for those systems, but with no luck. :o(
With best regards,
Iggy
Rod Speed
> PoopskinTheLiar wrote:
>> "182137e26af11lm2"
> It seems that you have M/T 2137-e26. Try to find support with that.
http://ps-2.kev009.com:8081/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/e9de.htm
Rod Speed
> PoopskinTheLiar wrote:
>> "182137e26af11lm2"
> It seems that you have M/T 2137-e26. Try to find support with that.
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ibm+aptiva+2137
Rod Speed
> PoopskinTheLiar wrote:
>> "182137e26af11lm2"
> It seems that you have M/T 2137-e26. Try to find support with that.
http://john.ccac.rwth-aachen.de:8000/ftp/mirrors/ps2supersite.homedns.org/pccbbs/aptiva/a2137sa.pdf
PoopskinTheLiar
spare screw. will this affect anything?
cjt
> Hard drive's arrived and i've installed it. problem is, i only had one
> spare screw. will this affect anything?
Not as long as you use it appropriately.
Rod Speed
> Hard drive's arrived and i've installed it. problem is,
> i only had one spare screw. will this affect anything?
Only if you drop it etc.
PoopskinTheLiar
Installed windows 98, installed a better video driver (it defaulted to
640x480x16! Yuck!) and it runs like a charm. What seems odd is that it
has 128mb RAM and a AMD duron, yet says "Designed for Windows 95".
Apparently the old owner's been doing some tinkering around inside it!
I'll have to install windows 2000 at some point, i guess.
Rod Speed
>>> Hard drive's arrived and i've installed it. problem is,
>>> i only had one spare screw. will this affect anything?
>> Only if you drop it etc.
> Installed windows 98, installed a better video driver (it
> defaulted to 640x480x16! Yuck!) and it runs like a charm.
> What seems odd is that it has 128mb RAM and a AMD duron,
How did you decide its got a duron ? The 2137 could have the AMD K6.
> yet says "Designed for Windows 95". Apparently the
> old owner's been doing some tinkering around inside it!
Its more likely what is reporting the Duron is getting confused.
What does Everest say about the cpu ?
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
cjt
Don't get your expectations TOO high ... my neighbor's has been a solid,
reliable machine until I helped her retire it recently, but it is
definitely slow by current standards. She replaced it with a $200
Lenovo desktop machine based on the Atom processor (not especially known
for speed), and the difference is amazing.