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Craig A Karchner

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Jan 12, 1995, 3:13:33 PM1/12/95

Admin types,

Having replaced all of our DEC equipment with HP I now have a couple DEC
SZ1Z C-CA expansion boxes with 2 DEC RZ57-E 1 GByte drives in them.

I am trying to hook these up to one of our 715's but no luck so far.
When I try to do a diskinfo I get a segmentation fault and a core dump.
When a try newfs I get can't open device. I created a disktab for it for
no swap. I have no idea of the jumper settings, however I do know it is
at address 5 and ioscan and SAM see's it (as a SCSI device) and that it
worked on the DEC box.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Admin types,

Having replaced all of our DEC equipment with HP I now have a couple DEC
SZ1Z C-CA expansion boxes with 2 DEC RZ57-E 1 GByte drives in them.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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I am looking for a circuit that generates the +48 volts on telephone lines so I can run two modems back to back. Does anyone have such a circuit? Thanks

Jeff Okleberry
je...@syseng.slc.unisysgsg.com

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From: frank....@filebank.cts.com (Frank Snively)
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-> ps-- Does anyone know about potntially fitting VF750F cams to a V45
-> Sabre? Are they different? One person told me that the Interceptor

The Sabre had chain driven cams. The VF750F has gear driven cams. Is
that different enough? <g>

The cut is indeed different. If you really want the engine to run as
you described, better get another machine.

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From: s...@haran.bellcore.com (Samuel S Epstein)
Subject: CD storage question
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The first CD holders I bought were from Hills Products in New
Hampshire. These are small drawer chests designed to fit in LP
cabinets. Their disadvantage is that there are no stops on the
drawers, so that you have to be very careful not to pull them out all
the way. In fact, they have no sliding hardware attached to the
drawers at all, but this isn't a problem for small drawers, except for
the lack of stops.

A better solution came from Country Workshop in New Jersey. This is an
oak chest of drawers with full extension locking slides. The drawers
are supplied with partitions to hold CD's. The partitions only run in
one dimension, so that double boxes and booklets of all thicknesses
can be stored as easily as single CDs. I want to finish converting my
LP storage (also from Country Workshop) to CD storage by buying more
drawers, but Country Workshop is going out of business and can't
fulfill this kind of order. Does anyone know of a company that can?
Alternatively, is there a company that makes small drawer chests to
fit in cabinets, but with slides that prevent the drawers from falling
out?

Please send me email as well as posting.
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Samuel S. Epstein, eps...@bellcore.com
Bellcore
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From: frank....@filebank.cts.com (Frank Snively)
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-> I have an '83 650 Nighthawk, I have been wondering if any of those
-> special spark-plugs such as Bosch Platinums, NGK Triple Tips,
-> Split-Fires, or etc. are worth the extra money.

In a word, no. There was a big thread here several months ago on some
kind of "plasma action" plug, with the general conclusion that there was
no measureable long-term advantage.

If there is a performance shop in your part of Columbus, with a dyno
stand, you might try a couple brands while you get power curves. We'd
all be interested in the results, particularly if you see more than 1 or
2 horsepower difference.

I replace plugs at the mfr's recommended intervals, and always feel like
I'm being taken. There is little or no electrode erosion, and the
insulators look fine.

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I have been very happy with a Canon Sureshot Z115 caption/date imprint
version (which comes with IR remote release). Optics are excellent for
a point and shoot camera.

It's in your price range, but wide end of zoom in only 38mm.

In article <3eugqm$i...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, <jgrape@coos> writes:
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> From: jgrape@coos (Johan A. Grape)
> Newsgroups: rec.photo.misc
> Subject: Recommendation on "all in one" camera sought.
> Date: 10 Jan 1995 17:40:38 GMT
> Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA
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> Hi all.
>
> Once again I turn to the usenet for recommendations...
>
> I am looking to buy a compact camera with all the fixins. Ie.
> I really like the Olympus cameras, especially the Infinity Super
> Zoom 2800 for reasons I will explain below:
>
> What I am looking for is:
>
> Zoom
> Wide angle (28mm a +)
> Flash
> Light weight
> Reasonably rugged
> Date + time stamp on film.
>
> The SuperZoom 2800 has all this except I can't tell about the
> Databack. (the dealer said yes, but when I picked one up
> in a camera store to look at it didn't have the databack.)
>
> Any other recommendations would be appreciated. I am looking
> to spend about $200 - $300
>
> Regards
> Johan
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From: bea...@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
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In article <3ejgrj$5...@leo.unm.edu> fro...@unm.edu (Anti anti-smoker) writes:
:
:I read somewhere once that procomm can be used with winsock
:provided another app (patch?) was also installed. I think it
:was called commit or commt. It kind of acts like a telnet
:client. Anyone ever heard of this.
:
:Thanks,
:Reggie.

Yeah I've heard of it. Its called comt. I downloaded it and installed it
but couldn't get it to work for the life of me. I got Twinsock 1.2 and
with the help of someone got it working so that now I can run Netscape
and Ftp from Windows. Connected over the phone line to its own server. It
works nice. Not all apps work with it though but I got those two working
along with telnet.
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In article <rocknrog-120...@plks-s1.intac.com>
rock...@intac.com (Roger D. Placer) writes:

>
>Hi everyone,
>
>With no flame intended to the most recent poster, I think I've seen the
>query "Are Carvin basses any good?" about 10 zillion times in the last six
>months!
>
>YES!! They are!! I cast my vote to put this in the FAQ. It certainly
>qualifies as a frequently asked question, and I've never seen an answer
>that varies from mine above (I have a purple LB-75F fretless 5'er).
>
>Respectfully,
>Roger
>
>--
> Roger D. Placer - rock...@intac.com - N2PQA - Oakland, NJ **************************************************************************
>'92 Gibson ES-775 - sunburst '74 Fender Jazzmaster - sunburst
>'92 LP Classic '60 reissue - gold '93 Carvin fretless 5string - purple
>'91 Fender Strat Plus - wine red '90 Fender Jazz Plus - white

Dear Bassists..
I've owned a 4 string active Carvin for about 2 years now, and I'll tell ya
...THEY ARE GREAT. For the money you can't beat it. It's a quality bass,
it's user friendly, versitile, and has great tone. Bass player rated it a
5 out of 5 in all categories....and so do I....

Bill Chrapcynski
bassist for TEMPO TANTRUM
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From: th...@cis.ohio-state.edu (Martin Thurn)
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I have added a calendar of new & future SW product releases to my SW
Bible WWW pages. The address is in my .signature below.
Happy collecting!

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From: g...@mindspring.com (Gene Durrence)
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I have a Cardinal DSP-144 Modem that requires a firmware download each time it
is turned on. This is no problem from DOS because there is a program that
Autoexec.bat runs to download it. I can also run DOS first to download the
firmware and then I can use the modem when I run OS/2 if I don't turn off the
computer. My problem comes when I first turn on the computer and run OS/2
first. If I go to the DOS directory and try to run the download program I get
the message that some other application is using the modem even though no
other program is using it. If anyone else is using this modem with OS/2 will
you please tell me how to do it? I just loaded OS/2 and know very little
about the fine points of setting it up.

Gene
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From: e...@freud.inst.com (The Last American Virgin)
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Christopher N. Roberts (cn...@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote:
: Seen several postings on Heretic and curious as to what is and where
: I can get a shareware on it.
: Thanks for info.
: cn...@ra.msstate.edu

It's a game based on the Doom engine. It's got a fantasy setting and
adds a couple new features like look-up/down and flying. It's made by
Raven Software and published by ID. You can pick it up on
ftp.cdrom.com/.5/id/heretic or through ftp.idsoftware.com

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From: bea...@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
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In article <3engaj$g...@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> doub...@rz.fh-augsburg.de
(Rainer Geissendoerfer) writes: >
: Is there anybody in space who knows about (DOS-) TERM-client + Tools,
to connect a DOS-PC with a UNIX-Server via Dial-Up by Serial-Line (modem) ?

Well, I've played with Twinsock 1.2. It allows you to run some Winsock
apps under windows over a phone line. Of course, if you're using term you
probably want that wonderful upload/download at the same time stuff. Only
one thing I can suggest. Get Linux.

I installed linux and downloaded the program called term Version 1.08. I
compiled it for both my machine and the remote one. I connected just fine
and let me tell you. I was in heaven. I downloaded a large file, switch
over to another session and uploaded a large file. Then I switched again
like the crazy person I am and started reading news. All this I did over
ONE phone line. Oh the beauty of it.

Sorry, I haven't heard of anything like this for ...DOS... but Linux sure
has it. Try it, you'll like it.
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From: mik...@hero-uk.demon.co.uk (Mike Lacey)
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Subject: Perl5 on Dynix 3
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Dear Everybody (and Larry as well)

I have a problem compiling perl5.000 for Dynix 3.0.17.9.

The problem is an undefined symbol "_fmod" - most frustrating.

No problem compiling for Dynix/ptx.

Anybody got any useful thoughts? It does occur to me that there's
probably a later version of perl5 around. If there is perhaps someone
could let me know of an ftp site where it's available.

Mike.

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Another month end completed successfully.
All staff happy and fulfilled.
All systems up and running.
All pigs fed and ready to fly.
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From: mjackson@fxopt46 (Mark E. Jackson)
Subject: Re: Best way to learn IFR
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In article <3erit5$1m...@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU> a1...@ns2.CC.Lehigh.EDU (JEFF
CUTTER) writes:
> I am just about finished with my PPL, and I want to start IFR training
ASAP!
> (Holy acronyms!)
>
> I have seen ads for a lot of schools that offer accelerated IFR courses
most
> for under $3000 and many that claim to have FAA exemption from written
and
> practical tests.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions as to the best way to get an instrument
rating?
> Fast crash (no pun intended) course, or slow on the weekends? Any
comments on
> the FAA exemption thing?
>
> Help!
>
> Thanks, -Jeff

Some school operating under part 141 are allowed to use progressive exams.
These typically cover a subject that you just studied and practiced.
There is NO exemption from the practical test. You have to pass that,
although alot of schools have designated examiners on their staff to make
the scheduling more convenient.

Mark Jackson
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From: fp...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Li-Wei Tsai)
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Subject: Jason Arnott 15 Nat'l Classic promo $5
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I have a Classic Jason Arnott promo from the 15th Nationals for $5.
On the back of the card is the 15th Nat'l logo in gold foil.
liwei
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I have just started programming in VB and have encountered the following
problem:

I have a subroutine which creates a Dynaset and attempts to apply a filter
based on a variable passed to that subroutine:

Sub GetTeamRecord (TCode As Integer)

Set Games = NBA_Db.CreateDynaset("NBA-1995")
Games.Filter = "[Home-Team] = TCode"
HomeGames = Games.CreateDynaset ( )

When I execute this code I get an "Unable to Bind 'TCode'" error message.

How does one use a defined of passed variable in an SQL or Filter statement?

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From: "Rajesh Sharma" <rsh...@cs.indiana.edu>
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In <3f1l66$n...@news1.shell> pmi...@shell.portal.com (Paul - Miller) writes:

>I'm using OpenGL in a GLX widget, and when I draw bitmap text with
>glBitMap() or use glDrawPixels(), if the origin is below the window edge
>(ie. glRasterPos() with y < 0) the transfer does not happen. Is this
>supposed to happen, or am I forgetting some magical OpenGL command?
>
>Thanks for any advice!

See the NOTES section of the man pages for glRasterPos:

When the raster position coordinates are invalid, drawing commands that
are based on the raster position are ignored (that is, they do not result
in changes to GL state).

>
>--
>Paul Miller | "I am Pentium of Borg, you will be approximated."
>SGI Software Engineer | The opinions expressed by me do not necessarily
>Elastic Reality, Inc. | reflect those of my employers.
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From: Bruce Olson <bo1...@delphi.com>
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I am a high school teacher and my students are interested in building
a electric vehicle. I need information concerning D.C./P.M. motors either
12 or 24 v. I have found a source for motors (surplus) but need a formula
for the following variables: amp draw, h.p., torque, and voltage if there
is such an animal. Voltage would be the only constant and the RPM would
want to be under 1000 as the top speed would be about 30-35 mph with a
direct drive 16" wheel. Is any of this possible or am I just blowing
smoke? I am open to any suggestions and especially the simple ones.
Any suggestions or directions greatly appreciated.
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From: r...@fnbc.com
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> > In article 1...@tkarner.Warren.MENTORG.COM, tka...@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom
Karner [Consultant]) writes:
> > I own a 1995 six speed Camaro Z28 in polo green with black leather.
> > Hardly a white trash car. While I agree that previous Camaros had
> > an image problem, the current Camaro conveys an image of INTELLIGENCE
> > because their owners can see that it is among the fastest, best handling,
> > safest, most reliable cars IN THE WORLD .....
Where do you get the idea that it among the fastest, best handling, safest,
most reliable? I used to own a Z28 and it was the least reliable car of the
four I've owned. I will never purchase another car from Chevrolet. I would
also rank it the lowest in terms of handling (especially in winter). IMHO the
Camaro & Mustang are the bottom end of performance cars. Sorry to burst your
bubble.
Rich
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From: tlad...@acs.ryerson.ca (Terry Ladouceur)
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Hello all.

Well I just jumped into the OS2 Warp world and I am definately still
fumbling around. Everything went well regarding installation etc, but I
am having a few problems.

First off, I am running a Video card that is not supported in the disks
provided. Now I don't know much about Vid Cards but mine is a UMC85C4X8
SVGA 256 Colour wth 1 MB Ram (Came with the system). I have MS Windows
drivers that work fine, but OS2 of course cannot use that driver. As well
I do know that in DOS I was using a Universal VESA Driver for the card.
Is there some driver out there that I could use to get 256 colour rather
than this 16 colour? Hate not using the equipment to it's fullest.

As well, for the Multi Media Players, I installed both the one that came
with the OS disks and the one that came with the Bonus Pack. Although the
included example AVI of the Macaw works, the AVI that I tried came up as
an incompatible compression method. As well the MPG was not recognized at
all. Anyone know of a good Multi Media Player that I could get?

Thanks to all that may beable to help. TTYL

Tery
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From: sch...@pb.com (Kenneth A. Schulz)
Subject: Re: Inversion of video: best way?
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dka...@hpqt0147.sqf.hp.com (Dick Kaulfuss) writes:

>Sam Goldwasser (s...@colossus.stdavids.picker.com) wrote:
>: You can take a transistor amp that's common emitter and put enough
>: negative feedback around it so that it's got a gain of unity and a wide
>: bandwidth. Then an emitter follower stage to drive the 75 ohm video
>: output. The whole thing should work off some 3 or 6 volt batteries for
>: a decent length of time.

>: If all he really wants is the exact negative of composite video, then this
>: will work. My interpretation would be that what is actually needed is
>: a valid composite waveform with negative sync tips in which case the
>: sync needs to be stripped off first, the video signal inverted, and then
>: the sync recombined. The resulting picture would look like a photographic
>: negative.

> But the chroma information would still have the same phase relationship to
> the subcarrier burst, so the colours would remain the "same", albeit at
> different luminance levels. I think he'd have to separate the chroma from
> the burst and process it separately (simple inversion may not be enough to
> achieve the desired effect - is he trying to display colo(u)r negatives as
> positives on a TV screen?)

> Dick

Messing around with encoded color sounds daunting. Maybe he would be best off
converting from the encoded color (NTSC or PAL or SECAM) to RGB, then back
again. All the color processing could be done in the RGB domain. To invert
colors, I think you would sum across channel pairs; i.e.
Ro = 0.5Gi + 0.5Bi
Go = 0.5Ri + 0.5Bi
Bo = 0.5Ri + 0.5Gi

where the subscripts identify input and output color channels. This should
yield a pseudo-Cyan-Magenta-Yellow image, I think. You could do some
"color correction" by tweaking the coefficients (using pots for the summers).

Any comments? Is this completely loony?

Ken
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From: rw8...@csc.albany.edu (Roland W)
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In article <3eu03i$7...@zaphod.crihan.fr>,
Sebastien.Robidou <robidou@vdr> wrote:
>Hi, I'd like to know which effects are used by Slash on the intro
>
>riff of Sweet Child of mine
>
> Thanks in advance.

think it's just his gibson, marshall stack, etc. it's the same guitar
that jimmy page plays. (nice sound and all, but it's been done quite
a bit already.)
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From: bea...@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
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Hey guys,

I got the descent demo and I'll admit. It was different and interesting.
It became much more fun to play when I hooked up with a friend over the
modem. Only one thing that I HATE/ABHOR/DESPISE. I don't like it much, is
that everytime one of us gets caught as the place explodes we lose all
the weapons and shields we had amassed. Sure this is more realistic but
it isn't fun. The place is so big but thats ok. I like hunting. After a
few times of him blowing the place up after I had gotten some nice
weapons and shields I just quit the game.

Is there any way to change this?
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>>>>> "Christian" == Christian Balzer <c...@brewhq.swb.de> writes:

>> Which is due to the masters, not the discs. The Japanese master recordings
>> are really shitty quality, so anything made from them is going to be bad,
>> too.

Christian> Ahh! That explains the high consistency and "quality" of that
Christian> combined attack on my visual and aural nerves... ;-)

You think that's bad, Neil had to work up the script from the video because
the hardcopies had been tossed. Now /that/ is pain.

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Hello,

Is it possible to connect a Personal LaserWriter 320 to a 486 PC Computer? If
so, what hardware/software do I need?

Please respond directly if possible. Thanks.

