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eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 2, 2013, 3:32:58 AM4/2/13
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On 30 mrt, 08:56, <adel...@inbox.com> wrote:
> Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
> Hollywood films?
What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
their own butts.
Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
shipments - as the US did before.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
> Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
> Hollywood films?
What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
their own butts.
Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
shipments - as the US did before.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
Apr 2, 2013, 6:21:24 AM4/2/13
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In article <9d6e632f-5338-4634-aca6-
192ea7...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
says...
> > Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
> > Hollywood films?
>
> What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
> Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
> their own butts.
>
> Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
> shipments - as the US did before.
I wonder if the North Koreans have figured out what a dangerous fellow
Barack Obama is? I mean, the guy could drop an H-bomb on Pyongyang
tomorrow morning, and nobody would say boo about it. In fact, the
newspaper editorials would unanimously declare that it was, like,
totally justified.
We just had an actual *debate* in the USA over the question of whether
Obama could legally send a robot to murder an American citizen on
American soil because some non-judicial body *suspected* the murder-ee
was a terrorist. After days of hemming and hawing, the Attorney General
allowed as the answer was "no" ... uh, except in extraordinary cases.
When it takes a 13-hour filibuster in the Senate to wring an answer to
that question out of the Administration ... well, baby-faced NoKo asshat
dictators had better start wearing SPF 100,000,000 if they go outside.
--
Giftzwerg
***
"What makes an assault weapon an assault weapon? Randomly selected
cosmetic features that look scary to ignorant liberals, but have nothing
material to do with the function of the firearm. If liberals had more
sense, they would be embarrassed."
- Senator Ted Cruz
192ea7...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
says...
> > Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
> > Hollywood films?
>
> What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
> Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
> their own butts.
>
> Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
> shipments - as the US did before.
Barack Obama is? I mean, the guy could drop an H-bomb on Pyongyang
tomorrow morning, and nobody would say boo about it. In fact, the
newspaper editorials would unanimously declare that it was, like,
totally justified.
We just had an actual *debate* in the USA over the question of whether
Obama could legally send a robot to murder an American citizen on
American soil because some non-judicial body *suspected* the murder-ee
was a terrorist. After days of hemming and hawing, the Attorney General
allowed as the answer was "no" ... uh, except in extraordinary cases.
When it takes a 13-hour filibuster in the Senate to wring an answer to
that question out of the Administration ... well, baby-faced NoKo asshat
dictators had better start wearing SPF 100,000,000 if they go outside.
--
Giftzwerg
***
"What makes an assault weapon an assault weapon? Randomly selected
cosmetic features that look scary to ignorant liberals, but have nothing
material to do with the function of the firearm. If liberals had more
sense, they would be embarrassed."
- Senator Ted Cruz
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 2, 2013, 7:06:05 AM4/2/13
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On 2 apr, 12:21, Giftzwerg <giftzwerg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <9d6e632f-5338-4634-aca6-
> 192ea7a64...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, eddyster...@hotmail.com
they paint a huge drone-target on their own forehead. And once the top
dogs are permanently removed, the rest of the country will fall apart
and it'll be up to the South Koreans to clean-up the mess.
It all depends on how much the actual people in charge are removed
from reality. For all we know they get told by their generals there
are 10K rockets ready and aimed at the US. So the question is : are
they like Hitler in his bunker in 1945, moving around armies that
don't exist except on paper or is this a "send us more rice" move ?
I really don't know, but as they've employed this kind of tactic
before to get more rice, it's a definite posibility.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
> In article <9d6e632f-5338-4634-aca6-
> 192ea7a64...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, eddyster...@hotmail.com
> says...
>
> > > Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
> > > Hollywood films?
>
> > What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
> > Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
> > their own butts.
>
> > Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
> > shipments - as the US did before.
>
> I wonder if the North Koreans have figured out what a dangerous fellow
> Barack Obama is? I mean, the guy could drop an H-bomb on Pyongyang
> tomorrow morning, and nobody would say boo about it. In fact, the
> newspaper editorials would unanimously declare that it was, like,
> totally justified.
I do think they realize that if they actually start a shooting match
>
> > > Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
> > > Hollywood films?
>
> > What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
> > Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
> > their own butts.
