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pcgamer

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Feb 10, 2006, 4:49:44 AM2/10/06
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I don't want to start a personal fight with anyone cause
I will never turn this into personal issues with someone
I have never meet and will for sure never, but what is in
stake is the principal of the internet freedom of speech.

The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows
up to a post I write.
He is killfile anyone who simply replies to me.
He threats to and if someone follows-up he immediatly kill
files that poster and notifies the all group about it and
warns he will stay killfiled for 30 days.
It seams like a joke does it? unfortunately it isn't.
This didn't start yesterday... it is going on for over many
months now and enough is enough...
I've remain quiet since now but enough is enough.

Why did he do it in the first place? is it that relevant?
probably not but even so it has to do with me having a very
strong opposition to the way Valve is selling their games,
specially in retail, and the use of steam.
I'm a PC Gamer and I have all the right to oppose the way
Valve is doing business and I have all the right to write
about it in this group. Anyone has the right to disagree,
but I have the right to have my opinion expressed in this
group.
So basically he is doing this harassment against anyone
that follows up to a post I write cause he can't stand my
different points of view.
But even if not, is this behavior or pressuring others in
not follow-up to my posts acceptable?
For me it is a total shame and totally unacceptable.

What I ask you then is very simple, follow-up to this post
even if it is too disagree, it doesn't matter, but please
do follow-up to show the Mean_Chlorine he doesn't own this
group and he doesn't set the rules in this group and he can
never ever condition or end the freedom of speech we all
have in this group
People wonder why there are still countries in the world
with no freedom of speech... we don't need to go far to see
in a western country there is someone that for sure dreamed
about being the censor and silencing anyone he chooses too.

Quaestor

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Feb 10, 2006, 6:07:01 AM2/10/06
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pcgamer wrote:

>The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows
>up to a post I write.
>
>

Really?


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redTed

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Feb 10, 2006, 6:37:26 AM2/10/06
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> The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows
> up to a post I write.
> He is killfile anyone who simply replies to me.

So fucking what ?
Do you and Mr.Chlorine think you are actually that important ?
LOL.


Gerry Quinn

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Feb 10, 2006, 6:41:20 AM2/10/06
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In article <1139564984....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
pcgame...@yahoo.com says...

> I don't want to start a personal fight with anyone cause
> I will never turn this into personal issues with someone
> I have never meet and will for sure never, but what is in
> stake is the principal of the internet freedom of speech.
>
> The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows
> up to a post I write.
> He is killfile anyone who simply replies to me.
> He threats to and if someone follows-up he immediatly kill
> files that poster and notifies the all group about it and
> warns he will stay killfiled for 30 days.
> It seams like a joke does it? unfortunately it isn't.
> This didn't start yesterday... it is going on for over many
> months now and enough is enough...
> I've remain quiet since now but enough is enough.

All that means is that he pretends he won't read their posts.

NOTHING is at stake.

> Why did he do it in the first place? is it that relevant?
> probably not but even so it has to do with me having a very
> strong opposition to the way Valve is selling their games,
> specially in retail, and the use of steam.
> I'm a PC Gamer and I have all the right to oppose the way
> Valve is doing business and I have all the right to write
> about it in this group. Anyone has the right to disagree,
> but I have the right to have my opinion expressed in this
> group.

And Mean Chlorine has the right to say what he wants too.

- Gerry Quinn

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JAB

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Feb 10, 2006, 6:40:12 AM2/10/06
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pcgamer wrote:

> I'm a PC Gamer and I have all the right to oppose the way
> Valve is doing business and I have all the right to write
> about it in this group. Anyone has the right to disagree,
> but I have the right to have my opinion expressed in this
> group.

You seem to have made the common mistake that freedom of speech means
that all opinions are equally valid. It doesn't as the garbage that is
you opinion shows.

Now back in the killfile for you.

Briarroot

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Feb 10, 2006, 8:40:51 AM2/10/06
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pcgamer wrote:
> I don't want to start a personal fight with anyone cause
> I will never turn this into personal issues with someone
> I have never meet and will for sure never, but what is in
> stake is the principal of the internet freedom of speech.

I was wrong. You're even *crazier* than Magnulus!

Per Abrahamsen

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Feb 10, 2006, 9:19:06 AM2/10/06
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JAB <noch...@nohope.com> writes:

> pcgamer wrote:
>
>> I'm a PC Gamer and I have all the right to oppose the way
>> Valve is doing business and I have all the right to write
>> about it in this group. Anyone has the right to disagree,
>> but I have the right to have my opinion expressed in this
>> group.
>
> You seem to have made the common mistake that freedom of speech means
> that all opinions are equally valid.

More like that freedom of speech somehow means others have an
obligation to listen.

Mean Chlorine has the freedom to ignore anyone on Usenet, for whatever
reason he chooses.

magnate

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Feb 10, 2006, 9:39:51 AM2/10/06
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pcgamer wrote:

> I don't want to start a personal fight with anyone cause
> I will never turn this into personal issues with someone
> I have never meet and will for sure never, but what is in
> stake is the principal of the internet freedom of speech.

Unless you mean the High Champion of freedom of speech, you mean
"principle".

> The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows
> up to a post I write.

This is quite hard to test or prove. AFAIK there's no way to tell if
someone has killfilled me unless they choose to tell me.

So, MC - grateful if you could let me know if you're kfing me for this,
ok? Ta.

CC

Jonah Falcon

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Feb 10, 2006, 10:52:59 AM2/10/06
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You write like Yakof Smirnov.

What a country!

"pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139564984....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

John Lewis

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Feb 10, 2006, 2:03:20 PM2/10/06
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On 10 Feb 2006 01:49:44 -0800, "pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I won't KF you, but I sure took only 5 seconds to skim this
meandering, self-serving, poorly-written posting.

Please take classes in spelling, grammar, sentence-construction
concise writing and etiquette. If English is not your native
language, please take a 1 year break from all these newsgroups
until you have such mastery of English written communications.

OR

alternately post only to newsgroups/forums catering to your
native language.

OR

Just submit very short, concise, focussed postings well within
your (very-obvious) limited-English-composition capability.

John Lewis

Alex Mars

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Feb 10, 2006, 2:07:54 PM2/10/06
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I read the first post of this thread last night and couldn't imagine
anyone responding to it. Is everyone bored?

Message has been deleted

Shawk

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Feb 10, 2006, 2:44:19 PM2/10/06
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"John Lewis" <john...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43ece053...@news.verizon.net...

>
> I won't KF you, but I sure took only 5 seconds to skim this
> meandering, self-serving, poorly-written posting.
>
> Please take classes in spelling, grammar, sentence-construction
> concise writing and etiquette. If English is not your native
> language, please take a 1 year break from all these newsgroups
> until you have such mastery of English written communications.

It matters not who this post is directed at John, your arrogance astounds
me. If SK is genuine then he's Portugese. Can you type in Portugese?
Guy's got at least two languages, that's one more than me and no matter what
crap he spouts I've got to admire that.

> alternately post only to newsgroups/forums catering to your
> native language.

You saying the same for all the others that write here in a second language
and that make this NG as interesting as it is?

> Just submit very short, concise, focussed postings well within
> your (very-obvious) limited-English-composition capability.

Over use of unnecessary hyphens. Please see me after class... (hey - it is
a greenhouse and I couldn't resist that one)


Mean_Chlorine

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Feb 10, 2006, 3:31:26 PM2/10/06
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Thusly "Shawk" <sh...@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:

>It matters not who this post is directed at John, your arrogance astounds
>me. If SK is genuine then he's Portugese. Can you type in Portugese?
>Guy's got at least two languages, that's one more than me and no matter what
>crap he spouts I've got to admire that.

