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Schrodinger

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Dec 26, 2009, 6:56:26 AM12/26/09
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I had forgotten how shit this is as the last time I used it was GTAIV.

I now have Red Faction Guerilla and can't play it because Live won't update.
It's been an hour faffing about with forgotten ideas and updates and all
sorts of shit. Having bought the eldest an Xbox360 I also had to seriously
mess about with that this morning.

Anyway, it's shit and I hate it.

Tim O

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Dec 26, 2009, 1:05:56 PM12/26/09
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They just released a huge patch on the 22nd. Let it run, it is
probably downloading that.

The game is actually pretty cool.

Jonah Falcon

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Dec 26, 2009, 1:10:02 PM12/26/09
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Games for Windows works perfectly for Fallout 3 and Batman: Arkham Asylum.

"Tim O" <timo56...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Tim O

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Dec 26, 2009, 2:08:49 PM12/26/09
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:10:02 -0500, "Jonah Falcon"
<jonah...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Games for Windows works perfectly for Fallout 3 and Batman: Arkham Asylum.

Red Factions implementation of it is actually kind of sucky. If you
don't create a Windows Live profile you can't change game options,
customize the keys or save games... That is all local stuff, so its
total bullshit.

I totally ignored Games For Windows in Fallout 3, in fact I never even
had to create an account to use it with any game until I played Red
Faction Guerrilla.

Schrodinger

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Dec 26, 2009, 5:51:05 PM12/26/09
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"Tim O" <timo56...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Turns out there is a problem with applying the patch via Live. The answer
is to manually run the downloaded .exe with the correct path to the game in
the options. You have to let the update fail via Live, then:

"C:\Users\<user name>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\X
Live\Updates\54510837\Content\rfg_updater.exe" /f
"<drive>\Steam\steamapps\common\red faction guerrilla"


Even then I had to try this twice.

Why why why do they use this shit? Surely the Steam cloud is meant to avoid
this - or is that only for Source games?

Whilst I'm at it - what is it about most console conversions that means the
characters move in the same hurried way?

Antonio Huerta

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Dec 26, 2009, 10:04:32 PM12/26/09
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On Dec 27, 5:08 am, Tim O <timo56REM...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Red Factions implementation of it is actually kind of sucky. If you
> don't create a Windows Live profile you can't change game options,
> customize the keys or save games... That is all local stuff, so its
> total bullshit.

Same crap is with GTA4, which I bought on the Steam sale. The game
required me to create Rockstar Club profile, and a Windows Live
profile as well. I have to run them, and the Rockstar sits in my tray,
and I always have to click through a bunch of pop-up Rockstar windows
declining this and that even if I play in off-line mode and I never
created my on-line login. Nevertheless, both Rockstar and Windows Live
transfer something to the Internet (or from). On top of it, the
gameplay session is initiated via Steam. And Steam adds its windows in
the beginning, and in the end ("Do you wanna buy that ?").

In resume, I could live with the pop up windows of one service (i.e.,
Steam), but two or even three services -- that's too much.

Cronos

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Dec 27, 2009, 12:01:36 AM12/27/09
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Tim O wrote:

> I totally ignored Games For Windows in Fallout 3, in fact I never even
> had to create an account to use it with any game until I played Red
> Faction Guerrilla.

Dirt2 requires that Live! shit too. I set mine to auto login so it
doesn't annoy the fuck out of me. Seems to me Microsoft is trying to
turn our beloved PC game machines into consoles.

Jonah Falcon

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Dec 27, 2009, 12:45:17 AM12/27/09
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"Cronos" <cro...@sphere.invalid> wrote in message
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Yeah, in-game IMs. No PC could ever do that.