>
> > Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
> > shipments - as the US did before.
>
> I wonder if the North Koreans have figured out what a dangerous fellow
> Barack Obama is? I mean, the guy could drop an H-bomb on Pyongyang
> tomorrow morning, and nobody would say boo about it. In fact, the
> newspaper editorials would unanimously declare that it was, like,
> totally justified.
they paint a huge drone-target on their own forehead. And once the top
dogs are permanently removed, the rest of the country will fall apart
and it'll be up to the South Koreans to clean-up the mess.
It all depends on how much the actual people in charge are removed
from reality. For all we know they get told by their generals there
are 10K rockets ready and aimed at the US. So the question is : are
they like Hitler in his bunker in 1945, moving around armies that
don't exist except on paper or is this a "send us more rice" move ?
I really don't know, but as they've employed this kind of tactic
before to get more rice, it's a definite posibility.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Vincenzo Beretta
Apr 2, 2013, 5:00:03 PM4/2/13
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"Similarly, scenes that were deemed potentially offensive to Chinese viewers
from Men in Black 3 were removed from the Chinese edition of the movie, and
in a larger example of studio caution, MGM chose to digitally alter the
nationality of the invaders in their remake of Red Dawn from Chinese to
North Korean for all editions of the movie, through fear of alienating a
potential audience."
...But we Italians get The Godfather and The Sopranos and both are megahits.
One wonders... ^^
from Men in Black 3 were removed from the Chinese edition of the movie, and
in a larger example of studio caution, MGM chose to digitally alter the
nationality of the invaders in their remake of Red Dawn from Chinese to
North Korean for all editions of the movie, through fear of alienating a
potential audience."
...But we Italians get The Godfather and The Sopranos and both are megahits.
One wonders... ^^
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Jeff Urs
Apr 3, 2013, 12:37:32 AM4/3/13
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On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:16:00 AM UTC-4, ade...@inbox.com wrote:
> A culture that cannot laugh at itself reminds me of, hey wait, wasn't the
> PRC supposed to have the largest Moslem population on Earth or something?
That was India, but Indonesia has since passed them.
--
Jeff
> A culture that cannot laugh at itself reminds me of, hey wait, wasn't the
> PRC supposed to have the largest Moslem population on Earth or something?
That was India, but Indonesia has since passed them.
--
Jeff
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 4, 2013, 3:20:13 AM4/4/13
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Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 4, 2013, 3:22:41 AM4/4/13
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On 2 apr, 23:00, "Vincenzo Beretta" <vincenzo.bere...@fastwebnet.it>
wrote:
> ...But we Italians get The Godfather and The Sopranos and both are megahits.
> One wonders... ^^
Maybe you guys like being portrayed as the cool macho bad guys - how's
that for a stereotype ? :)
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
wrote:
> "Similarly, scenes that were deemed potentially offensive to Chinese viewers
> from Men in Black 3 were removed from the Chinese edition of the movie, and
> in a larger example of studio caution, MGM chose to digitally alter the
> nationality of the invaders in their remake of Red Dawn from Chinese to
> North Korean for all editions of the movie, through fear of alienating a
> potential audience."
Not pissing off 1 billion potential viewers is a business decision.
> from Men in Black 3 were removed from the Chinese edition of the movie, and
> in a larger example of studio caution, MGM chose to digitally alter the
> nationality of the invaders in their remake of Red Dawn from Chinese to
> North Korean for all editions of the movie, through fear of alienating a
> potential audience."
> ...But we Italians get The Godfather and The Sopranos and both are megahits.
> One wonders... ^^
that for a stereotype ? :)
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Mike Kreuzer
Apr 4, 2013, 5:35:22 AM4/4/13
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On 2/04/2013 9:21 PM, Giftzwerg wrote:
> In article <9d6e632f-5338-4634-aca6-
> 192ea7...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
> says...
>
>>> Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
>>> Hollywood films?
>>
>> What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
>> Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
>> their own butts.
>>
>> Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
>> shipments - as the US did before.
>
> I wonder if the North Koreans have figured out what a dangerous fellow
> Barack Obama is? I mean, the guy could drop an H-bomb on Pyongyang
> tomorrow morning, and nobody would say boo about it. In fact, the
> newspaper editorials would unanimously declare that it was, like,
> totally justified.
