Can one remotely power off a C3600?
Dave
system, assuming the hardware supports it.
# poweroff
# init 5
Is there similar on HP-UX? Is there anything which would work with my antique
C3600 ?
If the hardware does not support Wake up on LAN, are there any tools made which
can power a machine on, if a LAN port is accessed?
Rick Jones
> On Solaris, there are a couple of commands that allow one to power
> off the system, assuming the hardware supports it.
> # poweroff
> # init 5
> Is there similar on HP-UX? Is there anything which would work with
> my antique C3600 ?
shutdown -h might do what you wish.
> If the hardware does not support Wake up on LAN, are there any tools
> made which can power a machine on, if a LAN port is accessed?
That would rather imply that WOL *was* supported - or at least a
version of waking with the LAN port :) If the c3600 and the OS/FW
support WOL, it should be stated somewhere in the c3600 manuals if
they still survive somewhere on docs.hp.com.
rick jones
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Dave
> Dave <f...@coo.com> wrote:
>> On Solaris, there are a couple of commands that allow one to power
>> off the system, assuming the hardware supports it.
>
>> # poweroff
>> # init 5
>
>> Is there similar on HP-UX? Is there anything which would work with
>> my antique C3600 ?
>
> shutdown -h might do what you wish.
Thank you. I'll try that.
>> If the hardware does not support Wake up on LAN, are there any tools
>> made which can power a machine on, if a LAN port is accessed?
>
> That would rather imply that WOL *was* supported - or at least a
> version of waking with the LAN port :) If the c3600 and the OS/FW
> support WOL, it should be stated somewhere in the c3600 manuals if
> they still survive somewhere on docs.hp.com.
I was not thinking of any hardware support from the HP C3600.
I was wondering if any company had produced hardware that could switch an
arbitrary bit of electronic hardware on/off? I could probably do myself, using
hardware I have.
1) Log into one machine of mine.
2) I stick a GPIB controller card in that.
3) GPIB controller card switches an old HP-relay (6 or so relays under GPIB control)
4) Relay applies power to the C3600.
I do not know if any company has ever produced anything like that? I expect it
is technically possible.
A couple of other people are using my C3600 (one is a Sage developer Minh Van
Nguyen, the other is Joerg Schilling the cdrecord developer). I've offered
access to someone else too, if he wants to test a bit of code.
Due to the C3600's rather high power consumption, and the fact it is not getting
a lot of use, if there was a simple way of allowing others to switch it on and
off, it would be nice.
Clearly, any method needs to be a bit more clever than simply removing the
power, as it would need to shut it down cleanly, but then it boot when power is
applied. It may not be technically possible to do that.
With gadgets around to switch the heating on in a house via a mobile phone, one
never knows if this could be done.
> rick jones
Rick Jones
> I was not thinking of any hardware support from the HP C3600.
> I was wondering if any company had produced hardware that could
> switch an arbitrary bit of electronic hardware on/off?
Not sure it goes "big enough" but ISTR X10 having something like that,
and perhaps a couple other vendors. A web search on "remote power
control" or somesuch would likely find them.
rick jones
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Benjamin Gawert
> On Solaris, there are a couple of commands that allow one to power off
> the system, assuming the hardware supports it.
>
> # poweroff
> # init 5
>
> Is there similar on HP-UX? Is there anything which would work with my
> antique C3600 ?
shutdown -h
> If the hardware does not support Wake up on LAN, are there any tools
> made which can power a machine on, if a LAN port is accessed?
The machine does not support WOL because it doesn't support standby modes.
You could shop around for an old rx server (or a even older A/D/K/N
class server) with remote management processor which can be switched on
and off remotely if that is what you want.
Benjamin
Stefaan A Eeckels
Dave <f...@coo.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if any company had produced hardware that could
> switch an arbitrary bit of electronic hardware on/off? I could
> probably do myself, using hardware I have.
Here's a power strip with an HTTP interface:
http://www.infratec-ag.de/index.php?id=99
The Infratec people also have quite professional rack-mounted 4 and 8
port power strips, with SNMP. A godsend when you're running a
lights-out operation with kit that doesn't have LO capabilities.
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Dave
> * Dave:
>> On Solaris, there are a couple of commands that allow one to power off
>> the system, assuming the hardware supports it.
