Steam+Admin mode = NFG!
Cronos
admin mode. I bought Ghostmaster for $1.00 and am trying to get settings
to stick but they won't because the game is not running as admin. But as
soon as you set any Steam game to run as admin Steam claims the game is
unavailable and to try again later. WTF Valve?!
Tyraledus
wrote:
All my Steam games run in admin mode, something else with your PC is
fucked up.
Tim O
<Tyra...@nostrohomomail.com> wrote:
>All my Steam games run in admin mode, something else with your PC is
>fucked up.
Same here.
Cronos
You guys actually set the games to run in admin mode or you are saying
they just run in admin mode? Steam client is a service and runs in admin
mode but the games themselves don't by default. Nothing fucked up with
my PC either. If you set a game to run in admin mode you will get a UAC
prompt to continue just before the game runs. You get that? If not, then
you are not running the game in admin mode.
Tyraledus
wrote:
>You guys actually set the games to run in admin mode or you are saying
>they just run in admin mode? Steam client is a service and runs in admin
>mode but the games themselves don't by default. Nothing fucked up with
>my PC either. If you set a game to run in admin mode you will get a UAC
>prompt to continue just before the game runs. You get that? If not, then
>you are not running the game in admin mode.
I run games as admin by setting up the desktop shortcut to run as
admin if they are not already set up that way. Steam seems to do that
to games by default (you can tell shortcuts set up to launch as admin
by the little shield icon). I'm using Windows 7 64 bit.
Cronos
> I run games as admin by setting up the desktop shortcut to run as
> admin if they are not already set up that way. Steam seems to do that
> to games by default (you can tell shortcuts set up to launch as admin
> by the little shield icon). I'm using Windows 7 64 bit.
I know they will show the shield icon if admin and none do in my Steam
folder. I was setting the game exe to admin manually and when running
from the Steam client I was getting the error I mentioned before. I see
using your method works (thanks) but that is not what I wanted so guess
I have to create desktop icons and set that to admin and then move them
into the Games folder because I don't like icons all over my desktop.
As soon as I move the shortcut from desktop the the games folder it
makes the icon use the Steam .ico file instead of the actual game's .ico
and there is no way to change it thanks to Microsoft removing the
ability to customize those files like you could do in Vista. That means
once the file is moved from Desktop to the Games folder you can't change
any of the compatibility modes unless you create a new desktop icon and
start over. Microsoft is so fucking annoying sometimes.
If you set a Steam game exe to admin mode and then try to run it from
within the Steam client you will get "game is unavailable and to try
again later". Steam is fucking annoying too. ;)
Tyraledus
wrote:
>Tyraledus wrote:
>
>> I run games as admin by setting up the desktop shortcut to run as
>> admin if they are not already set up that way. Steam seems to do that
>> to games by default (you can tell shortcuts set up to launch as admin
>> by the little shield icon). I'm using Windows 7 64 bit.
>
>I know they will show the shield icon if admin and none do in my Steam
>folder. I was setting the game exe to admin manually and when running
>from the Steam client I was getting the error I mentioned before. I see
>using your method works (thanks) but that is not what I wanted so guess
>I have to create desktop icons and set that to admin and then move them
>into the Games folder because I don't like icons all over my desktop.
>As soon as I move the shortcut from desktop the the games folder it
>makes the icon use the Steam .ico file instead of the actual game's .ico
>and there is no way to change it thanks to Microsoft removing the
>ability to customize those files like you could do in Vista. That means
>once the file is moved from Desktop to the Games folder you can't change
>any of the compatibility modes unless you create a new desktop icon and
>start over. Microsoft is so fucking annoying sometimes.
I don't even use the standard Games folder, I just created one called
Games on the desktop which contain shortcuts to each game (which is
the best way I've found to give fine-tuned controlled over each
launching application). That way the desktop itself doesn't become
cluttered. I counted the # of Steam games I have installed for
purposes of this post and it comes to 34 (many more not installed
though). Just create the desktop icon once, set it and move on. Its
not that hard.
>If you set a Steam game exe to admin mode and then try to run it from
>within the Steam client you will get "game is unavailable and to try
>again later". Steam is fucking annoying too. ;)
Steam has to operate in an environment where security is
ever-increasing. In both the case of Microsoft and Steam, there is a
very delicate balance betwen ease-of-use and security (or I should say
vulnerability). The same would be true of Linux and Mac games (if
they even existed to the same extent as PC games) if Linux and Mac
enjoyed the same level of hacker-lust (hackers and virus writers will
always go after the platform with the most marketshare, so the up and
commers have a deceptive, short-term advantage here). The only other
option for gaming is consoles which suck, but is one of the reasons
the XBox was invented in the first place (the difficult and expensive
task of creating an OS for everyone, including business and gaming, in
an increasingly connected and security hole ridden world).
So, I will just say all things considered, once you know what you're
doing it is quite easy to have a massive Steam library of games that
just works. Most of the issues you'll run into are a feature of
increased security mechanisms in Vista and Win7.. those same
mechanisms can be annoying sometimes but are far less annoying than
the catastrophic viral infections that would exist if they were not
there.
I don't like the extra tweaking any more than anyone else but its the
hacks, pirates and virus writers we have to blame and not MS or
Valve. It's still the best gaming platform and the level of tweaking
I find myself doing to date is not much different than days of old
when I spent hours sometimes just getting the IRQ settings on my sound
card right. PC gaming is still considered a hobby for the technical
elite and for everyone else they have button-mashing console games for
that.
Cronos
>Its not that hard.
Do I detect a note of condescension? It's not that hard but it could be
made more user friendly. When I set a game to run as admin it should not
just tell me the game is unavailable and to try again later. The client
is there to run games from and is why I never created any shortcuts on
the desktop and not because I am stupid as you just implied.
I prefer to use the special games folder that Microsoft provides because
that is what it is there for but even that could be designed better. I
don't even want a folder on my desktop, never have done it that way and
never will. What's interesting is that once I created a shortcut to the
first Steam game and set it to run as admin every other shortcut to a
Steam game I created after that became set as admin by default with no
interaction by me and is why you thought all Steam games are set to run
as admin by default. They are not and Steam did that after you created
the first game shortcut to run as admin.
Christian Brandt
> Steam won't let any game run if you set the exe for the game to run in
> admin mode.
Most Games on Steam don't need Admin-Mode. I run Steam in XP and W7
without any admin rights at all, completely removing my daywork account
from the Administrator group. I have completely disable UAC the other
way round, instead of popping up "Do you trust this application" I
simply get an "You don't have the right to do this". Whenever the need
arises I just start Steam.exe by rightclicking and clicking "Run as
Admin" and then starting the game from within Steam itself. But I think
besides installing games I never use this.
Christian Brandt