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Joan Hansen

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Jul 19, 2008, 8:07:53 AM7/19/08
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Are you still playing Sherlock Holmes, Nemesis? I really am enjoying
this game. It is fascinating and not at all like the Secrete of the
Silver Earrings. I never finished that game because I found it boring.

The puzzles are something else. I really needed a walkthru at times.
The graphics are terrific.

I had downloaded Dracula. The graphics and the game play reminds of the
Nemesis. Probably will get that game next.

Hope you are enjoying Nemesis.

Joan


Mary

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Jul 19, 2008, 5:48:58 PM7/19/08
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"Joan Hansen" <us...@my.net> wrote in message
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> Are you still playing Sherlock Holmes, Nemesis? I really am enjoying
> this game. It is fascinating and not at all like the Secrete of the
> Silver Earrings. I never finished that game because I found it boring.
>
> The puzzles are something else. I really needed a walkthru at times.
> The graphics are terrific.

Hi Joan, yes, like I said, I found Nemesis was boring at the start and
didn't know if I would continue, but once I got past that part it was a lot
better. Thats why I said to you to keep going as you might think the same as
me, and it seems you did. I found it fascinating too. It was a bit different
and imaginative. I didn't care much for Silver Earrings either, but it was
OK. Nemesis is a lot better IMO. Yes, fantastic graphics. Even in the first
part of the game at the Gallery. Paintings were really beautiful. Whoever
did the artistry/graphics design in the game was really good.

> I had downloaded Dracula. The graphics and the game play reminds of the
> Nemesis. Probably will get that game next.

I don't know if I want to download Dracula demo. I bought Dracula Sanctary
and Dracula Resurrection in a 2 pack a couple a while back, but didn't care
for any of them, so if this one you are talking about is much the same as
them, I wouldn't be interested.

> Hope you are enjoying Nemesis.

I'm finished it now Joan. I really enjoyed it and could have kept going. We
haven't had too many adventure games as interesting for quite a while IMO.

Mary

Matt v3.3

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Jul 19, 2008, 10:16:59 PM7/19/08
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Mary typed:

> I don't know if I want to download Dracula demo. I bought Dracula
> Sanctary and Dracula Resurrection in a 2 pack a couple a while back,
> but didn't care for any of them, so if this one you are talking about
> is much the same as them, I wouldn't be interested.

By what I've read, completely different games by different developers.

Dracula: Resurrection/Sanctuary was first person, node-based exploring.

Dracula: Origin is third person, standard point-n-click.

Check the screenshots -
http://www.adventuregamers.com/gallery.php?id=952

However, I suspect you are talking about both games being somewhat in
the horror genre. :)

Personally, I would not write-off Origin based on that, seeing it does
not look particularly bloody or anything. (If we go by ratings, the UK
gave it a 12+ label, USA gave it 'Teen', which is to say "suitable for
ages 13 and older")

So if the kids can play it ... ;)


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Joan Hansen

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Jul 20, 2008, 6:00:24 AM7/20/08
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I know what you mean about the two earlier games. I didn't finish
either of them. This new Dracula reminds me with the graphics and the
game play of Nemesis. I never really liked Vampire movies or games
until the Canadian TV Program Blood Ties and the US program MoonLight. I
fell in love with both those Vampires. Wasn't that one guy in the Beast
Within (GK) thought to be a Vampire?

Have a great day!!!!!!


>

Paula

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Jul 21, 2008, 11:03:24 AM7/21/08
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I think I'll have to try to get Dracula Origin. I like 3rd person point
and click style best and I love the gothic, horror setting!! This looks
like a game I will like, finally.

Paula

Joan Hansen

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Jul 21, 2008, 1:21:17 PM7/21/08
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Paula, did you download the Demo? I did and did like what I played.
Problem is there is no save in the Demo. I did get to the graveyard but
when I quit I would have to start all over. I probably will get that
game after I'm done with Nemesis. Nemesis is really a great game and
the graphics look just like the lovely ones in Dracula

Joan

Mary

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Jul 21, 2008, 2:02:28 PM7/21/08
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> Mary typed:
> > I don't know if I want to download Dracula demo. I bought Dracula
> > Sanctary and Dracula Resurrection in a 2 pack a couple a while back,
> > but didn't care for any of them, so if this one you are talking about
> > is much the same as them, I wouldn't be interested.
>
> By what I've read, completely different games by different developers.
>
> Dracula: Resurrection/Sanctuary was first person, node-based exploring.