>
[snip]
> In article <9d6e632f-5338-4634-aca6-
> 192ea7...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com
> says...
>
>>> Came across this comment, and wondered if Beloved Leader Kim is a fan of
>>> Hollywood films?
>>
>> What I think is happening is that famine is about to strike North
>> Korea again and they want an external threat in place in order to save
>> their own butts.
>>
>> Defusing the situation may be as easy as sending a couple of rice
>> shipments - as the US did before.
>
> I wonder if the North Koreans have figured out what a dangerous fellow
> Barack Obama is? I mean, the guy could drop an H-bomb on Pyongyang
> tomorrow morning, and nobody would say boo about it. In fact, the
> newspaper editorials would unanimously declare that it was, like,
> totally justified.
>
I'm thinking at the point when someone says they have nukes, and they
saying they're going to nuke you, and they set up a launcher by the sea
in slow motion and say this is it, here we go, this is the nuke we're
going to nuke you with... nobody's going to bat an eyelid if a few laser
guided bombs rained down on it & scattered their radioactive asses all
over the people's democratic rubble.
Presumably that's what their (I'm guessing) Chinese breakaway faction
paymasters are angling for. War with the Yanquis before they become
irrelevant. Not how I was expecting 2013 to play out. Weird.
Regards,
Mike Kreuzer
www.mikekreuzer.com
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Vincenzo Beretta
Apr 4, 2013, 5:03:08 PM4/4/13
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> Maybe you guys like being portrayed as the cool macho bad guys
> - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
I found funny when the Sopranos caused a ruckus in the States for
> - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
"stereotyping" while, at the same time, they were among the most watched
show in Italy.
There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
"Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 5, 2013, 3:11:55 AM4/5/13
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On 4 apr, 23:03, "Vincenzo Beretta" <vincenzo.bere...@fastwebnet.it>
wrote:
deep down underneath a lot of Italians like his macho coolness -
stereotypes must have a basis in reality somewhere or they would never
have gotten a wide acceptance.
> There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
Whereas in videogames Italian plumber characters usually run around
franctically, not doing much of anything except collecting money -
mirroring Italian society perfectly :)
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
wrote:
> > Maybe you guys like being portrayed as the cool macho bad guys
> > - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
>
> I found funny when the Sopranos caused a ruckus in the States for
> "stereotyping" while, at the same time, they were among the most watched
> show in Italy.
It's my theory as to why Berlusconi is still getting so many votes :
> > - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
>
> I found funny when the Sopranos caused a ruckus in the States for
> "stereotyping" while, at the same time, they were among the most watched
> show in Italy.
deep down underneath a lot of Italians like his macho coolness -
stereotypes must have a basis in reality somewhere or they would never
have gotten a wide acceptance.
> There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
franctically, not doing much of anything except collecting money -
mirroring Italian society perfectly :)
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
Apr 5, 2013, 5:06:58 AM4/5/13
to
In article <kjkpls$pum$1...@dont-email.me>, vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it
says...
Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
Rocky Balboa?
says...
Rocky Balboa?
Holdit
Apr 5, 2013, 5:32:27 AM4/5/13
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In article <MPG.2bc85e3ed...@news-east.giganews.com>,
giftzw...@hotmail.com says...
:-)
Holdit
--
"The British always say we Germans have no sense of humour. I don't
think that's funny."
(Henning Wehn)
giftzw...@hotmail.com says...
> In article <kjkpls$pum$1...@dont-email.me>, vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it
> says...
>
> > > Maybe you guys like being portrayed as the cool macho bad guys
> > > - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
> >
> > I found funny when the Sopranos caused a ruckus in the States for
> > "stereotyping" while, at the same time, they were among the most watched
> > show in Italy.
> >
> > There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
>
> Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
>
> Rocky Balboa?
>
>
Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
> says...
>
> > > Maybe you guys like being portrayed as the cool macho bad guys
> > > - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
> >
> > I found funny when the Sopranos caused a ruckus in the States for
> > "stereotyping" while, at the same time, they were among the most watched
> > show in Italy.
> >
> > There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
>
> Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
>
> Rocky Balboa?