Tevine
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From: demi...@llnl.gov (Mike DeMicco)
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In article <3f3qp6$i...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Tim Regan <tre...@srd.bt.co.uk> writes:

> Whilst we're on the subject I'm having trouble
> getting into my Time Sport (or is it Sprint)
> pedals. It takes ages of pushing and twisting
> about. The shoes aren't Time but Gaerne with
> Look -> Time converter.

You might check to see if you have the newer designed cleats. Mine
clipped in easier with them. However, I gave up on them (Time Sport)
and switched to Looks, because the Times were still much harder to
click in.

You might check with a couple of bike shops. Maybe there's a fix.
Also try lubricating the cleats and pedal interface points and keep the
cleats and pedals clean. This should help.

_________________________________________________________
Opinions expressed here are my own and not my employer's.

Mike De Micco <demi...@llnl.gov>
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In article <D2Auq...@ecf.toronto.edu>,
DOYLE PATRICK <doy...@ecf.toronto.edu> wrote:
>In article <3f0e1v$c...@individual.puug.pt>,
>Carlos Antunes <cm...@individual.puug.pt> wrote:

>>What's wrong with the cosmological constant? It's a perfectly valid
>>mathematical result.
>
> Huh? No it's not. Einstein's theories did not predict it. He inserted it
>for no other reason than to make the universe stop moving.

That's true. (Though, as it turned out, it wouldn't really do this,
since the equilibrium obtained is unstable.)

>But since it is
>moving, the cosmological constant is invalid.

Not necessarily. We don't know that there *isn't* one; a CC smaller
than Einstein's could still exist. It can do all sorts of other
things, such as slowing the early evolution of the universe with a
"hesitation" period, or making it inflate exponentially. Some
cosmologists have suggested that they may be forced to resort to
models with CC's if the Hubble constant turns out too high to be
consistent with stellar ages otherwise.

>And it certainly wasn't a
>result.

It is in the sense that one can show that putting it in doesn't break
the theory. Also, it turns out that if the universe has a nonzero
vacuum energy that couples to gravity, that should act as a
cosmological constant. In fact, inflationary cosmology can be
described as a scenario in which the universe had an immense CC for a
brief period in its early history, causing a rapid exponential
expansion.
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From: dav...@alantec.com (Dave DeBuhr)
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ne...@netcom.com (Michael J. Swan) writes:

>Switches can make debugging network segments difficult.

Most do!

>For example, consider an Ethernet segment that physically
>connects a number of devices. By placing a protocol analyzer
>on the segment, one can trace all Ethernet data sent on the
>segment from any of the devices. By replacing the Ethernet
>segment with a switch, the protocol analyzer becomes useless
>since the data is switched between ports rather than over
>the Ethernet bus.

ALANTEC's PowerHub has a feature called Port Monitor which allows
a protocol analyzer to be placed on one port. Through software
commands, traffic on any of the ports can be monitored on the
monitor port. For example, the "sniffer" could be placed on your
desk and attached to port 30 of a PowerHub. Through software,
you can command the switch to forward all of the traffic on port 6
to port 30...or all of the traffic on port 6 destined for port 8, etc.
You can even monitor a FDDI network over Ethernet, as long as the FDDI
ring isn't too busy :) . The info is in an Ethernet frame and not FDDI
but all of the info is there.

Dave DeBuhr
ALANTEC
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From: tra...@zexel.com (Travis Eaton)
Subject: SALE: LEGENDS (cards added) 1/12
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All cards are in Mint Unplayed condition. This is a SALE!

First come, first served. Read the end of the post for postage.

All responses can be sent to >>>>>> tra...@zexel.com
EMAIL YOUR ADDRESS AT THE TIME YOU ORDER

I only have one of each card, unless there is a number following the
card.

Artifacts Rare
-----------------
Al-abara's Carpet $7.00
Arena of the Ancients 7.00
Bronze Horse(2) 7.00
Knowledge Vault(2) 8.00
Mana Matrix 9.00
Sentinel(2) 7.00
Serpent Generator 20.00
Voodoo Doll 7.00
Triassic Egg 9.00

Black
-----
All Hallow's Eve 17.00
Carrion Ants 23.00
Cosmic Horror 8.00
Hellfire(2) 10.00
Imprison 8.00
Mold Demon(2) 8.00
Nether Void 10.00
The Wretched 20.00

Blue
----
Elder Spawn(2) 7.00
In the Eye of Chaos(2) 7.00
Juxtapose 8.00
Psionic Entity(2) 7.00
Telekinesis (2) 6.00

Green
-----
Elven Riders(2) 8.00
Pixie Queen 7.00
Willow Satyr(2) 7.00
Wood Elemental(2) 7.00

Red
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Caverns of Despair(2) 6.00
Storm World 7.00
Tempest Efreet 6.00

White
-----
Akron Legionnaire (2) 8.00
Cleanse 13.00
Petra Sphinx 8.00
Rapid Fire 8.00

Legends
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Adun Oakenshield(3) 8.00
Angus Mackenzie 9.00
Axelrod Gunnarson 9.00
Gosta Dirk(2) 7.00
Halfdane 8.00
Johan 10.00
Lady Evangela(2) 8.00
Livonya Silone 8.00
Palladia-Mors 20.00
Ragnar 9.00
Rubina Soulsinger 12.00
Sol'Kanar the Swamp King 12.00
Ur-Drago 9.00
Xira Arien 9.00

One AQ rare artifact
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Tetravus 11.00

Black Uncommon
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Abomination(2) 3.50
Blight 3.50
Demonic Torment 3.00
Infernal Medusa 4.00
Shimnian Night Stalker 3.50
Touch of Darkness 3.00
Wall of Putrid Flesh 2.50
Wall of Tombstones 2.50

Blue Uncommon
-------------
Backfire 3.00
Brine Hag 3.00
Dream Coat 3.00
Part Water 3.00
Puppet Master 3.00
Relic Bind 3.00
Sea Kings' Blessing 3.00
Segovian Leviathan(2) 3.00
Silhouette 2.50
Undertow 2.00
Wall of Wonder 3.00

Green Uncommon
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Cocoon 3.00
Deadfall(2) 2.00
Floral Spuzzem 3.00
Ichneumon Druid 2.50
Pradesh Gypsies 2.50
Reincarnation(3) 3.00
Sylvan Paradise 2.00
Untamed Wilds(3) 2.00

Red Uncommon
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Aerathi Berserker 3.00
Backdraft 2.00
Beasts of Bogardan 3.00
Crevasse(2) 2.00
Dwarven Song 2.00
Frost Giant 3.00
Hyperion Blacksmith 2.00
Mountain Yeti(2) 3.00
Primordial Ooze(2) 3.00

White Uncommon
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Fortified Area 3.00
Great Defender 3.00
Great Wall 2.00
Heaven's Gate 3.00
Presence of the Master 3.00
Righteous Avengers 3.00
Seeker 3.00
Shield Wall 2.00
Visions 3.00
Wall of Light 3.00

Legends Uncommon
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Barktooth Warbeard 3.00
Hunding Gjornersen 3.00
Jedit Ojanen 2.00
Jerrard of the Closed Fist 3.00
Marhault Elsdragon 3.00
Ramirez DePietro 2.00
Riven Turnbull 3.00
Sir Shandlar of Eberyn 3.00
Sivitri Scarzam 3.00
The Lady of the Mountain 3.00
Tobias Andrion 3.00
Torsten Von Ursus 3.00

Postage is $1.25 per order regarless of how many (or few) cards you
buy. I ship cards in a hard plastic case inside of a padded
envelope.

I am selling the cards for somebody else, so these cards cannot be
ordered with another sale that I am running (sorry).

After I receive your order, I will email you back with confimation
of what is available, the total price and my mailing info.

If you have any questions, just ask.
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Harvey,
As regards your question about the 2.8 zoom, the reason it is so
expensive is that it is 2.8 through the whole zoom range, it doesn't
ramp as you zoom in as all of the others do. this is very handy for
available light.
Unfortunately there is a pay-off. the fast zoms are also very heavy
because all the elements are so much bigger. But the extra quality
is definitely there.
Have a look at the Angenieux F2.6 28-70. It is a beaut. After all,
they did invent the zoom.

Mick Fanning, Australian Broadcasting Corporation

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From: bea...@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
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In article <3ej56n$r...@marr.ecs.soton.ac.uk> t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) writes:
:
:In <tremmorD...@netcom.com> tre...@netcom.com (Walter H) writes:
:
:>try this: find a bunch of monsters, and an appropriate, narrow escape passage,
:>piss them off to get them going your way, and lay some mines. the monsters
:> will stop just short of the mine(s).
:
:Their best use is in "deathmatch" when you have someone chasing you :)
:
:Tim

I had fun. While in deathmatch I had a friend who just loved to exit the game
without fighting me. Well, I put three bombs just behind the red door. I went
away some distance and I found him. I fought him and sure enough, he charged for
the red door to try and finish before I could kill him. Oh it was funny. He died
and I took his stuff. I gave him a complex about that exit let me tell you.

When I was finally ready to let him do it I waited right by the exit and when he
blew the guy up and put bombs all over and around the exit and left. He never
made it out. He admitted later that he came running for the exit and got blown
to bits.

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From: mho...@rtd.com (Mark J. Howell)
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Subject: Re: Bug?
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In article <9JAN1995...@mrl.arc.nasa.gov> rag...@mrl.arc.nasa.gov (ART RAGOSTA) writes:
>From: rag...@mrl.arc.nasa.gov (ART RAGOSTA)
>Subject: Bug?
>Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:10 PDT

>I have JUST STARTED Paradox (5.0 for Windows). I have a problem...

>I created (for learning purposes, but also functional) an address book
>database. I created a form for query and update. Everything looks good
>and works fine. Then I added a field called "Christmas Card", which is
>logical, so that I can generate a Christmas Card mailing list. I added
>a Santa clip art image to the form. I intended to make the image
>invisible for entries that weren't on my list. After some experimentation,
>I decided that I needed to add the following code to the main form:

> if eventInfo.id() = DataArriveRecord then
> #Bitmap30.visible = Christmas_Card
> endif

>Since I didn't want to screw up my nice form, I first tried it on a new,
>temporary form created with the expert. Everyhting worked perfectly!!
>Then, I deleted the temporary form and added the code to the real form.
>Now, I get "unknown identifier" with "Christmas_Card" hihglighted when I
>run the form. I have repeated the test 3 times, carefully checking for
>differences, typing errors, etc. Always the same results!!!

>Any ideas?

>AR

Your "Christmas_Card" reference will yield the value property of the object
named "Christmas_Card" on your form. If you have a field object on the form
called "FOO" which refers to the Christmas_Card field in a table, you need to
use #Bitmap30.visible = FOO

Check the name of the field object on your form which refers to the
Christmas_Card field in your table.

Mark J. Howell
mho...@rtd.com
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From: John Rethorst <jc...@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Difference between WordPerfect 3.1 and Student Essentials?
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In article <acheslow-080...@acheslow.mindspring.com> Alan M.
Cheslow, ache...@mindspring.com writes:
>I've seen the WordPerfect Student Essentials, which claims to include a
>full version of WordPerfect 3.1, listed for $85 right next to ad for just
>3.1 which is listed at $300. Whats the deal here? Do you really get
>everything in the Student Essentials that you get in the individually
>packaged WordPerfect 3.1?

The student pack has the full WP 3.1, plus 100 truetype fonts, the Random
House/Webster's dictionary & thesaurus (which I'm told breaks under sys
7.5), French/Spanish/German language modules, Document Experts formatting
templates, and a golf game. $69 at MacConnection.

John R.
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From: Tony Månsson <10041...@CompuServe.COM>
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Subject: Ace consultant, OOA/OOD Embedded
Date: 8 Jan 1995 23:22:20 GMT
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Available immediately for Assignment in Northern Europe.
Rate 55 ECU/hour
TONY MANSSON
RESUME January 8, 1995

OBJEKTUTVECKLING AB Phone: +46 10 201 37 93
P. O. BOX 143 Fax: +46 40 41 27 76
S-234 23 LOMMA Internet: to...@objektutveckling.se
SWEDEN CompuServe: 100414,3352

PROFILE Very diversified experience in S/W Development
Full life cycle experience
Object Oriented S/W engineering expert
Very experienced in Test methodology
Good mentor and teacher. Team leadership experience
Fluent in English and Swedish. Some German and French

EDUCATION M.S. Electrical Engineering, 1979.
Lund Institute of Technology, Lund, Sweden.

CURRENT In business as independent consultant. Incorporated as
Objektutveckling AB since 1991.

Compuserve does not allow a full resume post, Please Email for
full details. For OOA/OOD C++, look no further!

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Box 143, S-234 23 LOMMA, Sweden
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From: mho...@rtd.com (Mark J. Howell)
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In article <9JAN1995...@mrl.arc.nasa.gov> rag...@mrl.arc.nasa.gov (ART RAGOSTA) writes:
>From: rag...@mrl.arc.nasa.gov (ART RAGOSTA)
>Subject: Bug?
>Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:10 PDT

>I have JUST STARTED Paradox (5.0 for Windows). I have a problem...

> if eventInfo.id() = DataArriveRecord then
> #Bitmap30.visible = Christmas_Card
> endif

>Any ideas?

>AR

Check the name of the field object on your form which refers to the
Christmas_Card field in your table.

Mark J. Howell
mho...@rtd.com
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From: bea...@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
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Hey guys,

I find myself embarking on a new adventure. I have been asked to write
some software that is pen-based. One thing I'll be doing is writing a
user interface which allows the user to select choices using the pen.
Also, the user needs to be able to draw and I'll need so be able to save
the image.

So, what do you guys suggest? I do not believe money is too much of a
problem since this company just got a 1 million dollar contract so give
me all your suggestions. And time is of the essence. I believe they need
it done by Feb. 3 so I don't have time to learn complicated packages.

Please e-mail me your responses but I monitor these newsgroups as well
and will definately be looking at them for the next couple of weeks.
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From: bwr...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Brent Ross)
Subject: Re: Favorite BGC character???
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In article <sukebeD2...@netcom.com>,
Gautama Buddha <suk...@netcom.com> wrote:
// In article <D28K...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
// Brent Ross <bwr...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
//
// >She got quite far... she almost got to kill Piss. Pity she wimped out
// >and didn't do it though.
//
// *cough*
//
// I _DO_ so hope you meant something else ^_^

Why should I mean something else. The series gets much better when Piss
dies and Vision takes over (besides we get someone with actual voice
talent who can sing).

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bwr...@uwaterloo.ca // Medea." -- mlvanbie // mead." -- mtompset
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The original question was whether the Ivy League is a WASP
group. It was, it less so so now. The term was first used, apparently,
in the context of American football, and apparently everyone understood
from the start that it included the 8 schools which have been mentioned
here several times. I have heard that it was used contemptuously by a
New York sports writer who had to cover an Ivy game when he would rather
have been elsewhere. The IV=4 story is undocumented and simply doesn't
fit the football history of the schools involved - the only time there
were exactly 4 was in the late 1890s (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn)
and there were several realignments after that (such as Harvard, Penn,
Cornell v. Yale, Princeton, Navy for several years). A study of the
opponents of these 8 schools does show that, overwhelmingly, they
played each other (though on that basis you might also have expected
to see Colgate and Holy Cross) and that the make-up was fully understood
before the group was formalized as the Ivy Group in the early 1950s.
But all the above is in a sense question-begging. Why did they
play each other? Why, in particular was Rutgers omitted? (Cornell is a
state school too, in part). It is a legitimate question of social
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From: vpa...@inf.utfsm.cl (Victor Parada G.)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: convert \x to ascii? No chr() in MacPerl?
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Hola mundo.

Peter Fraterdeus <pet...@alphabets.com> wrote:
>I am writing my (ahem) first PERL script to take the gibberish that is
>sent by Netscape, as output from a form, and turn it into something more
>legible to humans...

>(I'm sure that this script already exists, can someone point it at me?)

>I am having trouble converting the inline HEX codes back to ASCII.

>The PERLFUNC pages show a chr() function to take a decimal value back to a
>character, but MacPerl doesn't accept this function.

>The script so far:
[script deleted]

Try adding this subroutine: (or using some of its components)

sub unescape {
local($_)=@_;
tr/+/ /;
# s!\\(.)!$1!ge;
s/%(..)/pack("c",hex($1))/ge;
$_;
}

If you run your program as a CGI script on u*ix, the commented line must
be uncommented, to also unescape some shell escapes.

Bye... ++Vitoco
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From: bea...@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Pen-Based Software
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Hey guys,

Please e-mail me your responses but I'll monitor this group for the next
few weeks. Just to clarify I'm looking for a library of some type. A
C/C++ GUI library that supports pen or something that I can add onto
existing GUI libraries.
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In article <3es02k$5...@hermes.synopsys.com> jb...@synopsys.com (Joe Buck) writes:
>newc...@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe) writes:
>>True...the source for GCC is freely availiable, but the question was does it
>>come with the Slackware distribution. The answer to the question is NO.

>If this were true, then Slackware would be in infringement of the GPL.
>Fortunately, it's not true. I have Slackware 2.1 and I assure you that
>the source to gcc is on the CDROMs.

It is on the CD-Rom, and was probably placed there by the people that made the
CD-Rom. If you ftp sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/distributions/slackware, I wish
you luck in finding the source in one of those distributions.

>It is illegal for a distributor to produce a binary-only distribution
>of a GPL'ed product.