Exploring and boring :)

> Dracula: Origin is third person, standard point-n-click.
>
> Check the screenshots -
> http://www.adventuregamers.com/gallery.php?id=952
>
> However, I suspect you are talking about both games being somewhat in
> the horror genre. :)
>
> Personally, I would not write-off Origin based on that, seeing it does
> not look particularly bloody or anything. (If we go by ratings, the UK
> gave it a 12+ label, USA gave it 'Teen', which is to say "suitable for
> ages 13 and older")
>
> So if the kids can play it ... ;)

I'm not sure that says too much Matt :)

I don't mind some horror games, though there hasn't been any for quite a
while. The only Dracula game I played that I liked was an old game called
"Dracula Unleashed" - it had real videos of real actors so I guess it was
partly filmed, but what I didn't like was you had to do certain things on
certain says or had to start that day over. But I liked the videos and the
acting, so I usually used a walkthrough or too frustrating starting the
whole day over. I guess I would have to download the demo of Dracula to get
more of an idea. I think I read its a big demo so would take me a while to
download it. I have high speed, but lite high speed.

Mary

Mary

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While you're waiting for Black Mirror 2 :). I liked Black Mirror 1 so I will
probably get Black Mirror 2 when it comes out, which will be a while yet I
think.

Mary

Mary

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Jul 21, 2008, 2:12:04 PM7/21/08
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I've never heard of Canadian TV program Blood ties. I'm in Toronto. Never
heard of Moonlight either. Are they on every week right now? what channel?
We get most American channels unless they are Pay TV or digital channels
which I don't bother with since I feel I pay enough for my Cable TV bill :)
I think I got put off Dracula games with Dracula Sanctuary and Resurrection.
I found them too boring and I played both with a walkthrough. They were ok,
but just ok. I wouldn't play them again. I only play games again if I really
liked them. I like horror or mystery games most of the time, like Black
Mirror 1 was kind of mysterious. But there hasn't been any horror/mystery
games for a long time. I like Realms of the Haunting which is going back to
mid 90's and not great graphics, but the story was good and it was scary in
parts, but quite a lot of action, though I I got through it OK. I liked
American McGee's Alice. Also quite a lot of action, but I go by the story
and acting as well. As for the guy in GK2 (Beast Within) - He was supposed
to be a werewolf in the game. Its one of my top 5 games.I liked all GK
games.

Mary

Paula

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Jul 22, 2008, 10:34:38 AM7/22/08
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Hi, Joan.

I didn't think about downloading the demo but I am going to. That's a
good idea. I'll download both and check out Nemesis, too. I just think
Dracula Origin looks beautiful in the screenshots. Thank you for the
suggestion.

Paula

Paula

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Jul 22, 2008, 10:38:39 AM7/22/08
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Hi, Mary.

Yes, while I'm waiting for Black Mirror 2. I agree it will probably be
a while still. I hope it's worth the wait. Dracula Origin looks really
good to me, though. And on Joan's recommendation I'm also going to try
Sherlock Holmes Nemesis. I still have Secret Files of Tunguska to play
and am still playing The Lord of the Rings Online so I'm not sure when
I'm going to fit it all in. LOL

Paula

Mary

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Jul 22, 2008, 11:47:41 AM7/22/08
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"Paula" <pd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Paula, I just finished Nemesis and was playing it when Joan started it and
she didn't much care for the start of it, and I was the same but in message
here I told her to keep going and it gets better and she did and it got
better :) Maybe you didn't see the thread that Joan and I had about Nemesis
recently. Not this thread. There is another one. I recommend Nemesis as
well, but don't know if you will like it. You can always check out some
reviews before playing it to see what others say. I don't always base my
game purchases on that alone, but sometimes it helps you to make up your
mind. At least you have a few games still to play, so thats good. I have no
games to play again. Hope some come out soon that I will like.