Half the newsgroup is bilingual or more, but the real problem isn't
his nonexistant grasp of English or even Portuguese grammar (the
portuguese DO use punctuation, for instance), but his tosspot ideas
and the excessive zeal with which he propounds them.

>Please see me after class... (hey - it is

Please say after me, class: steamfucker's a psychotic in need of a
higher dose of whatever medication he's now taking, and I won't feed
his frail ego by arguing with him any more.

--
O
-|- <--- Caricature of Muhammed.
/ \

NuQ

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Feb 10, 2006, 3:40:37 PM2/10/06
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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly "Shawk" <sh...@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
>
>> It matters not who this post is directed at John, your arrogance astounds
>> me. If SK is genuine then he's Portugese. Can you type in Portugese?
>> Guy's got at least two languages, that's one more than me and no matter what
>> crap he spouts I've got to admire that.
>
> Half the newsgroup is bilingual or more, but the real problem isn't
> his nonexistant grasp of English or even Portuguese grammar (the
> portuguese DO use punctuation, for instance), but his tosspot ideas
> and the excessive zeal with which he propounds them.

Bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily

<http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=bloviate>

Mean_Chlorine

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Feb 10, 2006, 4:04:57 PM2/10/06
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Thusly NuQ <N...@anonnnnn.com> Spake Unto All:

>> Half the newsgroup is bilingual or more, but the real problem isn't
>> his nonexistant grasp of English or even Portuguese grammar (the
>> portuguese DO use punctuation, for instance), but his tosspot ideas
>> and the excessive zeal with which he propounds them.
>
>Bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily
>
><http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=bloviate>

Buffoonery
n : acting like a clown or buffoon [syn: clowning, frivolity,
harlequinade, prank]
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=buffoonery

Shawk

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Feb 10, 2006, 4:29:53 PM2/10/06
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"Mean_Chlorine" <mike_no...@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6btpu1pbkg1jr9ttd...@4ax.com...

> Thusly "Shawk" <sh...@clara.co.uk.3guesses> Spake Unto All:
>
>>It matters not who this post is directed at John, your arrogance astounds
>>me. If SK is genuine then he's Portugese. Can you type in Portugese?
>>Guy's got at least two languages, that's one more than me and no matter
>>what
>>crap he spouts I've got to admire that.
>
> Half the newsgroup is bilingual or more, but the real problem isn't
> his nonexistant grasp of English or even Portuguese grammar (the
> portuguese DO use punctuation, for instance), but his tosspot ideas
> and the excessive zeal with which he propounds them.
>

I know what SK's prob is. It was JL's prob that wound me up


knight37

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Feb 10, 2006, 4:28:47 PM2/10/06
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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> >Bloviate: to speak or write verbosely and windily
> >
> ><http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=bloviate>
>
> Buffoonery
> n : acting like a clown or buffoon [syn: clowning, frivolity,
> harlequinade, prank]
> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=buffoonery

Assclown
n:
1 someone trying to be funny or cute but really just being a jackass.
2 someone not trying to be funny or cute, but is so much of a
jackass, it's funny.

Tim O

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Feb 10, 2006, 4:34:46 PM2/10/06
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:52:59 GMT, "Jonah Falcon"
<jonah...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>You write like Yakof Smirnov.
>
>What a country!

He's Yakof Jerkoff.

Mean_Chlorine

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Feb 10, 2006, 6:46:29 PM2/10/06
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Thusly "knight37" <knig...@gmail.com> Spake Unto All:

Twerp (also twirp)
n. Slang
A person regarded as insignificant and contemptible.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=twerp

Xocyll

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Feb 10, 2006, 6:55:56 PM2/10/06
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"Shawk" <sh...@clara.co.uk.3guesses> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>
>"John Lewis" <john...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:43ece053...@news.verizon.net...
>>
>> I won't KF you, but I sure took only 5 seconds to skim this
>> meandering, self-serving, poorly-written posting.
>>
>> Please take classes in spelling, grammar, sentence-construction
>> concise writing and etiquette. If English is not your native
>> language, please take a 1 year break from all these newsgroups
>> until you have such mastery of English written communications.
>
>It matters not who this post is directed at John, your arrogance astounds
>me. If SK is genuine then he's Portugese. Can you type in Portugese?
>Guy's got at least two languages, that's one more than me and no matter what
>crap he spouts I've got to admire that.

The problem with this viewpoint is that Steamnkiller/pcgamer's posts are
like someone making sculptures out of human feces.
No matter how artistic it is, in the end there's nothing more than a big
pile of shit.

He's a loony with one viewpoint that he repeats over and over and over.
He claims he's leaving forever and then he comes back under name after
name after name.
He bitches at people who buy games on sale, declaring that it's our duty
to buy immediately, without reading reviews or anything, and then lets
slip later that he buys all his games from bargain bins a year or more
after they are released.

In a picture dictionary you'd find his portrait under Hypocrite.

And here in this thread, he's ranting about free speech, and apparently
believes that means no one has the right to ignore him.

Funny how his "free speech" trumps your right to not listen isn't it?

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
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Mark Morrison

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Feb 10, 2006, 7:13:12 PM2/10/06
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On 10 Feb 2006 01:49:44 -0800, "pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows


>up to a post I write.
>He is killfile anyone who simply replies to me.

I'm drunk, I admit, but do these sentences make no sense ?

--

Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes !
They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses !
And what's with all the carrots ?
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway ?
Bunnies ! Bunnies ! It must be BUNNIES !

Tim O

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Feb 10, 2006, 7:53:25 PM2/10/06
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:13:12 +0000, Mark Morrison <drdp...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On 10 Feb 2006 01:49:44 -0800, "pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows
>>up to a post I write.
>>He is killfile anyone who simply replies to me.
>
>I'm drunk, I admit, but do these sentences make no sense ?

If everything else he's written except for those two sentences makes
sense to you, you're not just drunk, you need to check into rehab.

Tim

JT

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Feb 10, 2006, 8:10:33 PM2/10/06
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> He bitches at people who buy games on sale, declaring that it's our duty
> to buy immediately, without reading reviews or anything, and then lets
> slip later that he buys all his games from bargain bins a year or more
> after they are released.
>
> In a picture dictionary you'd find his portrait under Hypocrite.

You mean he's actually bought and played a game? I've never seen him discuss
playing a game, ever. Just the same insane nonsense about Steam and piracy
etc....ad nauseum. His new nick should be "pcLamer"


Mark Morrison

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Feb 10, 2006, 9:20:03 PM2/10/06
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I never actually got any further...

choykw

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Feb 10, 2006, 9:41:41 PM2/10/06
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"pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com>
???????:1139564984....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

>I don't want to start a personal fight with anyone cause
> I will never turn this into personal issues with someone

Then don't make any post targeted to any person, twat.

> I have never meet and will for sure never, but what is in
> stake is the principal of the internet freedom of speech.
>

> The poster Mean_Chlorine is killfile anyone that follows
> up to a post I write.
> He is killfile anyone who simply replies to me.

> He threats to and if someone follows-up he immediatly kill
> files that poster and notifies the all group about it and
> warns he will stay killfiled for 30 days.

He have all the rights to do what he please on his own newsreader, as long
as his action is not causing disturbance to others. His killfiling others
only caused him to read less posts, which a little portion of them might
actually be meaningful. He has been saving lots of his time for doing what
he did, which I'd say is wise. I might follow his way soon, but currently
I'm dead boring, so I'll find entertaining poking at twats like you.

> It seams like a joke does it? unfortunately it isn't.
> This didn't start yesterday... it is going on for over many
> months now and enough is enough...
> I've remain quiet since now but enough is enough.

oh, you've just forgeot to take you medication haven't you? Be a nice boy
and go take your medication and then keep quiet forever. You keeping quiet
may seem to be a gospel of harmony, but it's ruined as soon as you open your
trap. So, keep shutted forever and we may one day praise you for you
silence.