>>
>> # poweroff
>> # init 5
>>
>> Is there similar on HP-UX? Is there anything which would work with my
>> antique C3600 ?
>
> shutdown -h
This does NOT appear to work on my C3600. It shuts it down, but the power
remains on.
>> If the hardware does not support Wake up on LAN, are there any tools
>> made which can power a machine on, if a LAN port is accessed?
>
> The machine does not support WOL because it doesn't support standby modes.
>
> You could shop around for an old rx server (or a even older A/D/K/N
> class server) with remote management processor which can be switched on
> and off remotely if that is what you want.
>
> Benjamin
I will not bother looking for anything else just on the basis of this. If I
could think of a neat way of doing it, I would.
I suspect if I bought that two wires across the front-panel switch to a socket
on the back, it would probably be possible to do this via some USB controlled
device quite easily. As long as it is near a machine that is on 24/7, I do not
think turning the C3600 on/off would be too hard, as the front panel switch will
shut the machine down cleanly. I would have thought some USB controlled device
could do that. Certainly I could do it with the GPIB-board and GPIB-controlled
relays, but that is a bit OTT.
Any solution I use must be cheaper than the cost of the electricity I will save!
Dave
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:12:18 +0000
> Dave <f...@coo.com> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering if any company had produced hardware that could
>> switch an arbitrary bit of electronic hardware on/off? I could
>> probably do myself, using hardware I have.
>
> Here's a power strip with an HTTP interface:
>
> http://www.infratec-ag.de/index.php?id=99
>
> The Infratec people also have quite professional rack-mounted 4 and 8
> port power strips, with SNMP. A godsend when you're running a
> lights-out operation with kit that doesn't have LO capabilities.
>
Thanks, but I'm looking for a fairly cheap solution. At the moment, someone
emails me when they want it on, and emails me when they have finished with it.
The ability for them to turn it off would have been nice. But shutdown -h does
not appear to remove the power.
It's not a big deal.
The switch on the front panel can be used to turn it on, and power it off
cleanly. I suspect that it a low voltage/current switch. I do not know if there
are any simple low-power USB controlled switches around, but I think there would
be. If one of them would work on Solaris, that would do the job ok.
I suspect in practice, the effort is too much for the gain, so I wont bother.
Dave
Rick Jones
> This does NOT appear to work on my C3600. It shuts it down, but the
> power remains on.
All the power remains on, or just the front panel display?
rick jones
would try it on his j5600 but is actually working on it :)
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Ted Linnell
>Dave <f...@coo.com> wrote:
>> This does NOT appear to work on my C3600. It shuts it down, but the
>> power remains on.
>
>All the power remains on, or just the front panel display?
>
>rick jones
>would try it on his j5600 but is actually working on it :)
shutdown -h halts the OS (hp-ux) only.
The machine will still be powered on.
Regards,
Ted.
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Dave
> Dave <f...@coo.com> wrote:
>> This does NOT appear to work on my C3600. It shuts it down, but the
>> power remains on.
>
> All the power remains on, or just the front panel display?
>
> rick jones
> would try it on his j5600 but is actually working on it :)
It appeared to be running - fans still going.
Dave
John Burns
> 3) GPIB controller card switches an old HP-relay (6 or so relays under GPIB control)
I think I have a suitable GPIB card lying around if anyone needs it.
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Dave
>> 2) I stick a GPIB controller card in that.
>> 3) GPIB controller card switches an old HP-relay (6 or so relays under GPIB control)
>
> I think I have a suitable GPIB card lying around if anyone needs it.
>
I have a National Instruments GPIB board (PCI) and I have the drivers for
Solaris (SPARC), but I do not have any for Solaris x86 which is really annoying.
NI want about �1000 for the drivers! I think the card with Windows drivers is
about �500, but with Solaris drivers its about �1500.
But I could hook up the GPIB board and put it in the Netra T1, which runs
Solaris (SPARC). Somehow it all seems more effort than it is actually worth though.
It would be an interesting challenge to find the cheapest way to do this, using
all new components. I suspect there must be some cheap USB based switches
around. That sounds like a first year student project for an electronics
student. My student days have long since gone unfortunately!
Interesting to think about, but less interesting to get the soldering iron out
and actually do it. Of course, if I had a real NEED for this, rather than 'IT
WOULD BE NICE' then I'd do it.
Dave