>
>
:-)
Holdit
--
"The British always say we Germans have no sense of humour. I don't
think that's funny."
(Henning Wehn)
Holdit
Apr 5, 2013, 5:35:40 AM4/5/13
to
In article <MPG.2bc8aa842...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
holdit...@indigoTHE.ieCAPS says...
etc
holdit...@indigoTHE.ieCAPS says...
> In article <MPG.2bc85e3ed...@news-east.giganews.com>,
> giftzw...@hotmail.com says...
> > In article <kjkpls$pum$1...@dont-email.me>, vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it
> > says...
> >
> > > > Maybe you guys like being portrayed as the cool macho bad guys
> > > > - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
> > >
> > > I found funny when the Sopranos caused a ruckus in the States for
> > > "stereotyping" while, at the same time, they were among the most watched
> > > show in Italy.
> > >
> > > There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> > > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
> >
> > Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
> >
> > Rocky Balboa?
> >
> >
>
> Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
>
The Cammereris and Castorinis...
> giftzw...@hotmail.com says...
> > In article <kjkpls$pum$1...@dont-email.me>, vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it
> > says...
> >
> > > > Maybe you guys like being portrayed as the cool macho bad guys
> > > > - how's that for a stereotype ? :)
> > >
> > > I found funny when the Sopranos caused a ruckus in the States for
> > > "stereotyping" while, at the same time, they were among the most watched
> > > show in Italy.
> > >
> > > There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> > > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
> >
> > Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
> >
> > Rocky Balboa?
> >
> >
>
> Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
>
etc
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 5, 2013, 5:43:24 AM4/5/13
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On 5 apr, 11:35, Holdit <holditREM...@indigoTHE.ieCAPS> wrote:
>
> The Cammereris and Castorinis...
The Zucchini Brothers from The Muppet Show :)
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
>
> The Cammereris and Castorinis...
The Zucchini Brothers from The Muppet Show :)
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Giftzwerg
Apr 5, 2013, 6:46:56 AM4/5/13
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> > > There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> > > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
> >
> > Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
> >
> > Rocky Balboa?
> >
> >
>
> Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
Cops, though. Tokens!
> > > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
> >
> > Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
> >
> > Rocky Balboa?
> >
> >
>
> Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
I did forget Pinky Tuscadero, though.
Giftzwerg
Apr 5, 2013, 6:51:37 AM4/5/13
to
In article <68a7d585-ebf2-46a3-9f7b-6963f53a2487
@a3g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com says...
> > The Cammereris and Castorinis...
>
> The Zucchini Brothers from The Muppet Show :)
Tony Banta. Laverne Defazio. Tony Micelli.
@a3g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, eddys...@hotmail.com says...
> > The Cammereris and Castorinis...
>
> The Zucchini Brothers from The Muppet Show :)
Mike Kreuzer
Apr 5, 2013, 6:15:23 PM4/5/13
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On 5/04/2013 12:52 AM, ade...@inbox.com wrote:
> I think the PRC might be pissed at some of the radioactive contamination of
> their pond. Then again, having seen those pictures of their green sludge
> river, it might just go unnoticed...
>
Exactly, all the lead in the water & in the kids toys - suddenly their
plan makes sense!
Regards,
Mike Kreuzer
www.mikekreuzer.com
> their pond. Then again, having seen those pictures of their green sludge
> river, it might just go unnoticed...
>
Exactly, all the lead in the water & in the kids toys - suddenly their
plan makes sense!
Regards,
Mike Kreuzer
www.mikekreuzer.com
Holdit
Apr 6, 2013, 4:31:13 AM4/6/13
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In article <MPG.2bc875acb...@news-east.giganews.com>,
giftzw...@hotmail.com says...
Oh wait...he was real. :-)
Holdit
--
--
"I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others
of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry."
- Thucydides (Peloponnesian War)
"I've just jazzed mine up a little."
- Spike Milligan (World War 2)
giftzw...@hotmail.com says...
>
> In article <MPG.2bc8aa842...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
> holdit...@indigoTHE.ieCAPS says...
>
> > > > There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> > > > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > > > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > > > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
> > >
> > > Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
> > >
> > > Rocky Balboa?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
>
> Cops, though. Tokens!
