More screen cover business
ToddEStan
myself, so I decided to do something. I had already pried the sucker
off before, but had decided that just the blue border was downright
ugly, and black electrical tape didn't look much better. So I had put
back it on and lived with it a while.
Someone had the idea of cutting out the clear part in the middle, so I
decided to try this. I first went at it with a utility knife. I just
cut a groove, then ran the knife along the groove cutting it a little
deeper each time. I quickly found out this wasn't going to work.
Despite having a new blade in the knife, it simply was taking forever,
and the pressure I was using was going to give me a cramp. Contrary to
how easy it is to scratch this stuff, it actually is pretty hard to cut,
and the screen cover is pretty thick too.
So, being the American that I am, I whipped out my power tools. I first
used a drill to cut two rather large holes near two opposing corners in
the clear part of the screen. Then, I used my jig saw to cut out a
rectangle in the clear plastic part. I am pretty good with a jig saw,
but I figured it would just be plain dumb to try to cut the edge along
the black with it (I am not that good!).
So once I had the the clear rectangle out, I got out my dremmel tool to
grind it down to the black edge. The dremmel tool made quick work out
of the remaining clear plastic. I started out with one of the sanding
attachments with a large diameter, then worked my way down to the
smallest one to get into the corners. Then I got out the felt
attachment and polished the edges so they were nice and shiny.
Satisified, I got out a black permanent marker and colored in the
scrapes I put into the black part while doing all of this.
I popped the piece back onto my 49, and am happy with the results. You
can view my modified calculator here:
http://www.visi.com/~nickmpls/49mod.jpg
(I know the scan isn't too good!, maybe I'll try again tomorrow)
Here is the screen cover by itself. The clear piece in the middle is
all that remains of the clear plastic part that is not currently either
shavings, shreds, or dust on my basement floor:
http://www.visi.com/~nickmpls/covronly.jpg
Now, anyone else here brave enough to try this?
Todd
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El Beto
> Now, anyone else here brave enough to try this?
>
Looks nice, but I'm not the brave one...
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Pete M. Wilson
the various cover*.txt articles and thought this was the natural
solution.
My questions are how long did it take, and why didn't you just use the
Dremel to saw the clear part out?
ToddEStan <todd...@nospam.visi.com> wrote:
>
>So once I had the the clear rectangle out, I got out my dremmel tool to
>grind it down to the black edge. The dremmel tool made quick work out
>of the remaining clear plastic. I started out with one of the sanding
>attachments with a large diameter, then worked my way down to the
>smallest one to get into the corners. Then I got out the felt
>attachment and polished the edges so they were nice and shiny.
>Satisified, I got out a black permanent marker and colored in the
>scrapes I put into the black part while doing all of this.
>
Pete M. Wilson
Gamewood Data Systems Internet Service
wils...@gamewood.net
ToddEStan
with the dremel tool first because I didn't have the cutting attachments
handy, just the grinding ones and the polishing ones. Otherwise, I
would of used the dremmel to do all of the work. Same result though.
Todd
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Homer Simpson
>Someone had the idea of cutting out the clear part in the middle, so I
>decided to try this.
>Now, anyone else here brave enough to try this?
Hehe... I wouldn't do it before my warranty period is over, because,
according to some people, such manipulations could void the warranty. But I
might buy such a cover if someone decided to produce them.
I guess it's not a big concern. Although a HP49 doesn't look good without
its cover, it's not that bad.
Homer Simpson
http://zap.to/hsimpson
Steve
Nice job, I think that is probably the best solution so far. I will
probably do the same to mine when or if I get it. Umm..in your opinion
how hard would it be to remove the retarded vertical lines at the
bottom?
Thanks,
Steve
Joseph K. Horn
> how hard would it be to remove the retarded vertical lines at the
> bottom?
They are merely painted onto the inside surface, and could be removed
with a proper solvent, I suppose. But I'd recommend not doing so, since
those "retarded" lines are not mere decorations, but they help reduce
keystroke errors when using the menu keys. If you prefer good looks
over functionality, though, go right ahead and wipe 'em off.
