Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83
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1.  vmvc  
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 More options Dec 11 2005, 4:29 pm
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From: "vmvc" <v...@alu.ua.es>
Date: 11 Dec 2005 13:29:34 -0800
Local: Sun, Dec 11 2005 4:29 pm
Subject: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83
Manel.

Description of "bug"

1.- #3714Ah SYSEVAL (ACCESS INTO HIDDEN DIRECTORY)
2.-PRESS LS-G (GO TO built-in FILER NO USR MODE)
3.- GO DOWN WITH CURSOR.....

Do  a BACKUP before trying......


 
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2.  Jean-Yves Avenard  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 1:49 am
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From: Jean-Yves Avenard <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:49:51 +1100
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 1:49 am
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83

vmvc wrote:
> Manel.

> Description of "bug"

> 1.- #3714Ah SYSEVAL (ACCESS INTO HIDDEN DIRECTORY)
> 2.-PRESS LS-G (GO TO built-in FILER NO USR MODE)
> 3.- GO DOWN WITH CURSOR.....

Which you can never reproduce without using SYSEVAL...

JY


 
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3.  John H Meyers  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 4:44 pm
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From: "John H Meyers" <jhmey...@miu.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:44:36 -0600
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:51 -0600, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
>> Description of "bug"
> Which you can never reproduce without using SYSEVAL...

Wanna bet?

"" S~N EVAL then start Filer and scroll down.

Sony music recently got some pretty bad PR
by telling users that there was no way
that their copy protection could hurt their PC's;
heck, said Sony, most users haven't even the faintest idea
of what a "rootkit" is.

And how many users have ever multiplied those particular numbers
which exposed the "Pentium arithmetic bug"?

And how about those extreme cases in the older HP Finance solvers
in which a long series of positive payments
at very small positive interest gave a future value
less than the sum of the payments?

Even though it could have said that such input was
very unrealistic and needn't be handled,
HP instead made sure that all future financial calcs
correctly handled even this extreme problem,
citing the fact that to give wrong answers at any time
would be likely to undermine user confidence.

The defensive posture is rarely the best one in the long run.

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4.  Brother-Peter  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 4:50 pm
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From: "Brother-Peter" <DROP_...@dlc.fi>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:50:58 +0200
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83
"John H Meyers" <jhmey...@miu.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:51 -0600, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:

>>> Description of "bug"

>> Which you can never reproduce without using SYSEVAL...

> Wanna bet?

> "" S~N EVAL then start Filer and scroll down.

Stop right there Johnny-boy!
There are much important things to correct at this TIME
I find it ALARMing when just want to make A-PPOINT(ment)
I will not work - not now- not in any future DATE
ADJuST to that...

 
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5.  John H Meyers  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 8:48 pm
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From: "John H Meyers" <jhmey...@miu.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:48:18 -0600
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83
Recognizing existence of bugs
is a separate matter from prioritizing attention to them;
in this case it seemed to me an attempt to deny existence.

With MASD and development library on board (even built in),
surely it's expected that the calc will in fact
be used as a development platform,
so why not make sure that there aren't any lurking booby traps
into which otherwise legitimate operations might plunge a user
who merely innocently uses the tools as given?

If Filer uses hidden directory in a way which interferes
with its own display of it, and if not easy to correct,
then another approach could be to throw an error
and kick the user out; all better than crashing
(if that's what might otherwise happen).

Lower priority than alarms, of course :)

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6.  Jean-Yves Avenard  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 10:58 pm
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From: Jean-Yves Avenard <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:58:13 +1100
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83
John H Meyers wrote:
> Wanna bet?

Yes.

> "" S~N EVAL then start Filer and scroll down.

You must attach the 256 Library first which isn't supported by HP nor
mentioned in any official manuals.

JY


 
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7.  John H Meyers  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 11:32 pm
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From: "John H Meyers" <jhmey...@miu.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:32:36 -0600
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:58:13 -0600, JYA wrote:

JHM>> "" S~N EVAL then start Filer and scroll down.

JYA> You must attach the 256 Library first

No, I just set flag -86 :)

> which isn't supported by HP nor
> mentioned in any official manuals.

Why yes it is - in Chapter 6 of the official
HP 49g+/ HP 48gII graphing calculator
Advanced User's Reference manual

HP part number F2228-90010
Printed Date: 2005/9/17

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8.  Brother-Peter  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 4:47 pm
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From: "Brother-Peter" <DROP_...@dlc.fi>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:47:58 +0200
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83
"Jean-Yves Avenard" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message

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> vmvc wrote:
>> Manel.

>> Description of "bug"

>> 1.- #3714Ah SYSEVAL (ACCESS INTO HIDDEN DIRECTORY)
>> 2.-PRESS LS-G (GO TO built-in FILER NO USR MODE)
>> 3.- GO DOWN WITH CURSOR.....

> Which you can never reproduce without using SYSEVAL...

> JY

I read it as "bug" - but - that's what actually *is* written there by vmvc
I have found several such "bugs" during the years

When you're going to fix the "CAS changes flags" -BUG ???


 
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9.  Jean-Yves Avenard  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 11:02 pm
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From: Jean-Yves Avenard <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:02:34 +1100
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83
Brother-Peter wrote:
> I read it as "bug" - but - that's what actually *is* written there by vmvc
> I have found several such "bugs" during the years

> When you're going to fix the "CAS changes flags" -BUG ???

Because I have nothing to do with this software ? (CAS).

Same thing for the Alarm, it's all to do with the Operating System and I
've had nothing to do with it so I don't care much..

I do submit some fixes if they are easy to fix or fun to look at. All of
this during my spare times at no cost to HP, just because I'm proud of
the thing I did in the past and I support them. Service I provide to all
my clients.. Now I'm already overly generous and have much better things
to do in my life.

Just got married (http://wedding.avenard.com), and bought a house
(http://wedding.avenard.com/warrigal) so I'm very busy in all aspects of
my life.

JY


 
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10.  Wing Wong  
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 More options Dec 12 2005, 11:32 pm
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From: Wing Wong <w...@student.invalid>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:32:05 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Dec 12 2005 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: Probably a bug on flash version C-2.01, build 83

Jean-Yves Avenard <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Just got married (http://wedding.avenard.com), and bought a house
> (http://wedding.avenard.com/warrigal) so I'm very busy in all aspects of
> my life.

> JY

Just slightly OT but,
Congratulations Jean-Yves! May you and Angela MANY happy years together!

--

Wing Wong.
Webpage: http://wing.ucc.asn.au


 
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