On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:51 -0600, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote: >> Description of "bug" > Which you can never reproduce without using SYSEVAL...
Wanna bet?
"" S~N EVAL then start Filer and scroll down.
Sony music recently got some pretty bad PR by telling users that there was no way that their copy protection could hurt their PC's; heck, said Sony, most users haven't even the faintest idea of what a "rootkit" is.
And how many users have ever multiplied those particular numbers which exposed the "Pentium arithmetic bug"?
And how about those extreme cases in the older HP Finance solvers in which a long series of positive payments at very small positive interest gave a future value less than the sum of the payments?
Even though it could have said that such input was very unrealistic and needn't be handled, HP instead made sure that all future financial calcs correctly handled even this extreme problem, citing the fact that to give wrong answers at any time would be likely to undermine user confidence.
The defensive posture is rarely the best one in the long run.
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:51 -0600, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
>>> Description of "bug"
>> Which you can never reproduce without using SYSEVAL...
> Wanna bet?
> "" S~N EVAL then start Filer and scroll down.
Stop right there Johnny-boy! There are much important things to correct at this TIME I find it ALARMing when just want to make A-PPOINT(ment) I will not work - not now- not in any future DATE ADJuST to that...
Recognizing existence of bugs is a separate matter from prioritizing attention to them; in this case it seemed to me an attempt to deny existence.
With MASD and development library on board (even built in), surely it's expected that the calc will in fact be used as a development platform, so why not make sure that there aren't any lurking booby traps into which otherwise legitimate operations might plunge a user who merely innocently uses the tools as given?
If Filer uses hidden directory in a way which interferes with its own display of it, and if not easy to correct, then another approach could be to throw an error and kick the user out; all better than crashing (if that's what might otherwise happen).
Brother-Peter wrote: > I read it as "bug" - but - that's what actually *is* written there by vmvc > I have found several such "bugs" during the years
> When you're going to fix the "CAS changes flags" -BUG ???
Because I have nothing to do with this software ? (CAS).
Same thing for the Alarm, it's all to do with the Operating System and I 've had nothing to do with it so I don't care much..
I do submit some fixes if they are easy to fix or fun to look at. All of this during my spare times at no cost to HP, just because I'm proud of the thing I did in the past and I support them. Service I provide to all my clients.. Now I'm already overly generous and have much better things to do in my life.
Well, well... now we know the real reason Qonos is not progressing! And you had us believing it was funding, when all along a lovely lady was the real reason... ;-)
Congratulations to you Jean-Yves... a fine looking house and a gorgeous bride!
And thank you for whatever time you are still volunteering to improving the 49g+.
Mike wrote: > Well, well... now we know the real reason Qonos is not progressing! > And you had us believing it was funding, when all along a lovely lady > was the real reason... ;-)
Thank you guys.. very much appreciated.
Well, being married and lack of funding go in pair usually isn't it ? Got a house 4 weeks after being married and now I'm broke !
> Brother-Peter wrote: >> I read it as "bug" - but - that's what actually *is* written there by >> vmvc >> I have found several such "bugs" during the years
>> When you're going to fix the "CAS changes flags" -BUG ???
> Because I have nothing to do with this software ? (CAS).
Darn! There seems to be no way to make HPQ to pay Parisse to fix that very annoing behaviour
> Same thing for the Alarm, it's all to do with the Operating System and I > 've had nothing to do with it so I don't care much..
ok
> I do submit some fixes if they are easy to fix or fun to look at. All of > this during my spare times at no cost to HP, just because I'm proud of the > thing I did in the past and I support them. Service I provide to all my > clients.. Now I'm already overly generous and have much better things to > do in my life.
overly generous? I'll give you my bank account number... (-;
With this, anything typed into the command line will be evaluated under 'XC' -- you can even open a command line via Rshift+ENTRY, then enter command names taken from any menu (remember that menu keys will otherwise bypass this program, processing only what has been manually typed, if anything).
Toggling USER mode is a quick way to toggle this on/off (but key assignments go on/off too, c'est la vie)
>> I read it as "bug" - but - that's what actually *is* written there by >> vmvc >> I have found several such "bugs" during the years
>> When you're going to fix the "CAS changes flags" -BUG ???
> Because I have nothing to do with this software ? (CAS).
> Same thing for the Alarm, it's all to do with the Operating System and I > 've had nothing to do with it so I don't care much..
> I do submit some fixes if they are easy to fix or fun to look at. All of > this during my spare times at no cost to HP, just because I'm proud of > the thing I did in the past and I support them. Service I provide to all > my clients.. Now I'm already overly generous and have much better things > to do in my life.
> Félicitations, Jean-Yves et Angela, et avec une épouse aussi jolie, Qonos, > on verra plus tard !!
> Jean-Yves Avenard a écrit : >> Brother-Peter wrote:
>>> I read it as "bug" - but - that's what actually *is* written there by >>> vmvc >>> I have found several such "bugs" during the years
>>> When you're going to fix the "CAS changes flags" -BUG ???
>> Because I have nothing to do with this software ? (CAS).
>> Same thing for the Alarm, it's all to do with the Operating System and I >> 've had nothing to do with it so I don't care much..
>> I do submit some fixes if they are easy to fix or fun to look at. All of >> this during my spare times at no cost to HP, just because I'm proud of >> the thing I did in the past and I support them. Service I provide to all >> my clients.. Now I'm already overly generous and have much better things >> to do in my life.