-Joe-
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especially in situations where the light isn't very good. I've been
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Barry
the new lenses that I always need, I was planning to take the HP49 with me
to the optician and find out what it would cost to have a flat, clear,
non-reflective lens fitted into place. If it's under $50 I'll probably do
it.
Barry
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ToddEStan
back of the screen cover. It would be pretty easy to get rid of them.
Someone else suggested a solvent. You might even be able to remove then
just by scraping with your fingernail. The dremel's polishing tool
could polish them off easily. Then use some black paint or a marker to
make that area black again.
Todd
Steve wrote:
> Todd,
> Nice job, I think that is probably the best solution so far. I will
> probably do the same to mine when or if I get it. Umm..in your opinion
> how hard would it be to remove the retarded vertical lines at the
> bottom?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
Two Pi R
>to the optician and find out what it would cost to have a flat, clear,
>non-reflective lens fitted into place
Why not just have your prescription built in so you can view your calculator
without your glasses!
Homer Simpson
>> bottom?
>[...] they help reduce
>keystroke errors when using the menu keys.
Good piece of advice -- for other people. I never happened to press the
wrong menu key, although my screen cover is gone. And the HP48 didn't have
these lines at all (although the screen was a little closer to the
keyboard).
Homer Simpson
http://zap.to/hsimpson
Barry
Barry
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Pete M. Wilson
least point at the middle of the keys!!!
Joseph K. Horn <joe...@jps.net> wrote:
>Steve wrote:
>
>> how hard would it be to remove the retarded vertical lines at the
>> bottom?
>
>They are merely painted onto the inside surface, and could be removed
>with a proper solvent, I suppose. But I'd recommend not doing so, since
>those "retarded" lines are not mere decorations, but they help reduce
>keystroke errors when using the menu keys. If you prefer good looks
>over functionality, though, go right ahead and wipe 'em off.
>
>-Joe-
>"These are my principles. If you don't like 'em, I'll change 'em."
>-- Mark Twain
>
>
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Steve
>
> The lines, along with the black and HP logo are merely painted on the
> back of the screen cover. It would be pretty easy to get rid of them.
> Someone else suggested a solvent. You might even be able to remove then
> just by scraping with your fingernail. The dremel's polishing tool
> could polish them off easily. Then use some black paint or a marker to
> make that area black again.
>
> Todd
professional without them. I personally don't see much possiblity of
confusing things without the lines there. After all, the relative
position of the keys in relation to the display will remain the same. I
just don't see a purpose for them; to me they just add more 'busy-ness'
to the overall look. I don't mean to go on and on about this, I just
think the GX is an ideal design. I think they should have stuck with it
for the most part even if they had to change the keyboard and use
far-out colors, in fact that would have been an improvement IMHO, unlike
the present design.
Steve
Pete M. Wilson
actual case design and engineering (keys, cover/shell, display cover).
My 48sx and 41cv were much better in that regard.
Also, there are a lot of functions I'd like placed in different
positions. Unfortunately, such in depth changes can make User mode a
challenge (i.e. did CAT or MODE or HIST need to be unshifted? I'd
rather have X^2 unshifted (its kind of worthless as a shift key, just
hit Y^X 2 instead) and EVAL unshifted. Swap SYMB and EVAL. SYMB mainly
just provides two keystroke access to functions already on the
keyboard (in -117 SF mode). If the keyboard is a big shortcut list,
don't duplicate the shortcuts! Why not put NXT under F6 since it
affects the function keys?).
I think some of these keyboard choices reflect moving the 49 away from
a engineer's calculator toward a symbolic math machine - but don't you
use your workstation for that most of the time?
Steve <red...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Matt Maurano
Of course, this would be more convenient if flag -60 did not effect
the hold behavior of the alpha key.
Barry
were made in a way that makes it more difficult, at least for me. But I
guess I'm not a typical user.
But overall, I like the shape of the case and the way it feels in my hand
and I find this easier to type on, as well as faster. The editor is great.
Just everywhere I look I find things I like better. So the few things I
don't like better aren't really so bad.
I liked the shape of the 48 but I'm not sure, now that I've used it a
little, that I don't like this case better. Except for that damn screen
cover :)
Barry
Pete M. Wilson <wils...@drop.gamewood.net> wrote in message
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> I have to agree that the most annoying thing about my 49G has been the
> actual case design and engineering (keys, cover/shell, display cover).