No it isn't. I can ship you a binary of a GPL'ed program, but in doing so, I
must do ONE of the following:
a) ship it with the source
b) give it to you with a written offer, valid for three years, to give you
the source in a machine readable format for only the cost of the
distribution.
c) send it along with whatever info I got as far as obtaining the source.
This has the conditions that a) It's a non-commercial distribution, and b)
only if I received the code in binary form.

Now - I assume this means that we can all e-mail Peter and ask for the source
for GCC, and since he is the one distributing Slackware, then he must send it
to us one way or another.

Personally I think that the GPL should be ammended so that if the distribution
is obtained in binary format via a form of downloading, then as long as the
source for the dist. is availiable via the same form of downloading, though
maybe not the same site, it's okay.

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>>>>> "U36300" == U36300 <U36...@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

[...]

U36300> Walther, Pippi Kei; (see Lovely Angels)
U36300> ---pretty appropriate, huh??

You deserve to be slapped for that one. Hard.

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From: rhu...@ucsd.edu (Richard J. Hughes)
Newsgroups: sci.environment,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: privatising national parks
Date: 8 Jan 1995 16:30:49 GMT
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>The only one I've heard mentioned so far is Great Basin National Park in
>Nevada. Representative Jim Hansen (Utah), the new chair of the national
>parks subcommitte, singled it out. Apparently he wasn't impressed with
>the scenery when he visited. Others believe that 13,000 foot Wheeler Peak
>rising out of the Nevada desert is pretty impressive.

The Sierra Club's future mission will be to fight to keep those parks that
we already have instead of fighting to create new ones.

>He says that Parks don't bring in enough money to justify their keep.

This is inexcusable. I thought all the National Parks were "set aside for
the American people to enjoy in perpetuity" or something to that effect.
^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

Richard

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From: mmul...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Mulhern Michael D)
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Subject: Defective 240Mb HD
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I don't know whether this will help anyone or not. I thought anyone who
works on hard drives and needs parts or likes repairing things like this
might be interested.

Anyway, it is a Quantum 240Mb HD (IDE)

I was in a computer that got hit by lightening and in got partially
fried. You hook it up and all seems ok except for that it sounds like
it is constantly accessing the disk. You can copy files to the disk
and usually copy them back however if you try to run a program from the
disk you'll get a drive error.

If this is worth anything to anyone let me know. Otherwise I'll probably
toss it.

Mike Mulhern

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From: dz...@apexgrp.com (Joe Herman)
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I've been trying to configure IBM's PPP to talk to a Shiva LanRover.
I am able to get SLIP successfully taling to it, but I'd really like
to get PPP going so I could try Netbeui as well as TCP. However, the
PPP connection never comes up. Lots of "unknown option" messages
that prevent a connection. Is there a debugging mode or some way I
can find out what the PPP option negotiation is doing?

Thanks,

Joe Herman
dz...@apexgrp.com
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From: per...@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au (Stu...@law.utas.edu.au)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: "Defend This" Marathon help wanted
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In article <138939996...@lamgnet.lamg.com>, Vik_Ru...@lamg.com wrote:

> You know the room on the "Defend This" Marathon level, where the floor crushes
> you into the cieling? How do you get out of there?
>
> Thanks in advance.

There's a secret door in the North East if I remember correctly

Regards,
Hook
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From: gil...@andrews.edu (Andrew Gillham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: FreeBSD/NetBSD/LINUX - Sun/SPARC version yet?
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In article <3eo6kv$k...@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> wp...@ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul) writes:
>
>Daring to challenge the will of the almighty Leviam00se,
>Contractor - Stuart Tener (te...@corp.hp.com) had the courage to say:
>
>: But -- does freebsd work on the sparc?
>
>No.
>

NetBSD works great on the SPARC. It is not so different from FreeBSD,
you should give it a try!

mybox:~> uname -a
NetBSD mybox 1.0 NetBSD 1.0 (MYBOX) #0: Mon Oct 24 18:32:46 EDT 1994
gillham@mybox:/Net/ghost/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc/compile/MYBOX sparc
mybox:~> uptime
2:50PM up 73 days, 19:53, 1 user, load averages: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00

As you can see, its real *STABLE* too.. :-)

-Andrew
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From: OW...@library.health.ufl.edu (High Voltage)
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In article <deese.31...@mc.duke.edu> de...@mc.duke.edu writes:

>I've only seen this guy play twice this year, both times against the Hornets,
>but he has looked AWESOME. Is he really this good? I've heard a little about
>him deserving to make the All-Star team, and from the two games I've seen, I
>can't argue.

He's been a terrific rebounder and fair defender throughout his pro career.
When he was with Golden State, Don Nelson would get irritated by his inability
to adapt to their schemes. Therefore, I think it helped Hill when he was
traded to Cleveland. He certainly has made tremedous strides in his
improvement, particularily on offense.

Owen

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From: mss...@ucs.usl.edu (Sharp Mitchell S)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
Subject: Thinkpad 500 Windows Video Drivers Needed
Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:41:33 GMT
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I 'm looking for video drivers for my IBM Thinkpad 500.
It's got a 64 color grayscale LCD screen and I want to know
if anyone has any 640x480x64 color drivers for windows!

Please mail me at mss...@usl.edu
Thanks!

Mitch Sharp

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From: pd0...@tntech.edu (Prashant Devaraju)
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: advice/advisor for MD/PhD needed!
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From: pd0...@tntech.edu (Prashant Devaraju)
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hi there,
i am a chemical engineer ,graduate student,thinking of
prusuing further studies in bioengineering.Specifically , i am
thinking of getting into a PhD/MD program in a bioengineering
centre in any school.
i am trying to contact a chemical engineer who has gone
through this situation before (if there is someone like me earlier)
and is currently a student in a PhD/MD program or has finished
his studies , so that i can get some advice.
if such a person reads this i would greatly appreciate it
if he can give me some advice.
Or if you know somebody who fits that description kindly
tell me how to contact him/her.
thank you,

prash
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From: bene...@devnull.ping.de (Benedikt Stockebrand)
Subject: Please stop this thread (was Re: I am new !!)
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Please stop this thread. You're wasting lots of other peoples time
and money. Maybe you try soc.penpals and/or misc.test instead? Or
e-mail instead of news postings? Each of your postings out here
annoys about half a million subscribers to n.n.q and wastes roughly
100 MB of other peoples disk space and transmission bandwidth.

So please, keep the Net useful.

Ben

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From: fr...@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Why do the Narns dislike humans?
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In article <1995Jan9.143903@scivax> phil...@stsci.edu (Everyone is entitled to
be stupid, but some people abuse the privilege) writes:
> Why do the Narns dislike Earthers? Or is it just G'kar? It's been
> mentioned that this is the case (here's the relevant quote):
>
> "What were you thinking when you petitioned us?"
> 'We thought your dislike of the Earthers would be enough.'
> "Enough for us. Not for you. We do not casually entangle ourselves in
> the affairs of other species." -- G'Kar and Tharg, "Believers"
>
> The only thing that comes to mind is that we're friendly with the
> Centauri and/or we won't join the Narn in a war of Centauri extermination
> (of course, the same can be said for everyone else). Is it that the Narns
> distrust non-Narns? Any other thoughts?

I've always assumed that Earth was basically a rival ... a new power at about
the same tech level (Narns have better weapons, but Earth has a higher standard
of living and more wealth). The Minbari are "mature" and no longer interested
in the game of empire, and the Vorlons are too powerful and reclusive to be a
threat. Narns will sell to humans, but mainly to destablize EarthGov.

I also suspect that Narns have very fluid concepts of "enemy" and "friend",
based more on danger and advantage than ideology. I've heard there's an old
Arab proverb: "Me against my brother, my brother and me against the tribe, the
tribe and me against the world."

--
Frank Mitchell
email(work): fr...@fnbc.com (NeXTmail) (home): fr...@gagme.wwa.com

The art of programming is the art of organizing complexity.
-- E. W. Dijkstra
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From: r...@crl.com (Robert A. DeLisle)
Newsgroups: rec.games.int-fiction
Subject: Re: [Q] How to obtain Shades of Gray?
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Peter McDermott (pe...@petermc.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <3ehofr$s...@crl4.crl.com>,
: r...@crl.com ( A. DeLisle) wrote:

: (Re Shades of Grey)

: >
: >This is an AGT game for the pc, but Soft Works did offer a mac version.
: >
: >ftp ftp.gmd.de if-archive/games/pc soggy.zip
: >
: >As I recall, this was actually freeware, written by seven anonymous
: >members of a service. It won the annual prize.
: >
: >If you can get the mac compiler, any AGT source files should work.

: Any idea where I'd find either the Mac compiler or the Mac version?

: What is an AGT game? Is AGT some sort of game development system?

AGT is a game generator formerly sold by Soft Works in California.
There was an annual contest for the best game.
They made the IBM version free, but haven't mentioned MAC.
I saw a comment that the MAC version didn't work very well, but
it would be worth trying. Other MAC users will have to help you.
AAD
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From: ruf...@aol.com (RuffNet)
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Subject: Re: Our Drummer Needs Help
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Yea I got carried away. Sorry. I caught you on one of my bad days. Sorry
to make it yours. Good luck with your drummer and with your band.
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From: robe...@hamer.ibd.nrc.ca (Walter Roberson)
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In article <3ese5j$3...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> mor...@sitka.triumf.ca (Morgan Burke) writes:
:I often have to ftp large numbers of files between two machines
:on opposite sides of the continent. They are both SGI systems running
:Irix 5.2. I use "mget" with prompting disabled to retrieve the files,
:but after a while (usually about 15 files or so), the ftp connection
:breaks.

You need the ftp patch for IRIX 5.2. My records seem to indicate that
this is patch SG000041; there may be a newer update to it since then.
Unfortunately, you will have to ask the TAC for a copy of the patch,
as SGI currently feels it is necessary to grill you to prove you are a real
SGI owner and that you really are having the problems you claim :-(

If you have not installed any patches before, you will need patch 34,
which is a bit messy to install. I would also suggest picking up patch 65.
patch 65 is an important security fix; SGI has made it and patch 34 available
in ftp://ftp.sgi.com/pub/security .

Walter Roberson robe...@ibd.nrc.ca
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From: gr...@ins.infonet.net (Jonathan Grobe)
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In article <Pine.A32.3.91c.95011...@homer07.u.washington.edu>, Barbara Kavanaugh <bka...@u.washington.edu> writes:
>I realize I have posted in a completely inappropriate newsgroup. How can
>I cancel this message?
>
You need to look at the documentation for your newsreader. Different
newsreaders have different commands. Type your HELP command looking for
something like CANCEL, write to your technical support people or post in
the local help newsgroup.

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In article <188_941...@cnx.com> mne...@cnx.com (Michael Nelson) writes:

| I receive my newsgroups via Planet Connect and the most
| current listing for newsgroups is from July, I was wondering
| if there was a way to get up-to-date newsgroups lists either
| from a server or if they are posted somewhere.
|
| Thanks in advance and please respond via EMail.

A new set of postings has been released about 30 hours ago on
news.announce.newgroups, including a checkgroups message to update
your systems newsgroups file and Davids annotated lists of world-wide
newsgroups.

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From: KMF...@prodigy.com (Glenn Palmer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Muzzle breaks
Date: 12 Jan 1995 17:13:37 GMT
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>>No need to apologize to me. I KNOW that if it is done RIGHT, they
>>will help to improve the accuracy of most paintguns.
>
>Hmm, a querry then, while I'm thinking of it. The Typhoon I have has
>porting in the barrel, I just thought it makes the gun quiet. Is that
an
>accuracy thing too?

Yes the most noticeable change is to the sound but the venting does
help with shot-to-shot consistancy which certainly does help a bit
to keep your shot pattern tighter. ie : improves accuracy
>
>>Again though, the better tuned and more efficient the gun is, the more

>>subtle any improvements will be.
>
>Hmm... I know that's true, but I like to see concrete proof. And that
>mod wasn't proof fro me. Feh. But, oh well.

What would you call "concrete proof"? Does the fact that I have sold
thousands of muzzle breaks with a money back gaurantee of improved
accuracy and have only gotten back five or six units under that garantee
create any level of proof for you. Not to mention all of the testing
that we
have done on every gun that we could get our hands on so that I could be

comfortable in offering that type of garantee.
-
GLENN PALMER aka Paladin KMF...@prodigy.com
Palmer's Pursuit Shop Airs...@cris.com

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Hello,
Does anyone know of a way I can edit the File Library Rip Screens
inidiviually like in the Textblocks way of editing. Is there a special
way for editing modules or should I be able to edit the Rip Screens
through the Textblocks?

Thanks

Simon.

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From: mho...@rtd.com (Mark J. Howell)
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Apologies, my (&*@#$^%@#$ news reader GPF'd and somehow posted twice in the
process.

Mark J. Howell
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From: ssn...@crl.com (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.multimedia
Subject: Video card recommendations?
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I'm in the market for a new accelerated video card for use with OS/2. I'd
like some recommendations, please.

I'm looking for:
0. Fast, but not neccessarily top-of-the-line.
1. Drivers included with OS/2 (I'm sick of persuing card vendors for drivers).
2. At least 800x600x65536 resolution, which implies 2 megs of memory.
3. VESA support in the BIOS

I assume that the IBM-supplied video drivers support all the current goodies
like DIVE, Palette Management, etc. Is that true?

TIA.

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From: t...@fohnix.metronet.com (Tye McQueen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.unixware
Subject: Re: help with using tty00 needed
Date: 12 Jan 1995 11:24:22 -0600
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mi...@wwa.com (Mike Protofanousis) writes:

) tty00 does not work at any speed. I can connect to the device,
) but no data comes back from the box.
)
) When I installed the OS, I had my mouse on tty00 and it works just
) fine under X. However, I don't plan on running X at all.
) I need to use both serial ports.

Run "mouseadmin" and delete the driver.

) In fact, I would also like to know how to disable X upon startup.

/etc/rc2.d/*xdm is what starts it. I would add the following
line near the top:

[ $# = 1 ] && exit # Don't start xdm automatically

Then if you want to start xdm later you can do:

# sh /etc/rc2.d/*xdm start now

Note that this change will also prevent *xdm from being
run in order to stop xdm when the system is shut down.
However, *xdm is not linked to /etc/init.d/xdm (though it
should be), is not linked anywhere as /etc/rc?.d/K??xdm
(though it might make sense), and if you run it with
"stop" as the first argument it does "/etc/killall -TERM
xdm" which is a nice work of fantasy because "man killall"
shows that "killall" can't do what they are trying to make
it do.

) I don't know anything about port monitor/services etc...

Who does? Just kidding.
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From: ron...@trace.com.tw (Ronald Wiplinger)
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Subject: Re: WARP WITHDRAWEL???
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In <3er221$e...@news.iesd.auc.dk>, ba...@kom.auc.dk (Henrik Balle) writes:
>
>Hey
>I`ve got a problem. I have heard, that IBM are about to withdraw Warp
>because it swaps to much on the hard drive. I have seen some of you guys
>having that problem, so i figured, that it might be true.
>Is this just a rumor (my sourse is supposed to be reliable)?
>Don`t reply to me personaly since others might be interested.
>I`m currently running os2 2.1, and I don`t want to change unless
>it will improve performance.

I don't believe this.

Ronald Wiplinger [Taipei, 24h online]
servers (all trace.com.tw): ftp, gopher, www, telnet, talk, P2P
finger (ron...@trace.com.tw) for more info (address, pgp key, .....)
Tel.: +886 2 609-0652 Fax: +886 2 600-0132

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From: bern...@chaos.ic.ornl.gov (Bruce Bernacki)
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Subject: Re: Interferometer fringe analysis....
Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:14:00 GMT
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Here is another vote for "Optical Shop Testing" by Malacara. The new edition
(1992) is substantially expanded over the 1978 edition, and is worth buying if your
library only has the older edition. There is an entire chapter in the new edition
on interferogram evaluation and wavefront fitting by Malacara and Scott DeVore.

I believe WYKO in Tucson sells static fringe analysis software. It is descended from
a public domain package called FRINGE, that used to available through the Optical
Sciences Center at the U of A. I got a copy a couple of years ago (I was only
interested in the surface fitting routines) and I think Bob Parks is the keeper of
it now. He is part time faculty there still, as far as I know.

Bruce

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From: sha...@plato.ucs.mun.ca (Shannon Patrick Sullivan)
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scott cameron quoth:
> THe guy that posted that he had found Goth Opera in a B&N in Texas was
> probably just Vapor.
> Ah well. Good thing I've already gotten up to State of Change from
> TREKKER.
> But still .... ...

Actually, he may have been telling the truth. We got in "Goth Opera" and
since then SmithBooks hasn't been able to get the rest of the MAs. Go figure.

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From: rat...@ccs.neu.edu (Stainless Steel Rat)
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Subject: Re: STREET FIGHTER 2 ANIME vs. LIVE STREET FIGHTER
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>>>>> "Russell" == Russell Joyner <joy...@psych.upenn.edu> writes:

Russell> Just looking for opinions on this. For those of you who have seen
Russell> the Street Fighter 2 anime and the live Street Fighter movie,
Russell> which one do you think is better? The anime or the live movie?!

Better in what sense? ``Better'' is a relative term: which is better, a
Fiero 2M4 or a school bus?

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From: djam...@students.wisc.edu (Shadow Weaver)
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In article <3es2kv$7...@darwin.nbnet.nb.ca> "Rush / BIM <Craig Galbraith>" <j5...@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> writes:

>Does anybody know an e-mail address for gravis to which I could address
>questions about the MIDI connector box?

te...@gravis.com

I sent them a message about 3 days ago, no response yet, so im wondering how
often they read their email on that account. Maybe they just don't like me.