Mary


Etal

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Jul 22, 2008, 1:01:15 PM7/22/08
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Matt v3.3 wrote:

> Mary typed:
>
>> I don't know if I want to download Dracula demo. I bought Dracula
>> Sanctary and Dracula Resurrection in a 2 pack a couple a while back,
>> but didn't care for any of them, so if this one you are talking about
>> is much the same as them, I wouldn't be interested.
>
> By what I've read, completely different games by different developers.
>
> Dracula: Resurrection/Sanctuary was first person, node-based exploring.
>
> Dracula: Origin is third person, standard point-n-click.
>

As there are so many different Dracula products, just calling
games 'Dracula 1, 2 and 3' is too generic in my opinion.
I call the games Mary mentioned as being the 'Dracula
Resurrection [series]'. I would have called the second one a
self-standing Expansion-pack as the first one, IMO, is kind of
incomplete on its own. However as i just got 'Safecracker, tUPA'
i was checking out 'Kheops Studios' and was surprised that there
apparently is another sequel in the 'Dracula Resurrection
[series]', named Dracula III, so i guess 'the Last Sanctuary'
should be named Dracula II. So ..

01(1999) Dracula Resurrection I, Resurrection
02(2000) Dracula Resurrection II, the Last Sanctuary
and now
03(2008) Dracula Resurrection III, the Path of the Dragon
<http://www.kheops-studio.fr/site/games.php?lang=2&op=show&id=15>
By the way the <http://www.dracula3-thegame.com/> link is not
working correctly ē’Ÿyet or anymore?]?, but redirects.

They are supposed to be the same game-series according to MobyGames:
<http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dracula-resurrection-series/>

Knowing nothing about it, but 8 years later and from a different
developer then the first two, but the gameplay is probably /
seems to be - 1st person, node-jumping, free-look.


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Matt v3.3

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Mary typed:
> Matt v3.3 typed:

>> Dracula: Resurrection/Sanctuary was first person,
>> node-based exploring.
>
> Exploring and boring :)

Really? I thought it was ok, not great as you say, but I enjoyed them.
Resurrection had some nice excitement/tension despite the fact that
you could not get killed and take your time. Sanctuary unfortunately
added a few time-limit puzzles, so I just used a walkthrough to get
back to the game, and I enjoyed the story/cutscenes. But then, I love
the horror genre, and particularly Dracula. :)

Heh, I remember you and Barbara talking on here about that wench with
the big wart on her face! ;D (at the beginning of Resurrection) - that
was partly why I just had to get the game, to see that. It was funny.

>> Personally, I would not write-off Origin based on that, seeing it
>> does not look particularly bloody or anything. (If we go by
>> ratings, the UK gave it a 12+ label, USA gave it 'Teen', which is
>> to say "suitable for ages 13 and older")
>>
>> So if the kids can play it ... ;)
>
> I'm not sure that says too much Matt :)

Probably not. ;)

> I don't mind some horror games, though there hasn't been any for
> quite a while. The only Dracula game I played that I liked was an old
> game called "Dracula Unleashed" - it had real videos of real actors
> so I guess it was partly filmed,

Ah, I miss the FMV adventures. Too bad they had their time when the
technology was not really up to the task - if it were today, with DVD
capable "home theater" computers, they could make some great stuff.


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Matt v3.3

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Jul 23, 2008, 1:23:02 AM7/23/08
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Etal typed:

> As there are so many different Dracula products, just calling games
> 'Dracula 1, 2 and 3' is too generic in my opinion.
> [...] and was surprised that there apparently is another sequel in

> the 'Dracula Resurrection [series]', named Dracula III, so i guess
> 'the Last Sanctuary' should be named Dracula II. So ..
>
> 01(1999) Dracula Resurrection I, Resurrection
> 02(2000) Dracula Resurrection II, the Last Sanctuary
> and now
> 03(2008) Dracula Resurrection III, the Path of the Dragon
> <http://www.kheops-studio.fr/site/games.php?lang=2&op=show&id=15>

Oh yes, I heard about that, but know nothing about it yet. It certainly
*looks* great (graphically), but then, everything does these days. ;)

> They are supposed to be the same game-series according to MobyGames:
> <http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dracula-resurrection-series/>

Er, to be accurate, Moby calls it the Dracula Resurrection series, but
the individual games are not called Resurrection 1,2,3... (I noticed
the first game is supposed to have a "the" in the title though, as in
"the Resurrection" - I was not aware of that)

<updates my gaming document> Ok, how about ...