>
Joseph Pistone?
> In article <MPG.2bc8aa842...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
> holdit...@indigoTHE.ieCAPS says...
>
> > > > There is only one thing that miffs me: when a TV show has a chatacter named
> > > > "Anthony Pazzaglia" or such you can be sure that the Mafiosi are involved.
> > > > In the best of cases he is the italo-american cop created for "balance and
> > > > political correctness". Either way, it is a spoiler ^^
> > >
> > > Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
> > >
> > > Rocky Balboa?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
>
> Cops, though. Tokens!
>
Oh wait...he was real. :-)
Holdit
--
--
"I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others
of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry."
- Thucydides (Peloponnesian War)
"I've just jazzed mine up a little."
- Spike Milligan (World War 2)
Vincenzo Beretta
Apr 15, 2013, 10:52:15 AM4/15/13
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> Ray Barone? Arthur Fonzarelli? Joey Tribbiani? George Costanza?
> Rocky Balboa?
Those were the days...
> Rocky Balboa?
Vincenzo Beretta
Apr 15, 2013, 10:57:20 AM4/15/13
to
> Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
> :-)
Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella Bonasera"
played by a Greek actress, and the all-American Danny Messer played by
Carmine Giovinazzo (that's the perfect mafioso name, BTW, for those of you
writing a novel). TV Shows reality sometimes escapes me...
> :-)
Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella Bonasera"
played by a Greek actress, and the all-American Danny Messer played by
Carmine Giovinazzo (that's the perfect mafioso name, BTW, for those of you
writing a novel). TV Shows reality sometimes escapes me...
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 15, 2013, 11:25:36 AM4/15/13
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On 15 apr, 16:57, "Vincenzo Beretta" <vincenzo.bere...@fastwebnet.it>
wrote:
How about this one : every time some Amish people have to appear in a
movie they hire some Dutch speaking actors and have them talk 21st
century Dutch.
This totally wrecks the willing suspension of disbelief because IRL
the Amish do not speak Dutch, they speak German (sort of) - the
confusion probably arose because the German word for "German" is
Deutsch, which sounds an awful lot like the word Dutch to untrained
ears
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
wrote:
movie they hire some Dutch speaking actors and have them talk 21st
century Dutch.
This totally wrecks the willing suspension of disbelief because IRL
the Amish do not speak Dutch, they speak German (sort of) - the
confusion probably arose because the German word for "German" is
Deutsch, which sounds an awful lot like the word Dutch to untrained
ears
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Michael
Apr 19, 2013, 2:55:15 PM4/19/13
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Am 4/15/2013 5:25 PM, schrieb eddys...@hotmail.com:
...
> How about this one : every time some Amish people have to appear in a
> movie they hire some Dutch speaking actors and have them talk 21st
> century Dutch.
>
> This totally wrecks the willing suspension of disbelief because IRL
> the Amish do not speak Dutch, they speak German (sort of)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch
...
> How about this one : every time some Amish people have to appear in a
> movie they hire some Dutch speaking actors and have them talk 21st
> century Dutch.
>
> This totally wrecks the willing suspension of disbelief because IRL
> the Amish do not speak Dutch, they speak German (sort of)
> - the
> confusion probably arose because the German word for "German" is
> Deutsch, which sounds an awful lot like the word Dutch to untrained
Well as both words share the same origin and meant the people living
around the river Rhine (regardless if in nowadays Netherlands, Germany
or Switzerland) it�s no wonder they sound alike. Only after the Peace of
Westphalia and the Netherlands leaving the HRE it became common to use
"dutch" only for the dutch and "german" for germans.
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 19, 2013, 7:51:04 PM4/19/13
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On 19 apr, 20:55, Michael <ConjurerDra...@t-online.de> wrote:
easily hear the difference between Austrian, Swiss, High and platt
Deutsch
> nly after the Peace of
> Westphalia and the Netherlands leaving the HRE it became common to use
> "dutch" only for the dutch and "german" for germans.
The Dutch word for Dutch (language) is "Nederlands", the cognate
"diets" does exist but is *very* old-fashioned and means "the people",
not the language. It would be more correct if Anglo's started calling
the language "Netherlandic"
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
> Am 4/15/2013 5:25 PM, schrieb eddyster...@hotmail.com:
> ...
