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Anyone have any experience with CalcPro?

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hpsolo

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Nov 4, 2005, 2:14:11 PM11/4/05
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I recently read their website and they seem to provide card programming
services for the HP48GX. Has anyone used this service? And what about
CalcPro as a business in general? Has anyone every made purchases from
them recently? How responsive are they? (I've found some super old
postings here on comp.sys.hp48 regarding CalcPro, but they're too
outdated to be of significance).

Any anecdotes will be truly appreciated.

John H Meyers

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Nov 4, 2005, 6:09:57 PM11/4/05
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Wow, who else is still selling Battery Doors
for various old models?

Too bad there are no more original slip-cases
for 17b/42s/etc. -- I had to resort to eyeglass cases
when I bought some which came without :)

I bought something from there, couple of years ago;
all transactions were fine.

[r->[OFF]

Colin Croft

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Nov 5, 2005, 9:40:51 AM11/5/05
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My only experience of CalcPro is that they are selling pirated copies of
a book that I wrote without my permission and without paying me any
royalties. ie they are thieves.

Tom Lake

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:19:34 AM11/5/05
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"Colin Croft" <ccr...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:436cc473$0$1747$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

> My only experience of CalcPro is that they are selling pirated copies of a
> book that I wrote without my permission and without paying me any
> royalties. ie they are thieves.

What book is that? I'd like to avoid buying the pirated version.

Tom Lake


Colin Croft

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:50:20 AM11/5/05
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Thanks Tom but considering how long the 38G has been out of production I
can't see many people buying a copy. :-) Although, oddly, I did recently
sell a copy to a bloke in The Netherlands who'd bought one second hand
with no manual. Fortunately I had a few left over copies stashed in the
shed.

Just go to CalcPro's site and search on 38G. The book is called
"Mastering the HP 38G". I originally contacted them some years ago about
the possiblity of publishing it in the US (I live in Australia) and sent
them a copy to review. They declined and then printed it themselves and
proceeded to sell it on their site. I've contacted them about it and the
first time I spoke to them they were most polite and promised to send me
money. Nada. And no response since then to any inquiries. I'd imagine
that they concluded (correctly) that there was no way I could do
anything in the US when I lived in Australia.

I've written it off now, and anyway I sold an updated version of it (for
the 39G/40G/39g+) to HP that's now available from their site as a free
PDF download. So I got paid in the end, even if not by CalcPro. Perhaps
I should suggest to HP, since they now own the copyright, that they
prosecute CalcPro. ;-P One can dream.

Brother-Peter

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Nov 5, 2005, 1:35:50 PM11/5/05
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"Colin Croft" <ccr...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Thanks Tom but considering how long the 38G has been out of production I
> can't see many people buying a copy. :-) Although, oddly, I did recently
> sell a copy to a bloke in The Netherlands who'd bought one second hand
> with no manual. Fortunately I had a few left over copies stashed in the
> shed.
>
> Just go to CalcPro's site and search on 38G. The book is called "Mastering
> the HP 38G". I originally contacted them some years ago about the
> possiblity of publishing it in the US (I live in Australia) and sent them
> a copy to review. They declined and then printed it themselves and
> proceeded to sell it on their site. I've contacted them about it and the
> first time I spoke to them they were most polite and promised to send me
> money. Nada. And no response since then to any inquiries. I'd imagine that
> they concluded (correctly) that there was no way I could do anything in
> the US when I lived in Australia.
>
> I've written it off now, and anyway I sold an updated version of it (for
> the 39G/40G/39g+) to HP that's now available from their site as a free PDF
> download. So I got paid in the end, even if not by CalcPro. Perhaps I
> should suggest to HP, since they now own the copyright, that they
> prosecute CalcPro. ;-P One can dream.

Funny that even when Avenard was working for HP
the lawyers were harrashing him about his website
but now they are not intewrested in CalcPro case
Go figure?!


hpsolo

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Nov 5, 2005, 4:25:33 PM11/5/05
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Hmm.. this is starting to sound too much like the problems with DaVinci
(formerly Sparcom) and MDG's Metakernel card. I sent an email to
sa...@calcpro.com and there hasn't been a response. So no one has any
positive results from this company? That's too bad... I was somewhat
excited when I found out it _could_ have been possible to get some
ROM-like cards for my HP48.

James M. Prange

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Nov 5, 2005, 10:12:43 PM11/5/05
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John H Meyers wrote:
> Wow, who else is still selling Battery Doors
> for various old models?
>
> Too bad there are no more original slip-cases
> for 17b/42s/etc. -- I had to resort to eyeglass cases
> when I bought some which came without :)

Well, if you're willing to settle for cases that aren't "genuine
HP" items, look for seller "annstcs" on eBay. She makes these
cases herself; some are genuine leather, and some are felt-lined
imitation-leather vinyl. I bought a case for my 16C from her, and
am very satisfied with it. If you don't see the style or color
that you want, maybe e-mail her and ask about it.

My only connection with her is as a satisfied customer.

It seems strange to me that HP doesn't seem to make the ordinary
vinyl slip cases for the current production 12C and 12C Platinum
available as separate items.

> I bought something from there, couple of years ago;
> all transactions were fine.

Same here. Seems to me that CalcPro was a bit slow on delivery,
but everything turned out just fine.