_Dracula Resurrection Series_:
Dracula 1: The Resurrection
Dracula 2: The Last Sanctuary

> Knowing nothing about it, but 8 years later and from a different
> developer then the first two, but the gameplay is probably / seems to
> be - 1st person, node-jumping, free-look.

I'm not sure how much of a "sequel" it can be - the original two seemed
to conclude pretty well (not that I can remember exactly :\ ) However,
I shall keep an open mind (which is probably why I cannot remember) and
we shall see ...

PS: MaryJ & Barbara (if you're reading), here is that serving wench :)
http://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/dracula-the-resurrection/screenshots/gameShotId,199233/

(There were *closer* shots than that - LOL!; much, much closer)


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B.C.

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> Mary typed:
>> Matt v3.3 typed:
>>> Dracula: Resurrection/Sanctuary was first person,
>>> node-based exploring.

> Heh, I remember you and Barbara talking on here about that wench with


> the big wart on her face! ;D (at the beginning of Resurrection) - that
> was partly why I just had to get the game, to see that. It was funny.
>

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure/browse_thread/thread/f7e936c47190de97/e5508960323ed57b?lnk=gst&q=dracula+resurrection#e5508960323ed57b

I remember talking about her breast!!!! With Murray....
LOL

Barbara


Mary

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Too many Draculas for me :). I've only played Dracula Unleashed which was
made in mid 90's and was quite good except for having to do things on
certain days. to prevent too much frustration, I used a walkthrough almost
for the entire game. And the other two Draculs were a 2 pack of Dracula Last
Sanctuary and Resurrection. I think those two were made fairly close
together.

> PS: MaryJ & Barbara (if you're reading), here is that serving wench :)
>
http://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/dracula-the-resurrection/screenshots/gameShotId,199233/
>
> (There were *closer* shots than that - LOL!; much, much closer)

I don't remember anything about that serving wench. Didn't you say in
another message that I haven't got around to answering yet, that Barbara and
I discussed this serving wench? I don't remember that either. :P

Mary

Mary

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Jul 23, 2008, 7:17:25 PM7/23/08
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"Matt v3.3" <ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>

> I'm not sure how much of a "sequel" it can be - the original two seemed
> to conclude pretty well (not that I can remember exactly :\ ) However,
> I shall keep an open mind (which is probably why I cannot remember) and
> we shall see ...
>
> PS: MaryJ & Barbara (if you're reading), here is that serving wench :)
>
http://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/dracula-the-resurrection/screenshots/gameShotId,199233/
>
> (There were *closer* shots than that - LOL!; much, much closer)

I used the link that Barbara gives on her message today ghere, where she and
Murray are discussing about breasts.
It wasn't me as you thought who discussed her breasts. Or at least I don't
see a message where I mentioned it. It was Murray who said her breasts were
like steel and sticking straight up and Barbara said something about the
steel breasts didn't move and would have looked more real if they did. It
was those two who discussed it - LOL - I don't remember that part at all,
but when I play a game and don't like it too much, I skip though a lot of
stuff hoping the game will get better.

Mary

Mary

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How do you get that link above Barbara? did you do a search for Dracula
Resurrention and got the above? It was dated in 2001. No wonder I cant
remember anything about it. 7 years is too long for me, if its a game that
didn't impress me. I can remember a lot of details about games I liked :)

Mary

Etal

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Jul 23, 2008, 11:19:56 PM7/23/08
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Matt v3.3 wrote:

