OT: Looking for Newsreader that does email
Mike S.
outbound HTML email besides Agent?
Michael Cecil
>Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
>outbound HTML email besides Agent?
I'd assume Windows Live Mail does. W7 doesn't come with it but you can do
a separate download from MS to install it.
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Michael Cecil
mac...@gmail.com
Nostromo
Domini:
>Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
>outbound HTML email besides Agent?
Nope, there are no other ones. None worth looking at anyway ;).
Tried Thunderbird...? Far more basic, but gets the job done.
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Nostromo
Toolpackinmama
> Tried Thunderbird...?
I was gonna say....
Gandalf Parker
news:lttlj59sni6nmotj8...@4ax.com:
> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
If you search I think you would have a better chance if you search for an
email program that does news. Thats actually the way they were created.
Gandalf Parker
CJM
"Mike S." <Mi...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:lttlj59sni6nmotj8...@4ax.com...
> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
Windows Live Mail - Not as bad as OE used to be either as a mail client or
news client. I use it for news...
Thunderbird - *Much* better email client, but mail support is basic - and
that is a generous assessment!
I'd stick with 2 separate clients personally, but if I had to pick one, it
would be Live Mail.
Mike S.
<cjmn...@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I'd stick with 2 separate clients personally, but if I had to pick one, it
>would be Live Mail.
I may ultimately end up using two clients but I am going to check out
the suggestions here first. Thanks to everyone that responded!
CoinSpin
> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
>
I can recommend Thunderbird. I use it for both all the time, and am
just now playing with the new version (Thunderbird 3), very cool and slick.
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~ CoinSpin
Zerotown
> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
Not a newsreader, but: I've been using the Opera browser for a few years,
wich has e-mail en newsreader facilities, besides being a very fast and
lightweight browser. (Thus, a highly recommended piece of software, but
I've become a bit of a fanboy, so my opinion is not really objective).
One minor gripe regarding the newsgroup-element: some threads
automatically unfold when you first open the group. They can be closed on
the fly by pressing Shift-leftarrow. Hopefully this gets fixed in the new
release.
Raja R Harinath
Mike S. <Mi...@nowhere.com> writes:
> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
You're probably looking for Gnus, which is bundled with Emacs.
- Hari
Anssi Saari
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:49:28 +0100, Mike S. <Mi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
>> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
>
> Not a newsreader, but: I've been using the Opera browser for a few
> years, wich has e-mail en newsreader facilities, besides being a very
> fast and lightweight browser. (Thus, a highly recommended piece of
> software, but I've become a bit of a fanboy, so my opinion is not
> really objective).
Interesting. I've been trying Opera recently, but I had a weird
problem with the email. I couldn't send any mail. No error message,
mail just sat in the Outbox. Well, turned out my settings were wrong
and it seems that after changing the settings I need to restart Opera.
And do I really have to mark messages read by hand?!? It also really
needs to have Thunderbird-style identity management. Oh, and
decoupling of the outgoing email server settings, again like TB.
Other than the read-only mail, in the browser I'm not very happy with
any of the adblocking solutions. Adblock+ with Firefox mostly just
works, I've had to allow something maybe twice in three years. I've
been using Privoxy with Opera, but it's just like it always was, it
lets too much through I don't want to see and I've had some wrong hits
too. Flashblock I got working, but there doesn't seem to be a
whitelist. Meh.
Zerotown
>
> Interesting. I've been trying Opera recently, but I had a weird
> problem with the email. I couldn't send any mail. No error message,
> mail just sat in the Outbox. Well, turned out my settings were wrong
> and it seems that after changing the settings I need to restart Opera.
Weird.. I've never experienced things like these. Setting up the client
has been very straightforward for me. This page displays the proces in
detail thought: http://www.opera.com/mail/start/
> And do I really have to mark messages read by hand?!? It also really
> needs to have Thunderbird-style identity management. Oh, and
> decoupling of the outgoing email server settings, again like TB.
Luckily, you don't need to mark messages by hand. When you click on a
mail folder, use the 'View'-button, situated on the top of the screen
and locate the setting 'Mark as read'. A drop-down list will appear
from wich you can select several options. I mark messages as read
after I've viewed them for one second.
As for identities, I manage several account from Opera. It doesn't
function the way TB does, though, so it took me a while to get used
to it. I found this page very helpful (it also explains the mark as
read stuff): http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/mail/receive/
> Other than the read-only mail, in the browser I'm not very happy with
> any of the adblocking solutions. Adblock+ with Firefox mostly just
> works, I've had to allow something maybe twice in three years. I've
> been using Privoxy with Opera, but it's just like it always was, it
> lets too much through I don't want to see and I've had some wrong hits
> too. Flashblock I got working, but there doesn't seem to be a
> whitelist. Meh.
There are several ways to optimize Opera's adblocking abilities, it
seems. Though I haven't triend them personally. Perhaps you'll find the
info on this page worthwile: http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/ad-block
mcv
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:49:28 +0100, Mike S. <Mi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
>> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
>
> Not a newsreader, but: I've been using the Opera browser for a few years,
> wich has e-mail en newsreader facilities, besides being a very fast and
> lightweight browser. (Thus, a highly recommended piece of software, but
> I've become a bit of a fanboy, so my opinion is not really objective).