<snipped repeatitve nonsense>


pcgamer

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Feb 11, 2006, 5:03:17 AM2/11/06
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Per Abrahamsen wrote:

> Mean Chlorine has the freedom to ignore anyone on Usenet, for whatever
> reason he chooses.

No it is not that what Mean Chlorine wants

I'll give you the example that started it all

I started a thread about a page I made about "Product Activation"
It was MY thread
It was about MY page
He knows who am I so why didn't he ignored the all thread?
If he thinks what I write is garbage why didn't he simply ignored
the all thread.
Why didn't he simply marked the all thread as read and move along
Wouldn't it be so much easier? he would simply ignore a thread I
made but no, cause what he wants is more, he didn't do that cause
what he wants is to SILENCE me so he does the following, he picks
the persons that follow-up and write for all the group to see:
"you have been killfiled for 30 day"

Not only he wants every subject I start in this group to be ignored
but when someone break that rule he imposed he gets even with him,
cause he could simply "killfile" and move along but no, he must
then show all the group that the poster has been killfiled like a
punishment is being applied.
That is simply DISGUSTING!

pcgamer

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Feb 11, 2006, 5:09:29 AM2/11/06
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Gerry Quinn wrote:

> All that means is that he pretends he won't read their posts.

That's not it
If that would be so he would simply mark as read the threads
I started.
If you don't want to read my messages and you don't want to
read other follow ups to my messages you simply mark as read
a thread I started, and that was exactly what did not happen
I started I thread about a list I made of Product Activation


It was MY thread
It was about MY page

So he could have marked the thread all read and ignored but
no he had to go inside and humiliate posters that had follow
up to my message.
And what is his business if someone follows-up to my thread,
a thread I started about something I created.
What he wants to accomplish with this is condition other posters
to only write about the subjects he feels they would write about
That is censorship, but yes I admit Mean_Chlorine is doing this
in a very subtle and indirect way, so he can get away with this
cause obviously he doesn't want to be called a censor when he
so bravely criticizes countries with no freedom of expression.

pcgamer

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Feb 11, 2006, 5:13:01 AM2/11/06
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Mean_Chlorine wrote:

<snip>

You leave me alone
I'm asking you politely
Leave me alone!
Pretend I'm dead
Pretend I don't exist
BUT PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE!
And also leave alone those that reply to my posts
You have all the right to think what I write is TRASH
You have all the right to ignore me
You have all the right to killfile me
You have all the right to killfile anyone
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THE DISGUSTING PRESSURE
TO CONDITION WHAT POSTERS IN THIS GROUP SHOULD OR SHOULD
NOT REPLY TOO.
So please LEAVE alone anyone that replies to my posts!

Cause otherwise what you want is to condition the freedom
of speech in this group
Look at your signature! YOU ARE DOING THE SAME!
The ones that can't stand different points of view have
threaten the cartoon creators and you are doing the same
with those that reply to my posts
Either you stop your disgusting tactics against me in this
group or you prove you are a HYPOCRITE, cause the basis,
the line of thought is the same
TOTAL INTOLERANCE TO DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW
Are you totally intolerant to my different points of view
like some are also as intolerant to cartoons? is that it?
If so you have all that right to be intolerant to my views
but don't be HYPOCRITE and remove that sign immediately

<snip caricature>

Hypocrite!

pcgamer

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Feb 11, 2006, 5:15:50 AM2/11/06
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Xocyll wrote:

> In a picture dictionary you'd find his portrait under Hypocrite.

I don't pirate PC Games
I don't lend PC Games
I always buy PC Games NEW/Factory sealed
I don't re-sell my PC Games in the used 2nd hand market
I try my best to buy PC Games full price...
I'm not rich, I have a limited budget but I do try to buy
PC Game full price
I'll give you some examples of PC Games I've bought full
price in the last months:
. Quake 4
. Quake 4 Special Edition (Yes a second edition)
. FEAR
. Call of Duty 2
. Starship troopers
. Bet on Soldier
. Boiling Point
. Area 51
Yes probably it should be more but again I try my best.
And is this so special?
Does this make me special?
Not at all. This is nothing special. It is common sense.

So you can call me everything you want, thrash, stupid etc
but you can't call me HYPOCRITE! cause what I write in this
group is what I do!

pcgamer

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Feb 11, 2006, 5:18:35 AM2/11/06
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choykw wrote:

> He has been saving lots of his time for doing what he did

No he is not saving a lot of time, he is wasting a lot of
time and let me prove to you...
I started a thread
It was MY thread


He knows who am I

Also the thread is releated to a page I made. Created by me.
So obviously he doesn't want to waste time reading my stuff
we would completely mark as read or ignore the all thread,
cause it was a thread started by me about something I did
created, nothing easier right?
Well he didn't do that, and he choose to go inside MY thread
and pick posters that were contributing to the thread and in
a way clearly to show all the group and to humiliate the
poster, that he was killfiled for 30 days.

What Mean Chlorine did had a meaning and that is why he
wasted the time to check who was replying, to then killfile
and to create a message so all the group could read about
what does happen if someone dares replying to something I
just wrote.

chainbreaker

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:02:51 AM2/11/06
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pcgamer wrote:
> Not only he wants every subject I start in this group to be ignored
> but when someone break that rule he imposed he gets even with him,
> cause he could simply "killfile" and move along but no, he must
> then show all the group that the poster has been killfiled like a
> punishment is being applied.
> That is simply DISGUSTING!

Uh, one question--why do you even care?
--
chainbreaker


pcgamer

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:28:24 AM2/11/06
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chainbreaker wrote:

> Uh, one question--why do you even care?

If I might, please let me throw back the question...
This group is not that important to me... but shouldn't I
care if someone is trying to SILENCE me?
Don't you like to be able to write about PC Games in this
group with total freedom?
If someone would try to take that from you, what would you
do? Would you let him? Would you not care? Would you
keep quiet?

Message has been deleted

pcgamer

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:34:25 AM2/11/06
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Shawk wrote:

> It matters not who this post is directed at John, your arrogance astounds

What is more arrogant to you?
Lewis thing which he has been doing since ever...
I have learned to live with Lewis insults since I can
remember being in this group
or the way Mean_Chlorine is trying to silencing me?
What is more arrogant than a single poster killfile
other posters not cause of what they write but simply
cause they have dared to follow up to a particular
poster, me.
Arrogancy must be Mean_Chlorine middle name
Yes Lewis is extremely arrogant and insensitive cause
he has been savagely insulting me but at least he always
played fair, savagely insult when we wants but does not
try all the dirty tactics Mean_Chlorine does.
Mean_Chlorine is arrogant but also a hypocrite censor
which only wants freedom of speech to himself.
And yes conditioning freedom of speech like he is doing
is censorship.
Mean_Chlorine is much more dangerous
The "Mean" in his alias has a meaning...

Lewis is part of the territory, if I want to be part of
the usenet and this group I must learn to be violently
insulted by people like him, but Mean_Chlorine is a very
different matter... Mean_Chlorine is much more damaging
cause he doesn't want to insult or humiliate me but
rather SILENCE me altogether, make me disappear completely.

And btw, you haven't directly follow-up to any of my
posts in quite sometime... are you afraid?
Shawk are you afraid of being killfile by Mean_Chlorine?
Are you being conditioned when replying to this group?
This is really what I find so damaging and sad...
Mean_Chlorine is limiting the freedom of expression in this
group and that is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE
So instead of Lewis usual arrogancy you would be way more
concerned with that.
And this is a lesson to everyone... in the western world,
those that criticize countries with no freedom of speech,
they do try censorship but obviously in a subtle way, a
way in which they can get away with it...
Very very sad...

chainbreaker

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:48:57 AM2/11/06
to

Boy, you really are effed up--either that or you don't, won't, or can't
understand ordinary English.

