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Charles Hill

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Jul 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/11/99
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I'm happy another game is coming out ,to me the smaller scale the
better. Every battle is diff and if you follow the history behind it it
makes it that much more interesting.Having been to Gettys many times
it's fun to see the places on the map -houses etc. and names of diff
units etc. Not having been to Sharpsburg in person I expect to learn
more about an interesting subject while playing a game. If you realize
these were real events and real people it makes it hit home versus just
the same toy soldiers or Mech. robots on a slightly diff map.And you can
replay history over and over with a diff twist each time.I do look
forward to the day when more men can be on the field and one shot takes
out one man etc. Would also like to see a Waterloo and Somme some in
same manner.


WLambrukos

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Jul 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/12/99
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> Not having been to Sharpsburg in person<<

Looks like we have a player of the "Johnny Reb" side here !!!! :-)

Bill

Robear

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Jul 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/12/99
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Well, that is still the name of the town. It's Antietam *Creek*. I wonder
if they will put that on the box. :-)

Yeah, I know *you* know, just thinking out loud, not correcting you.
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Joe R. Shaw

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Jul 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/12/99
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Could be worse. I had a distant cousin who I asked about our ancestor's
serving in the Civil War. He promptly informed me that yes, one of our
great great grandfathers did serve in the "War of Northern Aggression."
:-)

Joe

Michael Tennent

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:03:08 +0900, "Joe R. Shaw" <js...@sisna.com>
wrote:

>Could be worse. I had a distant cousin who I asked about our ancestor's
>serving in the Civil War. He promptly informed me that yes, one of our
>great great grandfathers did serve in the "War of Northern Aggression."
>:-)

<unlurk>

Actually, we just call it the "war." No-one has to ask which one. ; }

Mike "That's pronounced woh-wuh" Tennent
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Bryan Corkill

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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Those who win write the history (and name the battles), those who lost
suffer rather loudly in this case. ;-)
yours &c,
Bryan
Robear <rob...@home.com> wrote in message news:378A8333...@home.com...

>
>
> WLambrukos wrote:
> >
> > > Not having been to Sharpsburg in person<<
> >
> > Looks like we have a player of the "Johnny Reb" side here !!!! :-)
> >
> > Bill
>

Dar Steckelberg

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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In article <37896304...@worldnet.att.net>,

Charl...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>Having been to Gettys many times
> it's fun to see the places on the map -houses etc. and names of diff
> units etc. Not having been to Sharpsburg in person I expect to learn
> more about an interesting subject while playing a game. If you realize
> these were real events and real people it makes it hit home versus
just
> the same toy soldiers or Mech. robots on a slightly diff map.

I just have to add that the beautful map is one of the things that
really impressed me about SMG. After playing SMG for several weeks
before I went out to the actual Gettysburg battlefield for the first
time, I knew the battlefield like the back of my hand. It was a real
credit to Firaxis that they could impress this sense of familiarity
upon me through their wonderfully rendered map.

Perhaps any of the Talonsoft BG series have the same effect--I haven't
played any of them, however, nor been to any of the battlegrounds they
depict.
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James Dusek

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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In article <7mkp3p$gbd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, dste...@my-deja.com says...

> before I went out to the actual Gettysburg battlefield for the first
> time, I knew the battlefield like the back of my hand. It was a real
> credit to Firaxis that they could impress this sense of familiarity
> upon me through their wonderfully rendered map.

Seeing Firaxis is in MD, they better have an accurate map, it's
not like they don't easily have access to the battlefield. Ditto for
Antietam.


> Perhaps any of the Talonsoft BG series have the same effect--I haven't
> played any of them, however, nor been to any of the battlegrounds they
> depict.

Talsonsoft did a much better map than Firaxis did, but it's not
like they ahd to worry about rotating it. The Talonsoft map was much more
highly deailed than the SMG map, they had more terain features like the
railroad cut and he various steep cliffs that were in the area.

James Dusek

Charles Hill

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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Nothin Else!!

WLambrukos wrote:

> > Not having been to Sharpsburg in person<<
>

Charles Hill

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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That is the proper name for it.

Joe R. Shaw wrote:

> Could be worse. I had a distant cousin who I asked about our ancestor's
> serving in the Civil War. He promptly informed me that yes, one of our
> great great grandfathers did serve in the "War of Northern Aggression."
> :-)
>

> Joe

Charles Hill

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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Sort of like "Ho Chi Min City"

Bryan Corkill wrote:

> Those who win write the history (and name the battles), those who lost
> suffer rather loudly in this case. ;-)
> yours &c,
> Bryan
> Robear <rob...@home.com> wrote in message news:378A8333...@home.com...
> >
> >

> > WLambrukos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not having been to Sharpsburg in person<<
> > >
> > > Looks like we have a player of the "Johnny Reb" side here !!!! :-)
> > >
> > > Bill
> >

Robear

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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That explains why the South initiated combat. :-) (I had relatives
on both sides, as usual for an East Coast family.)

Charles Hill wrote:
>
> That is the proper name for it.
>
> Joe R. Shaw wrote:
>
> > Could be worse. I had a distant cousin who I asked about our ancestor's
> > serving in the Civil War. He promptly informed me that yes, one of our
> > great great grandfathers did serve in the "War of Northern Aggression."
> > :-)
> >
> > Joe
> >

> > WLambrukos wrote:
> >
> > > > Not having been to Sharpsburg in person<<
> > >
> > > Looks like we have a player of the "Johnny Reb" side here !!!! :-)
> > >
> > > Bill

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Charles Hill

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Jul 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/17/99
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Well going by that logic we started the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Robear

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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??? The Japanese fired the first shots, just as Ft. Sumter was fired on
by Confederate troops. Not sure of your point...

Charles Hill

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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Actually we fired the first shots.A Navy destroyer fired on a Jap midget sub before
the planes ever appeared.

Bill Lambrukos

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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>>Actually we fired the first shots.A Navy destroyer fired on a Jap midget
sub before
the planes ever appeared.<<

Using that logic, didn't the Japanese sink a US ship in China long before
this took place ?

Bill

not_here

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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This is the wrong group for it and I'll say no more, but...

The first Allied shots of the war were fired by the British at the Japanese
invasion fleet (who of course returned fire) anchored off Khota Baru on the
east coast of Malaya at 2200 December 7th, which was 0410 hours Hawaii time
(the 7th). Australian Hudsons bombed and strafed the landing craft. The
Japanese began going ashore at 0030 on the 8th, resisted by Indian troops on
the beach, an hour and a quarter before the bombs began falling on Pearl.

We (the US) did not bomb any of the Japanese forts in the 1840s. The British
fired on Kagoshima in 1863. They were there to collect indemnities owed them
by Satsuma after the celebrated Richardson incident, and were anchored in
the bay awaiting the daimio's return. The Japanese actually began shelling
the fleet with solid shot from smooth-bore muzzle-loading cannon, and the
British returned the fire, burning most of the town. The Japanese fire was
accurate, though; one shell decapitated both the Captain and the XO of the
British flagship, and the Brits ultimately withdrew. Both sides claimed
victory. One young Japanese manning the hillside guns was a Heihachiro Togo,
destined to become one of the greatest admirals of all time.

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>Yeah, but continuing that chain, didn't we bombard some of their forts
>from sea in the 1840's? :)
>
>Grifman

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