> Etal typed:
>
>> As there are so many different Dracula products, just calling games
>> 'Dracula 1, 2 and 3' is too generic in my opinion.
>> [...] and was surprised that there apparently is another sequel in
>> the 'Dracula Resurrection [series]', named Dracula III, so i guess
>> 'the Last Sanctuary' should be named Dracula II. So ..
>>
>> 01(1999) Dracula Resurrection I, Resurrection
>> 02(2000) Dracula Resurrection II, the Last Sanctuary
>> and now
>> 03(2008) Dracula Resurrection III, the Path of the Dragon
>> <http://www.kheops-studio.fr/site/games.php?lang=2&op=show&id=15>
>
> Oh yes, I heard about that, but know nothing about it yet. It certainly
> *looks* great (graphically), but then, everything does these days. ;)
>
>> They are supposed to be the same game-series according to MobyGames:
>> <http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dracula-resurrection-series/>
>
> Er, to be accurate, Moby calls it the Dracula Resurrection series, but
> the individual games are not called Resurrection 1,2,3... (I noticed
> the first game is supposed to have a "the" in the title though, as in
> "the Resurrection" - I was not aware of that)
>
> <updates my gaming document> Ok, how about ...
>
> _Dracula Resurrection Series_:
> Dracula 1: The Resurrection
> Dracula 2: The Last Sanctuary
>

Well, it is Kheops or perhaps Microids that have decided to call
the new game "Dracula 3: subtitle", so another one should be
number 2. It is i who self-willed add 'Resurrection' in the
main/common part of the name for the three games (for the reason
i tried to argue at the top here) as a way to keep these separate
from other Dracula-games, like the Origin and the Unleashed ones
now also mentioned in this thread.

The integrity of the [english] names given to games by
game-developers and/or publishers are non-existent it seems. Case
in point, the copy of the first Resurrection game i got wasn't
published as either "Dracula: Resurrection" or "Dracula: The
Resurrection" but instead as "Dracula (resurrection)".


>> Knowing nothing about it, but 8 years later and from a different
>> developer then the first two, but the gameplay is probably / seems to
>> be - 1st person, node-jumping, free-look.
>
> I'm not sure how much of a "sequel" it can be - the original two seemed
> to conclude pretty well (not that I can remember exactly :\ ) However,
> I shall keep an open mind (which is probably why I cannot remember) and
> we shall see ...

You defeat your adversary, you save the world and [if you, the
hero, is a male] you get the girl. It's a safe guess in most
games, isn't it. And it seems to be pretty accurate for the story
that, i agree, was finished after the second game. I don't see
how, from the description at MobyGames, the new third one is a
sequel. Maybe it's that some of original games designers, artists
or something now works at Kheops and decided to make a new game
using the Dracula myth, or perhaps .. is Microids the original
publisher [in France] of these 3 Dracula games? I don't know.

Matt v3.3

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Mary typed:

> I used the link that Barbara gives on her message today ghere,
> where she and Murray are discussing about breasts. It wasn't me
> as you thought who discussed her breasts. [...]

No, I never mentioned breasts. I'm sure I can remember someone talking
about the wart/wench, but who knows - memory can play tricks.

> It was Murray who said her breasts were like steel and sticking
> straight up

Apparently so - LOL! :) Murray was talking about the breasts on Mina,
that was a different character who appears later in the game.

Oh well. That was funny. :)

Where did Murray go, anyway? (Lots of great posters in that thread)


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Mary

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"Matt v3.3" <ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mary typed:
> > I used the link that Barbara gives on her message today ghere,
> > where she and Murray are discussing about breasts. It wasn't me
> > as you thought who discussed her breasts. [...]
>
> No, I never mentioned breasts. I'm sure I can remember someone talking
> about the wart/wench, but who knows - memory can play tricks.

