Jane's F/A-18 Graphics Problems - ATI Radeon 9700 - DirectX 9.0

[HockeyTownUSA]

Just wondering if anyone has noticed this in Jane's F/A-18 with an ATI
Radeon 9700 PRO. I installed DirectX 9.0 and used the latest 6.13.6255
Catalyst 3 drivers and the water textures are tiled, and varies the texture
on it depending on how I'm flying. Anyone know a fix for this besides going
back to DirectX 8.1?

Thanks!

[Tatsu]

I fixed it by using Omega's Drivers. Now if he can fix the 16 bit FSAA, that
guy is a god!!!

Tatsu

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[ohhh...@email.com]

I get (only over open water) the ground broken into square tiles. The
written voice chatter that appears in the upper left hand of the
monitor also appears in these tiles on the ground. Are you saying
that the Omega drivers fixed this? Or something else? I have gotten
this effect with put near every video card except the V2.

I have not had good experiences with Omega drivers in the past with my
8500 (yes, everything uninstalled, inf, oem.inf, reg cleaned out), but
others swear by them. If it fixes this JF18 problem then I may have
to revisit them with the 9500Pro.

Thanks

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:07:47 GMT, "Tatsu" <richar...@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:

[Tatsu]

Okay here is my experince with Janes F18 as far as drivers are concerned:

On the Voodoo V5 Card:
No problems with Water or FSAA. Just couldn't play the sim at a good
framerate since I was using a 800Mhz processor.

On the Nvida Ti4400 Card:
Any driver with a 40.XX you will get the "Picasso" water.
The only "fix" for this is to turn off "low level noise mapping" and
"sparkling water". Which leaves you with a 3rd grader's rendition of an
ocean.

The Nvida 30.41 drivers work perfect. Including the FSAA and Ansio. I had no
problems with fuzzy font or anything. However, I was using the Riva Tuner.

At the time I had a 1.4 Athlon and the Ti4400 video card.

On the ATI 9700 Pro Card:

Using Cat 3.0 and the Cat 3.0(a)
You get Picasso. No FSAA

Using Omega's Drivers (install right on top of the Cat 3.0s)
You DO NOT get Picasso. No FSAA

Using the hard as hell to find Leaked beta Drivers
You get Picasso, but you DO GET FSAA. However, the is some "slight" banding
in the sky. Not too bad. However, I did get bad studdering in the frame
rates, when turning on the A-A radar. This made these drivers non-playable
for me.

This is on a Athlon 2600 XP and a ATI 9700 pro card. BUT HOT DAMN! I can
finally play this sim with MAX settings including clouds. With FPS in the
30s.

So here is the dilemma and how I plan to solve it:

Staying with the Omega Drivers:
Run Janes F18 in all it's glory (Everything turned on at MAX) at 1280 x 960
resolution and 16x ansio. Very few jaggies, not bad. Outstanding frame rates
and still able to read the font. (Thank God for 20/20 vision)
Run F4 at 1600 res using Aeyes cockpits. Ansio set in the game. With frame
rates equal to the Ti4000 running at 4S-8 tap mode or better. (Very nice!)
MSFS2002 - No problems with FSAA or ansio .... Max everything... butter
smooth.

No other game I play has a FSAA problem. Quake2, Unreal 2003, America's Army
or Ghost Recon.

Should be well set for any other sim release.

Are they working on the 16 bit fix yes! For me, I am willing to sacrifice a
little eye candy to be able to play at smooth frame rates. But that's me.

I hope this helps
Tatsu

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[Chris Townsend]

I can't get FSAA to work in Flanker 2.5. Hope that doesn't mean anything
for LOMAC.

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[ETMac]

Try unchecking 'Low Level Noise Mapping' in the Graphics options. Cured the
problem for me.

WinXP Home SP1
GF3 (original 40.72)
DirectX 9

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[PAPADOC]

Make sure you arent running in a window there is a check box for it.
Also turn off use Windows GUI or some such....

PAPA DOC

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
www.papadoc.net
Loudspeaker of USS Harry Truman carrier
departing to the Persian Gulf 12/06/2002
"Peace on Earth to men of goodwill,"
"All others stand by."

Maj. Bryan Hilferty, of 10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

[Chris Townsend]

So I guess that means I should reinstall it. Actually never deleted it it
just never got reinstalled after a disastrous IBM HD failure in November.

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[Bill Ryder]

Unfortunately the new catalyst 3.1 drivers do not fix the texture problem for me so I had
to go back to the Omega 3.0 drivers.

Bugga

[Tatsu]

Did you try the alternate pixel alignment setting under capatability?
Tatsu
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[Tatsu]

Okay is there a risk taker out there???

I am curious to see if FSAA and F18 works (including Air to Air mode) using
Cat 3.1 and Direct X 8.1? My understanding is some people are using Direct
X 8.1 and Cat 3.1s, so it's possible. Anyone want to give it a shot and
report back?

Tatsu

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[Bill Ryder]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:23:35 +0000, Tatsu wrote:

> Did you try the alternate pixel alignment setting under capatability?
> Tatsu

Yes but it didn't work.

The only driver that consistently works for me is the 3.0a with the
Omegas.

I have had other funny problems when changing drivers around so I
may have some trash left lying around. So my experience may not be
generally applicable.

[Tatsu]

Okay Sorry that didn't work out for you. Lately I have been just installing
drivers right over the old drivers. Haven't had any problems doing that. Did
it with the Nvida drivers too. But your milagae may vary as you well know.

Tatsu

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