Pioneer DVR-212DD or Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)?
Ant
I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
discs, etc.
Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. :)
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Rod Speed
> Hi all.
All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
Neither. I prefer LGs, they arent as fussy about the media.
> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple sessions,
> copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM drive for
> playing music, watching movies, being source when copying discs, etc.
Its generally better to have the DVD burner as the source now.
> Any recommendations?
I prefer LGs, they arent as fussy about the media.
> Thank you in advance. :)
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> Hi all.
> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
> drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
> discs, etc.
> Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. :)
I recenlty looked at two drives with regard to DVD-RAM. the Lite On
managed to kill disks (which is supposed to be pretty hard), a Samsumg
203P (SATA) did very well. It also did very well for CDs. Did not
test DVD-<nonRAM>, since they basically all suck badly.
Arno
Ant
> Ant wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>
> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
>
>> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
>> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
>> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
>> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>
> Neither. I prefer LGs, they arent as fussy about the media.
>
>> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple sessions,
>> copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM drive for
>> playing music, watching movies, being source when copying discs, etc.
>
> Its generally better to have the DVD burner as the source now.
But I will have to swap discs during copy. :( I just want to do direct
copy from CD/DVD drive to the burner. That is how I did it with my old
Plextor CD burner drive.
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> If you depend on Nero's disk quality test, it won't work with the Pioneer.
How come it doens't work? What does Pioneer drives do differently? I
noticed the drives come with Nero OEM.
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On 12/18/2008 1:52 PM PT, Ant typed:
> Hi all.
>
> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>
> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
> drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
> discs, etc.
>
> Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. :)
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Is DVD-RAM, DVD+RW and DVD-RW? Or something else?
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Ant
>> Hi all.
>
> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
Eh? I don't get your joke.
>> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
>> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
>> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
>> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>
> Neither. I prefer LGs, they arent as fussy about the media.
What media problems did you run into with Pioneer and Sony/NEC drives
that I mentioned? I don't buy cheap nobrand discs. I do buy brand names
like TDK, Memorex, Sony, etc.
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Arno Wagner
>>> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
>>> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
>>> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
>>> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>>
>>> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
>>> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
>>> drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
>>> discs, etc.
>>
>>> Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>> I recenlty looked at two drives with regard to DVD-RAM. the Lite On
>> managed to kill disks (which is supposed to be pretty hard), a Samsumg
>> 203P (SATA) did very well. It also did very well for CDs. Did not
>> test DVD-<nonRAM>, since they basically all suck badly.
> Is DVD-RAM, DVD+RW and DVD-RW? Or something else?
It is a Samsung SH-S203P SATA drive, that can do DVD-RAM,
DVD+/-R also DL and DVD+/-RW.
However I have no idea as to the write quality for the non-RAM
formats (I bought it as replacement for an ageing MOD). The one
DVD+RW I burned with a CentOS image worked fine for a day and
I never used it again afterwards.
One thing I like though, is that disks get far less warm than in
Lite ON, as the tray in the Samsung has ventilation holes. I assume
that will give an advantage on any burn.
Arno
Noik
>On 12/18/2008 2:53 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:
>
>>> Hi all.
>>
>> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
>
>Eh? I don't get your joke.
Like "Hi, Joe"... "Joe slashed his wrists...". It's not a joke, it's
stupidity.
...
>> Neither. I prefer LGs, they arent as fussy about the media.
>
>What media problems did you run into with Pioneer and Sony/NEC drives
>that I mentioned? I don't buy cheap nobrand discs. I do buy brand names
>like TDK, Memorex, Sony, etc.
Rod Speed is a fuckin' idiot, I wouldn't trust him to babysit a pile
of rocks. But that isn't what I came here to talk about. Memorex is a
*horrible* brand to buy. They don't manufacture media, and, honestly,
I think they come along and buy the stuff that was rejected by the
other re-branders.
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> Hi all.
>
> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>
> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
> drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
> discs, etc.
>
> Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant
>> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
>> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
>> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
>> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>>
>> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
>> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
>> drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
>> discs, etc.
>>
>> Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. :)
>
>
>
> I have a PioneerDVR-212D but all others are in black here, works ok but have only had it a few
> months, it did burn a dual layer DVD ok, would no see a no name brand of CD-RW but that is a old
> one, all other disks have burnt fine, its also badged as a Plextor.
Wow, Plextor? I love Plextor. I have my old Plextor PX-W1210 PlexWriter
(12/10/32A; IDE). I hope this Pioneer is good as my soon to be retired
Plextor CD burner. :)
> Used it to replace a old 1300 NEC that stopped wiring to all RW disks.
>
> Check the reviews as this one did get great reviews..
>
>
> If you can't find them Please let me know.
I have a source. Thanks for the offer though. :)
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Ant
>> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next computer
>> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
>> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
>> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>>
>> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
>> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
>> drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
>> discs, etc.