I had to check back - you mentioned about Barbar and I discussing a wench
with a big wart on her face and when Barbara saw your message she gave a
link to some posts when discussing Resurrection on this newsgroup in 2001
where Murray started it out by saying something about "the woman with steel
breasts sticking right up" or something like that and it didn't look v ery
normal and Barbara in that older thread about Dracula Resurrectiion said the
womans breasts should have moved, or some such thing. I can't remember
exactly, but its on the link that Barbara gave a couple of messages back.
So Barbara must have been thinking about her discussion with Murray and you
were talking about something else - me and Barbara talking about the wench
with a big wart on her face (In Resurrection). I can't remember her
either.. So it got into two different situations in the game somehow - I
think Barbara was talking about something else - LOL

> > It was Murray who said her breasts were like steel and sticking
> > straight up
>
> Apparently so - LOL! :) Murray was talking about the breasts on Mina,
> that was a different character who appears later in the game.
>
> Oh well. That was funny. :)
>
> Where did Murray go, anyway? (Lots of great posters in that thread)

Murray and his wife took up car racing, so spend a lot of time at the track,
Maybe he plays games once in a while and will post again sometime. I miss
the old crowd too. Bob R. was fun and reminded us to trim our messages, and
there was Robert Norton. I wonder what happened to the BS guy, the young
guy from Ireland who liked Broken sword 1 and 2 so much? or Alkis? He was
making computer games and doing quite well. There was the young Australian
girl Diana who was very nice. In 2001 and starting before that time, most of
these people were here till adventure games werent being made very often
starting 4 years ago or so. I go on a few other groups, but I liked the
people on adventure newsgroup the best. Oh well, us holdouts are still here.
Rikard, you and me , Joan, and Craig,Opsimath, Andrew, Paula, Barbara,
Trina, Rudi. Jenny posts sometimes too. Haven't seen posts from Pat for a
long time. Remember Richard? He really livened things up here. I wonder what
happened to him? There were others, but I forget right now.

Mary

Matt v3.3

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Jul 24, 2008, 12:34:14 AM7/24/08
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Etal typed:

> The integrity of the [english] names given to games by
> game-developers and/or publishers are non-existent it seems. Case in
> point, the copy of the first Resurrection game i got wasn't published
> as either "Dracula: Resurrection" or "Dracula: The Resurrection" but
> instead as "Dracula (resurrection)".

Like this one? -
http://www.microids.com/en/catalogue/11/dracula-resurrection.html

Notice the browser title says: "Dracula, Resurrection, Episode 1" just
to confuse us a bit more. ;)

I've never seen that particular box cover before. Different countries
have different publishers, and each one likes to rename each game and
change the box artwork, which is part of the continuity problem. :\

<snip>


> I don't see how, from the description at MobyGames, the new third
> one is a sequel. Maybe it's that some of original games designers,
> artists or something now works at Kheops and decided to make a new
> game using the Dracula myth, or perhaps .. is Microids the original
> publisher [in France] of these 3 Dracula games? I don't know.

Yes apparently they are part of the Microids catalog. There were four
different publishers according to Moby -

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dracula-the-resurrection/release-info


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B.C.

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"Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> schreef in bericht news:g68ej6$903$2...@aioe.org...

> "B.C." <myemailadress@is invalid> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Matt v3.3" <ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:g66dh5$bd7$1...@aioe.org...
> How do you get that link above Barbara? did you do a search for Dracula
> Resurrention and got the above? It was dated in 2001. No wonder I cant
> remember anything about it. 7 years is too long for me, if its a game that
> didn't impress me. I can remember a lot of details about games I liked :)
>
> Mary

search for Google groups comp sys ibm pc games adventure.
and then for instance typ..........von Glower.....you get all the messages
from way back....LOL....most of the messages are from you MaryJ.
LOL
remember Geoffrey Tobin??

Greetings.
(I don't remember a big ward or wench in dracula resurrection....)

Barbara


E-Cie

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"Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> schreef in bericht news:g68uti$uns$1...@aioe.org...
Ah Mary, don't you forget about me! ;-p Whew, that's a song by The Simple
Minds too!
I'm still here though I don't post that much. I'm a reader more than a
writer so to speak. But, I love it here.
Ciao, E-Cie.


