Latest Windows patches & Ops Console

Thomas Hauber

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Jun 14, 2006, 12:21:40 PM6/14/06

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Ever since updating this morning to the latest M$ patches, Ops Console
will no longer connect to our iSeries.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Our system is at OS400 V5R3 with the latest CUM applied.

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Jeff Crosby

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Jun 14, 2006, 2:59:43 PM6/14/06

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Thomas Hauber wrote:
> Ever since updating this morning to the latest M$ patches, Ops Console
> will no longer connect to our iSeries.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Our system is at OS400 V5R3 with the latest CUM applied.

Yes! I'm on V5R4. I already have Supportline involved because I
already had a PMR open due to issues with ops console after going to
V5R4. (That PMR is 15562,500,00 in case you want to call them about it
- but it's really another issue.)

My PC is W2K with service pack 4. Ten updates were downloaded and
applied today. I'm kind of at a standstill on it until they call me
back. The next step would be to remove the updates and see if that
helps. But only 7 of the 10 updates show in Add/Remove programs and I
don't know why.

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Jeff Crosby
Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc

Thomas Hauber

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:18:02 PM6/14/06

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Thomas Hauber wrote:
> Ever since updating this morning to the latest M$ patches, Ops Console
> will no longer connect to our iSeries.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Our system is at OS400 V5R3 with the latest CUM applied.
>

FYI to anyone monitoring this thread. KB911280 released by Microsoft on
6/13/2006 will break Ops Console. Simply remove it and Ops Console will
function again.

Bear in mind that it is a co-requisite with the following other security
updates:

KB917344
KB917734
KB917953
KB918439

Tom Hauber
IT Manager
Builders Hardware Inc.

Steve Richter

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Jun 14, 2006, 7:46:37 PM6/14/06

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Thomas Hauber wrote:
> Thomas Hauber wrote:
> > Ever since updating this morning to the latest M$ patches, Ops Console
> > will no longer connect to our iSeries.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this problem?
> >
> > Our system is at OS400 V5R3 with the latest CUM applied.
> >
> FYI to anyone monitoring this thread. KB911280 released by Microsoft on
> 6/13/2006 will break Ops Console. Simply remove it and Ops Console will
> function again.
>
> Bear in mind that it is a co-requisite with the following other security
> updates:
>
> KB917344
> KB917734
> KB917953
> KB918439
>

When I installed the updates on my W2K PC the client access 5250
connections failed. But after a reboot of the PC I was able to connect
again.

Haven't there been issues with the ops console cable and windows in the
past? Possibly because client access uses the serial port in ways
unlike the majority of PC serial port code. My guess is IBM knew this
was coming but it too strapped for resources to provide an alternative.

-Steve

Paul J. Therrien

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Jun 15, 2006, 9:19:53 PM6/15/06

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Thanks for the info. You saved me hours. We checked our ops console
machine and sure enough, no connection and the MS update had been
installed. We removed it and turned off auto-updates.

Thanks again,

Paul

Greg

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Jun 20, 2006, 9:32:14 AM6/20/06

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Thomas Hauber wrote:

> FYI to anyone monitoring this thread. KB911280 released by Microsoft on
> 6/13/2006 will break Ops Console. Simply remove it and Ops Console will
> function again.
>
> Bear in mind that it is a co-requisite with the following other security
> updates:
>
> KB917344
> KB917734
> KB917953
> KB918439
>
> Tom Hauber
> IT Manager
> Builders Hardware Inc.

Tom, your post has been cited as fact by a writer at
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh061906-story05.html (not sure if you
knew that). That puts our MS and IBM guys at a bit of odds.

Do you still stand behind this post and if so, what was your
workaround? Was it to apply the patches and then selectively remove
KB911280 afterwards?

Many thanks in advance,

Greg

Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

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Jun 21, 2006, 12:05:42 AM6/21/06

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TH> FYI to anyone monitoring this thread. KB911280 released by Microsoft
TH> on 6/13/2006 will break Ops Console. Simply remove it and Ops Console
TH> will function again.

From the "known issues" section of Microsoft's KnowledgeBase article:

"An issue has been confirmed that involves dial-up connections that
use a
terminal window, or dial-up scripting. This is an older technology
that is
rarely used by modern dial-up connections. If dial-up scripting is
used in a
connection, the connection may stop responding. This behavior does
not affect
any dial-up connections that do not use dial-up scripting. This
issue may affect
direct-dial connections to a corporate network, to a university
network, or to
some ISPs (Internet service providers). Microsoft is working to
develop and test
a revision to this update that will address this issue. If you must
use dial-up
scripting or terminal window features, do not install security
update 911280
(MS06-025) until the revised version is available."
-- <URL:http://support.microsoft.com./kb/911280>

Thomas Hauber

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Jun 21, 2006, 7:24:12 PM6/21/06

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I simply removed the offending M$ patch, ignored the warning about cross
compatibility problems (I mean this is only an ops console, nothing else
is done on it), rebooted the machine and made sure that this particular
patch is ignored.

Thomas Hauber

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Jun 21, 2006, 7:28:47 PM6/21/06

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Why did this put your M$ and IBM guys at odds? This isn't the first
time that a patch has caused a problem and had to be removed.