:: djam...@students.wisc.edu ..I dreamt of a
:::::: ::: ::: ship to bring
:::::: :: :: her..
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From: Ne...@ix.netcom.com (Neal Katz)
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Subject: Atech product query -- read if you're looking for AllType
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In <3f2b6h$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> imj...@aol.com (IMJerry) writes:

>Ares, Alltype both out of business? Rule of thunb #3325: Don't waste
time
>writing font software. You'll not make it in the market.

Geez... seems that way.

OK.... Anyone reading this familiar with Atech's "AllFonts For Business"
and/or "AllFonts For Home"?

Did these packages contain AllType?

Answer fast... if they did contain AllType, time may be a'wastin'.

Neal
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From: d-a...@uiuc.edu (Nick Arend)
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Anyone know of a good way in Microsoft Mail (for WFW) to add an SMTP address to a Personal Group without
having the address (or associated alias) show up in one's Personal Address List?. I'm creating a group with a
lot of entries and would rather not have the entries get in the way of addressing the people I usually send mail to.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Nick

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From: wbir...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (William Birkmaier)
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Subject: Re: NeXT Step for intel at student prices
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William Birkmaier (wbir...@lynx.dac.neu.edu) wrote:

Apparently the first post din't go through. What I wanted to ask is if
there is some student discount for NeXT Step for Intel Processorcs ~200
bux or so.

Thanx

Will
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From: ddr...@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (David Draper)
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In article <1995Jan08.0...@kuentos.guam.net> rad...@kuentos.guam.net (Ralph T. Adamson III) writes:
>
>Fred Hardy (fc...@access4.digex.net) wrote:
>: Do not be so sure the beer is fine. If you simply let the yeast pouch
>: swell and innoculated your wort with the contents you grossly
>: underpitched your brew. This has a very real potential to permit other,
>: less desireable yeasts and harmful bacteria to gain a foothold and ruin
>: your efforts.
>
>Puppy Slop..... I have been using these liquid yeasts for over a year
>now, without problems! The company whose kits I've been using has been
>selling these kits for 15 years and has maintained the same instructions.
>I have experienced slow starts, but never a contamination. If you

Ralph, Fred's admonition is not Puppy Slop. Read what he said: "...you
grossly underpitched your brew. This has a very real *potential* to..." All
the brewing science showing what are the ideal yeast-cell counts per unit
volume is well-known, well-founded, and highly reproducible. A
five-gallon or 22-24 litre brew pitched with only the yeast that grows in
a puffed up Wyeast pack, for example is underpitched--that is a fact. That
you have been *lucky* so far is good testament to your care in sanitation,
aeration, etc., but also that you have been *lucky*. Sure, there
won't *always* be a contamination if the pitch rate is low, but the
*chances* of one are WAY higher in underpitched wort. Using a starter
takes so little extra effort that to advise beginners that they are a
waste of time or too much work is really not a good idea. Finally, there
are many here who have been using these things for a lot longer than a
little over a year, and the overwhelming weight of experience backs up the
predictions from the science.

I'm not trying to pick on anyone personally here, please don't take this
the wrong way. I just think this is an important issue.

Cheers, Dave in Sydney

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From: lol...@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen)
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D P Marshall (D.P.Ma...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
: SimCity 2000 is apparently very slow even on the fastest Amiga. If memory
: serves, it was ported from the Mac (in C I think) by John Jones Steele,
: even recreating the Mac`s UI. This really isn`t good enough.

This is beacuse of the large chipmem-bandwidth required by
the DBLntsc/DBLpal gfx-modes and isn't a CPU concern.
Highres, noninterlaced 8-bit AGA-gfx is always going to be
very slow compared to it's PC or Mac counterparts.
And yes, this port is probably not the most "Amiga-friendly" either.

Cheers...

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From: s110...@techst02.technion.ac.il (Kazachin Arie)
Subject: SMP version of WARP: when?!
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:47:52 GMT
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Does enybody KNOWS if the SMP version of WARP is on the shelves
already? I called the IBM sales/tech. support in Israel and was
told that only the beta version is avaliable now, but I prefer to
hear another oppinion(s). I'm planning to buy a double P-90
mainboard and I want to know, how soon will the WARP support
multiple CPUs. BTW, I remember reading many discussions about
SMP version of WARP handling interrupts on CPU0 only vs. handling
interrupts on any CPU. Does anybody KNOWS for shure if the WARP's
multi-processing is really SYMMETRICAL?

Kazachin Arie.
s110...@t2.technion.ac.il

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Story about a nanny not doing chores deleted...

I would be very careful about accepting your nanny's excuses. She
is being "passive aggressive", in that she is showing her dislike
for housework by simply not doing it. You may not care *so* much about
the housework, but this behavior may spill over into other areas that
you *do* care about, such as care of your baby. If you were
explicit about the chores before you hired her, you should stick
to your guns. You should tell her again, clearly, exactly what you
want done and expect her to do it. If she still stops after one
or two nudges, I would fire her and get a new nanny.

This may sound harsh, but your post reminded me of exactly what I went
through with a nanny of ours (who no longer works for us). I didn't
care so much about the housework, but I *did* care when I found out she
hadn't given the baby his (prescription) medicine because it was
too much trouble.

--Stanzi Royden
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From: rcod...@cals1.belvoir.army.mil (Bob Coderre)
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I just performed maintenance on a Seagate 9GB drive to replace a faulty
cooling fan. When I reconnected the drive to my SGI (Indigo2Extreme,
IRIX 5.2), I get a SCSI timeout error on boot. The drive is not
recognized on dks1d4s0. So I opened it up, checked all the cables, set the
id to 3 (for the hell of it) and voila, it worked. I put it all back
together, rebooted, and it doesn't work. I can't get the drive
recogmized on any id no! Alone, in a chain, nothing. I'm rather
confused. Hopefully, I'm missing something silly here, so I won't feel
too bad if I get flamed (This is not a carte blanche opportunity here
though!! ;-) )

Email or newsgroup is OK. Thanks in advance...

**Bob**

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From: e...@elephant.dev.prodigy.com (Ed Ravin)
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In article <3f1s0q$12...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>,
Yours Truly <e...@elephant.dev.prodigy.com> wrote:
>
>Prodigy (as of 1/95)
> doesn't honor crossposted articles -- followups are in the group
>where the user found the article
> doesn't insert References: line on followups
> does not let the user edit any headers
> (we will be fixing 1 & 2 soon, not sure about #3)

Oh yes, and we also don't have a cancel capability yet. That's on the fix
list too...
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From: Christopher Hudnall <71154...@CompuServe.COM>
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Subject: Cheap Sun peripherals
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Hi, all. I am looking at buying a Sparc-5 clone for home use, and
while the price of just the box w/ CPU is attractive, The cost of
all the add-ons needed to make it a minimally functional system
is exhorbitant. (For me, anyway.) So, I am interested in hearing
from anyone who has found significanlty lower-cost alternatives
to standard Sun components. In particular, I would like to
acquire:

o Keyboard/mouse (type 5 preferable)

o CDROM (need to at least be able to boot from it)

o Framebuffer (Color, prefer CG6, but can make do with a CG3)

o Monitor (Should support a wide range of color & resolution)

o Disk (500MB - 1GB)

o Floppy drive.

In most cases, I am willing to sacrifice some quality/performance
for a significant reduction in price.

Please reply to me. I will summarize.

--
Christopher Hudnall +hud...@csi.compuserve.com

"Why did CNN cancel that neat Desert Storm show?"
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From: Keith Pickup <KPI...@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
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Subject: Re: *Help* A read only text box!
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On 2 Jan 1995 08:24:10 GMT Lawrence King Wai Ng <s92...@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU>
wrote:
>> Hi, does anyone know how to create a read only text box with VB standard?
>> I want to load some text from a text file into a text box which allows the
>> user to scroll the text, but not able to edit it!
>
Just send it a EM_SETREADONLY message with a True in wParam and a Zero value
in lParam.

EM_SETREADONLY = WM_USER+31.

Regards
Keith Pickup
SOFTERM (Australia)

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From: tr...@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon)
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Subject: Re: Which minivan to buy?
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Lloyd R. Parker (lpa...@curly.cc.emory.edu) wrote:
: Carl Heinzl (c...@zurich.ai.mit.edu) wrote:

[some deleted]

: : Why is it that virutally all reports on these vehicles show that the
: : Grand Caravan (i.e. the longer version) have consistently less
: : reliability than the "standard" Caravan? What problems are encountered
: : in the "Grand" version?

: They're made in different plants -- Grands in St. Louis, regular in
: Windsor, Ontario. Why the plants produce different quality vehicles, I
: don't know.

My mother is one her second Chrsler minivan. This second one is a Grand
Caravan about 3 years old now. She says she wants to get rid of it
because of all the trouble it has been. The latest episode has the
steering intermittenly locking up and the dealer can't find out what is
wrong. Hardly a safe situation. The first van did not cause near the
grief and she wishes she had kept it.

: : > If I were to give a second choice, it would be the Winstar. The Winstar

: : I believe it's called the Windstar, not Winstar.

: : >is the first minivan to really pose a decent threat to the Caravan in terms
: : >of sales. Consumers are not dumb; there's a reason the Chrysler minis
: : >outsell the competition, and there's a reason the Winstar poses a
: : >challenge. (The Quest (and it's twin Mercury Villiager) are not viewed as
: : >a serious threat by the Dodge people.)

Maybe not, but I see LOTS of them around here. I really like mine, too. :)
(the Quest and Villager)

[leasing discourse deleted]

: CR also said it was a "tossup" between the Windstar and Voyager. Given
: that Ford has had over 10 years to learn how to build a minivan, and that
: everybody touted the Windstar as the minivan that would de-throne
: Chrysler, somehow producing a minivan that's only as good as the current
: Chrysler design doesn't seem so hot. Especially when Chrysler is coming
: out with an all-new design in a few months!

: : -Carl-

: It sounds like you've got a preconceived bias against Chrysler. Too bad.

I don't. I'd really like an Intrepid about now, and the new van does
look nice. I would have really considered it if I had not already bought
a Villager (which beats the Windstar in my book). The current Chrysler
vans ride too much like fishing trawlers.

Trey
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From: spel...@roch0.eznet.net (Scott Pellegrino)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Empire Strikes Back Glasses.
Date: 11 Jan 1995 17:02:40 -0500
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I have a whole set + of these glasses and was wondering how much their
book value is. Does some internaught out there have a price list on
stange SF collectables???

thanks ... d:)

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From: mewi...@msu.edu (Margaret Wilson)
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Subject: Re: Use of QUICKEN
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In article <3f1k6j$5...@fozzy.aud.alcatel.com>, srma...@aud.alcatel.com says...
>
>I am using QUICKEN software to keep track of my 401K account that I have
>with my company. Does anyone know how to enter the company matching
>contribution? Every two weeks I contribute certain amount which I
>register as XIN into the 401K account from my checking account and
>I BUY shares from the XIN depending on that day's price. But I don't
>know how to account for the companies matching contribution which is
>dollar for dollar. Any ideas will be welcome.

I have a 403b account to which I make monthly contributions. I handle
my own contribution as a split in my salary deposit transaction. For my
employer's contribution, I set up a miscellaneous income transaction in my
403b account, and I created a new category specifically for this purpose.
I end up with two deposits (my transfer from my paycheck, and a
miscellaneous income from my employer) in my 403b account. I then use the
total dollar amount to make the "buys" for my selected mutual funds. Although
I keep track of how much each of us deposits separately, I *do not* keep track
of the employee and employer fund allocation.

Using this method, my taxable income is reduced by my 403b contribution,
and the employer contribution is totalled but not used for tax purposes.
Works for me....

-----
Margaret Wilson, Systems Analyst mewi...@msu.edu
Michigan State University Computer Lab -- Network Services
Room 305 Computer Center, East Lansing, MI 48824-1042

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From: jdr...@teleport.com (J.D. Roth)
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Subject: Another EB/Eurorails question
Date: 2 Jan 1995 07:59:09 GMT
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First, I'd like to thank everyone who has responded to my previous
questions regarding Mayfair's "crayon games." Your help is much
appreciated.

Second, I have another question. From answers to a previous question,
reading the rules, and my own deduction I have interepreted that all rail
must be built from either a major city or your existing rail lines. This
being so, why would a person ever build TO a major city, incurring the 5
million monetary unit cost? The ONLY way I can see a person doing this is
if they needed to build track connecting to more than two major cities in
a turn (you can only build FROM two per turn). Am I missing something? Is
the 5 million monetary unit cost there for silly people who prefer to
build to the major cities rather than away?

Any help would be appreciated...

Also: do any of you play with the "circus option" for Eurorails? Does it
add to the game? I'm considering introducing it. Currently, the only
optional rule we play by is spending a movement point to load/unload a
load...

Thanks...

--j.d.

--
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Kris Gates via she is not amusing herself with me more than
jdr...@teleport.com I am with her?" -- Montaigne 1533-1592
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From: MJN...@prodigy.com (Michael Hohl)
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Subject: MGB-1000 Blow-out price !
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MGB-1000-mh-mt-hl-6ft, usually for growing purposes. Wide even
light distribution, high efficiency, easy installation, UL listed for wet
locations, cool operation, light weight, and UL and IBEW labeled.

These units were purchased for a previous job which ended up being
canceled. We were unable to return them to the factory, so we are
offering them at a very low price.

Contact Dan Brown, at City Lighting Products, St.Louis Mo. 1-800-
888-2572
also 314-534-1090, fax 314-534-1314.

City Lighting Products is the largest Wholesale lighting distributor of
Osram Sylvania lighting in the Mid-West, with locations in St.Louis,
Kansas City, and Pittsburgh. We also carry a number of ballast lines as
well as various fixture lines.

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From: labo...@csc.albany.edu (S. LaBonne)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Re: "The Bell Curve" Reviews
Date: 11 Jan 1995 15:25:24 GMT
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In article <3evat7$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
Tony Tosca <tony...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Ever heard of "education", Tony? That's an environmental intervention
>>directly related to cognitive functioning.
>
>Steve,
>
>Your above response is framed merely to irritate, not to discuss. I asked
>what I thought to be a pertinent and civil question. Please don't start
>another flame war. I'd like to talk with you, and learn from you wherever
>you possess knowledge I do not. I prefer not to argue. Thanks.

I'm sorry; it's true that discussions surrounding TBC tend to make me
very irritable. It's such a trashy book, recycling old garbage that's
been around for decades; and its fans are so annoying when they boast
about how brave they are to support its supposedly risque conclusions,
and have an especially annoying tendency to accuse anyone who criticizes
TBC's bad science and trashy pseudo-scholarship of not having read the book!
I'm afraid you got the spillover from my aggravation.

My point, however, is a serious one. The US is a country where many schools
in economically depressed areas are literally falling down; when people
like Murray try to use pseudscience (which Murray demonstrably doesn't
even understand!) to claim that there is no point in doing anything about
such scandals, yes, that makes me very angry. Shouldn't it?

--
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"It can never be satisfied, the mind, never." - Wallace Stevens
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From: Roy_La...@mindlink.bc.ca (Roy Langston)
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Subject: "The Bell Curve" Reviews
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S. LaBonne (labo...@csc.albany.edu) writes:
>
> I am reposting the brief article below from sci.psychology for the
> benefit of anyone who is still confused about the irrelevance of
> heritability to the possibility of raising IQ's.
>
> In article <D22yF...@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu>,
> Frank Fujita <ffu...@sun1.sun1.iusb.indiana.edu> wrote:
> >Rolf Marvin Be Lindgren (ro...@ulrik.uio.no) wrote:
> >: [Warren Sarle]
> >: | On page 109, H&M say, "... even a heritability of .6 leaves room for
> >: | considerable change if the changes in environment are commensurably
> >: | large."
> >: do H&M mean group level or individual level?
> >
> >Heritability can only be used to talk about population outcomes, and it
> >does not address mean levels of anything. Thus, we could find out that
> >vitamin X raises IQ by 50 points, and after everybody's IQ is higher,
> >the heritability coefficient could still be .6
> >
> >Frank Fujita

This is true as far as it goes, and is potentially illuminating, but it is
not the whole story.

If Vitamin X has that powerful an effect on IQ, it implies that Vitamin X
consumption is now _uniformly_ low (if measured IQ heritability is high,
the IQ variance due to varying Vitamin X consumption is likely to be low).
After "everybody's IQ is higher," Vitamin X consumption will be uniformly
high, while the amount of IQ _variance_ due to varying Vitamin X
consumption will still be low, and heritability therefore just as high as
before, ceteris paribus.

_But_, unless _everyone's_ Vitamin X consumption can be raised
simultaneously by the same amount, there will be a time in between when the
variance in IQ due to varying consumption will be high, and the
heritability of IQ will then be (temporarily) lower. Current high IQ
heritability implies it is unlikely there is currently a hidden, Vitamin
X-like variable that is making a significant part of the population obtain
higher IQ scores than the Vitamin X-deprived remainder.

>
> In article <62327-7...@mindlink.bc.ca>,
> Roy Langston <Roy_La...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:
>
> >> Biology is not destiny.
> >
> >
> >No? What if the deficiency was in the somatotropin receptors, a
> condition
> >which I believe is still untreatable? And do you think any
> administration
> >of somatotropin or any other environmental intervention could make, say,
> a
> >_turtle_ as tall as an average person? Can you name any simple (or
>
> Notice that you have implicitly conceded the correctness of my example.

