cable ?
arturo
i understand what i have read about program transfer
from a 48x to the 50 one last time.
the ir direct calc to calc will not work. i can hand key
the programs in, but the 48x is full and i'm an hp (hunt
and pecker), so that would take a long time.
my best option is thru a pc but i don't get the cable thing.
please tell me i'm wrong but am i really supossed to go
to a bunch of stores hoping to find parts that have to
be spliced and experimented with to get the 48 data
into the pc????? am i correct that the 50 comes with a
cable for pc to 50 transfer?
thanks, Arturo
John H Meyers
> my best option is thru a pc but i don't get the cable thing.
> please tell me i'm wrong but am i really supossed to go
> to a bunch of stores hoping to find parts that have to
> be spliced and experimented with to get the 48 data
> into the pc????? am i correct that the 50 comes with a
> cable for pc to 50 transfer?
USB cable, yes -- serial cable NO.
Searching "hp48 cable" at Google quickly turns up
some ready-made PC<->HP48 cables for sale:
Less formal (but you won't be using it for long :)
$6.99 or $9.99 [plus shipping]
http://www.codefit.com/HP48Cable.html
More like HP's (but not made by HP):
"Clearance: $17.99" [plus shipping]
http://www.samsoncables.com/catalog/prodDetail.cfm?Prod_ID=190&Sku=48PCIKIT
And at CalcPro ($14.95 plus shipping):
https://www.calcpro.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi
Choose "Cables and Adapters," click "Find," see last item:
https://www.calcpro.com/stock/p477d.jpg
Are you ready to gamble on an order?
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ger...@cox.net
I just did roughly the same thing, but with a 48S and a 49G+. The HP
support person said the IR links are on incompatible wavelengths. I
used the standard HP-48S serial port cable along with a serial-to-USB
adapter (about $20 - well worth it - I have 2). That takes you to a
USB port on a PC. Then start the "HP Graphing Calculator Connectivity
Kit" (free download from HP). Then connect the 50G (in my case the
49G+) via USB to the PC and start the "HP 48 49 Connectivity Kit" on
the PC. You may have to do some fooling around to get everyone
talking. You can then click and drag from/to either calculator to/from
the PC.
What I might want to fool with is seeing if the more recent "HP 48 49
Connectivity Kit" will work with the older calculator. With the older
program, I couldn't click and drag directly from calculator to
calculator.
> thanks, Arturo
arturo
not a gamble but a leap of faith.
from what i read i'm lucky to go
from 48 to 50 bypassing 49.
Arturo
arturo
ger...@cox.net
I just checked. The older calculator won't work with the new software.
The new software only uses XModem protocol. The old software only
looks at serial ports, so it can't talk to the newer (USB only)
calculators.
Old s/w: old calc
new s/w: new calc. No exceptions.
Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
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>> What I might want to fool with is seeing if the more recent "HP 48 49
>> Connectivity Kit" will work with the older calculator.
>
> I just checked. The older calculator won't work with the new
> software. The new software only uses XModem protocol. The old
> software only looks at serial ports, so it can't talk to the newer
> (USB only) calculators.
so you did not find any Xmodem software for the old HP 48G-series?
John H Meyers
> I just checked. [by what means?]
> The older calculator won't work with the new software.
> The new software only uses XModem protocol.
My Conn4x (version 2.2, build 2353) claims it can send
the "Xmodem Server" program to an HP48GX using standard XModem,
or even do all file transfers using the standard XModem
already built into the calc, although it's more convenient
to send the XModem Server program to the HP48 and then
use it in the same maner as with an HP49/50.
Wouldn't this allow the same Conn4x to first copy
from 48GX to computer, and then from computer to 50G?
Another idea might be to do a complete backup of 48GX
to PC, put that backup into Emu48, then copy on PC from
one Emu48 emulating 48GX to another instance of Emu48
emulating 49G[+] or 50G (it doesn't really matter which).
This happens to be exactly how I transferred everything
from my 48GX to my 49G/49G+/50G -- all via computer,
until finally I made an "Emu49" complete backup
to transfer to real 49G+/50G calcs (via cable or SD card),
and even to real 49G via serial port (Emu49 to real calc).