Paula

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Thanks Mary. I think I'll download the demo of Nemesis before I get it
to be sure. But if I start out not caring for it I'll remember what you
said and give it some time. :-)

Paula

Etal

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Matt v3.3 wrote:

> Etal typed:
>
>> The integrity of the [english] names given to games by
>> game-developers and/or publishers are non-existent it seems. Case in
>> point, the copy of the first Resurrection game i got wasn't published
>> as either "Dracula: Resurrection" or "Dracula: The Resurrection" but
>> instead as "Dracula (resurrection)".
>
> Like this one? -
> http://www.microids.com/en/catalogue/11/dracula-resurrection.html
>
> Notice the browser title says: "Dracula, Resurrection, Episode 1" just
> to confuse us a bit more. ;)
>
> I've never seen that particular box cover before. Different countries
> have different publishers, and each one likes to rename each game and
> change the box artwork, which is part of the continuity problem. :\
>

Similar but it is without the three people in the foreground,
just the black-drawn Dracula over the blood-red background (for
quite a blood-less game). The title is the same font but in
yellow, slightly smaller, and in english as in without the acute
accent (the short manual is in english too). And, yes, from a
different publisher.

But on Microids web-site i see that they are actually calling
'the Last Sanctuary', 'Dracula 2'. So that question in my mind is
settled then. There's no missing title in between.

Mary

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"Paula" <pd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yes, maybe try the demo though sometimes demos don't give you much idea if
you would like the game or not, but some do. I tried the demo first and
didn't know what to think. The game is so much beter. I mainly got the game
because I had no games to play and because it was $19.99. But I liked the
game.

Mary

Mary

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"E-Cie" <WU...@shutup.au> wrote in message
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Sorry E-Cie. I should have remembered you because you are one of the "old"
adventure fans I was referring to in a message not too long ago, who has
kept posting here even in our "lean" times with hardly any posters.And we
talked about it. I have a short memory at times. I have a better long ago
memory - sign of getting older :p. Never heard of song. Simple Minds :)

Mary


B.C.

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"B.C." <myemailadress@is invalid> schreef in bericht
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Spending all evening reading old messages and having a great
time...LOL......
neil047 Katie, Charybdis, myst, dark side of the moon, the lighthouse,
black daliah, GK2....MP....fanfare in Zork Nemesis
if you're not playing a game at the moment it 'll keep you busy....
those where the days my friend we thought they never end..............etc
Greetings
Barbara


Mary

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"B.C." <myemailadress@is invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> schreef in bericht news:g68ej6$903$2...@aioe.org...
> > "B.C." <myemailadress@is invalid> wrote in message
> > news:4886d44b$0$70466$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
> >>
> >> "Matt v3.3" <ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
> >> news:g66dh5$bd7$1...@aioe.org...
> > How do you get that link above Barbara? did you do a search for Dracula
> > Resurrention and got the above? It was dated in 2001. No wonder I cant
> > remember anything about it. 7 years is too long for me, if its a game
that
> > didn't impress me. I can remember a lot of details about games I liked
:)
> >
> > Mary
>
> search for Google groups comp sys ibm pc games adventure.
> and then for instance typ..........von Glower.....you get all the messages
> from way back....LOL....most of the messages are from you MaryJ.
> LOL

On the part above when you type in Von Glower, most of the replies are from
me but I am replying to messages you and ChristineMarie posted about Von
Glower and giving my input about him too :). Thats just one part of a
thread. I haven't checked for other threads yet.

> remember Geoffrey Tobin??

Yes, he taught at a University in Australia. I always associate him with
"Twinsens Odyssey" (Little Big Adventure 1 as it was also known) game,
though I like the game myself and re-play it once in a while. I liked the
first game in that series too (Relentless, aka Little Big Adventure 2) but
first one was best .

> Greetings.
> (I don't remember a big ward or wench in dracula resurrection....)

Not "ward" - It was a wench with "wart" on her face -meaning a big pimple on
her face. LOL. Thats what Matt mentioned that y ou and I talked about in
Dracula Resurrection on this group when we were discussing that game.
You discussed about "steel breasts" with Murray - was that in Dracula
Resurrection" too?

