Metal Gear Solid Demo - won't even start
Grimfarrow
it fine, etc. Then I click to play it. It hangs. Boot
the computer again, duble click on the game, it hangs
again. WTF? I have the latest drivers for everything,
so it can't be that. Plus, I also downloaded the Escape
from Monkey Island demo, and that one ran flawlessly.
What the hell, Microsoft? Another buggy release?
Haven't you learned?
Grimfarrow
Big Daddy
:)
Sorry, I just get tired of all the dolts that post 'it runs great'. PC games
are bugged to fuck, and demos are even worse.
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Jim
"Grimfarrow" <grimf...@excite.com> wrote in message
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xxsa...@my-deja.com
Okay Dude:
Good news bad news!
Good news: The demo runs great. You'll be really impressed with it.
its loads of fun.
Bad news: Its you.
So now what is it?
Since you seem to indicate that all is well in driver land but give no
other info here is what I'm guessing.
1. corrupt file in the download
2. Screwed up install
3. Path or file in confict with the video card! Attempting to boot to
either Primary or accelarator card and it hangs.
Try this:
Check download for size and reinstall
Try running setup for video card!
Runs great on my"
P3 650
TNT 2 M64 16 Meg Det 3 6.31
DirectX 7.01a
Win 98
1024 x 768
Microsoft did just fine here!
XxSATANxX
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Before you buy.
Grimfarrow
Pentium Celeron 300A (overclocked to 450)
Creative Annihilator Pro (Creative ref. driver 5.30)
Sound Blaster Live! (Liveware ver. 3.1)
DirectX7.1a
Pioneer DVD-ROM 103S
Creative Voodoo2 (12M) SLI (2 boards)
Roland LAPC-1
1) No, the file isn't corrupt during download. I downloaded it
twice. Same damn thing.
2) Screwed up install? Nope. I uninstalled & re-installed it.
No diff.
3) I've played many, many games & demos w/ my current setup.
Had no probs with the Escape to Monkey Island Demo, the
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 demo, the Blair Witch Project demo,
or even the Half-Life mod They Hunger 2. The MGS demo is
the only thing that just hangs.
I stuck with the creative ref. driver at 5.30 because it's the
most stable & I've had no trouble so far.
Grimfarrow
xxsa...@my-deja.com
Grimfarrow <grimf...@excite.com> wrote:
> Well, here goes:
>
> Pentium Celeron 300A (overclocked to 450)
> Creative Annihilator Pro (Creative ref. driver 5.30)
> Sound Blaster Live! (Liveware ver. 3.1)
> DirectX7.1a
> Pioneer DVD-ROM 103S
> Creative Voodoo2 (12M) SLI (2 boards)
> Roland LAPC-1
>
> 1) No, the file isn't corrupt during download. I downloaded it
> twice. Same damn thing.
> 2) Screwed up install? Nope. I uninstalled & re-installed it.
> No diff.
> 3) I've played many, many games & demos w/ my current setup.
> Had no probs with the Escape to Monkey Island Demo, the
> Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 demo, the Blair Witch Project demo,
> or even the Half-Life mod They Hunger 2. The MGS demo is
> the only thing that just hangs.
>
> I stuck with the creative ref. driver at 5.30 because it's the
> most stable & I've had no trouble so far.
>
> Grimfarrow
>
All righty then! My guess is the drivers for the creative card.
Your current driver version (per Creative) is 6.31 Detonator 3's! I am
using the Detonator 6.31's and they rock! My suggestion is to use
either the current creative drivers or the Nvadia ref drivers! 5.30 is
back a ways and you might see some real improvement in both the look
and performance as well as increased stability. Your card is a GeForce
256 I think it would behave very well with the Nvidia Det 3's 6.31.
Monkey island is well not really a state of the art game engine, Tony
Hawk, and Half-life are also older game renderers. Time to step a bit
and risk some newer drivers. The game should still run very well on
your Celeron since its just simply a port of the older PS2 title.
This is a final Demo not a test so it should have minimal bugs.
I already played it and removed it from my system. Although the game
looked real fun Microsoft did little to convert it for the PC. I don't
have a game pad so controlling old Snake was pretty awful. My reccomend
if this don't work you did'nt miss much anyway!
