Crusader in Win95?
Evan
e-mail me if it's no trouble....thanks!
--Evan
Origin Technical Support
>--Evan
Unfortunately, due to the DOS extender that the game uses, it will not
work at all under Win95. :( You will have to force the system to
reboot to DOS with a specific configuration and then it will work just
fine. :)
Chico
Origin PS
Michael Carmack
: You know, I was going to ask why in hell Origin insists on
: using this pharr-lap extender? It sucks from my point of view
: that crusader and ultima 8 (and others) from origin require me
: to reboot my damned machine when I want to play.
: C&C doesn't. Doom doesn't. Descent doesn't. CK doesn't.
The extender question is really an extension of a better question: why
doesn't Origin use the Watcom compiler? It has been consistently
benchmarked as producing the fastest code, which is the bottom-line most
important issue in a compiler used for writing games.
My guess is that Origin is using Borland C/C++ because the Phar-Lap
extender works with it. (There are versions of Phar-Lap for other
compilers I believe, so I could be wrong about this.) Borland does not
produce very fast code at all, but it's a heck of a lot easier to use from
the programmer's viewpoint than Watcom.
And Borland costs 2.5 times as much as Watcom! But price really shouldn't
be an issue for a company as large as Origin (it is for me, though!) And
if it were, they could always use djgpp which is FREE! (It's a real pain
in the butt to use, though, unless you're a UNIX fan.)
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Philip Langdale
: The extender question is really an extension of a better question: why
: doesn't Origin use the Watcom compiler? It has been consistently
: benchmarked as producing the fastest code, which is the bottom-line most
: important issue in a compiler used for writing games.
: My guess is that Origin is using Borland C/C++ because the Phar-Lap
: extender works with it. (There are versions of Phar-Lap for other
: compilers I believe, so I could be wrong about this.) Borland does not
: produce very fast code at all, but it's a heck of a lot easier to use from
: the programmer's viewpoint than Watcom.
: And Borland costs 2.5 times as much as Watcom! But price really shouldn't
: be an issue for a company as large as Origin (it is for me, though!) And
: if it were, they could always use djgpp which is FREE! (It's a real pain
: in the butt to use, though, unless you're a UNIX fan.)
Well, for wc3 they WROTE an extender from the ground up. (Can you imagine?)
If they did that for all their games, I would imagine a considerable
performance boost, but it would also stretch developing time a lot.
oh well. They are shifting to 95 so the issue is moot in any case.
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Donavon Keithley
rog...@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Philip Langdale) wrote:
> Michael Carmack (mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:
> : The extender question is really an extension of a better question: why
> : doesn't Origin use the Watcom compiler?
Each project separately decides what compiler/DOS extender to use.
Longbow (the project I'm on) *is* using Watcom/DOS4GW. Crusader had to
use Borland and 16-bit PharLap because it was based on the Ultima 8
engine. Wing Commander 3 used Metaware/PharLap386. I believe all of the
Win95 projects are using Visual C++.
> It has been consistently
> : benchmarked as producing the fastest code, which is the bottom-line most
> : important issue in a compiler used for writing games.
Yup. That's why we chose it for our project.
> Well, for wc3 they WROTE an extender from the ground up. (Can you imagine?)
Uh, that's news to me, and I suspect that I would have heard about it if
they had.
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