Anssi Saari

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Dec 27, 2009, 5:32:36 AM12/27/09
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Antonio Huerta <ahu...@inbox.com> writes:

> On Dec 27, 5:08�am, Tim O <timo56REM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Red Factions implementation of it is actually kind of sucky. If you
>> don't create a Windows Live profile you can't change game options,
>> customize the keys or save games... That is all local stuff, so its
>> total bullshit.
>
> Same crap is with GTA4, which I bought on the Steam sale. The game
> required me to create Rockstar Club profile, and a Windows Live
> profile as well.

FWIW, at least for the disk version of GTA4 there's a quite thorough
solution called Xliveless. It's a very small file called xlive.dll
takes care of GfW and the social club. It's brilliant, it even fixes
the save file location as GTA4 got even that wrong.

Tyraledus

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:57:32 AM12/28/09
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:01:36 -0800, Cronos <cro...@sphere.invalid>
wrote:

They're just trying to help out the bed-wetters like you who
constantly complain about not being able to figure out complicated
concepts like Run As Admin on your pc. PC's are for the technically
strong, if you're having problems digging your head out of your ass it
would be better to buy a console than sling your used tampons on the
wall in a fit when things don't work the way you think they should.

If anyone wants to see fucktard boy in action look at thread titled
"Steam+Admin Mode = NFG"..

douche.

Schrodinger

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:33:59 AM12/28/09
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"Tyraledus" <Tyra...@nostrohomomail.com> wrote in message
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Troll-O-Meter

0..1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9..10..11
^
^

Shawk

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Dec 28, 2009, 5:33:57 AM12/28/09
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Schrodinger wrote:
>

>
> Troll-O-Meter
>
> 0..1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9..10..11
> ^
> ^


Hey... yours goes up to 11!?

Tim O

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:41:42 AM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:33:57 +0000, Shawk <sh...@gmx.com.3guesses>
wrote:


"Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and
make that a little louder?"

"These go to eleven."

Shawk

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:52:41 AM12/28/09
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Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you
know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all
the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you
go from there? Where?

Classic...

Tyraledus

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:09:03 PM12/28/09
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Yeah, he does appear to be a bit of a troll, in addition to an epic
douchebag.

Briarroot

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:30:16 PM12/28/09
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Tyraledus wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:33:59 -0000, "Schrodinger" <n...@way.com> wrote:
> ...

>>>
>>> douche.
>>
>> Troll-O-Meter
>>
>> 0..1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9..10..11
>
>
> Yeah, he does appear to be a bit of a troll, in addition to an epic
> douchebag.

'Juarez the nymshifter' gets you guys going every time. He'll probably
re-appear as "Epic Douchebag" soon.


--
"The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by
parts." - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

Tyraledus

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:47:09 PM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:30:16 -0500, Briarroot <bria...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>'Juarez the nymshifter' gets you guys going every time.

..and this new briarroot name of yours was born how many days ago?

Shawk

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Dec 28, 2009, 2:08:49 PM12/28/09
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First post I see with it is June 2003... slating the redux version of
Apocalypse Now (which I quite liked). It probably goes back further but
I don't have older posts to hand. That's quite a few days really...

Tyraledus

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:30:37 PM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:08:49 +0000, Shawk <sh...@gmx.com.3guesses>
wrote:

What are you using to search? It doesn't count unless its
bria...@gmail.com

link here:

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=briarroot%40gmail.com&sitesearch=&scoring=d

Shawk

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:05:10 PM12/28/09
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Tyraledus wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:08:49 +0000, Shawk <sh...@gmx.com.3guesses>
> wrote:
>
>> Tyraledus wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:30:16 -0500, Briarroot <bria...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'Juarez the nymshifter' gets you guys going every time.
>>> ..and this new briarroot name of yours was born how many days ago?
>>
>>
>> First post I see with it is June 2003... slating the redux version of
>> Apocalypse Now (which I quite liked). It probably goes back further but
>> I don't have older posts to hand. That's quite a few days really...
>
> What are you using to search? It doesn't count unless its
> bria...@gmail.com


OK... in that case he started posting with his gmail account in November
2007. Still quite a few days...