>
> > How about this one : every time some Amish people have to appear in a
> > movie they hire some Dutch speaking actors and have them talk 21st
> > century Dutch.
>
> > This totally wrecks the willing suspension of disbelief because IRL
> > the Amish do not speak Dutch, they speak German (sort of)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch
>
> > - the
> > confusion probably arose because the German word for "German" is
> > Deutsch, which sounds an awful lot like the word Dutch to untrained
> > ears.
>
> Well as both words share the same origin and meant the people living
> around the river Rhine (regardless if in nowadays Netherlands, Germany
> or Switzerland) it´s no wonder they sound alike.
Well, to my somewhat trained ears we do *not* sound alike - I can even
> ...
>
> > How about this one : every time some Amish people have to appear in a
> > movie they hire some Dutch speaking actors and have them talk 21st
> > century Dutch.
>
> > This totally wrecks the willing suspension of disbelief because IRL
> > the Amish do not speak Dutch, they speak German (sort of)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch
>
> > - the
> > confusion probably arose because the German word for "German" is
> > Deutsch, which sounds an awful lot like the word Dutch to untrained
> > ears.
>
> Well as both words share the same origin and meant the people living
> around the river Rhine (regardless if in nowadays Netherlands, Germany
> or Switzerland) it´s no wonder they sound alike.
easily hear the difference between Austrian, Swiss, High and platt
Deutsch
> nly after the Peace of
> Westphalia and the Netherlands leaving the HRE it became common to use
> "dutch" only for the dutch and "german" for germans.
"diets" does exist but is *very* old-fashioned and means "the people",
not the language. It would be more correct if Anglo's started calling
the language "Netherlandic"
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Michael
Apr 20, 2013, 11:58:07 AM4/20/13
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Am 4/20/2013 1:51 AM, schrieb eddys...@hotmail.com:
...
they share a common origin was what I meant.
>> nly after the Peace of
>> Westphalia and the Netherlands leaving the HRE it became common to use
>> "dutch" only for the dutch and "german" for germans.
>
> The Dutch word for Dutch (language) is "Nederlands", the cognate
> "diets" does exist but is *very* old-fashioned and means "the people",
> not the language. It would be more correct if Anglo's started calling
> the language "Netherlandic"
To be really correct the Netherlands should stop calling themselves
Netherlands after the southern Netherlands became Belgium, Luxembourg
and part of the department Nord-Pas-de-Calais. ;-)
...
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Dutch
>>
>>> - the
>>> confusion probably arose because the German word for "German" is
>>> Deutsch, which sounds an awful lot like the word Dutch to untrained
>>> ears.
>>
>> Well as both words share the same origin and meant the people living
>> around the river Rhine (regardless if in nowadays Netherlands, Germany
>> or Switzerland) it愀 no wonder they sound alike.
>>
>>> - the
>>> confusion probably arose because the German word for "German" is
>>> Deutsch, which sounds an awful lot like the word Dutch to untrained
>>> ears.
>>
>> Well as both words share the same origin and meant the people living
>> around the river Rhine (regardless if in nowadays Netherlands, Germany
>
> Well, to my somewhat trained ears we do *not* sound alike - I can even
> easily hear the difference between Austrian, Swiss, High and platt
> Deutsch
It愀 no wonder that the *words* dutch and deutsch sound alike because
> Well, to my somewhat trained ears we do *not* sound alike - I can even
> easily hear the difference between Austrian, Swiss, High and platt
> Deutsch
they share a common origin was what I meant.
>> nly after the Peace of
>> Westphalia and the Netherlands leaving the HRE it became common to use
>> "dutch" only for the dutch and "german" for germans.
>
> The Dutch word for Dutch (language) is "Nederlands", the cognate
> "diets" does exist but is *very* old-fashioned and means "the people",
> not the language. It would be more correct if Anglo's started calling
> the language "Netherlandic"
Netherlands after the southern Netherlands became Belgium, Luxembourg
and part of the department Nord-Pas-de-Calais. ;-)
eddys...@hotmail.com
Apr 22, 2013, 4:52:12 AM4/22/13
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On 20 apr, 17:58, Michael <ConjurerDra...@t-online.de> wrote:
> To be really correct the Netherlands should stop calling themselves
> Netherlands after the southern Netherlands became Belgium, Luxembourg
> and part of the department Nord-Pas-de-Calais. ;-)
It was always more a geographical denomination than a political one.
