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meatnub  
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 More options May 14, 3:14 pm
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From: meatnub <meat...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:14:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 14 2008 3:14 pm
Subject: Mass Effect by Bioware
So is anyone looking forward to this game? I just found out about it
today.

Should we expect another buggy RPG from Bioware? Or something
revolutionary and fun.

I'm intrigued by the space element....


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From: NFLed <NF...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 14 2008 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware
On May 14, 12:14 pm, meatnub <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So is anyone looking forward to this game? I just found out about it
> today.

> Should we expect another buggy RPG from Bioware? Or something
> revolutionary and fun.

> I'm intrigued by the space element....

Not buggy, Bioware's other software is not buggy (compared to the
average high profile PC game).

I played ME on the 360 and it was great.


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Wolfing  
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 More options May 14, 5:19 pm
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From: Wolfing <wolfi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 14 2008 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware
On May 14, 3:14 pm, meatnub <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So is anyone looking forward to this game? I just found out about it
> today.

> Should we expect another buggy RPG from Bioware? Or something
> revolutionary and fun.

> I'm intrigued by the space element....

Bioware buggy? I think you're thinking of another company.  So far I
haven't experienced one bug myself from any Bioware product I've
played in any platform. And they're certainly not known for being
particularly buggy that I know of.
In any case, it being a console port, I'm not too enthusiastic about
it, but I'll check it out.

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Master Baiter  
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 More options May 14, 10:47 pm
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From: "Master Baiter" <mas...@baiter.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:47:05 +0800
Local: Wed, May 14 2008 10:47 pm
Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware

"Wolfing" <wolfi...@gmail.com>
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> On May 14, 3:14 pm, meatnub <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So is anyone looking forward to this game? I just found out about it
>> today.

>> Should we expect another buggy RPG from Bioware? Or something
>> revolutionary and fun.

>> I'm intrigued by the space element....

> Bioware buggy? I think you're thinking of another company.  So far I
> haven't experienced one bug myself from any Bioware product I've
> played in any platform. And they're certainly not known for being
> particularly buggy that I know of.
> In any case, it being a console port, I'm not too enthusiastic about
> it, but I'll check it out.

Well, to be fair, Mass Effect _IS_ bugged, at least the XBox360 version I
played contains some bug, not big deals game stopping bugs, but ittitating
nontheless.

For 1, when you are on the Star Map Control platform of the Normandy, if you
turn around quickly while closing the star map, you could get stucked
outside of the platform (magically translated outside the edge of the
platform, into a non-movable area), resulting a situation where your only
solution is to quit the game and lose any unsaved progress.

Another more deadly bug, is that if you save your game while in an elevator
in one of the planet (forgot the name already), and quit the game while in
the elevator, your save will be corrupted and upon loading the save, you'll
be trapt in the elevator forever. If you do not have an earlier save (lets
pray you DO save every 5 minutes) in another slot, the result will be
Re-Starting the game from squre one.

there are many more bugs that escaped my memory at the moment, since I have
stopped playing if for months.

so, don't be so sure about what you haven't set your claws on, pal, even if
it's bretherens have not suffered from any of the flaws.


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Master Baiter  
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 More options May 14, 10:51 pm
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From: "Master Baiter" <mas...@baiter.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:51:52 +0800
Local: Wed, May 14 2008 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware

"meatnub" <meat...@gmail.com>
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> So is anyone looking forward to this game? I just found out about it
> today.

> Should we expect another buggy RPG from Bioware? Or something
> revolutionary and fun.

> I'm intrigued by the space element....

you can try looking at the reviews for the XBox360 version to get an idea of
how it is. It's not revolutionary, but it's on par with other Bioware
products. A little buggy, which I would bet were ironed out for the PC
version release. I'd say it's  KoTOR sans the Force, and much better
graphics, and a lot of shooting.

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Flo 'Irian' Schaetz  
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 More options May 15, 3:26 am
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From: Flo 'Irian' Schaetz <ir...@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:26:03 +0200
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 3:26 am
Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware
And thus spoke Master Baiter...

> I'd say it's  KoTOR sans the Force

Isn't there some kind of hard to use PSI-thingy, which is essentially
the same as the force?

Flo


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Ceowulf  
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 More options May 15, 5:09 am
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From: Ceowulf <non...@toknow.askifyoudo>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:09:41 +0800
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Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware

Flo 'Irian' Schaetz wrote:
> And thus spoke Master Baiter...