One advantage to using Emu48 as your 48GX is that
"plug-in RAM cards" are free, and you can have
all the memory you want on your emulated 48GX;
ascii file transfers between two emulators on PC
are simply a matter of copy/paste (from stack to stack),
using the Clipboard -- easy as falling off a LOG :)
Backups on Emu48 are also as easy as doing "File> Save [As]"
and keeping copies of your Emu48 RAM files on your PC;
you don't need "calc-style" backups until it's time
to actually transfer them to real calcs!
For all my postings here, I am not touching any calculator,
just my keyboard and virtual, emulated calculators in this PC,
and it's hugely easier for me to make programs this way
(automatically saved on my computer) than to start off
hitting 49G+ keys -- which are going to fall off soon, anyway :)
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Heiko Arnemann
"John H Meyers" <jhme...@nomail.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:op.tg0p8...@w2kjhm.ia.mum.edu...
> My Conn4x (version 2.2, build 2353) claims it can send
> the "Xmodem Server" program to an HP48GX using standard XModem,
> or even do all file transfers using the standard XModem
> already built into the calc, although it's more convenient
> to send the XModem Server program to the HP48 and then
> use it in the same maner as with an HP49/50.
>
> Wouldn't this allow the same Conn4x to first copy
> from 48GX to computer, and then from computer to 50G?
Yes, it works mostly fine to transfer from 48GX to PC
and then from PC to 50G.
I am using Conn4X version 2.2, build 2353.
1. Enable the 48GX by using on Conkit: File, Download HP 48 Server
(Manu...)
2. Switch to ASCII mode on the Conkit
3. Transfer from 48GX
to PC (with drag&drop) e.g. by using the "Explorer" as a second window
4. Transfer from PC to 50g
Note, there are some other obstacles to make the procedure run:
* e.g. Connect using Auto is not working to download HP 48 Server...
* Using a version of ConKit, which is working properly
* switch to Connect using: Auto, for 50g
* have the right usb-drivers for the 50g
After geting used to it, it is a fast procedure.
(XModem is much faster (for 48GX), I love it :-)
Regards
Heiko
arturo
going to hand type the programs in. the IRs
should have been made compatable to begin
with.
anyway- i didn't know you could change the
name of a thread once it got going, neat trick.
Arturo
Marcus von Cube
>please tell me i'm wrong but am i really supossed to go
>to a bunch of stores hoping to find parts that have to
>be spliced and experimented with to get the 48 data
>into the pc?????
The 48 works with the cables for the HP95LX Palmtop, HP200LX Palmtop (with
corresponding adaptor from 10 to 4 pins), HP39G/40G/49G (with a similar 10
pin to 4 pin adaptor) and, of course, with the original cable. The two
adaptors (10<->4) are NOT identical, they have to match their repective
cables!
>am i correct that the 50 comes with a
>cable for pc to 50 transfer?
Yes, it's USB.
The best way really is ASCII transfer via a PC. That way, you have a suitable
backup, too. If you install the 50g connectivity software Conn4x, you get the
option to transfer an XModem server to your 48G. This enables you to use both
Marcus von Cube
Wehrheim, Germany
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Marcus von Cube
>The best way really is ASCII transfer via a PC. That way, you have a suitable
>backup, too. If you install the 50g connectivity software Conn4x, you get the
>option to transfer an XModem server to your 48G. This enables you to use both
I was a little quick hitting the "Post" button...
If you install the XModem server library on your 48G you can use both
calculators with Conn4x *at the same time*! You just start two copies of the
program, select USB on one instance and the COM port (for your 48G) on the
other instance. Don't forget to switch to ASCII mode on both instances. Of
course, the XModem server must be running on both calcs.
Now you can drag objects from one calc to the other (or better, from one
instance of Conn4x to the other) and everything will be correctly converted.
It is wise to set your HP50g to approximate mode before the transfers, this
ensures that all numbers within UserRPL code are transfered as reals, not
exact integers.
Happy copying!