> To be really correct the Netherlands should stop calling themselves
> Netherlands after the southern Netherlands became Belgium, Luxembourg
> and part of the department Nord-Pas-de-Calais. ;-)
And these shift with time.
"Belgium" under Caesar refered to a stretch of Gallic territory from
Reims (France) to Trier (Germany) and had almost nothing to do with
current day Belgium which is more to the north.
Calling "Brabant" a part of "Flanders" would have been fighting words
back in the 10th century, when it refered to a stretch of coastal land
along the English Channel from Boulogne (France) to Walcheren (The
Netherlands)
But things change and what matters is how the people call themselves,
which in the case of the Dutch is "Netherlanders" who live in
"Netherland" - the word "Dutch" is an anglo exclusive which neither
they nor their neighbours use to denote them.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Graham Thurlwell
Apr 27, 2013, 10:36:45 AM4/27/13
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On the 15 Apr 2013, "Vincenzo Beretta"
Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
NCIS is a good one, it has Doctor Donald 'Ducky' Mallard (a Scot
played by David McCallum, an actual Scot) and then restores the
nationality-mismatch balance with the allegedly Italian-American
Anthony 'Tony' DiNozzo (played by Michael Weatherly) and Israeli Ziva
David (played by Cote de Pablo, a Chilean).
--
Jades' First Encounters Site - http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm
The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web.
nos...@jades.org /is/ a real email address!
<vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:
>> Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
>> :-)
> Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella Bonasera"
> played by a Greek actress
To be fair though, while the character's /name/ isn't particularly
>> Columbo...Tony Petrocelli...Frank Furillo...
>> :-)
> Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella Bonasera"
> played by a Greek actress
Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
NCIS is a good one, it has Doctor Donald 'Ducky' Mallard (a Scot
played by David McCallum, an actual Scot) and then restores the
nationality-mismatch balance with the allegedly Italian-American
Anthony 'Tony' DiNozzo (played by Michael Weatherly) and Israeli Ziva
David (played by Cote de Pablo, a Chilean).
--
Jades' First Encounters Site - http://www.jades.org/ffe.htm
The best Frontier: First Encounters site on the Web.
nos...@jades.org /is/ a real email address!
Vincenzo Beretta
Apr 30, 2013, 7:14:17 PM4/30/13
to
>> Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella
>> Bonasera" played by a Greek actress
> To be fair though, while the character's /name/ isn't particularly
> Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
Er, no: she is supposed to be Italo-American in the show. BTW, she really
>> Bonasera" played by a Greek actress
> To be fair though, while the character's /name/ isn't particularly
> Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
has "Greek" features.
Another common misconception is that only Northern Italians are blond. I had
a girlfriend from Calabria who was blonde with green eyes. So were her
brother, mother and grandfather. It is called "A number of centuries of
Norman domination in Southern Italy".
Graham Thurlwell
May 1, 2013, 3:58:15 PM5/1/13
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On the 1 May 2013, "Vincenzo Beretta" <vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it>
wrote:
>>> Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella
>>> Bonasera" played by a Greek actress
>> To be fair though, while the character's /name/ isn't particularly
>> Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
> Er, no: she is supposed to be Italo-American in the show.
The writers made sure to include Greek references every three
episodes. She's explicitly stated to be Greek, and there's even a
season-long plot arc about stolen ancient Greek coins which culminates
in her swanning off to Greece despite having previously been
warned-off the case by her boss (Mac Taylor, who is a former marine).
To be fair, the Wikipedia entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Bonasera does state she's
half-Greek half-Italian but I can't recall ever seeing any references
to her Italian side in the show.
wrote:
>>> Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella
>>> Bonasera" played by a Greek actress
>> To be fair though, while the character's /name/ isn't particularly
>> Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
> Er, no: she is supposed to be Italo-American in the show.
episodes. She's explicitly stated to be Greek, and there's even a
season-long plot arc about stolen ancient Greek coins which culminates
in her swanning off to Greece despite having previously been
warned-off the case by her boss (Mac Taylor, who is a former marine).