Tyraledus

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:53:10 PM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:05:10 +0000, Shawk <sh...@gmx.com.3guesses>
wrote:

That did not answer my question.

Shawk

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Dec 28, 2009, 7:03:44 PM12/28/09
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My retention policy in Thunderbird is 'do not delete'. I have all posts
back to June 2003.

Of course, with simple search skills you can see a post from Oct 2007
with that address here...

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.war-historical/browse_thread/thread/dfdee3272f6dea77/a009a9448558cdd8?q=#a009a9448558cdd8

Did that answer your question?

Unknown

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:14:34 PM12/28/09
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giganews.
of course.
what else could I expect?

How come you aren't spending your time honestly, contributing to the
real economic effect of making this a totally happy steam filled
holiday season, like so many others are doing?

Not that I don't like giganews. I hear that giganews prices are well
within competitive range - tho' steered more toward selling corporate
packages.

Tyraledus

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:19:35 AM12/29/09
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Can't say I full understand what is is you'd like to say or like to
ask here. Is your question directed toward giganews users or the
folks who have responded in this thread?

Unknown

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Dec 29, 2009, 8:04:39 AM12/29/09
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:19:35 -0500, Tyraledus
<Tyra...@nostrohomomail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:14:34 GMT, "gno...@al.ia" <gnomon> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:47:09 -0500, Tyraledus
>><Tyra...@nostrohomomail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:30:16 -0500, Briarroot <bria...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>'Juarez the nymshifter' gets you guys going every time.
>>>
>>>..and this new briarroot name of yours was born how many days ago?
>>
>>giganews.
>>of course.
>>what else could I expect?
>>
>>How come you aren't spending your time honestly, contributing to the
>>real economic effect of making this a totally happy steam filled
>>holiday season, like so many others are doing?
>>
>>Not that I don't like giganews. I hear that giganews prices are well
>>within competitive range - tho' steered more toward selling corporate
>>packages.
>
>Can't say I full understand what is is you'd like to say or like to
>ask here. Is your question directed toward giganews users or the
>folks who have responded in this thread?

today's word is "rhetorical"

Briarroot

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Dec 29, 2009, 9:50:16 AM12/29/09
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Shawk wrote:
> Tyraledus wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:08:49 +0000, Shawk <sh...@gmx.com.3guesses>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tyraledus wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:30:16 -0500, Briarroot <bria...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 'Juarez the nymshifter' gets you guys going every time.
>>>> ..and this new briarroot name of yours was born how many days ago?
>>>
>>>
>>> First post I see with it is June 2003... slating the redux version of
>>> Apocalypse Now (which I quite liked). It probably goes back further
>>> but I don't have older posts to hand. That's quite a few days really...
>>
>> What are you using to search? It doesn't count unless its
>> bria...@gmail.com
>
>
> OK... in that case he started posting with his gmail account in November
> 2007. Still quite a few days...

I'm not actually posting from Google; my gmail account is just a free
address that collects spam - with the occasional missive from a poster
too shy to ask me a question via the newsgroups. I've been posting on
Usenet since 1991 but have only been using "Briarroot" since 1999.

But back to the subject at hand...

I'm not sure who is weirder, 'Juarez' or his new nemesis, Tyraledus.
There I was, *complimenting* him on his dubbing 'Juarez' as "Epic
Douchebag," and he lights into me as if I had insulted his mother! You
don't suppose...? Heh! ;-)


--
"It is a general popular error to suppose the loudest complainers for
the public to be the most anxious for its welfare." - Edmund Burke
(1729-1797)

Tyraledus

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:14:42 PM12/29/09
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:50:16 -0500, Briarroot <bria...@gmail.com>
wrote:

That seems a little melodramatic, especially since I don't believe I
insulted you at all, or otherwise displayed any problem with you, just
asked how long you'd been using the name.

Tyraledus

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:15:43 PM12/29/09
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And today's example of usage is "rhetorical questions are always
welcomed as an appropriate use of readers time on usenet"

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