Regards,
XxSATANxX
PS. The Nvidia drivers come with a step by step install readme they
make it easy!
Jarno Kaarinen
>I stuck with the creative ref. driver at 5.30 because it's the
>most stable & I've had no trouble so far.
Rule #1: Always (as in: 99.999% of cases) use reference drivers for
your chipset, because they are usually months newer than the old
drivers from your graphics card vendor.
I learned that dearly with my 3Dfx Voodoo and Voodoo 2 cards. Kept
pulling my hair out when many games wouldn't work, until I started
using exclusively reference drivers.
Grimfarrow
xxsa...@my-deja.com wrote:
> All righty then! My guess is the drivers for the creative card.
>
> Your current driver version (per Creative) is 6.31 Detonator 3's! I am
> using the Detonator 6.31's and they rock! My suggestion is to use
> either the current creative drivers or the Nvadia ref drivers! 5.30 is
> back a ways and you might see some real improvement in both the look
> and performance as well as increased stability. Your card is a GeForce
> 256 I think it would behave very well with the Nvidia Det 3's 6.31.
Actually, no. The current driver per Creative is the 5.30. The Fasttrax
are at 6.31/2/4/whatever. However, since all fasttrax are considered
"demo" and not official releases, I think I'll wait.
I haven't tried the detonator drivers yet, but considering the last time I
used
a ref. driver from Nvidia and the fps of Porsche Unleashed dipped by
50%, I think I'll pass as well.
I just think that considering all other games work fine on my system,
I should NOT be required to install new drivers (which I hate anyway,
as subsequent installs of different types of drivers like Nvidia/Creative/
Fasttrax usual totally screw up my registry). I try to stick to only
one type of drivers ie. if I only use Nvidia's ref. driver, I'll only use
those and not creative's.
> Monkey island is well not really a state of the art game engine, Tony
> Hawk, and Half-life are also older game renderers. Time to step a bit
> and risk some newer drivers. The game should still run very well on
> your Celeron since its just simply a port of the older PS2 title.
You mean PS? PS2 isn't out yet. As for the demo, I deleted it.
And considering that Blair Witch just came out and have fantastic
gfx, I don't agree with your assessment that all the games that work
are dependent on old renderers.
> This is a final Demo not a test so it should have minimal bugs
> I already played it and removed it from my system. Although the game
> looked real fun Microsoft did little to convert it for the PC. I don't
> have a game pad so controlling old Snake was pretty awful. My reccomend
> if this don't work you did'nt miss much anyway!
I have a gamepad, but I guess I will never know! Too bad! Good
thing there are plenty of ther games I can try.
Grimfarrow
Grimfarrow
Jarno Kaarinen wrote:
> Rule #1: Always (as in: 99.999% of cases) use reference drivers for
> your chipset, because they are usually months newer than the old
> drivers from your graphics card vendor.
>
> I learned that dearly with my 3Dfx Voodoo and Voodoo 2 cards. Kept
> pulling my hair out when many games wouldn't work, until I started
> using exclusively reference drivers.
Well, my experience w/ Nvidia's ref. driver has been very mixed.
Sometimes,
the improvements are great. Some other times, the new drivers crash
the games or make the fps dip by 30, 40, or even 50%.
Grimfarrow
infoghost
wrote:
>
>I haven't tried the detonator drivers yet, but considering the last time I
>used
>a ref. driver from Nvidia and the fps of Porsche Unleashed dipped by
>50%, I think I'll pass as well.
Use the official Detonator driver - you will be much happier.
>
>I just think that considering all other games work fine on my system,
>I should NOT be required to install new drivers (which I hate anyway,
>as subsequent installs of different types of drivers like Nvidia/Creative/
>Fasttrax usual totally screw up my registry). I try to stick to only
>one type of drivers ie. if I only use Nvidia's ref. driver, I'll only use
>those and not creative's.
Come on. Keeping your drivers updated is part of the game. If game
company X has optimized their game with the latest drivers - usually
reference drivers - you expect that your old drivers should just work
fine?
iG