He's not trying to silence you, he's just not *listening* to you.

And from now on, neither am I.

--
chainbreaker


Gerry Quinn

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:53:41 AM2/11/06
to
In article <1139653115....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
pcgame...@yahoo.com says...

> choykw wrote:
>
> > He has been saving lots of his time for doing what he did
>
> No he is not saving a lot of time, he is wasting a lot of
> time and let me prove to you...
> I started a thread
> It was MY thread
> He knows who am I

I started a thread
That set the whole world laughing
But I didn't see
That the joke was on me....

[With apologies to the BeeGees]

- Gerry Quinn

Gerry Quinn

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Feb 11, 2006, 7:01:22 AM2/11/06
to
In article <1139652569.3...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
pcgame...@yahoo.com says...

> Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> > All that means is that he pretends he won't read their posts.
>
> That's not it
> If that would be so he would simply mark as read the threads
> I started.

But that would be doing it, not pretending to.

> So he could have marked the thread all read and ignored but
> no he had to go inside and humiliate posters that had follow
> up to my message.
> And what is his business if someone follows-up to my thread,
> a thread I started about something I created.

He made it his business. What business of yours is product activation?

> What he wants to accomplish with this is condition other posters
> to only write about the subjects he feels they would write about
> That is censorship, but yes I admit Mean_Chlorine is doing this
> in a very subtle and indirect way, so he can get away with this
> cause obviously he doesn't want to be called a censor when he
> so bravely criticizes countries with no freedom of expression.

You assume that anyone cares whether Mean Chlorine is pretending to
filter them.

- Gerry Quinn


GSV Three Minds in a Can

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Feb 11, 2006, 7:01:50 AM2/11/06
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Bitstring <1139653115....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, from
the wonderful person pcgamer <pcgame...@yahoo.com> said

>choykw wrote:
>
>> He has been saving lots of his time for doing what he did
>
>No he is not saving a lot of time, he is wasting a lot of
>time and let me prove to you...
>I started a thread
>It was MY thread
>He knows who am I

If he has you killfiled he would not see who started the thread. He'd
have seen the thread started when someone replied. You can't kill a
thread before you've looked at at least one message to ascertain what
it's about and to get the thread title. Big waste of time in your case.

Yes, he's suggesting that people who reply to you are wasting their
time, and they need to pick between talking to you, or talking to him,
can't have both. Personally I'd rather have him, but it's a close call.

You may remember this sort of behaviour from 1st grade ('I'm not your
friend if you play with Pete'.

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

GSV Three Minds in a Can

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:57:08 AM2/11/06
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Bitstring <1139657304.0...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, from
the idiot pcgamer <pcgame...@yahoo.com> said

They're not trying to silence you, you idiot, they're just trying to
avoid reading what you write, which includes reading it when some other
dipstick quotes it.

I do the same thing when people persist in replying to spam (which I
have filtered our to never see) - the folks who reply go on my 'never
see' list too.

Wait, something's missing .. oh yes <plonk>

Andrew

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Feb 11, 2006, 7:16:14 AM2/11/06
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:01:50 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can
<G...@quik.clara.co.uk> wrote:

>If he has you killfiled he would not see who started the thread. He'd
>have seen the thread started when someone replied. You can't kill a
>thread before you've looked at at least one message to ascertain what
>it's about and to get the thread title. Big waste of time in your case.

Fortunately Agent lets me create a killfile rule so I can ignore a
thread started by the insane f***wit, unfortunately I have to create
it again for each name change and I get to read his insanity second
hand again.
--
Andrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com
Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

redTed

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Feb 11, 2006, 8:42:55 AM2/11/06
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> If so you have all that right to be intolerant to my views
> but don't be HYPOCRITE and remove that sign immediately
>
> <snip caricature>
>
> Hypocrite!

Oooh, good point.
Really.


Alfred Pum

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Feb 11, 2006, 8:48:39 AM2/11/06
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"JT" <j...@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:t6ednY5a4_U...@cablespeedmd.com...

>
> You mean he's actually bought and played a game? I've never seen him
discuss
> playing a game, ever. Just the same insane nonsense about Steam and piracy
> etc....ad nauseum. His new nick should be "pcLamer"
>

Don't forget the boxes! A game is nothing without a proper box...

"Algae eating, bottom feeding, scum sucker" That'd fit, too.

Shawk

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Feb 11, 2006, 8:52:42 AM2/11/06
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"pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1139657665.7...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Shawk wrote:
>
>> It matters not who this post is directed at John, your arrogance astounds
>
> What is more arrogant to you?

I'll take what seems to be bigotry over ignoring someone anyday

> Lewis thing which he has been doing since ever...
> I have learned to live with Lewis insults since I can
> remember being in this group

Fine, you deserve most of them. I will still pass comments on things that
offend me tho'

> or the way Mean_Chlorine is trying to silencing me?

MC is ignoring you not silencing you. If he KF's me for this post that's
entirely his call and I'll see him again in 30 days - no biggie

(Rambling crap snipped)

> And btw, you haven't directly follow-up to any of my
> posts in quite sometime... are you afraid?
> Shawk are you afraid of being killfile by Mean_Chlorine?

No. You dont often say anything worth replying to. TBH I'm not sure why
I've bothered now but it's a break from decorating...


Quaestor

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Feb 11, 2006, 9:57:05 AM2/11/06
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Well, since you replied to him, *PLONK*

--
Godwin is a net-nazi
Learn about spam: http://www.seige-perilous.org/spam/spam.html

Quaestor

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Feb 11, 2006, 9:59:44 AM2/11/06
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Alfred Pum wrote:

There's someone on line 2, says he represents the Alga-eating,
Bottom-feeding, Scum-suckers International, and he wants to talk about a
defamatory statement you made about them.

Dan Lingman

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Feb 11, 2006, 10:42:02 AM2/11/06
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"pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1139657304.007026.157470
@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Nothing can take that away from you.

Nothing says I need to click on any of the articles you've posted either.

Does the fact that I don't even subscribe to alt.games.diablo2.moderated
mean that I'm somehow silencing everyone who posts in there? I don't read
any of their stuff either.

Do you read everything you walk past? If so, I hope you never encounter a
bookstore, or you'll starve to death before you get out of there.

Your so called right to free speech does not imply you have a right to an
audience.

Dan.

markB

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Feb 11, 2006, 11:16:42 AM2/11/06
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pcgamer wrote:

In case you haven't gotten it yet...

A killfile keeps *one* person, on *his own* machine, from seeing posts
through individualized filters. Rest assured your glorious exposition
travels the world to the delight of billions.

-mb

PS There may be many Usenet FAQs of value to you.

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Alfie [UK]

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Feb 11, 2006, 11:50:08 AM2/11/06
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:16:14 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:01:50 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can
><G...@quik.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>If he has you killfiled he would not see who started the thread. He'd
>>have seen the thread started when someone replied. You can't kill a
>>thread before you've looked at at least one message to ascertain what
>>it's about and to get the thread title. Big waste of time in your case.
>
>Fortunately Agent lets me create a killfile rule so I can ignore a
>thread started by the insane f***wit, unfortunately I have to create
>it again for each name change and I get to read his insanity second
>hand again.

I take it you're using something like;

Author: AUTHOR and not Subject: {Re:}

Agent will let you use the address or nickname as AUTHOR and ignore any
thread started by the AUTHOR, and works for sub-threads as well.
--
Alfie
<http://www.delphia.co.uk/>
It's Not Fair! - You say that so often, I wonder what's your basis for comparison ?