>> I'd say it's  KoTOR sans the Force

> Isn't there some kind of hard to use PSI-thingy, which is essentially
> the same as the force?

> Flo

Sure is, its a good game. I've yet to complete it, but I one day will.

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Werner Spahl  
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 More options May 15, 9:09 am
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From: Werner Spahl <sp...@cup.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:09:44 +0200
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Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware

On Thu, 15 May 2008, Master Baiter wrote:
> I'd say it's KoTOR sans the Force, and much better graphics, and a lot
> of shooting.

Speaking of which, I tried KoTOR recently and stopped right after becoming
a Jedi because the combat is so clunky with pure stat based fighting which
ends up with e.g blaster duells where enemies fire right into the ground
at targets only meters apart which looks absolutely stupid. I reinstalled
the old Jedi Academy in between and had a blast actually fighting myself
again. So is Mass Effect combat like KoTOR or hybrid like e.g. Bloodlines?

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Wolfing  
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 More options May 15, 9:51 am
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From: Wolfing <wolfi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 06:51:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware
On May 15, 9:09 am, Werner Spahl <sp...@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2008, Master Baiter wrote:
> > I'd say it's KoTOR sans the Force, and much better graphics, and a lot
> > of shooting.

> Speaking of which, I tried KoTOR recently and stopped right after becoming
> a Jedi because the combat is so clunky with pure stat based fighting which
> ends up with e.g blaster duells where enemies fire right into the ground
> at targets only meters apart which looks absolutely stupid. I reinstalled
> the old Jedi Academy in between and had a blast actually fighting myself
> again. So is Mass Effect combat like KoTOR or hybrid like e.g. Bloodlines?

For each its own. That's the reason why I *liked* KoToR. In a real
RPG, stats should be everything, as they were in KoToR. Problem is
that maybe present and future, in which there's almost no skill needed
to fire a pistol or a blaster, is not the best setting for pure RPGs,
not like medieval times in which, even if you were right next to me
with a sword in hand, you would easily 'miss' me.

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Paul Murray  
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 More options May 15, 9:51 am
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From: Paul Murray <p...@murray.net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:51:28 GMT
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Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware
On 2008-05-15, Werner Spahl <sp...@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2008, Master Baiter wrote:
>> I'd say it's KoTOR sans the Force, and much better graphics, and a lot
>> of shooting.
> Speaking of which, I tried KoTOR recently and stopped right after becoming
> a Jedi because the combat is so clunky with pure stat based fighting which
> ends up with e.g blaster duells where enemies fire right into the ground
> at targets only meters apart which looks absolutely stupid. I reinstalled
> the old Jedi Academy in between and had a blast actually fighting myself
> again. So is Mass Effect combat like KoTOR or hybrid like e.g. Bloodlines?

Mass Effect has more shooter-like combat where your own reflexes and accuracy
play a part, unlike KOTOR. (Personally I prefer the KOTOR approach)

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Werner Spahl  
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 More options May 15, 10:01 am
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From: Werner Spahl <sp...@cup.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:01:27 +0200
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 10:01 am
Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware

On Thu, 15 May 2008, Paul Murray wrote:
> Mass Effect has more shooter-like combat where your own reflexes and
> accuracy play a part, unlike KOTOR. (Personally I prefer the KOTOR

Good to hear, because I'm coming at the RPGs from the FPS direction. I
agree with the other poster that a pure stat approach may be better for
medieval settings but it really looks stupid with blaster weapons :).

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 More options May 15, 1:46 pm
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From: meatnub <meat...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Mass Effect by Bioware
On May 14, 4:01 pm, NFLed <NF...@aol.com> wrote:

> On May 14, 12:14 pm, meatnub <meat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > So is anyone looking forward to this game? I just found out about it
> > today.

> > Should we expect another buggy RPG from Bioware? Or something
> > revolutionary and fun.

> > I'm intrigued by the space element....

> Not buggy, Bioware's other software is not buggy (compared to the
> average high profile PC game).

> I played ME on the 360 and it was great.

Well I don't mean to flame Bioware for being buggy in general. I just
kind of remember not being happy with Baldur's Gate for something
buggy. So, I do retract and don't mean to say Bioware is buggy as a
whole.

Oh, this is a port? hmph


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Kyle Haight  
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