Your example was factual. It just didn't do the rhetorical work you wanted
it to do.

>
> Regardless of how many examples you can think of that _don't_ work like
> this, the existence of even _one_ that does invalidates your claim
> that heritabilty is a _measure_ of _how_ environmentally manipulable
> a trait is. (Or are you as weak in logic as you are in genetics?)

Of course heritability is not a _direct_, _precise_ measure of how much a
trait can respond to environmental changes. Statistics give only a basis
for reasoning about the probability of such relationships. High
heritability only implies that a trait is, ceteris paribus, less
environmentally manipulable than it would be if the heritability were
lower. This is a claim that cannot be invalidated even by several
counter-examples, as long as many more examples can be given to support it.
(There are millions of known life forms: what proportion of their
measurable traits are genetically determined and what proportion
environmentally? Maybe 1000 to 1? For the overwhelming majority,
virtually _all_ that is known about them is genetically determined -- e.g.,
the traits used for taxonomical classification).

And speaking of weakness in logic, you seem to be trumpeting a rather
bizarre non sequitur: "One can't _prove_ low meliorability of a
characteristic based on high heritability, therefore that _proves_ there is
_no_ relationship _whatever_ between high heritability and low
meliorability." I trust you are much more circumspect when the subject is
genetics.

>
> The point is this: talk about heritability by itself tells us _nothing_
> about whether the trait in question is more like a somatotropin
> deficiency
> or more like a defective somatotropin receptor- as I have already said,
> that can _only_ be determined by empirical research.

This is true, but it, also, is not the whole truth. In terms of height
outcomes, the difference between these two genetic defects is that one is
currently correctable and the other is not -- i.e., the difference is in
the power of current corrective technology, not in the nature of the defect
per se. I am perfectly happy to stipulate that at some future time low IQ,
like somatotropin deficiency, may be treatable by appropriate
pharmacological intervention. But that time is not yet. Furthermore,
given high measured heritability, the burden of proof is on the
interventionist to demonstrate the effectiveness (and cost-effectiveness)
of proposed environmental interventions. I'm waiting.

>
> _You_ may be
> impressed by the empirical evidence presented in TBC, but many other
> people aren't.

Indeed. Somebody could probably get a nice PhD thesis out of examining the
inverse relationship between expertise in statistics, psychometrics or
factor analysis and antagonism toward TBC.

>
> In a country in which many inner-city schools are
> literally falling down, a claim that everything that can be done
> via education _has_ been done deserves to be met, at the least,
> with skepticism.

Naturally, neither I nor TBC ever made anything remotely resembling such a
claim. Nevertheless, you are on thin ice here. You appear to be claiming
that varying educational experience accounts for a large fraction of the
variance in IQ. High heritability definitely makes this _less_likely_ than
if heritability were low. In other words, if genes account for a lot of
the IQ variance (high heritability) and education accounts for a lot of the
variance (your hypothesis), that doesn't leave a lot of variance for all
the other variables to account for: ceteris paribus, you have to be
claiming that a _lot_ of other variables are very unimportant. That's just
not very likely.

If I remember correctly (I don't have the book with me at the moment),
Herrnstein and Murray estimated that adoption at birth from a 10th
percentile family environment into a 90th percentile family environment
would produce an average IQ gain of about 24 points. I believe the
difference in education was thought to account for about half of the gain.
Obviously, H&M realize environment is important in determining IQ. The
problem is the cost of doing anything effective, on a large scale, to
improve it. One thing is certain: it would be a lot cheaper to stop paying
10th percentile families for having children than it would be to arrange
for adoption of all the extra kids they have (in response to the current
incentives) into 90th percentile families.

>
> >Is that so? Then, for the record, you are stating that my claim -- that
> >the genetic component of a turtle's height limits the possibility of
> >changing its height by environmental intervention -- is bogus.
> >Interesting. Tell me: do you ever _read_ what you post before vomitting
> it
> >forth upon an unsuspecting Net?
>
> See above; after you have made such an elementary logical blunder, your
> continued blustering only serves to make you look more foolish.

You made a dogmatic, sweeping, unsupported generalization. I supplied a
reductio ad absurdum. And you think _I_ looked foolish?

>
> Once again: _some_ traits with high heritability are readily
> ameliorable, some are not, and heritability by itself _cannot_
> tell you which is which.

Of course not. High heritability only tells you that the trait is less
_likely_ to be easily meliorable than if the heritability were low.

>
> In article <62291-7...@mindlink.bc.ca>,
> Roy Langston <Roy_La...@mindlink.bc.ca> wrote:
> >
> >OK. If you insist, we'll talk about heritability. The higher the
> measured
> >heritability of a characteristic in a given population, the less that
> >characteristic can be changed by manipulating the non-genetic variables.
>
> Wrong. Period.

You're right. I should have said "ceteris paribus." In particular, if the
_total_ variances are not the same, this result is not guaranteed because
the proportions of the variances won't be equivalent.

Imagine two populations: one a group of clones, all raised in different
environments, the other a group of unrelated individuals all raised and
educated together in one kibbutz. By chance, the IQ variances of the two
groups are the same. By definition, the clone group has an IQ heritability
of 0.0, while the kibbutz group will likely show some positive heritability
of, say, 0.5.

Now, one by one, control for all the non-genetic variables in both data
sets. Most variables will likely be irrelevant to IQ, but controlling for
the ones that are contributing _most_ to the total IQ variance in each
group (assuming they are mostly the same ones!) must, on average, change
the mean IQ about _half_ as much in the kibbutz group as in the clone
group. This appears to be mathematically inevitable.

The same reasoning applies to other populations: ceteris paribus, where
heritability of a characteristic is high, you can't get proportionally as
much effect on that characteristic by manipulating the non-genetic
variables as you can where heritability is low.

Now, do you think this admittedly less general statement is still wrong?
If so, I'd like to know _specifically_ where you think my reasoning is
faulty.

-- Roy Langston

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From: kor...@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Kate Orman)
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The New and Missing Adventures: how to have your submission
rejected

This FAQ is intended for people who are considering sending a
New or Missing Adventures submission in to Virgin Publishing -
especially people who haven't submitted anything to a publisher
before.

Now, Virgin have zillions of NAs and MAs sent to them every day
by hopeful writers, many of whom have never put pen to paper
before. The sheer volume of submission means that YOU WILL
PROBABLY BE REJECTED. With so many new writers to pick and
choose from, and so many established authors on thier books, Virgin
can safely reject just about anything that comes their way.

There are many things that can cause your manuscript to be
rejected. Many writers, especially newbies, *insist* on making
one of the following blunders, no matter what advice they have
received - from another writer, from Virgin, it doesn't seem to
matter!

So here's a list of ways to *make sure* your New or Missing
Adventure is rejected! :-)

---- GENERAL

1. Whatever you do, *don't* send a large envelope plus return
postage (or IRCs) to Virgin to get the latest writers' guidelines.
If you don't know what's happening with the series, you can be
sure of a rejection slip. (Virgin's address is inside every New and
Missing Adventure.)

2. Don't read any of the New or Missing Adventures. That way you
can come up with terrific continuity errors, or better still,
repeat an idea that's already been published!

3. If you succeed in getting a rejection slip, immediately write
back and argue with the editor over why your book *should* have
been accepted. That'll make you look as unprofessional as
possible!

---- CONTENT AND PRESENTATION

1. Include the Valeyard. (Stories involving the Valeyard are
*automatically* rejected.)

2. Include the Daleks.

3. Include any other monster from the TV series. Showing a lack
of originality, plus possibly creating an expensive copyright
problem, is a great way to get that rejection slip! (There have
been several NAs recently with old monsters - but all of them
were written by well-established authors.)

4. Include so many spelling, grammatical or punctuation errors
that Virgin would have to pay to have the manuscript edited and
re-typed. (Remember, the manuscript you send in, if accepted, is
marked up and sent directly to the printers for typesetting.)

5. Write it by hand, on both sides of the paper, with no margins -
or otherwise ignore the instructions in the writers' guidelines.
Make sure you don't include page numbers or put your name on any
of the pages - that way your manuscript could actually be lost
altogether!

-----

Those are just a few ways to guarantee a rejection slip. But even
if you avoid all those pitfalls, it's still *very* likely that your
manuscript will be rejected. (Lots of mine have been.)

Rejection slips are normal and healthy. I hear that Asimov was
still getting them up until the time of his death. If you're a
writer, a rejection slip may bruise you, anger you, and cast you in
the pit of despair - but it won't *stop* you. Take a deep breath,
come up with another idea, and try again.

Good luck!

--
Kate Orman
"You are endlessly agitating, unceasingly mischievous. Will you never
stop?" - Light, in Marc Platt's "Ghost Light", 1989
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From: uvin...@mcl.ucsb.edu (COLIN M VINCENT)
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Does anybody have the configuration and/or script for:
a Macintosh using InterSLIP dialing into TIA on a shell account?

I have successfully run tia and have been able to get InterSLIP to "connect". Bu
t when I try to run MacWeb it tells me it can't locate the address that it starts
with. I haven't used a script and I think that's the problem because the script
is what tells the shell to run tia.

lost and confused
Colin Vincent

uvin...@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu

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From: ara...@max.tiac.net (Eric Aranow)
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If you, or anyone you know, lives near the Boston area and is a talented
whistler, I am looking for whistlers for a unique group.

The whistlers should:

1) have a wide frequency range (3 octaves or more)

2) have a wide range of musical taste (classical, jazz, rock, blues, etc.)

3) have a wide dynamic range

4) be able to hold a tune in 5-part harmony

5) be able to continue whistling (without smiling) with a crowd watching you

If you have talent at arrangement as well, that's even better!

Please respond to me directly by e-mail. I'm looking forward to hearing
from you.

Eric Aranow

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jsuth...@BIX.com (Jeff Sutherland) writes:

[ ...you must snip it... ]

>I think its fair to say that PARC set up this technology so that it was
>ready for commercialization.

yes, & the suits @ xerox dropped the ball *bigtime* on what parc had set
up for them. why am i not surprised.

>Apple grabbed the mouse and GUI.

apple also bought into oop (at least originally), they just didn't buy
into smalltalk. remember, the lisa's os was written mostly in object
pascal. too bad the 68k just wasn't up to the task of executing the code
in anything resembling realtime. :-/

gears,
ye wilde ryder
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From: disc...@med.uni-muenchen.de (Anton Dischner)
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Subject: Re: Opinion on HP vs. IBM OS's
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We are running Oracle for 3 years now on IBM RS6000.

We did iozone benchmarks on several servers.

IBM did an average of 2MB/sec.
SGI was also ca 2MB/sec.

The others (Siemens RM600, DEC) had ca 1MB/sec.

HP was the worst competitor with not being able to -write- faster than 0.5
MB/sec !!?

(If you have a iozone auto benchmark for your HP please post)

Best regards,

Toni

In article <3eh9d1$e...@netserv.unmc.edu>, skoc...@unmc.edu (Sharon
Kochanowicz) wrote:

> Any opinion on what is better with Oracle (in general) Using HP
> as a hardware/OS platform or AIX RS6000 as a hardware/OS
> platform?

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From: malh...@eos.ap.org (Rajesh N. Malhotra)
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Folks,

We have an application using Informix Online 5.01.UD3 running fine
on AIX 3.2.5. When we upgraded AIX to 4.1, the application crashes in mallocs
done by the online engine. The crashes take place when we try to allocate
a cursor or a descriptor.

Does Aix 4.1 have a new malloc? mallocs dine by our application seem
to work fine. Do we need to upgrade our Online 5.01 engine for AIX 4.1?

Any and all responses on this matter appreciated.

Thanx,

Raj.

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In article <3f3le9$q...@maple.enet.net> lega...@enet.net (Derek Shenk) writes:

>In article <3f00ir$e...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, john...@ix.netcom.com (John
>Clifford) says:

>!>Think about it -- many Americans are not going to obey a law that orders them
>to
>!>hand over their firearms or face imprisonment. What are you going to do to
>!>these otherwise law-abiding people?

> Tax bullets at the rate of $5 per bullet. Outlaw the manufacture
>of bullents. Tax gun ownership. Want more?

Which part of "outlaw" doesn't have to do with criminal law?

More importantly, without recourse to criminal penalties, how do you
compell payment of this tax?

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From: KMF...@prodigy.com (Glenn Palmer)
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>"THE REGULATOR"
>Adjustable for both high and medium pressure.
>Made of polished brass.
>Fully tested to 6000 lbs.
>Can be mounted on bottle or on gun.
>
>Includes:
>low pressure gauge 0-1200 psi
>high pressure gauge 0-4000 psi

Well what do you know. Somebody else has finally
understood the benefits of built-in pressure relief
valves. This is certainly a good thing to see.

-
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Palmer's Pursuit Shop Airs...@cris.com

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In article <dcrowson.7...@amoco.com> dcro...@amoco.com (Dave Crowson) writes:

>>>Well, if my parents owned a coupla mountains, I didn't have to work, just ski
>>>all day, not worry about where the next paycheck was coming from then I'm sure
>>>I could become a bloody good skier too.
>>

>>But not THAT good not EVEN close.

>Ahh ,but _if_ I was , I wouldn't be wasting my time doing the slalom, I'd be
>in the downhill with the proper skiers ;-)

Ah, but what would your mother say?? :-}

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kcar...@zoo.toronto.edu (Kieran A. Carroll) wrote:

> In talking here about the spaceflight movement in the 1930's
> you seem to imply that von Braun's group was all there was to it.

No, this is obviously not the case.

> American Rocket Society and the British Interplanetary Society were
> contemporaneous with von Braun's early rocketry work.

But the German community was at least a decade ahead of those in other
countries, given Oberth's contribution. And Oberth sure looks like a
Nazi to me.

> If there's any "original soil" that you can trace the roots of the
> spaceflight movement back to, it seems clearly to be the writings
> of Tsiolkovsky in Russia.

But Tsiolkovsky was essentially unknown, even in Russia, until the
late 1920s, when the Russian spaceflight movement, responding to the
German movement, sought a national champion with credentials to rival
those of Oberth.

> .....the idea of the idea of spaceflight being born out of
> Nazi-ism.

No, this was not my assertion. Rather I was attempting to establish
that spaceflight had a cultural significance within the context of
National Socialism, and that it was not simply a meaningly value-free
technological artifact that happened to wake up one day and find itself
surrounded by a bunch of Nazis.

I am also suggesting that this "German Ideology" of spaceflight
exercised a continuing influence on the course of American spaceflight
in the 1950s. Von Braun's space station, after all, was to be a weapons
platform, just as had been proposed decades earlier by Oberth.

> One of the main things that set the German group apart was that
> they received official sanction (and funding) earlier than other

Actually, this is _far_ from the main thing that set them apart, at
least prior to around 1940. What _did_ set them apart were a radically
different and distinctive set of images of the meaning and future
directions of astronautics. Set aside for a moment the question of
engineering, and consider the _why_ of spaceflight. Oberth didn't have
much use for planetary exploration, and was mainly interested in LEO,
primarily for commercial and military applications.The German
movement was facinated with crackpot metaphysical theories in a way
that the other communities never were. The Brits, particularly Clarke,
took the opposite view, and were _quite_ interested in deep space, and
saw spaceflight as a vehicle for conversion of military industry.
Tsiolkovsky had little use for gravity wells in general (the true
meaning of his "remain in the cradle" remark -- he was headed for the
asteroids), and saw spaceflight as a vehicle for international
cooperation.

And the American "movement" was essentially still-born, since Goddard
was obsessed with the fear that someone would steal his patents, and
deprived the rest of the community of leadership. Once the American
Interplanetary Society got cranked up, it generally echoed the BIS
line on spaceflight as an alternative to warfare. Of all the
spaceflight movements, the American was the least explicit or coherent
about the rationale and future course of spaceflight, and combined the
commercialism of Oberth with the international cooperation of the BIS.

So all these debates we are having about the central purpose of
spacefight (commercial vs international) have been around for most of
the century.

> Anyway, while *you* may see some resonance between the ideologies of
> Nazis and of the spaceflight pioneers, I don't beleive that the
> historical facts support the idea that the one led to the other.

I am not arguing that _the_ spaceflight pioneers were Nazis, only that
one of the most influential (Oberth) was, and that von Braun's
association with National Socialism was not merely a temporary
marriage of convenience, but that he continued to view spaceflight in
the 1950s from the perspective of a German Ideology that had substantial
roots in and resonance with National Socialism.

> If there was such a deep resonance, then why did rocketry flourish
> in America (under Goddard, and the JPL team), and England (under the
> BIS enthusiasts, albeit without governemnt support), to almost the
> same extent as in Germany (in the pre-Dornberger days)?

Well, it didn't. The Germans were more than a decade ahead of the UK and
USA, starting in the early 1920s versus mid-1930s, and almost a decade
ahead of the Russians (who started in the late 1920s).

> ................................ Unless you
> want to make the argument that America and Germany were also hotbeds of
> Nazi-style politics and philosophy---which would weaken considerably your
> main argument, I think.

There is certainly a strong Social Darwinist strain in the American
astronautics community, from Percival Lowell to Robert Heinlein, which
has strong resonance with facist philosophy.

> > ... In part, this
> >is because there is simply no contemporaneous literature addressing
> >spaceflight from a Nazi perspective. Thus I have had to resort to
> >Spinrad as a substitute. I find it quite interesting that Spinrad
> >chose to culminate The Iron Dream with spaceflight, suggesting that
> >from his perspective there was a close connection...
> also find that
>
> There migth be a simpler explanation for this. Spinrad is a science
> fiction writer,

I don't wish to belabor this point, or to try to hang _too_ much on
Spinrad.