--
Regards,
James

Jean-Yves Avenard

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Nov 6, 2005, 2:56:10 AM11/6/05
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Colin Croft wrote:
> first time I spoke to them they were most polite and promised to send me
> money. Nada. And no response since then to any inquiries. I'd imagine
> that they concluded (correctly) that there was no way I could do
> anything in the US when I lived in Australia.
>

Nothing is ever lost ...

Here is something you could easily do.

Get a proof that they sold an illegal copy.
Send them an invoice for how many books you legitimately believe they sold.

Then write it as a loss, good tax deduction for you !

Jean-Yves

Colin Croft

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Nov 6, 2005, 3:11:32 AM11/6/05
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Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
> Get a proof that they sold an illegal copy.
> Send them an invoice for how many books you legitimately believe they sold.
>
> Then write it as a loss, good tax deduction for you !
>
> Jean-Yves

Interesting. I'd never considered that. I'll have to mention it to my
accountant next time I do my taxes. I'm not sure that it's possible
though - I don't know if not receiving a profit you should have equates
to making a loss. Anyone an accountant and can tell me? Also, how can I
possibly know how many they've sold when they won't answer my emails?

Arnaud Amiel

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Nov 6, 2005, 3:17:01 AM11/6/05
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For genuine hp cases you could try:
http://www.calculatorshop.co.uk/acatalog/HP_calculator_cases.html

I am not connected either, just a satisfied customer (at european prices
though)

Arnaud


Bruce Horrocks

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Nov 6, 2005, 7:07:51 AM11/6/05
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In message
<436dbab3$0$30997$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Colin
Croft <ccr...@iinet.net.au> writes

>Also, how can I possibly know how many they've sold when they won't
>answer my emails?

Extrapolate based on sales in au?

Or, ask your publisher what a likely minimum print run might be and
assume that they have sold that many.

Regards,
--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
<firstname>@<surname>.plus.com -- fix the obvious for email

cyiuwai

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Nov 6, 2005, 1:21:26 PM11/6/05
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I have bought 3 nos. book about Hp42s on Aug-2005 the payment was
completed but the books still not arrived , on invoice write shipped by
UPS, but after one month I write the e-mail to them, they said that the
cost of UPS was expansive, they change the general POST , at this moment
still not arrived

Wayne Brown

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Nov 6, 2005, 4:59:24 PM11/6/05
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I've done business with CalcPro a few times over the last few years.
It's always been *very* slow to get orders filled and very difficult
to get in touch with anyone. My last order was placed more than a year
and a half ago and I haven't received any of it, and have been unable to
get any response from CalcPro about it. After reading Colin's comments
about them selling illegal copies of his book I'm glad not to be doing
any more business with them.

--
Wayne Brown (HPCC #1104) | "When your tail's in a crack, you improvise
fwb...@bellsouth.net | if you're good enough. Otherwise you give
| your pelt to the trapper."
e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 -- Euler | -- John Myers Myers, "Silverlock"

Jean-Yves Avenard

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Nov 6, 2005, 7:21:52 PM11/6/05
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Colin Croft wrote:
> Interesting. I'd never considered that. I'll have to mention it to my
> accountant next time I do my taxes. I'm not sure that it's possible
> though - I don't know if not receiving a profit you should have equates
> to making a loss. Anyone an accountant and can tell me? Also, how can I
> possibly know how many they've sold when they won't answer my emails?
It's not like you're not making a profit here... You invoiced but you've
never been paid, therefore a loss

Should you have received the money you would have paid taxes on that.

If your accountant says you can't.. Change your accountant. But you'll
probably have to pay your accountant for more than the usual $90 for a
tax return ... Good accountant cost money, but they save you more :)

Jean-Yves

Colin Croft

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Nov 7, 2005, 7:44:36 AM11/7/05
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Interesting. It's certainly worth it if only from the stir factor
anyway. :-)

Gene

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Nov 7, 2005, 8:18:25 AM11/7/05
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Once you invoice them, it becomes a receivable.

If they don't pay, it becomes a bad debt, which you may be able to
write off.

Good luck, Colin!
Gene

Colin Croft

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Nov 11, 2005, 7:56:20 AM11/11/05
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My accountant says to go for it! I'm going to assume the normal 15% of
retail price as the royalty but I have to decide what size production
run to bill them for. I'm assuming that 1000 copies is the normal size
based on my experience with other books that I've had published. But
that's in Australia and maybe the US has different norms based on a
larger population. Is anyone in the publishing industry and can comment?

John Nguyen

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Nov 17, 2005, 12:13:41 PM11/17/05
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Someone else posted this question as well on the hpmuseum.org
forum. Here's a summary of what I posted there.

I guess I was lucky, but I ordered an HP-82241A AC Adapter for the
IR printer and an HP 49G Advanced User's Guide from CalcPro with
no problem. The adapter isn't new but it is in excellent shape.
The 49G AUR was still in shrink wrap.

Right after I ordered my stuff, I read about the bad experiences
people had with CalcPro, I called the store and talked to a nice
person there (well, he sounded nice) who assured me the order was
on its way. I got it within a week. Sure, the shipping charge was
$2.00 more than what was quoted on the site, but over all I'm happy.

This was not a big purchase, by the way, so take it for what it's
worth.

John

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