To be fair, the Wikipedia entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Bonasera does state she's
half-Greek half-Italian but I can't recall ever seeing any references
to her Italian side in the show.
Holdit
May 3, 2013, 5:22:51 AM5/3/13
to
In article <klpj22$a1a$1...@dont-email.me>, vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it
says...
I remember reading in Spike Milligan's memoirs that at one point in the
North African campaign in a Tunisian village called "MacDonald", where
the inhabitants all had red hair...
Of course, you never knew which bits to take seriously. Like his mother
sending him so many holy medals in the post that we was using them as
currency with the local arabs.
Holdit
says...
North African campaign in a Tunisian village called "MacDonald", where
the inhabitants all had red hair...
Of course, you never knew which bits to take seriously. Like his mother
sending him so many holy medals in the post that we was using them as
currency with the local arabs.
Holdit
eddys...@hotmail.com
May 3, 2013, 5:54:07 AM5/3/13
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On 3 mei, 11:22, Holdit <holditREM...@indigoTHE.ieCAPS> wrote:
>
> I remember reading in Spike Milligan's memoirs that at one point in the
> North African campaign in a Tunisian village called "MacDonald", where
> the inhabitants all had red hair...
Yeah - right - I think they lived right next to that Indian tribe who
>
> I remember reading in Spike Milligan's memoirs that at one point in the
> North African campaign in a Tunisian village called "MacDonald", where
> the inhabitants all had red hair...
spoke Welsh :)
> Of course, you never knew which bits to take seriously. Like his mother
> sending him so many holy medals in the post that we was using them as
> currency with the local arabs.
[I once travelled around Greece with my blood group card acting as an
International Student Card to get a 50% discount in all musea - it
worked :) ]
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
Miowarra Tomokatu (aka Tomo)
May 3, 2013, 5:57:01 PM5/3/13
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On Fri, 3 May 2013 10:22:51 +0100, Holdit <holdit...@indigoTHE.ieCAPS> wrote:
>In article <klpj22$a1a$1...@dont-email.me>, vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it
>says...
>> >> Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella
>> >> Bonasera" played by a Greek actress
>>
>> > To be fair though, while the character's /name/ isn't particularly
>> > Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
>>
>> Er, no: she is supposed to be Italo-American in the show. BTW, she really
>> has "Greek" features.
>>
>> Another common misconception is that only Northern Italians are blond. I had
>> a girlfriend from Calabria who was blonde with green eyes. So were her
>> brother, mother and grandfather. It is called "A number of centuries of
>> Norman domination in Southern Italy".
>>
>>
>I remember reading in Spike Milligan's memoirs that at one point in the
>North African campaign in a Tunisian village called "MacDonald", where
>the inhabitants all had red hair...
>
>Of course, you never knew which bits to take seriously. Like his mother
>sending him so many holy medals in the post that we was using them as
>currency with the local arabs.
>
>Holdit
British troops in the Desert used to soak the labels off jam tins and pass them to the locals as British pound notes.
>In article <klpj22$a1a$1...@dont-email.me>, vincenzo...@fastwebnet.it
>says...
>> >> Ah, yup, how could I forget about it? In CSI NY you have "Stella
>> >> Bonasera" played by a Greek actress
>>
>> > To be fair though, while the character's /name/ isn't particularly
>> > Greek, Bonasera is an actual Greek and speaks it too.
>>
>> Er, no: she is supposed to be Italo-American in the show. BTW, she really
>> has "Greek" features.
>>
>> Another common misconception is that only Northern Italians are blond. I had
>> a girlfriend from Calabria who was blonde with green eyes. So were her
>> brother, mother and grandfather. It is called "A number of centuries of
>> Norman domination in Southern Italy".
>>
>>
>I remember reading in Spike Milligan's memoirs that at one point in the
>North African campaign in a Tunisian village called "MacDonald", where
>the inhabitants all had red hair...
>
>Of course, you never knew which bits to take seriously. Like his mother
>sending him so many holy medals in the post that we was using them as
>currency with the local arabs.
>
>Holdit
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