Mary

Mary

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"B.C." <myemailadress@is invalid> wrote in message
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I haven't had time yet you read too many old messages. I will have to check
some when I get a chance. I remember Katie. She had twins, so was too busy
after that I guess. Charybdis who was Richard was who I mentioned yesterday
and said I would like to see a post by him here now to see what he has been
doing all this time. His messages were never dull - akwats unusual and
lively. Yes, Mark Parrish. what happened to him? Zork Nemesis - we discussed
a lot about it. Louie (Ashikaga)- he and I were two of the first people on
adventure newsgroup.No other newsgroups has been as interesting to me since
those days which was not really that long ago.The link you gave yesterday
was posts from 2001, so just 7 years ago. I think what made it that way was
the people were interesting and such varied backgrouns and always
discussions about adventure games where should I go next? why am I stuck? I
always looked at adventure game first when I checked newsgroups. Well, we
still have some people coming here to keep the door open :)

Mary


E-Cie

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"Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> schreef in bericht news:g6ar4s$ofg$1...@aioe.org...
Mary, no sorry's please. I was merely kidding. And I know what you mean by
getting older in relation to short time memory. I'm 48 years old now and it
is getting harder all the time ;-))
But that won't keep me from adventuring. I (we, I have to say) just finished
Jack Keane and it was a rather fun game. Not so many conversations, rather
logical puzzles and a lineair storyline. Graphics were ok (3D environment
with sufficiƫnt camerapoints) and so was the sound and music. Voiceacting
was a little less ok (few voices for all characters), but considering the
characters and the way the game looked and felt it was not so bad. We liked
it. "So Blonde" will be our next adventure I think, but I've read somewhere
that it is a rather difficult game considering the puzzles. Well, we'll find
out.
Ciao, E-Cie.


Mary

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"E-Cie" <WU...@shutup.au> wrote in message
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I am a older than 48. In fact, 48 doesn't sound too bad to me though when I
was 48 I didn't feel it was young, but I felt it was still "youngish", but
when you get past 48, you can look back and think to yourself that it was
quite young - everything depends on how old you are at the present time. The
older you get, the better 48 will look to you:). But one thing for sure, you
can play adventure games at any age :)

> But that won't keep me from adventuring. I (we, I have to say) just
finished
> Jack Keane and it was a rather fun game. Not so many conversations, rather
> logical puzzles and a lineair storyline. Graphics were ok (3D environment
> with sufficiƫnt camerapoints) and so was the sound and music. Voiceacting
> was a little less ok (few voices for all characters), but considering the
> characters and the way the game looked and felt it was not so bad. We
liked
> it. "So Blonde" will be our next adventure I think, but I've read
somewhere
> that it is a rather difficult game considering the puzzles. Well, we'll
find
> out.

I have never heard of Jack Keane or So Blonde. I might look into them. I am
waiting to see what Jane Jensen's game "Gray Matter (or Gray Matters)" will
be like.

Mary

MetalGuru

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Mary wrote:
> Yes, he taught at a University in Australia. I always associate him
> with "Twinsens Odyssey" (Little Big Adventure 1 as it was also known)
> game, though I like the game myself and re-play it once in a while. I
> liked the first game in that series too (Relentless, aka Little Big
> Adventure 2) but first one was best.

Yes, Relentless was the first one (Little Big Adventure) and Odyssey the
second (LBA2), you got your numbers reversed. Both great and absolutely
charming games, by the way, with the perfect mixture of adventuring,
exploration, puzzles, action, story and humour - not to mention beautiful
graphics and music to top it off.

Why can't they make games like that anymore? <huge Shrek sigh>

Mary

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You're right. I don't know why I reversed them as I know the order they came
in. I played Odyssey first, then Relentless, so I guess I was thinking of
that. Or, my memory is shot which is more likely. :D,. After I played TO, I
couldn't find Relentless in stores. I ended up buying it on Ebay. TO had
really nice graphics and the story was so interesting. Good music. The
characters were cute. The ideas behind the story were well thought out and
so innovative.The part where Twinsen went to (can't remember the name - the
place where he jumped down and had to get on that cart and go around the
small railroad) - took me ages to get past that part the first time, and
when I've replayed it. Relentless was good too in its own way. For some
reason, those dirt diggers or whatever they were at the construction site
come to mind. That scene was really unusual. Both games were a perfect
mixture as you said above.

> Why can't they make games like that anymore? <huge Shrek sigh>

I agree. Weren't they going to make a LBA3 at one time but it never got
going? I've replayed TO quite a few times.

Mary

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