Andrew

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Feb 11, 2006, 12:09:22 PM2/11/06
to
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:50:08 +0000, "Alfie [UK]" <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

>I take it you're using something like;
>
> Author: AUTHOR and not Subject: {Re:}
>
>Agent will let you use the address or nickname as AUTHOR and ignore any
>thread started by the AUTHOR, and works for sub-threads as well.

That's the one. I have got it in place for his new tag now, so
hopefully I won't have read the idiots that rise to his bait. I
already have several of the regs to this group KF'ed, if I followed
MC's example as strictly as he does, I would only see a handful of
posts!

Uberfuhrer_Mean_Arrogancy_Chlorine

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Feb 11, 2006, 12:35:31 PM2/11/06
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Thusly Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> Spake Unto All:

>already have several of the regs to this group KF'ed, if I followed
>MC's example as strictly as he does, I would only see a handful of
>posts!

Yep. As amazing as it is to me, steamfucker definitely got a
resounding vote of support to his plea. He's back, and this time by
public demand. Enjoy.

--
O
-|- <--- Caricature of Muhammed.
/ \

Xocyll

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Feb 11, 2006, 3:55:31 PM2/11/06
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"chainbreaker" <no...@nowhere.com> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

Because, like any attention seeking kook, he's deathly afraid of being
ignored.
If people like MC start killfiling people that respond to kook boy they
might stop (so as to not get killfiled) and then pcgamer would be
ranting to an empty room getting exactly as much attention as he
deserves.

Steamkiller/pcgamer reminds me a lot of a tantrum throwing 2 year old
deperate for attention.

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

Nostromo

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:05:20 PM2/11/06
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Thus spake GSV Three Minds in a Can <G...@quik.clara.co.uk>, Sat, 11 Feb 2006
12:01:50 +0000, Anno Domini:

>Bitstring <1139653115....@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, from
>the wonderful person pcgamer <pcgame...@yahoo.com> said
>>choykw wrote:
>>
>>> He has been saving lots of his time for doing what he did
>>
>>No he is not saving a lot of time, he is wasting a lot of
>>time and let me prove to you...
>>I started a thread
>>It was MY thread
>>He knows who am I
>
>If he has you killfiled he would not see who started the thread. He'd
>have seen the thread started when someone replied. You can't kill a
>thread before you've looked at at least one message to ascertain what
>it's about and to get the thread title. Big waste of time in your case.
>
>Yes, he's suggesting that people who reply to you are wasting their
>time, and they need to pick between talking to you, or talking to him,
>can't have both. Personally I'd rather have him, but it's a close call.

Now there's the pot crossposting the kettle black!

>You may remember this sort of behaviour from 1st grade ('I'm not your
>friend if you play with Pete'.

Worked then, works now. After all, it's just the same as international
politics. :)

--
A killfile is a friend for life.

Replace 'spamfree' with the other word for 'maze' to reply via email.

Nostromo

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:09:33 PM2/11/06
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Thus spake Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>, Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:09:22 +0000,
Anno Domini:

>On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:50:08 +0000, "Alfie [UK]" <m...@privacy.net>
>wrote:
>
>>I take it you're using something like;
>>
>> Author: AUTHOR and not Subject: {Re:}
>>
>>Agent will let you use the address or nickname as AUTHOR and ignore any
>>thread started by the AUTHOR, and works for sub-threads as well.
>
>That's the one. I have got it in place for his new tag now, so
>hopefully I won't have read the idiots that rise to his bait. I
>already have several of the regs to this group KF'ed, if I followed
>MC's example as strictly as he does, I would only see a handful of
>posts!

Works a treat! Mine is:

author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer) and
not subject: {re:}

On that note, must upgrade to v3.2 today. What the hell, ey?

Nostromo

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:11:22 PM2/11/06
to
Thus spake Uberfuhrer_Mean_Arrogancy_Chlorine
<mike_no...@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk>, Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:35:31 +0100, Anno
Domini:

>Thusly Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> Spake Unto All:
>
>>already have several of the regs to this group KF'ed, if I followed
>>MC's example as strictly as he does, I would only see a handful of
>>posts!
>
>Yep. As amazing as it is to me, steamfucker definitely got a
>resounding vote of support to his plea. He's back, and this time by
>public demand. Enjoy.

What's the problem with KFing his supporters for a period of time? Let's
just stop & think about this kids, shall we? ... What in the world could
they have to say to him or he to them that would be of interest to _any_
sane person anyway??? ... <penny drops>

Nostromo

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:13:30 PM2/11/06
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Thus spake "Alfie [UK]" <m...@privacy.net>, Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:50:08 +0000,
Anno Domini:

>On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:16:14 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:01:50 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can
>><G...@quik.clara.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>If he has you killfiled he would not see who started the thread. He'd
>>>have seen the thread started when someone replied. You can't kill a
>>>thread before you've looked at at least one message to ascertain what
>>>it's about and to get the thread title. Big waste of time in your case.
>>
>>Fortunately Agent lets me create a killfile rule so I can ignore a
>>thread started by the insane f***wit, unfortunately I have to create
>>it again for each name change and I get to read his insanity second
>>hand again.
>
>I take it you're using something like;
>
> Author: AUTHOR and not Subject: {Re:}
>
>Agent will let you use the address or nickname as AUTHOR and ignore any
>thread started by the AUTHOR, and works for sub-threads as well.

There's only one downside to using this filter: you ignore the entire
threads & thus the people who reply to him, so they may escape KFing for a
while under Rule #2. But eventually they come out in other threads that SK
doesn't start ;)

Andrew

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:42:46 PM2/11/06
to
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:09:33 +1100, Nostromo
<nost...@spamfree.net.au> wrote:

>Works a treat! Mine is:
>
>author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer) and
>not subject: {re:}

Thanks for that, I have never found a good guide on what the syntax is
for Agent filters.

>On that note, must upgrade to v3.2 today. What the hell, ey?

I didn't know that was out. Bloody Forte, you pay them good money and
they can't be bothered to email you when they bring out their once
yearly update :-(

Nostromo

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:44:50 PM2/11/06
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Thus spake Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>, Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:42:46 +0000,
Anno Domini:

>On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:09:33 +1100, Nostromo
><nost...@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Works a treat! Mine is:
>>
>>author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer) and
>>not subject: {re:}
>
>Thanks for that, I have never found a good guide on what the syntax is
>for Agent filters.
>
>>On that note, must upgrade to v3.2 today. What the hell, ey?
>
>I didn't know that was out. Bloody Forte, you pay them good money and
>they can't be bothered to email you when they bring out their once
>yearly update :-(

Hmmm...they emailed me. Have you got a registered version of 2.0+?
But be warned, it's rather different & not everyone likes it, from all the
crap I read in the newsgroup. Take a full backup of your Data sub-directory
before you take the plunge ;).

Andrew

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Feb 11, 2006, 6:49:54 PM2/11/06
to
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:44:50 +1100, Nostromo
<nost...@spamfree.net.au> wrote:

>Hmmm...they emailed me. Have you got a registered version of 2.0+?

Registered 1 and registered 2. I have never had an email from them.

>But be warned, it's rather different & not everyone likes it, from all the
>crap I read in the newsgroup. Take a full backup of your Data sub-directory
>before you take the plunge ;).

I gave up on that group, far too many trolls and people that wouldn't
be happy if the program gave them a blow job while downloading new
headers.

Andrew

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Feb 11, 2006, 7:28:33 PM2/11/06
to
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:44:50 +1100, Nostromo
<nost...@spamfree.net.au> wrote:

>But be warned, it's rather different & not everyone likes it, from all the
>crap I read in the newsgroup. Take a full backup of your Data sub-directory
>before you take the plunge ;).