> My 48sx and 41cv were much better in that regard.
>
> Also, there are a lot of functions I'd like placed in different
> positions. Unfortunately, such in depth changes can make User mode a
> challenge (i.e. did CAT or MODE or HIST need to be unshifted? I'd
> rather have X^2 unshifted (its kind of worthless as a shift key, just
> hit Y^X 2 instead) and EVAL unshifted. Swap SYMB and EVAL. SYMB mainly
> just provides two keystroke access to functions already on the
> keyboard (in -117 SF mode). If the keyboard is a big shortcut list,
> don't duplicate the shortcuts! Why not put NXT under F6 since it
> affects the function keys?).
>
John H Meyers
> I have to agree that the most annoying thing about my 49G has been the
> actual case design and engineering (keys, cover/shell, display cover).
> My 48sx and 41cv were much better in that regard.
And much more expensive, alas, although one might speculate
that it might not cost so much to improve things,
given that Casio and Sharp have somehow over a long history
built inexpensive but very well-designed,
reliable and long-lasting devices.
> Also, there are a lot of functions I'd like placed in different
> positions. Unfortunately, such in depth changes can make User mode a
> challenge (i.e. did CAT or MODE or HIST need to be unshifted? I'd
> rather have X^2 unshifted (its kind of worthless as a shift key, just
> hit Y^X 2 instead) and EVAL unshifted. Swap SYMB and EVAL...
You can in fact swap SYMB <-> EVAL, PRG <-> CAT,
and whatever else you want to do, via user key assignments,
which is a valuable (and now traditional) HP feature.
> Why not put NXT under F6 since it affects the function keys?
If it was envisioned that most new users would be selecting
functions from "choose lists," then NXT might not have had
that same significance; *however*, why don't NXT (and PREV)
scroll a page down (or up) in every CHOOSE list,
rather than having to press two keys for every next page?
To me, a one-button scroll-down via NXT would be a big gain.
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Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
so sometimes I think that the keyboard layout
could be changed to work in my way both in
user and normal mode. Something like a remap
(similar to KEYEVAL + STOKEYS)
or foreign keyboard and a few commands for
defining it plus the "hold backspace" to prevent
it from loading would ice the cake.
AND
I would also love to see a separate user-key
redefinition possibility for at least the alpha-mode
or better yet: for every environment, especially
the EQW.
Opinions?
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John H Meyers <jhme...@miu.edu> wrote in message
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!> wils...@drop.gamewood.net (Pete M. Wilson):
!>
!> > I have to agree that the most annoying thing about my 49G has been the
!> > actual case design and engineering (keys, cover/shell, display cover).
!> > My 48sx and 41cv were much better in that regard.
!>
!> And much more expensive, alas, although one might speculate
!> that it might not cost so much to improve things,
!> given that Casio and Sharp have somehow over a long history
!> built inexpensive but very well-designed,
!> reliable and long-lasting devices.
!>
!> > Also, there are a lot of functions I'd like placed in different
!> > positions. Unfortunately, such in depth changes can make User mode a
!> > challenge (i.e. did CAT or MODE or HIST need to be unshifted? I'd
!> > rather have X^2 unshifted (its kind of worthless as a shift key, just
!> > hit Y^X 2 instead) and EVAL unshifted. Swap SYMB and EVAL...
!>
!> You can in fact swap SYMB <-> EVAL, PRG <-> CAT,
!> and whatever else you want to do, via user key assignments,
!> which is a valuable (and now traditional) HP feature.
!>
!> > Why not put NXT under F6 since it affects the function keys?
!>
!> If it was envisioned that most new users would be selecting
!> functions from "choose lists," then NXT might not have had
!> that same significance; *however*, why don't NXT (and PREV)
!> scroll a page down (or up) in every CHOOSE list,
!> rather than having to press two keys for every next page?
!>
!> To me, a one-button scroll-down via NXT would be a big gain.
!>
!> -----------------------------------------------------------
!> With best wishes from: John H Meyers <jhme...@mum.edu>
!>
!>
!> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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