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Gabriel Knight

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Aug 18, 2008, 11:08:48 AM8/18/08
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Hi all

I am curantly playing Vampire the Masqurade Bloodlines and so far I would
class it as an adventure game, I would say a complete adventure game if it
were not for the few combat fights I have had so far - not alot so far.
There is a lot of "do this to get that" type of quests or "puzzles" and
"find this to do that" ones as well. So try this game if a bit of now and
then fighting is up your alley!

If you havnt played "Vampire the Masquerade Redemption" (the first game in
the series) you would find it very very different, lots of battle and
building your characters specs but its a very good game too if you like lots
of battles.

If the battles of Bloodlines puts you off you could enable the god cheat and
just enjoy the adventure side of things.

What do you think? Have you played this?

GK


noman

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Aug 19, 2008, 1:28:44 PM8/19/08
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:08:48 +1000, "Gabriel Knight"
<fake...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>I am curantly playing Vampire the Masqurade Bloodlines and so far I would
>class it as an adventure game, I would say a complete adventure game if it
>were not for the few combat fights I have had so far - not alot so far.
>There is a lot of "do this to get that" type of quests or "puzzles" and
>"find this to do that" ones as well. So try this game if a bit of now and
>then fighting is up your alley!

I haven't played it yet, but I heard the last third of the game
consists mostly of combat.

For adventure game fans, Planescape:Torment is still the safest RPG to
recommend. Its plot can only be rivaled by one or two adventure games.
More importantly, death doesn't matter in the game. It's hard to find
though.

Other easy recommendations are StarWars KOTOR1 and KOTOR2. Both have
combat that can be paused. Both have pretty good plot and characters.

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Noman

Matt v3.3

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Aug 19, 2008, 11:50:49 PM8/19/08
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noman typed:
RE: Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines

> I haven't played it yet, but I heard the last third of the game
> consists mostly of combat.

I have yet to play it either, but I think it definitely falls into the
RPG/FPS "hybrid" genre. Lots of games nowadays have cross-over appeal.

> For adventure game fans, Planescape:Torment is still the safest RPG
> to recommend. Its plot can only be rivaled by one or two adventure
> games. More importantly, death doesn't matter in the game. It's hard
> to find though.

Yes, yes, masterpiece! I've recommended that one here a few times but
alas it does not take :( - with due respect, some adventure gamers are
too ... shall we say, stubborn, to get past the so-called RPG tag. It
almost has more in common with interactive fiction, if you ask me. The
plot and consequences of your actions unfold entirely through written
word (not just dialog, but *description*) - the sheer depth and amount
of which puts graphic adventure games to shame.

In short, if folks are starved for quality story-telling, it does not
get any better than Planescape Torment. :)


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Richie Rich

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Aug 20, 2008, 1:14:45 PM8/20/08
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"Gabriel Knight" <fake...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> What do you think? Have you played this?
>
> GK

Yes, I have it installed right now. It is an RPG and not an Adventure game.

John Lewis

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Aug 26, 2008, 7:42:56 PM8/26/08
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:14:45 GMT, Richie Rich <NOT...@EMAIL.invalid>
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So RPGs are not adventure games? Some RPGs have better stories and
smoother continuity than many adventure games - especially the
pixel-hunting variety. After many years of computer-game playing, I
have finally learned not to put games in convenient genre-boxes. The
greatest and most-original computer games seem to me to be those that
have deliberately crossed genres.

John Lewis


Andrew Plotkin

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:53:50 PM8/26/08
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Here, John Lewis <john...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:14:45 GMT, Richie Rich <NOT...@EMAIL.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >"Gabriel Knight" <fake...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >news:48a99080$0$28217$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au:
> >
> >>
> >> What do you think? Have you played this?
> >
> >Yes, I have it installed right now. It is an RPG and not an Adventure game.
>
>
> So RPGs are not adventure games?

There are lots of games that partake of both, of course. But to me,
the *essential* RPG quality is repeating actions to gain points. The
essential adventure quality is thinking of something completely new to
do which gives a completely new result. Those qualities are completely
opposed.

(Obviously every adventure game has *some* repetitive action -- if
only walking back and forth; but that's just mechanical work to get
you to the next adventure scene. And every RPG has occasional new
stuff; but that's rewards and bonuses which serve the next round of
grinding. The question is which phase dominates the game experience.)

> Some RPGs have better stories and smoother continuity than many
> adventure games - especially the pixel-hunting variety.

You'll notice I didn't mention story in either definition. :)
Practically *all* game have stories at this point. Even match-three
games have stories grafted on. It's just not a distinguishing
characteristic.

> After many years of computer-game playing, I have finally learned
> not to put games in convenient genre-boxes.

Genres are interesting because they encapsulate not only different
modes of play, but entire lines of game history. A Myst-style
adventure game can be compared to Myst itself, and also to all the
games that followed in that tradition; it may have picked up some
mechanisms and discarded others.

But genre is not a box, because no game fits perfectly within a single
genre. (Not even Myst.)

--Z

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