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Hi, I'm testing some things in both ESL and Arity prolog. I noticed
that ESL doesnt handle atom conversion (using name) in quite the
same way. I seem to recall that the resource guide mentioned a work
around for this. I misplaced the guide. Can someone have a look for
me (I also couldn't find the guide in the ftp site mentioned in faq).

Thanks,
RdR
PS. Is there some documentation on supported preds in ESL. Another
one that I'm looking for is the equivalent of keyb_peek.

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Subject: Word 6
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Could someone direct me to the place on the net where there are
suggestions for things to do to maximize the speed of the
very slow Microsoft Word 6?
NLevine
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Subject: ASUSTEK Board with Warp ?
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Do you know about any with an ASUSTEK Board and Warp?
It has AWARD Bios, 5 ISA Slots and 2 VLB Slots.
IT's for DX2-66
I want to buy it, but I don't konw, if it's a good one.

Thanks

Rainer
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From: bbbo...@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
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Subject: Re: USA Today/CNN Poll (1/8/95)
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In article <ksinghal.7...@mni.uwo.ca>, ksin...@mni.uwo.ca (Dr. S.K. Singhal Rm5004) writes:
> In article <keith...@sma.sca.ncsu.edu> ke...@sma.sca.ncsu.edu (Keith Jordan) writes:
>>From: ke...@sma.sca.ncsu.edu (Keith Jordan)
>>Subject: Re: USA Today/CNN Poll (1/8/95)
>>Date: 9 Jan 1995 06:55:57 GMT
>
>>In article <3eqf3d$n...@bmerha64.bnr.ca> markham@b4pphf7 (Andrew Markham)
>>writes:
>
>>> Team Pts Pvs
>>> ------------- --- ---
>>> 2. North Carolina (3) (10-1) 774 1
>
>> This is incredible. I mean, they lost by ten to a team that received
>>zero votes in this same poll.
>
>> I can't see how they are in the top five after that loss. It might make
>>sense if N.C. State were ranked #23 or something ...
>
>> Congratulations, though. If you guys stayed #2 after that game, you've
>>got a wonderful shot at a regional #1 seed even with a few more upsets.
>
>
>>Keith
>>Raleigh, NC
>
> I agree completely! UCLA fell 4 places to No.6 in losing by 10 to Oregon (
> although the game was much closer than the score and wasn't decided until
> the last minute because of a double technical on Harrick) and the game
> before UCLA beat NC State by 8! This poll makes no sense!! Arkansas also
> only fell 1 position even though they lost this week. Can someone explain
> to me how UCLA is now 2 spots behind Arkansas and 4 spots behind UNC when
> all three teams lost this week and coming into the week, they were ranked
> ahead of Arkansas and 1 position behind UNC! Sure UNC beat Maryland, but
> that was at home. UNC lost by 10 to the same team UCLA beat by 8 just 1
> game previously!!
>
> Masud

I think it has alot to do with tradition. I'm not a big Dean Smith fan but
everyone also thinks he is God ( kind of like Bobby Knight ). Plus the ACC is
a tough conference. I think there are going to be lots of upsets this year and
no even more as conference play has begun.

Billy
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From: t8c...@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Michael Angelo Relova)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Need Config Files for ATI VGA Wonder and Darius 14" Monitor
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I've got an ATI Vga Wonder Card as well as a Darius 14" Monitor (just
a generic 1024x768 ni) and would like to see if anyone has the config
files for this setup.

I tried running the config program, but the config files it gave me
won't let X run properly...

Thanks,
MIke.
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From: gt7...@prism.gatech.edu (Richard Felton Smith)
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Subject: Re: Troy Vincent's status
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Marco Coleman went to Georgia Tech and I specifically
remember him as going somewhere in the first ten picks.
I think it was around 8 or 9. Vincent was selected
later.

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From: beer...@starbase.neosoft.com (BeerLord _/\o/\_)
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***FORSALE***

= Star SJ-144 Printer ($450)
- description: does 360x360 dpi color and monocrome printing,
transparencies, envelopes, labels... etc.
- included:
+ Users Manual
+ A 30 sheet package of High Quality "Laser Print" paper
+ Warrenty Registration Card
+ Support number sheet w/ order form for extra supplies
+ Slightly used... will knock of $20 for new ribbon
+ I will throw in Printer Cable and a Reem<sp?> of paper (500 sheets)
+ A printer dirver for windows
- conditions: I prefer you send money first, but C.O.D. will be accepted
for $5.00 more.

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From: kor...@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Kate Orman)
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Subject: Re: 8th Doctor in NA's???
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In article <7JAN1995...@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> doc...@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason A. Miller) writes:

> So the NAs and MAs had better continue as is! Could virgin possibly
>by the rights to the new FOX Doctor, rather than have something cheesy like
>"Knights of the Morningstar" coming out with the new DW logo plastered over it?

Hey! I'm *enjoying* "Knights of the Morningstar"!

:-)

--
Kate Orman
"You are endlessly agitating, unceasingly mischievous. Will you never
stop?" - Light, in Marc Platt's "Ghost Light", 1989
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From: kplo...@access3.digex.net (Kenneth Plotkin)
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You could be running out of memory. In Chapter 5, it would either hang
in a cartoon sequence or (if I skipped the cartoon) it would not react
properly to correct actions. Sierra told me that the game likes 6 MB of
RAM (not including the swap file) and that it will do this sort of thing
later in the game as memory fills. I unloaded SMARTDRV and made a boot
disk. That moved me from 4 MB to 6 MB (on a machine with 8) and things
worked fine.

Ken Plotkin
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From: ch...@NeoSoft.com
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Subject: Re: Is there an OCI like layer for Sybase or MS SQL Server??
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In <3eqp5c$9...@ibridge.iohk.com>, jwal...@igate.iohk.com (Jay Walters) writes:
>John Jamison (jamiso...@sagesoln.com) wrote:
>: In article <3ek32f$i...@uuneo.neosoft.com>, ch...@NeoSoft.com wrote:
>
>: > would be easy to port to Sybase or SQL Server. I have no idea!! Is there
>: > a layer similar to OCI for these databases or is it all pre-compilers??
>: > If there is, are they easier or harder to code to??
>: > Chad
>: Yes - the common API for both engines is called DB-Library.
>: -John
>execute it. Now this looks more complicated and less efficient to me,
>but I don't know what all ORACLE OCI is doing under the covers so it
>might just be exporting of the confusion layer to the developer instead
>of hiding it from them.
>

So do that same concepts of opening cursors, parasing sql, binding vars,
executing, fetching and closing cursors apply to ct/db-lib??

Chad

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From: sg94...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Johanna Draper)
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Subject: Re: High Codewarrior Upgrade Prices
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In article <3eotkb$b...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Keolani Taitano <ktai...@s.psych.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>rm...@panix.com (Robert Mah) writes:
>>The Bronze edition costs $100. The Gold costs $400. Why should
>>they charge you less than the incremental cost? Hell, most
>>companies would charge you more, something like $350 for the
>>upgrade to Gold.
>
>Then obviously I think the price for Gold is too high.

Price to start, or upgrade price? If the former, I can't think of a
professional development environment that's less than $400. Sounds about
right to me.

Johanna
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Subject: Re: UMASS VS UCONN (Isn't it about time)
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In article <3erder$8...@nic.umass.edu>, jam...@titan.ucs.umass.edu (James J Reinle) writes:
> UMASS and UCONN in the top three, isn't it about time
> some regular season games were scheduled between them.
> Think of the rivalry that could be developed, and the
> excitement of seeing these two teams play each other
> a couple of times a year.
>
> JJR

Yeah, I agree I would like to see these two play on a regular basis. Is this
going to be a home and home rivalry? How would they play a couple of times a
year?

Billy
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From: char...@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Charles van Duren)
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bro...@delphi.com (brooke thacker) writes:

[... about imprisoning cats because they kill wildlife ...]

Bird populations are declining precipitously because of general habitat
destruction and deterioration. Cats are responsible for only a small
part of that.

In my neighbourhood app. 500 acres of boreal forest are being cut for
pulp every day. That feeds only one of seven or eight pulp plants in
northern Alberta.

The effluent from these mills ends up in two rivers, which feed the
Lake Athabasca delta (look on a map). This is where hundreds of
species of birds breed in the summers. This stuff is not healthy.
Ask anyone who used to drink the river water, or eat the fish from
it before it became an industrial sewer.

Modern agriculture destroys habitat daily by clearing more land to
produce surplus food, by killing insects with pesticides, by
draining or poisoning wetlands, and by decreasing bio-diversity.
Often the same farmers who participate in this will kill magpies
because 'they kill songbirds.' Some jerk south of here claims he
has killed over 30,000 in his lifetime.

And how many birds get killed as a result of roads, traffic, and
tall buildings? Skyscrapers on migration routes are responsible
for many thousands of birds dying every spring and fall.

Think about your own lifestyle in all its ramifications, and
how it may have affected bird habitat.

Cats get blamed because their predation is often graphic and visible.

Personally I think your cats are being made scapegoats. Just because
they do what they do honestly and openly, they are condemned to be
imprisoned (albeit in comfort).

CvD
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From: kru...@cs.hope.edu (John Krueger)
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OK, I'm getting somewhat annoyed with this thread and it seems that many
other people are as well. Therefore I shall try to make this post as
definitive as possible.

January 1, 2001 marks the beginning of the 2001'st year, the 201'st decade,
the 21'st century, and the 3'rd millenium AD according to the Gregorian
calendar. Many people will celebrate more than usual for this reason.

January 1, 2000 marks the beginning of the first year of four digits having
a most significant digit of two, and is thus widely percieved as being the
start of a new millenium. Many people will celebrate more than usual for
this reason.

Many people will celebrate more than usual on BOTH occasions simply because
they will have the opportunity to do so and celebrating is fun. I see no
problem with this.

Given that there is some dispute as to when J.C. was born, I suggest we
start partying on January 1, 1996 and keep going straight through until
January 1, 2005. This way we are guaranteed to be partying on the
appropriate date, and since the party is the only way I can think of that
the change of the millenium will really affect anybody, I think this should
satisfy everyone. If it does not satisfy you, I'm sure there is a
psychiatrist, priest/rabi/minister/monk/other religious athority, logician,
philosopher, pedant, puplic official, or six foot tall talking rabbit named
Harvey who will be happy to tell you that I am wrong and you are right, so
go find him/her/it/them and be happy.

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From: arc...@teleport.com (Violet Arcana)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: E-Mu ESI-32 opinions?
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 00:02:21 -0800
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In article <1994Dec31.2...@mixcom.com>, Steven Kosloske
<Steven....@mixcom.mixcom.com> wrote:

> I'm currently looking into buying a decent sampler, and would like to spend
> roughly $1000. I found a local dealer who's selling the E-Mu ESI-32 for
$1100.

It's well worth the money. When you consider how cheap it is, nothing can
compare. It's a great pro sampler with all the features a sampler needs
and emu spared us the lame built in EFX processor.

-david

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From: scav...@sydney.DIALix.oz.au (Steven Cavanagh)
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Subject: Re: T- Wing ?
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Those guys just can't stop, can they??
first they put the A-Wing in the Battle of Yavin.
Then they put in the assault gunboat
Then they put in the TIE Advanced (but I'm tellin ya- the TIE INTERCEPTOR
was modelled on Vader's TIE- not these!!)
Then they put in the TIE-bloody-Star-Destroyer
Then they loaded them up with planet-busting super nukes
and now their sequelitis fixation comes up the ho-hum T-WING?????

I am now not going to buy the TIE mission disk. Hear that, Lucasarts??

I want CONSISTANCY, not Monty haul.

Cav.
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From: gt0...@prism.gatech.edu (Gregory Pauswinski)
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In article <D265o...@rci.ripco.com>, Jack Roberts <jrob...@ripco.com> wrote:
>apparently i need to kill this guy. can anybody give me tips on how to become
>able to do it?

Buy a ton of healing potions, and turn your attack up to 8 (or whatever the
max number is) try attacking offensive only if you're still having trouble

--
- Power without perception is spiritually useless -
and therefore of no true value

Gregory Pauswinski gt0...@prism.gatech.edu
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From: lc...@peach.newcastle.edu.au (Lucien Cinc)
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Subject: Re: Dual Boot Disappeared!
Date: 9 Jan 1995 15:08:50 GMT
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Phil Zampino (zam...@panix.com) wrote:
: I have my machine configured to let me boot on either OS/2 or DOS/Windows.
: Problem is, dual boot has disappeared from my machine when I boot,
: and I never get the choice to choose. Does anyone know where
: dual boot has gone, or how to invoke it in a manual manner.

I had the same problem. Use the dos fdisk and set your dual boot partition,
to be the active one. Take care with Fdisk, otherwise, I can wipe your disk.
Check you MS-DOS manual, before using it.

_______________________________________________________________________
_ __
Lucien Cinc - - /, /, ,-||-,
Author of WinOne, A shareware )/ )/ ) ' ('||| )
Super Command Line Shell v5.5 )__)__) \\ \\/\\ (( |||--)) \\/\\ _-_
for Windows 3.1, Windows NT ~)__)__) || || || (( |||--)) || || || \\
lc...@moss.newcastle.edu.au ) ) ) || || || ( / | ) || || ||/
/-_/-_/ \\ \\ \\ -____- \\ \\ \\,/
Windows 3.1 version available from CICA :-
ftp.cica.indiana.edu:/pub/pc/win3/util/w_one49a.zip and w_one49b.zip
Windows NT version available from :-
ftp.cis.ksu.edu:/pub/upload/ntcmd61.zip
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Subject: MM: Organizations & Publications
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/** multimonitor: 113.0 **/
** Topic: 4/94 Organiations and Publications **
** Written 5:20 PM Dec 30, 1994 by newsdesk in cdp:multimonitor **

From the April, 1994 issue of "Multinational Monitor"

Organizations

National Labor Committee
Education Fund in Support
of Worker and Human Rights
in Central America
15 Union Square
New York, NY 10003-3377

Centrale Gnrale des
Travailleurs (CGT)
56, rue du Peuple
Port-au-Prince
HAITI

Peasant Movement of Papay/
National Peasant Movement of the Papay Congress (MPP/MPNKP)
25 West Street, 2nd Floor
Boston, MA 02111

Haitian Information Bureau
c/o Lynx Air
Box 407139
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33340

International Liaison Office for President Jean-Bertrand
Aristide
P.O. Box 25535
Washington, DC 20007

Washington Office on Haiti
110 Maryland Avenue, NE,
Suite 310
Washington, DC 20002

Quixote Center/Haiti Reborn
P.O. Box 5206
Hyattsville, MD 20782

Haiti Commission
39 West 14th Street, #206
New York, NY 10011

Development Group for Alternative Policies (D-GAP)
1400 "Eye" Street, NW, #520
Washington, DC 20005

Haiti Anti-Intervention
Organizing Committee
Box 344, Cathedral Station
New York, NY 10025

Amnesty International
304 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20003

Haitian Refugee Center
119 NE 54th Street
Miami, FL 33137

Americas Watch
485 5th Avenue
New York, NY 10017

U.S. Agency for International
Development
320 21st Street, NW
Washington, DC 20005

Coalition for Corporate
Withdrawal from Burma
.i.Franklin, c/o Research &;c/o Franklin Research &
.i.Corp., Development;Development Corp.
711 Atlantic Avenue
Boston, MA 10650

Survival International
310 Edgeware Road
London W21DY
UNITED KINGDOM

Asian Immigrant Women
Advocates
Room 301, 310 Eighth Street
Oakland, CA 94607

Jessica McClintock, Inc.
1400 16th Street
San Francisco, CA 94103

Amoco Corp.
200 E. Randolph Drive
Chicago, IL 60601

Shell Oil
One Shell Plaza
Houston, TX 77702

Publications

Haiti After the Coup:
Sweatshop or Real Development
New York: National Labor
Committee Education Fund in
Support of Worker & Human
Rights in Central America, 1993

Aiding Migration: The Impact of
International Development
Assistance on Haiti
By Josh DeWind
and David H. Kinley III
Boulder, CO: Westview Press, 1988

National Endowment for Democracy: A Foreign Policy Branch
Gone Awry
Albuquerque, NM:
Inter-Hemispheric Education
Resource Center, 1990

AIDS and Accusation:
Haiti and the Geography of Blame
By Paul Farmer
Berkeley: University of California Press, 1992

Report on the Situation of
Human Rights in Haiti
Washington, DC:
General Secretariat, Organization
of American States, 1993

The Rainy Season:
Haiti Since Duvalier
By Amy Willentz
New York: Simon & Schuster, 1989

The Catholic Church in Haiti:
Political and Social Change
By Anne Greene
East Lansing: Michigan State
University Press, 1993

Haiti Progrs
1398 Flatbush Ave.
Brooklyn, NY 11210

"Haiti: Killing the Dream"
New York: Crowing Rooster
Productions, 1992

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From: da...@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Printing HGR in color on a IIc
Date: 9 Jan 1995 08:12:49 +1100
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dem...@atlantis.actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) writes:
>In article <3enani$f...@eis.calstate.edu>,
>Christopher Sokolov <cso...@eis.calstate.edu> wrote:
>> Also, Mousepaint (circa '84) will print HGR graphics on an ImageWriter or
>> ImageWriter II. The ImageWriter Toolkit probably does, too.

>MousePaint doesn't support colour, if I remember right.