I just did the upgrade. My main screen is exactly the same as before,
this message composition screen is a bit funkier with a couple of
useful additions, but all the settings are the same as before. Seems a
worthwhile upgrade to me :-)

chainbreaker

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Feb 11, 2006, 7:32:18 PM2/11/06
to
Xocyll wrote:
>> Uh, one question--why do you even care?
>
> Because, like any attention seeking kook, he's deathly afraid of being
> ignored.
> If people like MC start killfiling people that respond to kook boy
> they might stop (so as to not get killfiled) and then pcgamer would be
> ranting to an empty room getting exactly as much attention as he
> deserves.
>
> Steamkiller/pcgamer reminds me a lot of a tantrum throwing 2 year old
> deperate for attention.
>
> Xocyll

I'm pretty sure that was only the second time I'd ever responded to him, or
even posted to a thread he'd started (or maybe even posted to himself)--the
first and last.

--
chainbreaker


Nostromo

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Feb 11, 2006, 7:52:20 PM2/11/06
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Thus spake Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>, Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:49:54 +0000,
Anno Domini:

>On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:44:50 +1100, Nostromo
><nost...@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Hmmm...they emailed me. Have you got a registered version of 2.0+?
>
>Registered 1 and registered 2. I have never had an email from them.
>
>>But be warned, it's rather different & not everyone likes it, from all the
>>crap I read in the newsgroup. Take a full backup of your Data sub-directory
>>before you take the plunge ;).
>
>I gave up on that group, far too many trolls and people that wouldn't
>be happy if the program gave them a blow job while downloading new
>headers.

Too bloody true lol! But it can be a laugh. I must confess, it's so easy to
troll in there, I had to unsubscribe as I was becoming more & more like Dr
Evil >;-)

Nostromo

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Feb 11, 2006, 7:53:21 PM2/11/06
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Thus spake Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>, Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:28:33 +0000,
Anno Domini:

>On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:44:50 +1100, Nostromo
><nost...@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>
>>But be warned, it's rather different & not everyone likes it, from all the
>>crap I read in the newsgroup. Take a full backup of your Data sub-directory
>>before you take the plunge ;).
>
>I just did the upgrade. My main screen is exactly the same as before,
>this message composition screen is a bit funkier with a couple of
>useful additions, but all the settings are the same as before. Seems a
>worthwhile upgrade to me :-)

Yeah, so I've gathered by reading between the lines. Not a must-have
upgrade, but worthwhile nonetheless if you need a few key changes, like
multiple mail servers & whatnot. Ok, here I goooooooooooooooooo....

Message has been deleted

Xocyll

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Feb 12, 2006, 2:27:03 AM2/12/06
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"JT" <j...@mail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn

spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>> He bitches at people who buy games on sale, declaring that it's our duty
>> to buy immediately, without reading reviews or anything, and then lets
>> slip later that he buys all his games from bargain bins a year or more
>> after they are released.
>>
>> In a picture dictionary you'd find his portrait under Hypocrite.


>
>You mean he's actually bought and played a game? I've never seen him discuss
>playing a game, ever. Just the same insane nonsense about Steam and piracy
>etc....ad nauseum. His new nick should be "pcLamer"

Well he's claimed to have bought several games, although since he hasn't
said anything about the gameplay (no likes, dislikes or wishes) of any
of those games you have to wonder if he's just claiming to buy them.

Well then he did comment about the box art on some of them, but you
don't need to buy a game to see the box.

Alfie [UK]

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Feb 12, 2006, 4:36:51 AM2/12/06
to
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:42:46 +0000, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:09:33 +1100, Nostromo
><nost...@spamfree.net.au> wrote:
>>Works a treat! Mine is:
>>
>>author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer) and
>>not subject: {re:}
>
>Thanks for that, I have never found a good guide on what the syntax is
>for Agent filters.
>
>>On that note, must upgrade to v3.2 today. What the hell, ey?
>
>I didn't know that was out. Bloody Forte, you pay them good money and
>they can't be bothered to email you when they bring out their once
>yearly update :-(

Seconded, they never tell me about upgrades...mind you at least v3.2 has
automatic update checks now :)
--
Alfie
<http://www.delphia.co.uk/>
User has insufficient intelligence to complete this task, please insert a new user.

Alfie [UK]

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Feb 12, 2006, 4:44:14 AM2/12/06
to
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:13:30 +1100, Nostromo <nost...@spamfree.net.au>
wrote:

>There's only one downside to using this filter: you ignore the entire
>threads & thus the people who reply to him, so they may escape KFing for a
>while under Rule #2. But eventually they come out in other threads that SK
>doesn't start ;)

Surely that's the point, you're not KFing others indiscriminately but
you also don't have to read troll threads, and rants.
--
Alfie
<http://www.delphia.co.uk/>
They say suffering brings wisdom. I say prepare to have enlightenment beaten into your bitch-ass.

Message has been deleted

Lizard

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Feb 12, 2006, 2:42:38 PM2/12/06
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On 11 Feb 2006 02:03:17 -0800, "pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com>
wrotC:DRIVE_E

>Why didn't he simply marked the all thread as read and move along
>Wouldn't it be so much easier? he would simply ignore a thread I
>made but no, cause what he wants is more, he didn't do that cause
>what he wants is to SILENCE me so he does the following, he picks
>the persons that follow-up and write for all the group to see:
>"you have been killfiled for 30 day"

And why would WE care who HE killfiles? If he's not reading my posts,
that doesn't bother me in the least. No skin off my nose.

I'd tell you to get a life, but I think you're far beyond that stage.
Get medication. Seriously.

Lizard

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Feb 12, 2006, 2:40:03 PM2/12/06
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Uhm...all a killfile does is affect the *user*, not anyone else. It
cannot be a means of censoring anything. By your 'logic', anyone who
doesn't look at "Playboy" is "censoring" it.

Of course, this ignorance on your part merely makes his actions more
logical. You're clearly a moron, and time to read Usenet is limited,
so filtering out posts by known morons so they don't clutter up the
screen makes perfect sense.

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Nostromo

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Feb 12, 2006, 9:42:07 PM2/12/06
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Thus spake "Alfie [UK]" <m...@privacy.net>, Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:44:14 +0000,
Anno Domini:

>On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:13:30 +1100, Nostromo <nost...@spamfree.net.au>
>wrote:
>>There's only one downside to using this filter: you ignore the entire
>>threads & thus the people who reply to him, so they may escape KFing for a
>>while under Rule #2. But eventually they come out in other threads that SK
>>doesn't start ;)
>
>Surely that's the point, you're not KFing others indiscriminately but
>you also don't have to read troll threads, and rants.

I guess you can look at it both ways...though I still say it's less
efficient in weeding out the wallies ;)

Johnny Bravo

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Feb 13, 2006, 12:34:16 AM2/13/06
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On 10 Feb 2006 01:49:44 -0800, "pcgamer" <pcgame...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I don't want to start a personal fight with anyone cause
>I will never turn this into personal issues with someone
>I have never meet and will for sure never, but what is in
>stake is the principal of the internet freedom of speech.

To put it bluntly; why do you give a fuck?

What is so important about Mean_Chlorine that you had to whine like a toy
deprived child to two seperate newsgroups about him not reading your posts and
killfiling anyone who responds to your bullshit knowing full well that he won't
see it and anyone who responds to you, either agreeing or disagreeing, will get
killfiled as well?

Your freedom to spout insane bullshit isn't accompanied by a freedom to make
anyone listen to it, especially someone who doesn't give a fuck about your
idiotic crusade against free enterprise.

Truth be told, you're getting boring kid. Enough so that I'm joining
Mean_Chlorine in "censoring" you. You start another thread and I'll killfile
you and anyone who replies to you for 30 days. The really amusing thing is that
you are the only person who will care if I killfile them.

