New TI-Nspire
jsman...@gmail.com
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/11/texas-instruments-finally-gets-fresh-unveils-ti-nspire-calculat/
Now, it is your turn HP ;-)
Best regards,
J.Manrique
JB
wrote:
> I think you know that TI has announced its new TI-Nspire line:http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/11/texas-instruments-finally-gets-fre...
>
> Now, it is your turn HP ;-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> J.Manrique
Don't hold your breathe waiting for a better HP calculator. The 50g
hasn't been around for very long and it really wasn't an upgrade from
the 49g+ except for a color change and an extra battery. I get the
distinct impression that HP wants to sell calculators only as long as
it doesn't take any engineering investment and when it does? I expect
them to quite the business.
Damir
You do not have 50g? :)
Damir
TW
> hasn't been around for very long and it really wasn't an upgrade from
> the 49g+ except for a color change and an extra battery.
True.
> I get the
> distinct impression that HP wants to sell calculators only as long as
> it doesn't take any engineering investment and when it does? I expect
> them to quite the business.
I think that is a little harsh. The difference between now and 20
years ago is they don't have thousands of employees. You can still
get a lot of stuff done with small groups of people, it just takes
longer and you need to work smarter.
TW
Tom Lake
<jsman...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I think you know that TI has announced its new TI-Nspire line:
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/11/texas-instruments-finally-gets-fresh-unveils-ti-nspire-calculat/
>
> Now, it is your turn HP ;-)
Without full programmability, the TI-Nspire isn't the calculator for me.
I don't need CAS, I need better programming features.
Tom Lake
manjo
> I don't need CAS, I need better programming features.
Right, however,
they didn't fail to recognise the usability of the modular keyboard
which i've been talking about in some of my posts here.
Implementing details like that on concept of 50G,
with better support (cables etc) HP can beat TI-Nspire with no effort...
manjo
Mike Bryant
> > Without full programmability, the TI-Nspire isn't the calculator for me.
> > I don't need CAS, I need better programming features.
>
> Right, however,
>
> which I've been talking about in some of my posts here.
>
> Implementing details like that on concept of 50G,
> with better support (cables etc) HP can beat TI-Nspire with no effort...
>
> manjo
HP has never had any trouble keeping up with TI (not to denigrate TI,
as TI does make top quality-albeit RPN deficient machines), and in
fact HP is usually ahead of the curve. However, HP will have to be a
little more serious about calculators if they wish to remain in the
calculator biz (and I don't mean simply copying TI). Producing a
uniquely HP calculator following in the the old HP tradition may be
just what HP needs to become dominant in an extremely competitive
field as they once were. I can't see a 50g ROM upgrade in the near
future as the last one is only 6 months old, let alone the re-write
needed to turn a 50g into a TI-Nspire.
It will be interesting to see what HP pulls out of their hat to
compete with the TI-Nspire.
I remain hopeful :-)
Bruce Horrocks
Does "HP-35 Anniversary Edition" sound like it will meet your expectations?
;-)
--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
Manatee
aren't even listed on their regular website. They've acknowledged that the
standalone calculator is now only a test-taking tool, which prevents the
student from having access to all the features of a computer. They've
forsaken us middle-aged gadget geeks who have romantic memories of the novel
electronic calculators of our youth.
HP, on the other hand, is still willing to patronize us. There's not much
of a market, though. Unless they decide to compete with TI in the education
market, developing calculators to the specs of the standardized test makers,
they'll never be able to justify throwing sufficient resources at a
significant engineering calculator. Yes, I love using my 50g and my 17bII+,
but I have software on each of my PDAs and Smartphones that can do
everything those calculators do. And the Mathematica clone that I have on
my little subnotebook PC, well that has amazing capabilities.
Handheld electronic calculators were cool in the 70s, ubiquitous in the 80s,
and anachronistic in the '90s (except in the education market). The
existing ones are still as capable as they ever were, but there's not a
sufficient market to fund major breakthroughs in the product segment. But
still, I hope and dream of the HP60g -- whatever features it has.
"JB" <wjb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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JB
"There's not much of a market, though."
The high school market is of course huge and the college and
professional market has been estimated to be another one third of the
high school market. Calculators are cash cows for Hp, Ti, and Casio
but there seems to be a short sighted reluctance to invest some of
this profit in future products. For example the 50g really wasn't
much different than the 49g+. On the other hand HP seems to produce a
new printer design every six months.
>
And the Mathematica clone that I have on
my little subnotebook PC, well that has amazing capabilities.
>
Tell me more. I'm interested and would like to hear more about that.
What brand/model of pc and what software? Thanks.
David
calculator would be to include more of the capabilities possible on a
computer, which is to blow up the display (maybe half VGA) and increase the
speed to what computers were like 10 years ago, while keeping the same
software concepts and hardware features, making it function like a portable
Matlab platform (sort of like the Qonos machine or the upcoming TI-Nspire).
Maybe adding something like the TI-keyboard accessory wouldn't be so
ridiculous if you program a lot on the calculator. It should be a
professional tool that helps you in learning and serves you at work rather
than being a test taking tool. Of course a laptop encompasses all of the
calculator's capabilities, so it has to be cost effective, power efficient,
and portable.