I love Opera as a browser, but for a mailreader I want a bit more than
what it offers. It's fine, and it does (almost?) everything it's supposed
to do, but I want more control over how I organise my various mailboxes.
My favourite graphical mailreader so far is Mail for OS X, but one thing
that's completely missing there (as in every other mailreader I've seen
so far), is the ability to completely configure the menu on the left side,
where it shows all my mailboxes. It sorts them by account, but I want them
sorted by importance to me. But I haven't seen any mailreader that can do
that.
I don't know why this is so rare. Surely I'm not the only one with various
mail accounts, each with various mail folders for a variety of purposes?
Opera is a great browser for a power user like me, but I also need a
mailreader for power users.
mcv.
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CoinSpin
> Zerotown <info@zerotown_nospam_.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:49:28 +0100, Mike S. <Mi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
>>> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
>>>
>> Not a newsreader, but: I've been using the Opera browser for a few years,
>> wich has e-mail en newsreader facilities, besides being a very fast and
>> lightweight browser. (Thus, a highly recommended piece of software, but
>> I've become a bit of a fanboy, so my opinion is not really objective).
>>
>
> I love Opera as a browser, but for a mailreader I want a bit more than
> what it offers. It's fine, and it does (almost?) everything it's supposed
> to do, but I want more control over how I organise my various mailboxes.
>
> My favourite graphical mailreader so far is Mail for OS X, but one thing
> that's completely missing there (as in every other mailreader I've seen
> so far), is the ability to completely configure the menu on the left side,
> where it shows all my mailboxes. It sorts them by account, but I want them
> sorted by importance to me. But I haven't seen any mailreader that can do
> that.
>
> I don't know why this is so rare. Surely I'm not the only one with various
> mail accounts, each with various mail folders for a variety of purposes?
>
> Opera is a great browser for a power user like me, but I also need a
> mailreader for power users.
>
I guess I'm not exactly sure what you are looking for in the
organizational department. Do you mean you'd reorganize the accounts in
the left bar according to your own set of priorities (which I can
understand, things like "only alphabetical" sorting of folders can be
annoying)? Or do you want something that is somewhat automatic, and if
so how would your email program known what's "important" to you?
I have found that I really like the filter setup on Thunderbird, I've
got a multitude of folders set up, with filters throwing my messages
right to the correct folder. You can set up copies, moves, tags,
priority settings, there's a crazy amount of filter customization
available. I've used it for years, and just recently started playing
with the filters, and am now wondering why I hadn't done it ages ago! heh.
--
~ CoinSpin
Greg Johnson
>Zerotown <info@zerotown_nospam_.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:49:28 +0100, Mike S. <Mi...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know the names of any newsreaders that can do inbound and
>>> outbound HTML email besides Agent?
>>
>> Not a newsreader, but: I've been using the Opera browser for a few years,
>> wich has e-mail en newsreader facilities, besides being a very fast and
>> lightweight browser. (Thus, a highly recommended piece of software, but
>> I've become a bit of a fanboy, so my opinion is not really objective).
>
>I love Opera as a browser, but for a mailreader I want a bit more than
>what it offers. It's fine, and it does (almost?) everything it's supposed
>to do, but I want more control over how I organise my various mailboxes.
>
>My favourite graphical mailreader so far is Mail for OS X, but one thing
>that's completely missing there (as in every other mailreader I've seen
>so far), is the ability to completely configure the menu on the left side,
>where it shows all my mailboxes. It sorts them by account, but I want them
>sorted by importance to me. But I haven't seen any mailreader that can do
>that.
>
>I don't know why this is so rare. Surely I'm not the only one with various
>mail accounts, each with various mail folders for a variety of purposes?
Agent does that just fine, just drag the folders up and down the list
and they stay where you put them. Have you tried it yet?
Greg Johnson
wrote:
>On 02 Jan 2010 13:28:12 GMT, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, mcv wrote:
>
>>I want them
>>sorted by importance to me. But I haven't seen any mailreader that can do
>>that.
>>
>>I don't know why this is so rare. Surely I'm not the only one with various
>>mail accounts, each with various mail folders for a variety of purposes?
>
>Definitely a pet peeve of mine as well. I don't understand why that setting
>isn't customizable in many clients. Seems like a no brainer to allow a user
>selected sort.
>
>IIRC, current Agent will let you do it (as does my version). It lets you
>arrange your "desks" as you like, any order for any folder, but I don't like it
>much as a mail program. YMMV, so perhaps it will work well for you?
>
>I can't really test it out for you though, because the version of Agent I use
>for Usenet is very out-of-date (3.3). I saw no reason to buy the upgrade. ;^)
Ah, I don't have the current version either, for the same reason. But
v4.1 does it perfectly.
mcv
Not yet, but I think I will. Agent was really popular long, long ago
when I still detested anything vaguely related to graphical mailreaders
(which wasn't all that long ago, actually, but I remember Agent as
something from the '90s), but if it's still around, and it does this
well, then it just might be for me.
Thanks.