Johnny Bravo

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Feb 13, 2006, 12:37:32 AM2/13/06
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:57:05 -0800, Quaestor <no-...@my.place> wrote:

>GSV Three Minds in a Can wrote:
>
>> Bitstring <1139657304.0...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> from the idiot pcgamer <pcgame...@yahoo.com> said


>>
>>> chainbreaker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uh, one question--why do you even care?
>>>
>>>

>>> If I might, please let me throw back the question...
>>> This group is not that important to me... but shouldn't I
>>> care if someone is trying to SILENCE me?
>>> Don't you like to be able to write about PC Games in this
>>> group with total freedom?
>>> If someone would try to take that from you, what would you
>>> do? Would you let him? Would you not care? Would you
>>> keep quiet?
>>
>>
>> They're not trying to silence you, you idiot, they're just trying to
>> avoid reading what you write, which includes reading it when some
>> other dipstick quotes it.
>>
>> I do the same thing when people persist in replying to spam (which I
>> have filtered our to never see) - the folks who reply go on my 'never
>> see' list too.
>>
>> Wait, something's missing .. oh yes <plonk>
>
>
>Well, since you replied to him, *PLONK*

But you quoted pcgamer in the reply, I bet he plonks you back.

This is going to be both silly and fun at the same time. :)

Johnny Bravo

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Feb 13, 2006, 12:41:44 AM2/13/06
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:52:59 GMT, "Jonah Falcon" <jonah...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>You write like Yakof Smirnov.
>
>What a country!

In Soviet Russia, Steam activates you!

Johnny Bravo

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Feb 13, 2006, 12:48:36 AM2/13/06
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:01:50 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can
<G...@quik.clara.co.uk> wrote:

>Yes, he's suggesting that people who reply to you are wasting their
>time, and they need to pick between talking to you, or talking to him,
>can't have both. Personally I'd rather have him, but it's a close call.

I'd say its a bit more accurate to say he's suggesting that people who reply
to pcgamer are wasting Mean_Chlorine's time and he's well within his rights to
determine if someone or something is wasting his time and a killfile is a
perfectly acceptable method on uselet to keep that wasted time to a bare
minimum.

Per Abrahamsen

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Feb 13, 2006, 8:05:27 AM2/13/06
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Walter Mitty <mitt...@gmail.com> writes:

> In fairness, assuming people could give a shit whether MC
> killfiles them or not, steamlamer does have a point.

That's a big assumption.

> They would be petrified to reply in case MC wields his killfile of
> power and killfiles them thus rendering the rest of their
> non-steamwheener related posts immune to the casual appraisal of
> aforementioned NG leader and de-flowerer of countless virgins.
>
> It's a tricky one.

No it's not. Freedom of speech also applies to influential people.

pcgamer is, like a zillion kooks before him, nothing but a hypocrite
when he wants to silence Mean_Chlorine in the name of free speech.

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Xocyll

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Feb 13, 2006, 1:11:38 PM2/13/06
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Johnny Bravo <baawa_...@yahoo.com> looked up from reading the

entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:01:50 +0000, GSV Three Minds in a Can

Analogy time.
MC has his window open, listening and talking to the neighbors, and has
let them know that if they play loud rap music (talking to pcgamer) he's
going to close the window and stop talking to them until they stop.

MC isn't controlling the neighbors, he's just let them know a
circumstance under which he's going to ignore them, they're still free
to do that activity.

Or you could compare it to smoking (now that smoking is far more rare)
MC saying "If you light that thing, i'm out of here", does NOT stop them
from lighting the cigarette, it just lets them know that if they do,
he's gone.

Mean_Chlorine

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Feb 13, 2006, 2:49:01 PM2/13/06
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Thusly Per Abrahamsen <abr...@dina.kvl.dk> Spake Unto All:

>Walter Mitty <mitt...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> In fairness, assuming people could give a shit whether MC
>> killfiles them or not, steamlamer does have a point.
>
>That's a big assumption.

Sure is. Hell, even I hardly care about my views.

>pcgamer is, like a zillion kooks before him, nothing but a hypocrite
>when he wants to silence Mean_Chlorine in the name of free speech.

He's not that subtle. What this is really about, is that his FUD was
no longer generating the attention he craves to feed his frail ego.
As he's unable to understand that wasn't because of my embargo but
because people killfile him for being a raving lunatic, he concludes
that I am scaring people from responding to his posts.

So what does a nutjob do in a situation like that?
Obviously he changes nick so he gets out of peoples killfiles, and
scream about the horrible injustice of this censorship.
And very successfully.
His appeal that everyone should reply to show they're not afraid of me
got, what, 30? 40? replies. Hell, he even got Walter here confused.

In his mind those responses are an overwhelming vote of support.
People dared respond, despite the threat from Evil Uberfuhrer Mean and
his Godly Killfile of Power. His frail ego and faith in humanity thus
bolstered, he's now ready to resume his tro^d^d^d information about
the evils of Steam, Valve, and female gamers - and frankly this ng has
fucking asked for it.

--
O
-|- <--- Caricature of Muhammed.
/ \

Lizard

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Feb 13, 2006, 2:36:45 PM2/13/06
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On 12 Feb 2006 22:02:20 GMT, Walter Mitty <mitt...@gmail.com>
wrotC:DRIVE_E

> "Lizard" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies mastering
> mommies computer when he ventured forth on 2006-02-12, commmitted
> his life to the whims of Google, and spluttered:

>The analogy is wrong. MC threatened to killfile OTHERS who replied to
>steamgaymers posts. This might have influenced their posting habits
>because they DO care not to be killfiled.

Not really. Again, we're talking about *one person* who isn't seeing
the posts. No one is going to give a damn that "mean chlorine" has
killfiled them. No one will refuse to post out of fear that one person
of the many thousands who still read Usenet will not see their
messages.

If you have something of value to say, the only person being harmed by
you being killfiled is MC. If you have nothing of value to say, you
won't care if anyone reads your posts or not.

Therefore the threat of the
>killfiling did indeed have an impact on those other than steamlamer and
>was indeed a form of, mild, censorship.

It takes a tremendous amount of illogic to claim someone saying "I'm
not going to read your posts!" is censorship. Censorship is preventing
*other* people from reading your posts.

A man who covers his own eyes censors no one.

John Secker

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Feb 13, 2006, 6:01:02 PM2/13/06
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In message <q870v1h4gglannb9a...@4ax.com>, Johnny Bravo
<baawa_...@yahoo.com> writes
I agree - this whole thread is bizarre. MC is refusing to read stuff he
doesn't want to read. Same as if he refused to read any newspaper that
opposes the Iraq war. That's not "censorship", it's discerning
consumption (discerning by his standards). Even if he organises a bunch
of other people to do the same, it's still not censorship, it's a
boycott.
--
John Secker

Johnny Bravo

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Feb 13, 2006, 7:27:08 PM2/13/06
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On 13 Feb 2006 13:51:09 GMT, Walter Mitty <mitt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Per" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies mastering
> mommies computer when he ventured forth on 2006-02-13, commmitted


> his life to the whims of Google, and spluttered:
>

>pclamer might be a kook : but he doesnt threaten to killfile people
>who disagree with him. So there is a big difference. pclamer is NOT
>trying to silence MC : he is questioning MCs tactic of threatening
>people who reply to steamgamer with his killfile of power. Again, big difference..

The only difference is the opposite goals, MC is conducting a protest in the
belief that his "internet freedom of speech" includes the right to try to
convince people to freely decide to ignore PCG; PCG is conducting a
counter-protest in the mistaken belief that his "internet freedom of speech" is
being violated by someone who freely chooses to ignore him and encourages others
to freely choose the same.