I agree (I had to rewrite the driver so that it could print to my Epson
compatible printer and there was definitely no color printing support).
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From: mn...@gwdu19.gwdg.de (Matthias Nott )
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: 4ALLTEX inst. problem in os/2
Date: 12 Jan 1995 14:37:29 GMT
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Dear users who helped me with LaTeX,

thank you for your hints concerning the installation of 4ALLTeX.
4ALLTeX is a more complete distribution of Eberhard Matthes'
emTeX. My problem with the installation of the package is mainly,
that the 386 versions of the TeX executables make use of a DOS
extender emX, that does not support DPMI, nor does it run in a
DOS box of OS/2. Eberhard Matthes admits this in his documentation
to emX.

The problem is now, that the installation batch files make use of
Versions of TeX that require emX running, for the creation of some
formats as far as I understood.

Given that emX does not run in a DOS box of OS/2, it is difficult
to simply follow the shipped installation batch files, but due
to the lack of documentation as to that part, one has difficulties
in proceeding in any other way.

Disk 19, then, should supply the OS/2 support for emTeX, but
surprisingly enough, there should be (according to the 'whats-on.019
file) a file called TEX386W.ARJ supplying DPMI support for OS/2 ---
but the file simply isn't there.

Another problem is that the enclosed MFJOB / METAFONT package
seems to use emX as well --- so that the creation of missing fonts
makes problems.

-()-

It would be very helpful if either Eberhard Matthes or the
4ALLTeX specialists would be so kind as to supply simply a
short step-by-step manual explaining the installation process
for pure DOS, OS/2 and DOS/Windows machines that, say, have
never used TeX before and hence would like to follow exactly
the predefined directory structure. The enclosed readme
(in dutch) is already on that way, but does refer to DOS machines
mainly.

I would like to stress that some further support about emTeX would
be recommendable, since for example, an important CTAN mirror
(ftp.gwdg.de) already publish different packages of TeX (based
upon GTeX, but more self-documenting) that would be much more
easy to install. This can be read in WWW.GWDG.DE. Responsible
is the local ftp administrator Eberhard Moenkeberg (emo...@gwdg.de).

All further help about the installation of LaTeX / 4ALLTeX on
pure OS/2 machines would be greatly appreciated.

So far, I have already been able to get to work LaTeX with OS/2,
using the EPMTeX package as integration platform and the DVIPM
previewer.

Matthias Nott

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From: el...@nkjea.kj.uib.no (Eldar Solevaag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm
Subject: Has Pac.Image(superVoice) an internet support site ?
Date: 9 Jan 1995 15:37:54 GMT
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Hi
I have an Voice Modem bundled with SuperVoice 2.0a, & I wondered if
anyone know if Pacific Image has an support ftp site ?
Isnt there a rel 2.0b ??

Eldar

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From: cri...@cs.hope.edu (The FLASH)
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Subject: Re: Strange DNS problem?
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Gururajan Ramachandran (guru...@us.net) wrote:
: Hello,

: I was trying to setup a SunOS 4.1.3 system on a Sparc
: workstation in a "remote name server" format. I put the correct
: name server in the /etc/resolv.conf file.

: I setup the default route to our gateway. So far so good.
: I tried "nslookup" and it came up and gave me correct internet
: addresses. I tried "ping" and "ftp" with IP ADDRESSES and they
: worked fine. However, when I tried "ping" and "ftp" with host
: NAMES, I get an "unknown host" error!

: I am not running "named" since a "remote name server" setup
: is not supposed to be running a name server. Atleast I think it
: should not be running this daemon.

: Does anybody have any idea why this might be the case?

I think you have to either be running YP or patch your C library
so that DNS functions are built in. Below is a doc I have on the
second process.

--Mike
cri...@cs.hope.edu

**************************************************************************
Subject: 3.2) How do I use DNS instead of NIS for hostname resolution?

The "normal" behavior of a hostname lookup under NIS is to consult the
NIS hosts map and then DNS (if configured). You can change this so all
hostname lookups go directly to DNS. The SunOS shared library mechanism
allows you change the behavior of any command that is dynamically linked
to the shared library. In SunOS 4.1 and greater releases, there is an
optional package called "shlib custom" that contains a kit for
rebuilding shared libraries. You can select this in suninstall or load
it later. It will put the files in /usr/lib/shlib.etc. Note that
machines that come with pre-installed SunOS don't include this. It
contains both a "normal" and System V version of libc and some tools to
build shared libraries. The Sun-supplied README file gives some help,
but doesn't detail how to change the hostname lookup functions. The
complete procedure for this is spelled out in "bindon41.shar", which is
available for anonymous ftp from "ra.mcs.anl.gov" in "/pub" - it goes
one step further and replaces the Sun resolver routines with BIND 4.8.3
(or later) versions. Note that you can still use NIS for other things in
environment, such as passwd, group info, etc - the NIS hosts map is just
ignored. There are several important statically linked binaries that
will break if you replace the Sun routines. "/etc/mount" is probably
where you will first notice that it doesn't know about any host that is
not present in /etc/hosts. The same goes for "rcp". My solution was to
recompile mount and rcp with the new resolver routines, but you need
source code to do this. Sun apparently will give you a dynamically-
linked version of mount if you have software maintenance. You can
compile your own version of rcp from the Berkeley 4.3 source that is
available on various ftp site. Otherwise, you might just have to have
all hosts (and aliases) in /etc/hosts that you want to mount or use
Internet addresses (yuck). Another "feature" of a DNS-only environment
is that hostnames will sometimes be returned all in uppercase and these
will not match the lower-case entries you typically have in
/etc/exports, /etc/bootparams, etc. There are some patches to BIND 4.8.3
called "resolv+" that allow you to specify hostname lookups to
/etc/hosts only, DNS only or both.

bind 4.8.3 is on ucbarpa.berkeley.edu (128.32.130.11) in /4.3. resolv+ is
on osl.csc.ncsu.edu (152.1.58.11) in pub/SUNOS/resolv+-2.1.tar.Z. The latest
version of bind is available from gatekeeper.dec.com (16.1.0.2) in
/.8/misc/vixie

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From: CANCUNASS
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In article <3e7gv8$l...@gw.PacBell.COM> jpg...@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>WILDCARD NFL PLAYOFFS - JANUARY 01, 1995
>
>BEARS 35 FINAL
>VIKINGS 18
>

BOY ITS AMAZIN H0W TRULEY WEAK THE NFC-CENTREL IS AFTER ALL. 2 GAMEZ IN
THE NFC PLAYD, 2 NFC CENTREL TEAMS ARE HISS-T00-REE!!!

-C.
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From: ai...@cadesm34.eng.utah.edu (RUSSELL D AIMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: metasever down? dont have em memerized? try this!
Date: 12 Jan 1995 01:06:40 GMT
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if you use 'telnet metaserver.ecst.csuchico.edu 3520' you get
something like this:

<-sniped old servers->
bayes.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:38:40
defiant.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:40:07
ghost.dsi.unimi.it(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:34:28
legend.cma.fr(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:34:20
mantaray.itlabs.umn.edu(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:37:35
mean.mu.caltech.edu(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:42:16
megalag.risc.uni-linz.ac.at(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:33:22
netrek.chemietechnik.uni-dortmund.de(592: 0 Players online at 23:40:37
orca.cosy.sbg.ac.at(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:39:58
wormhole.ecst.csuchico.edu(2592) : 0 Players online at 23:47:35
bradbert.ugcs.caltech.edu(2592) : 1 Players online at 23:46:26
fisher.psy.vu.nl(2592) : 1 Players online at 23:46:20
hockey.ksu.edu(2592) : 1 Players online at 23:45:17
rsls6.sprachlit.uni-regensburg.de(2592) : 1 Players online at 23:45:04
cassius.cs.uiuc.edu(2592) : 2 Players online at 23:43:34
europa.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de(2592): 2 Players online at 23:48:20
bigbang.astro.indiana.edu(2592) : 4 Players online at 23:47:37
netrek.cs.mcgill.ca(2592) : 4 Players online at 23:45:09
pippin.ee.usu.edu(2592) : 11 Players online at 23:43:35
calvin.usc.edu(2592) : Wait queue 8 at 23:40:27

but if its down you can't. solution: SAVE EM (or look here) I saved
them by mouse copying them. I think trying to memerize them is to much
work. there is also a small list (somewhere) in the http netrek under
games and rec. also if the sever is up you can see whos playing with:

telnet metaserver.ecst.csuchico.edu 3522 (only the port is different)

some say you nead to use -h to go derectly to a game but I never
have. try it and find out

wow, newbe is starting to get a clue!
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From: cmf...@panix.com (Christine M. Faltz)
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My best friend Lisa, the mistress of a veritable menagerie (an African
Grey parrot, a parakeet, two Budgie (sp) birds, a canary, a German
shepherd and two cats) is having a problem with the adult cat -- a
recently neutered female, approx. 2 years (she saved it from the streets
of Brooklyn). The cat is active, eating and generally behaving like her
self -- but -- lately she has begun, though she knows where her litter
box is and uses it -- to defecate and urinate in both plants and worse --
the bathtub. Water does not scare her -- after Lisa takes a shower, the
cat climbs into the tub and lays beneath the faucet so that the "drips"
fall on her. What can Lisa do to discourage this behavior? Why would
the cat do this? She gets along fine with the kitten -- a ten-month-old
male -- they play and sleep together, though the older cat seems to feel
"dominated" by the kitten, which according to Lisa, is not her
personality at all. Any ideas, suggestions and potential remedies are
appreciated, here or in e-mail. Thanks.
Christine
--
"Who needs rational when your toes curl?" -- Dr. Crusher
"Growl at me, so that I know you still care." -- Q
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P. Bhatia (u880...@muss.cis.McMaster.CA) wrote:
: [I also have a policy of 'experiencing' things -- from listening to
: Metallica to Van Halen to AC/DC to dozens of other hard rock/metal groups
: (no rap) perhaps once a year. But I put it all in perspective and thus am
: not about to join some satanic cult or jump off a building (any time
: soon). -PB]

Oh, please!!! I listen to those groups all the time. Van Halen and
Aerosmith happen to be two of my favorite groups (I also listen to AD/DC,
Metallica, Motley Crue, Guns N' Roses, and Kiss) and I KNOW I'm not
crazy! Stereotyping, stereotyping, stereotyping...

_____ _____ ___ ___ _____ __ _
| \ | ___|\ \/ /|_ _|| \| |
| o || ___| \ / _| |_ | |\ | |
|_____/ |_____| \__/ |_____||_| \__|

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* Devin Shieh * Alpha Phi Omega * Life is precious. *
* d...@wam.umd.edu * Epsilon Mu Chapter * Treasure it. *
* University of Maryland * (301) 314-VIP1 * -Amy Grant *
************************************************************************
* But maybe time is also a companion who goes with us on our journey, *
* and reminds us to cherish the moments of our lives because they will *
* never come again. -Captain Jean-Luc Picard, "Star Trek Generations" *
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From: ri...@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: What is IGC (Institute for Global Communications)? (autopost)
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IGC is the organization which maintains PeaceNet and EcoNet (see the
postings describing them) as well as two smaller networks, ConflictNet
(conflict resolution) and HomeoNet. Their blurb --

The Institute for Global Communications (IGC) is a division of the
Tides Foundation, a nonprofit corporation under section 501(c)(3)
of the IRS code. All donations to IGC are tax-deductible, and can
be made through the Tides Foundation at 1388 Sutter Street, 10th
Floor, San Francisco, CA 94109.

IGC is a (founding) member of the Association for Progressive
Communications (APC), with over 11,000 worldwide members ranging from
individual users, to peace/justice/human-rights/ecology/etc
organizations, to NGOs (Non-Governmental Organizations). Enclosed
below is an article about the APC from IGC's monthly "NetNews,"
followed by a listing of the other APC member "nodes." At "@igc.org"
for (internet) email to the addresses given for those.

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IGC's address:

IGC
18 De Boom Street
San Francisco, CA 94107
(415) 442-0220
(415) 546-1794 fax

Or by Email:

--------------------------------------------
To send email to an IGC (EG PeaceNet or
Econet) account "abc" just substitute "abc"
for "peacenet" in the following:

Internet: peac...@igc.org

Bitnet: cdp!peacenet%labrea@stanford
UUCP: uunet!pyramid!cdp!peacenet
DASNet: [DE3MIR]peacenet
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For general questions/help, substitute
"support" for "peacenet"

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========
APC News
========

IGC regards international cooperation and partnership as essential in
addressing peace and environmental problems. Towards these goals, IGC
was a founding member of the Association for Progressive Communications
(APC) which now includes low-cost computer networks in eight countries.
Jeremy Mortimer is APC's technical coordinator and reports here on APC's
involvement in international networking.

"As activists all over the world discover the possibilities of
electronic communications, computer networks spring up to serve them.
Usually run by the activist communities themselves, these networks
initially serve a small group of organisations, or a small geographic
area, but soon develop a need to be involved in international
communications.

"The APC has developed a role in connecting these systems. We hope in
some cases that they will eventually become new members of the APC. In
other cases, we simply work with them to ensure that users of both
networks have access to all the information and connections they need in
their work. Sometimes this means setting up e-mail exchange only; other
times the connection involves shared conferences as well.

"The London-based Poptel system (GeoNet) serves hundreds of
Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) all over the world, and a link to
APC systems was an early priority. London-based APC member GreenNet
developed the software to accomplish both an e-mail and conference
exchange -- not an easy task as the systems are substantially different.
You will find a list of conferences imported from GeoNet in the
'conferences' conference, under the "GeoNet" topic.

"Networks are springing up quickly around Latin America. In addition to
the Brazilian and Nicaraguan APC nodes (Alternex and Nicarao,
respectively), the United Nations Development Program has been
sponsoring the creation of systems in Costa Rica (Huracan), Ecuador
(Ecuanex) and Bolivia (Unbol). (See the 'intlaccess' conference, where
there is a topic for each country, for more information about each of
these networks.) The Instituto del Tercer Mundo in Uruguay, which has
run an NGO network (CHASQUE) for the last 18 months, has recently
applied for APC membership. For more information about CHASQUE, send
e-mail to 'chasque'.

"Single-user bulletin-board systems (BBSs) based on the popular 'Fido'
program are such a common first step for activist groups that we have
developed software to allow APC systems to talk to them. Fido
connections are in place at GreenNet (UK) and Web (Canada), and are
being installed at other APC nodes including IGC. Fido systems as far
afield as Estonia, Czechoslovakia and several African countries are now
connected.

"The German political network, ComLink, which runs a type of BBS
software called Zerberus, has also applied to join the APC. A link
between our networks and theirs, which includes shared conferences, has
been in place for several months. (See NetNews, October 1990.) In
addition, the Moscow-based International Foundation for the Survival &
Development of Humanity will soon open GlasNet, our future APC partner
in the Soviet Union."

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Topic 23 IGC NetNews - May 1991 v5 n4 Response 3 of 8
jillaine
netnews 4:48 pm May 20, 1991
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APC Partner Networks
====================

Alternex
IBASE
Rua Vicente de Souza 29
22251 Rio de Janiero BRAZIL
+55 (21) 286 0348
fax: +55 (21) 286 0541
e-mail: ax!suporte

ComLink*
Moorkamp 46
D-3000 Hannover 1
GERMANY
+49 (511) 3503081
e-mail: sy...@oln.zer

FredsNaetet/PeaceNet Sweden
Timmermansgraen 4
S-116 27 Stockholm SWEDEN
+46 (8) 720 0001
e-mail: pns!support

GlasNet*
International Foundation
Ulitsa Vesnina
Moscow 121002 USSR
+7 (095) 241-8243
fax: +7 (095) 230-2608
e-mail: glas!support

GreenNet
25 Downham Road
London N1 5AA GREAT BRITAIN
+44 (71) 923 2624
fax: +44 (71) 254 1102
e-mail: gn!support

IGC Networks
PeaceNet/EcoNet
18 De Boom Street
San Francisco, CA 94107
+1 (415) 442-0220
fax: +1 (415) 546-1976
e-mail: support

Nicarao
CRIES
Iglesia Carmen
1 cuadra al lago
Apartado 3516
Managua, NICARAGUA
+505 (2) 26 2 28 or 25 1 27
fax: +505 (2) 26 1 80
e-mail: ni!ayuda

Pegasus Networks/EarthNet
PO Box 424
Byron Bay
2481 New South Wales, AUSTRALIA
+61 (66) 8 56789
fax: +61 (66) 8 56926
e-mail: peg!support

Web
401 Richmond Street West
Suite 104
Toronto, Ontario M5V 3A8
+1 (416) 596 0212
fax: +1 (416) 974 9189
e-mail: web!spider

*APC Membership Pending

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Appendix: Interpreting an IGC "header"

Example:
------------------------------------------------------------------
Topic 6 ISAAC ASIMOV: IS ANYONE LISTENING?
peb peb.population 12:35 pm Jan 4, 1991
------------------------------------------------------------------

The article ("topic") has the subject "ISAAC ASIMOV: IS ANYONE
LISTENING?" and was posted to the newsgroup ("conference")
"peb.population" by someone at the "peb" account on PeaceNet.

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From: dra...@spd.dsccc.com (David Raymer)
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Does anyone know of a site, or sites, where I can find CORBA related info ?

Thanks,

-- dave
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From: ver...@panix.com (Geoffrey)
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In article <3emtf4$j...@pandora.sdsu.edu>, cur...@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Troy
Curtis) wrote:

> On my Quadra 840av, I opened a Quark file yesterday and
> was told that the file used different versions of some
> fonts, and that the text would be re-flowed, throwing off
> the entire chapter.