>>
>> Any recommendations? Thank you in advance. :)
> ...and if you're looking for completely FREE CD/DVD & Blu-Ray/HD-DVD
> burning application you're welcomed to give a try to [url=http://
> rocketdivision.com/starburn.html] [/url] from [url=http://
> rocketdivision.com]Rocket Division Software[/url]. Just in case here's
> an URL: http://www.rocketdivision.com/starburn.html
Thank. I have v10 already. ;)
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Rod Speed
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Ant wrote
>>> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next
>>> computer upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it
>>> is time to retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick --
>>> PioneerDVR-212DD or Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>> Neither. I prefer LGs, they arent as fussy about the media.
>>> I will be doing CD and DVD burning (copy, importing with multiple
>>> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA
>>> DVD-ROM drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying discs, etc.
>> Its generally better to have the DVD burner as the source now.
> But I will have to swap discs during copy. :(
You have to put both disks in some drive at sometime anyway.
> I just want to do direct copy from CD/DVD drive to the burner.
Pointless now.
> That is how I did it with my old Plextor CD burner drive.
Doesnt mean that you have to keep doing the same thing forever.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Hi all.
>> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
> Eh? I don't get your joke.
Your problem.
>>> I am debating on which SATA DVD+CD burner to get for my next
>>> computer upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it
>>> is time to retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick --
>>> PioneerDVR-212DD or Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>> Neither. I prefer LGs, they arent as fussy about the media.
> What media problems did you run into with Pioneer and Sony/NEC drives that I mentioned?
They're more fussy about the media they are happy to burn.
> I don't buy cheap nobrand discs. I do buy brand names like TDK, Memorex, Sony, etc.
Those two drives wont always burn those.
Ed Light
> On 12/18/2008 2:53 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:
>
>>> Hi all.
>>
>> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
>
> Eh? I don't get your joke.
Just filter him out.
Ed Light
> On 12/18/2008 4:18 PM PT, Ed Light typed:
>
>> If you depend on Nero's disk quality test, it won't work with the
>> Pioneer.
>
> How come it doens't work? What does Pioneer drives do differently? I
> noticed the drives come with Nero OEM.
Nero says it's up to the drive manufacturer. I'd have to ask Pioneer. I
think I may have and not gotten an answer.
Check reviews at cdrinfo.com. Hover on Reviews then click Optical Storage.
Ant
> >> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
> > Eh? I don't get your joke.
> Your problem.
How is it my problem and why are you so rude?
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> Ant wrote:
> > On 12/18/2008 2:53 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:
> >
> >>> Hi all.
> >>
> >> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
> >
> > Eh? I don't get your joke.
> Just filter him out.
No kidding from rude people.
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> > On 12/18/2008 4:18 PM PT, Ed Light typed:
> >
> >> If you depend on Nero's disk quality test, it won't work with the
> >> Pioneer.
> >
> > How come it doens't work? What does Pioneer drives do differently? I
> > noticed the drives come with Nero OEM.
> Nero says it's up to the drive manufacturer. I'd have to ask Pioneer. I
> think I may have and not gotten an answer.
Interesting. I don't think that will be important. I only use those
tools when I have problems. ;)
> Check reviews at cdrinfo.com. Hover on Reviews then click Optical Storage.
I can't seem to find the models I listed or am I having bad luck?
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Rod Speed
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>> All slashed his wrists, he got too many posts.
>>> Eh? I don't get your joke.
>> Your problem.
> How is it my problem
You're the one that doesnt get the joke. No problem for me.
> and why are you so rude?
Because I can be, stupid.
Ed Light
>> Check reviews at cdrinfo.com. Hover on Reviews then click Optical Storage.
>
> I can't seem to find the models I listed or am I having bad luck?
Ah, they may not have been reviewed.
Ant
> Ant wrote:
>
>>> Check reviews at cdrinfo.com. Hover on Reviews then click Optical
>>> Storage.
>>
>> I can't seem to find the models I listed or am I having bad luck?
>
> Ah, they may not have been reviewed.
Oh well. I think I am going to get Pioneer one.
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> Oh well. I think I am going to get Pioneer one.
My Pioneer 215D is very good.
Ant
> Ant wrote:
>
>> Oh well. I think I am going to get Pioneer one.
>
> My Pioneer 215D is very good.
Hopefully, 212DD is good. :)
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> upgrade. I am still using my old Plextor CD burner and it is time to
> retire it and go DVD! Which one would you pick -- PioneerDVR-212DD or
> Sony/NEC (AD-7220S-0B or AD-7200S-0B)? They cost about 30 bucks.
>
> sessions, copy CDs and DVDs, etc.). I do have an old IDE/PATA DVD-ROM
> drive for playing music, watching movies, being source when copying
> discs, etc.
>
> "Even the sharpest ear cannot hear an ant singing." --Sudanese
> / /\ /\ \ Ant @http://antfarm.ma.cx(Personal Web Site)
> ( )
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an URL: http://www.rocketdivision.com/starburn.html
Thanks!
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Ant
> ...and if you're looking for completely FREE CD/DVD & Blu-Ray/HD-DVD
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> an URL: http://www.rocketdivision.com/starburn.html
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sandra Reeves
I already have the full version from the Giveaway of the Day site.
Thanks though.
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since I do watch foreign movies (mostly asians). :)
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