Quaestor

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Feb 13, 2006, 10:39:04 PM2/13/06
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John Secker wrote:

> I agree - this whole thread is bizarre. MC is refusing to read stuff
> he doesn't want to read. Same as if he refused to read any newspaper
> that opposes the Iraq war. That's not "censorship", it's discerning
> consumption (discerning by his standards). Even if he organises a
> bunch of other people to do the same, it's still not censorship, it's
> a boycott.


It can also be likened to shoving his head ... somewhere. :p

(I'm not worried, he's got me plonked, remember?)

--
Godwin is a net-nazi
Learn about spam: http://www.seige-perilous.org/spam/spam.html

Per Abrahamsen

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Feb 16, 2006, 8:19:20 AM2/16/06
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Quaestor <no-...@my.place> writes:

> It can also be likened to shoving his head ... somewhere. :p

Given that it is pcgamer he is ignoring, a better analogy might be
that he choose *not* sticking his head ... somewhere.

Both are crap avoiding tactics.

Quaestor

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Feb 16, 2006, 1:24:13 PM2/16/06
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Per Abrahamsen wrote:

Ignoring an idiot is good. Ignoring those who tell the idiot to go to
hell is rediculous.

Andrew

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Feb 16, 2006, 2:19:52 PM2/16/06
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:24:13 -0800, Quaestor <no-...@my.place> wrote:

>Ignoring an idiot is good. Ignoring those who tell the idiot to go to
>hell is rediculous.

If that was what they did and had the sense to killfile him, we
wouldn't have this problem. Unfortunately after over a year of his
incessant insanity, people still try and talk sense to him, or insult
him, he comprehends none of it and feels compelled to keep posting.
--
Andrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com
Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

Mean_Chlorine

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Feb 16, 2006, 5:01:37 PM2/16/06
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Thusly Per Abrahamsen <abr...@dina.kvl.dk> Spake Unto All:

>Quaestor <no-...@my.place> writes:

And it's working well.

chainbreaker

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Feb 16, 2006, 10:55:09 PM2/16/06
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Andrew wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:24:13 -0800, Quaestor <no-...@my.place> wrote:
>
>> Ignoring an idiot is good. Ignoring those who tell the idiot to go
>> to hell is rediculous.
>
> If that was what they did and had the sense to killfile him, we
> wouldn't have this problem. Unfortunately after over a year of his
> incessant insanity, people still try and talk sense to him, or insult
> him, he comprehends none of it and feels compelled to keep posting.

But if that happened we'd all have to pay for entertainment.

Yeah, yeah, I know we pay for this, too, but no quibbling.

--
chainbreaker


BuckFush

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Feb 19, 2006, 1:20:24 PM2/19/06
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Johnny Bravo wrote:
> Truth be told, you're getting boring kid. Enough so that I'm
> joining Mean_Chlorine in "censoring" you. You start another thread
> and I'll killfile you and anyone who replies to you for 30 days. The
> really amusing thing is that you are the only person who will care if
> I killfile them.

And I'm joining both of you guys, except I'm killfiling everyone who replies
to that moron for 60 days instead - double the punishment, double the
pleasure I say. Anybody else care to join our crusade?

Wait, come to think of it, I'll keep adding one extra month killfile time
for every post from pclamer starting now (ouch, that's gotta hurt heh?)

This is kinda fun actually.


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BuckFush

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Feb 19, 2006, 3:11:01 PM2/19/06
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Walter Mitty wrote:
> "BuckFush" risked the wrath of Usenet weenies mastering

>> And I'm joining both of you guys, except I'm killfiling everyone who
>> replies to that moron for 60 days instead - double the punishment,
>> double the pleasure I say. Anybody else care to join our crusade?
>> Wait, come to think of it, I'll keep adding one extra month killfile
>> time for every post from pclamer starting now (ouch, that's gotta
>> hurt heh?)
>>
>
> I bet it's eating him up ....

>
>> This is kinda fun actually.
>
> Yegods

ROFLMAO!

We can always count on you not getting the joke now cant we ? Tell me
something, do they pay you really well to be this obtuse or is it just one
of those gifts that come naturally to you?

But what makes this truly hillarious is the fact that you and pclamer
actually care about all this non sense.

Sorry mate, but back to my killfile you go - and I'm keeping you 120 days in
there this time, no if's and's or but's.

Oh, and anybody who replies to you will be *killfiled for life* just for
good measure.


Quaestor

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Feb 19, 2006, 3:33:08 PM2/19/06
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BuckFush wrote:

>Johnny Bravo wrote:
>
>
>>Truth be told, you're getting boring kid. Enough so that I'm
>>joining Mean_Chlorine in "censoring" you. You start another thread
>>and I'll killfile you and anyone who replies to you for 30 days. The
>>really amusing thing is that you are the only person who will care if
>>I killfile them.
>>
>>
>
>And I'm joining both of you guys, except I'm killfiling everyone who replies
>to that moron for 60 days instead - double the punishment, double the
>pleasure I say. Anybody else care to join our crusade?
>
>

So everyone killfiles everyone, and this benefits us how?

I guess I'll killfile you, for starters. Oh, and I don't have any
timer, so this is forever.

>Wait, come to think of it, I'll keep adding one extra month killfile time
>for every post from pclamer starting now (ouch, that's gotta hurt heh?)
>
>This is kinda fun actually.
>

So is slamming your fingers in doors. Go try it.

JAB

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Feb 19, 2006, 3:36:26 PM2/19/06
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Can you put me in the KF straight away as I'm likely to reply to WM in
the next few days or so ... ta for that.

BuckFush

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Feb 19, 2006, 4:32:00 PM2/19/06
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Quaestor wrote:

> BuckFush wrote:
>>And I'm joining both of you guys, except I'm killfiling everyone who
>>replies to that moron for 60 days instead - double the punishment,
>>double the pleasure I say. Anybody else care to join our crusade?
>>
>So everyone killfiles everyone, and this benefits us how?

By weeding out morons like yourself, pclamer and walter shitty with a coupla
clicks, of course.

>I guess I'll killfile you, for starters. Oh, and I don't have any
>timer, so this is forever.

Oh no, please!!! I'm on my knees, begging you to reconsider lest my life
will surely be an meaningless void for all eternity, please! You have to
give me another chance, Sir, I promise to behave this time - please?

>>Wait, come to think of it, I'll keep adding one extra month killfile
>>time for every post from pclamer starting now (ouch, that's gotta
>>hurt heh?) This is kinda fun actually.
>
>So is slamming your fingers in doors. Go try it.

Is that how you guys from PCLamer's Lonely Hearts Club Band have fun? Sorry,
I'm not interested and would not join any club that would have people like
me as a member anyways.


BuckFush

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Feb 19, 2006, 4:46:20 PM2/19/06
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JAB wrote:

> BuckFush wrote:
>> Oh, and anybody who replies to you will be *killfiled for life* just
>> for good measure.
>>
>
> Can you put me in the KF straight away as I'm likely to reply to WM in
> the next few days or so ... ta for that.

I'm sorry, but I made the rules very clear: you will have to reply to Mr.
Shitty before I give you the honor of meeting my killfile permanently.

We cannot make any exceptions as that would not be fair to the other
participants in the program.

Thanks for your reply, we do appreciate your valuable input and please rest
assured that we will take all the necessary precautions to make your Usenet
experience a pleasurable, safe and happy one.

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JAB

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Feb 22, 2006, 2:19:34 AM2/22/06
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Walter Mitty wrote:
>> Oh, and anybody who replies to you will be *killfiled for life* just for
>> good measure.
>>
>
> LOL : now I get it : you are being tongue in cheek :)
>

Tongue in whose cheek and more importantly which cheek :-)

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