Are there any Truetype Fonts hiding out in there? I assume you have
checked, but those things can be nasty.

Regards

Geoffrey <ver...@panix.com>

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From: p...@esca.com (Phil Hystad)
Subject: Re: 0 /0 NULL
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tv...@dbsoftware.com writes:

>i have been studying the FAQ.
>I am still a bit <padon the pun> confused about null.

>can you use 0 and /0 to define null:

>#define null 0
> - or -
>#define null /0

>i have always used the /0 but the faq uses 0. my theory is that this is
>dependent on the machine you are running on.

>anyway, my question is what is the difference between using 0 /0 and null.

Several comments::

...usually null is defined using all caps, NULL
...usually, NULL is defined by others, not by you, for example,
in C land, it is defined typically in stdio.h.
...instead of /0, you probably meant \0 but this is wrong too.

In C++, the literal zero, 0, is a very suitable null pointer value.
It is not necessary to use the NULL macro unless you choose to. I much
prefer zero since it is so easy to use and very obvious as to what
it is you are doing. Thus, the following are ALL valid and acceptable
C++ statements:

char* p;

p = 0; // set pointer to zero

if ( p == 0 ) // compare pointer to zero

if ( p ) // implicitly compare pointer to non-zero

Comments finis.

phil
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Subject: Re: Where is the FAQ list for token-ring?
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>I would be grateful for a locator for a token-ring FAQ list.

Wasn't someone in Australia going to write one? What happened to him?
AFAIK, there is no T-R FAQ. Perhaps we should get one started...
Maybe Barry Nance can post relevant sections of his book (I know, just
joking ;)

Here's a quick outline -- who wants to do each section, and what other
sections can be done?

Outline of contents.

I. What is Token Ring?
II. History of Token Ring.
III. JIHAD! Token Ring & Ethernet.
IV. How do I install a Token-Ring net? (Primer on cables and MAU's)
V. How do I route Token-Ring?
VI. Are drivers available for...?
VII. How do I contact tech-support for...?
VIII. What are know bugs in the xyz adapter?
IX. How do I fix this problem?
X. Other techno-dweeb questions.

Richard
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From: malc...@westminster.ac.uk (Malcolm Ray)
Subject: Minuet and fragmentation
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A user here is experiencing problems getting Minuet running over SLIP: DNS
lookup failures. Traces seem to point to Minuet failing to cope with
fragmented UDP datagrams (which are likely to be common in DNS replies,
given an MTU of 256). Users dial in to an Annex 3. If I configure the Annex
for an MTU of 1006 (so that the DNS replies aren't fragmented), all is fine;
with an MTU of 256, Minuet continually retries the DNS lookup. Meanwhile,
other callers (using Trumpet Winsock or SLIP on Linux) have no problems.

Software versions:

Minuet 1.0_Beta_16
PHONE/UMSLIP 2.4
Annex R8.0.8

Is anyone else using this combination successfully? Have I missed something
obvious? (I'm not familiar with Minuet or UMSLIP, so this is entirely
possible).
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From: bru...@ndlc.occ.uky.edu (Kevin Bruner)
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My windows loads to the point of showing the desktop, then locks up with
a double-pointing arrow pointing east & west (if looking at a map). Any
ideas of how to correct that?

Thanks
Kevin Bruner

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From: mik...@ix.netcom.com (Michael Hakanson)
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In <3f1dr7$s...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> xum...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (he xuming)
writes:

>
>wyh...@raman.ucsd.edu (William Y Huang) writes:
>
>>I once sold an OTC stock at the ask price through Schwab's touch
>>tone trader. I figure the only way this can happen is if
>>Schwab connected me with a buyer at the same time. But this
>>never happened again.
>
>Schwarb has been better than deep discounters in filling up orders
>for OTc stocks. That is my experience. But to sell at ask and buy
>at bid is still uncommon. I have got orders filled in between
>from time to time. In the future, new systems will be introduced
>for matching orders for OTC stocks.
>
Newer rules do not allow the market maker trade ahead of the public,
but only at that particular MM. Since Schwab is routing all its orders
to thesame market maker, it is more likely that you will be filled

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From: John Szostak <jszo...@u.washington.edu>
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Thanks for the info - it's good to keep up with what the scissor-wielders are
up to on the Hill. Personally, I think people have no need to panic too
much, however... NEA funding is excellent PR for a relatively measly percent
of the federal budget. No other program costs so little that is also so well
known and supported by the majority of the people - for all the reasons you
mention, but also one other. Image is everything to our bold
representatives, and with the NEA in place, officials that want to look
"culturally informed" or even (gasp) liberal have a handhold; also,
conservatives and right-wingers have a safe subject for soap-box rantings.
And like I said, these grants are a mere pittance, a few cups of water from
the reservoir. Or am I just being naive...?

John Szostak
University of Washington

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=============================================
C a p i t a l i s m v s D e m o c r a c y
=============================================

Personally, I'm in favor of democracy, which means that the central
institutions of society have to be under popular control. Now, under
capitalism, we can't have democracy by definition. Capitalism is a
system in which the central institutions of society are in principle
under autocratic control. Thus, a corporation or an industry is, if
we were to think of it in political terms, fascist; that is, it has
tight control at the top and strict obedience has to be established
at every level -- there's little bargaining, a little give and take,
but the line of authority is perfectly straightforward. Just as I'm
opposed to political fascism, I'm opposed to economic fascism. I
think that until the major institutions of society are under the
popular control of participants and communities, it's pointless to
talk about democracy.
from Noam Chomsky
Language and Politics (1988)
p.162.

[From: RH...@admin1.UnbSJ.CA]

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From: kor...@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Kate Orman)
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In article <3ei1iu$m...@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca> wog...@blues.epas.utoronto.ca (Elizabeth or Carrie O'Grady) writes:
>I think you guys should take over alt.recovery.na, a la
>alt.syntax.tactical... just a few, subtle posts at first, then a few
>arguments, then a full-fledged howl as one of you calculates exactly
>how much money it costs to own *every single NA*...
>
>Think how it would confuse all the smokers! :>

Continuing along the line of bizarre (and, in this case, rather chilling)
coincidences, one of the fictional names given to a marital rape survivor in
Jocelynne Scutt's "Family Violence in Australia" is Bernice Summerfield.

--
Kate Orman
"You are endlessly agitating, unceasingly mischievous. Will you never
stop?" - Light, in Marc Platt's "Ghost Light", 1989
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From: card...@omni.voicenet.com (Tim Woehr)
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Is anyone using this combination? It thinks it can use the ATI Pro Turbo
driver because it has the Mach 64 chip, but it doesn't work and I can't get
the Win 3.1 drvier to work. Anyone have a suggestion?

Tim

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Eugen_...@mindlink.bc.ca (Eugen Woiwod) writes:

>In article <D29tw...@agora.rdrop.com>, ben...@agora.rdrop.com (Ben
>Moore) writes:
>>
>> Msg-ID: <D29tw...@agora.rdrop.com>
>> References: <3f1dlu$6...@crl9.crl.com>
>> Posted: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 02:36:29 GMT
>>
>> Org. : Raindrop Laboratories
>>
>> In article <3f1dlu$6...@crl9.crl.com>, lipi...@crl.com (Craig J.
>> Lipinski) says:
>> >
>> >I've heard that there's a super secret instruction included in all intel
>> >processors that will actually make the chip EXPLODE! And there are new
>> >viruses that are taking advantage of this. I heard it from a guy who
>> has
>> >a computer so it must be true. So be very careful...
>>
>> If this isn't the biggest bullshit I've ever heard in my life!!! Intel?
>> Intentionally putting a code into their flagship that would make them
>> self
>> destruct?! Do know know how much money they'd lose to lawsuits all over
>> the world?! More than can be fathomed. (I like that word! <grin> Just
>> not
>> sure I used it in the right context?) Did you make this up? Or did you
>> get help? Ya dipshit...

>God Dont ya just hate these pc newbies who buy a PC today, and the day
>after they believe Intel put's a code into the CPU to make it explode!

God dont ya just hate those sarcasm newbies who read sarcasm today,
and the day after they still think the guy was serious about a chip
exploding!

>Somebody shoot the idiot please(WITH A BFG-9000 FROM DOOM THANK YOU) <g>

Somebody get this guy a sense of humor please(A NICE SARCASTIC ONE LIKE
LETTERMAN THANK YOU) <G>

>Ttul

Tturd

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From: lc...@peach.newcastle.edu.au (Lucien Cinc)
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Doug Dejulio (dd...@pitt.edu) wrote:
: In article <3epegj$n...@vern.bga.com>, Stephen D. Culp <cu...@bga.com> wrote:
: > I can hardly believe it, but yes upgrading from 20 to 32 MB severely
: > impacted NT 3.5's performance.
: [...]
: > I am left wondering if it may be an issue with my motherboard and
: > 32MB. I would like to hear if someone else out there has encountered
: > this, or has any ideas about what may be causing it.

: This sort of thing happens under lots of OSes all the time with
: motherboards that don't cache memory > 16M properly (I'm familiar with
: the problem as it affects Linux). You might be able to check to see
: if that's the problem in two ways:

In the NT news groups, they have been discussing this a lot. Basically,
if you enable cached memory above 16 megs, in your CMOS BIOS, then the
problem should go away. I am not sure, if I have it the right way around?

I hope someone can confirm this?

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From: bea...@andrews.edu (Kendall Beaman)
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Hey guys,

A friend of mine asked me to find him a viewer which views Targa Graphics
format. I'm not familiar with that format. I know that there are viewers
out there but I can't find them. If you know of one please send me
e-mail. I'll keep looking though. Thanks in advance.
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bmai...@eyecon.com writes:

OK, a gin song. Part of one, anyway ... I forget everything but this
verse:

Last week in a fit of pique [make that a long peeeeeek to fit the
scansion]
He threw little sister into the creek...
The water tasted bad for a week...
And we had to make do with gin (with gin, with gin, with gin)
And we had to make do with gin

This is one of the verses from Tom Leher's ANCIENT IRISH BALLAD. He
said it differs from other ancient Irish ballads in that it was written
in 1952.

It's about a young girl who does her family in...

About a young maid I'll sing a song
Sing rickity tickity tin
About a young maid I'll sing a song
Who didn't have her family long
Not only did she do them wrong,
She did everyone of them in, them in,
She did everyone of them in.

William Sburgfort Smith

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Subject: THE AFSC RESOURCE LIBRARY: South/Southern Africa (1)
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THE AFSC RESOURCE LIBRARY: South/Southern Africa (1)

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Lyle Tatum, Editor

"A clear and compelling analysis of the current crisis in South Africa
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"The AFSC has performed a valuable service in offering a concise
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to the police state of today, as well as constructive proposals for
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An AFSC perspective on South Africa's development and problems with
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An effective organizing tool in the format of a South African passbook
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In article <19950109....@banana.demon.co.uk>,
ke...@banana.demon.co.uk wrote:
> > In general, I strongly oppose software patents, and see them as
> > extremely harmful for the entire computer industry.
> This is wild speculation, at best. A case can be made for patents;
> especially on the grounds that companies are more likely to invest in
> developing new techniques and algorithms if they see profit from it.
> This means getting paid for the ideas generated, which function is
> normally performed by patents.

Not so in all fields. Computer science springs to mind. Up until about
1980, very little software was patented. The United States built a
software industry that still dominates the world on the strength of
copyright, not patents.

--
David Hayes PGP public key available on request, or send
dha...@onramp.net mail subject: help to pgp-pub...@demon.co.uk
I pay for this connection, so these must be my opinions.
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From: kor...@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Kate Orman)
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In article <881814...@worldlnk.demon.co.uk> Ra...@worldlnk.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article: <3ea1bv$3...@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au> kor...@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Kate Orman) writes:
>> A friend of mine put his finger on the nub of this debate. He said, "There
>> aren't any black Vulcans. There aren't any *white* Vulcans. They can
>> introduce three-legged Vulcans in 'Voyager' if they like. It doesn't
>> matter, because they're *made up*." :-)
>>
>
>Execute this friend of yours! made up! Star trek! Never! <g>
>BTW.. If we can have Black Romulans what is wrong with a black vulcan?
> (Cmdr. Tomalok in Pegasus. Season VII)

There's a black Vulcan in STV.

I volunteer to write up the FAQ on this one! :-)

--
Kate Orman
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stop?" - Light, in Marc Platt's "Ghost Light", 1989
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From: jag...@matisse.eri.uct.ac.za (Jean Aggenbach)
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Conrad Steenberg (con...@fskcds.puk.ac.za) wrote:

: Dunno that one. Did they correct the cache problem on the multiprocessor
: parts yet?

I'll let you know as soon as NT or OS/2's installed. I only have a copy of
NT 3.1, and that seg faulted during installation. It seems to be due to the
PCI BIOS. Anyway, I'm busy downloading new patches from M$, and will install
them tomorrow. If they don't work, the best option would be to upgrade to NT
3.5. I'd _really_ like to get my hands on Warp SMP though...

: Just out of curiosity: what did you pay for this particular MP beast (MB and
: CPU's)?

Money. ;-)

: Now if someone could convince Linux to use both processors, THAT would be a
: nice system...

*shudder*
It's prolly just a matter of time I think. As soon as they become affordable
to the general public, I bet everyone will be screaming for SMP development
in c.o.l.d.s. Now if Linuxers could just get their hands on some PReP
machines too ... =-)

Oh btw, I got the info on the difference between the P54C and P54CM at last,
if anyone's interested. It's a bunch of stepping numbers which I can't
remember off the top of my head right now... but mail me if you are
interested.

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Jean
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From: Chris Green <ch...@hep.ph.liv.ac.uk>
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Hi,

Does anyone have any idea where I can get info on the latest version of
the SKILL-mode extension for emacs to ease editing of Cadence macro
files? The only version I can find is circa Sept 1993, and I was looking
for a version that caters for the new functions in version 4.3. Any
suggestions gratefully received.

Cheers,

Chris Green,

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From: pawa...@mik.uky.edu (patrick a walsh)
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I bought Dark Sun I a long time ago, and had no room on my hard drive to
install it, so I let a friend borrow it till I could clean up the hard
drive, and he lost he manual and never installed the game. Could some nice
person out there either point me in the direction of a typed copy of the
docs or a FAQ of some sort? I would really appreciate it. Currently
all my characters are about to die because they can't rest for a day and
recover spells. Thanks for the help.

Patrick
..

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From: rus...@iglou.iglou.com (Russel Willoughby)
Subject: TECH: LAH flipper problem
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The LAH at my lunchtime arcade hangout has been experience the dreaded
flipper problems that seem to afflict all of these monsters. They're
sporadically weak, especially the right one, which sometimes "flutters"
up and down while you're holding the button in.

The tech says that he has cleaned the EOS contacts repeatedly, and this
solves the problem temporarily. He has no idea what is causing it to
return. So what can he do to solve this once and for all? I need
something to play while Shaq Attaq and BOP are occupied.

Russel

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From: jwhi...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (John Whiteside)
Newsgroups: misc.writing
Subject: Re: PC Midwinter Festival in a Pear Tree
Date: 11 Jan 1995 17:23:45 GMT
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Kimberly B (swa...@netcom.com) wrote:

: Pardon me, Mr. Whiteside, for communicating clearly using everyday,
: conventional words that everyone knows the meaning of.

Okay. Could you offer a defintion for "P.C." I've yet to hear two people
offer the same definition for it, or offer any definition that has any
meaning.

: What bothers me is that people can say things on the net that they
: wouldn't be so rude (usually) to say to someone's face. "people who call
: themselves writers"... seems we've heard this all before... while you're
: at it, feel free to point out all my typos to me (carpel tunnel syndrome
: be damned).

I meant nothing like what you seem to be imagining here. I would expect
anyone who considers himself or herself a writer to have a great deal of
expect for the English language (or whatever language one is using). I
would expect a writer to value careful use of language, careful
selection of words, and careful construction.

So when I read your post talking about the "PC movement" I can only
shake my head in wonder. "PC" has become a throwaway term, usually used
to dismiss viewpiont with which one disagrees by suggesting that the
person expressing that viewpoint is doing so out of some sort of
political expediency, not any personal conviction. A phrase like "PC
movement" (which I have never encountered before) is even more absurd;
is there actually a movement of people organizing around a philosophy
called "PC?"

: One of the biggest corporations in printed media calls me a writer, Mr.
: Whiteside, right on the face of the checks they send me--But I suppose
: you'd prefer to be the starving artist type who sneers at such
: commercialism.

I would never suggest that you shouldn't call yourself a writer.

But I would suggest that, as a writer, you avoid use of silly terms like
"PC;" that you think twice before using a phrase like "PC movement" and
consider what that phrase means and whether it refers to anything that
really exists; and finally, that you avoid silly personal attacks like
the last sentence quoted above, which reveal nothing more than your
ignorance of who I am and your inability to distinguish between things
that are relevant to the issue at hand (for example, the definition of
"PC") and things which are irrelevant (my personal income or philosphy).

Have a nice day!

| John Whiteside / South End, Boston, Massachusetts |
| jwhi...@lynx.neu.edu |
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From: kor...@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Kate Orman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WAS: Why the ruckus about a Black Vulcan?
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In article <3enuni$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> mrfo...@aol.com (MrFossil) writes:
>
>Boy, I know this ain't PC, but I think the green blood in a Vulcan would
>make them a little more purple tinged.
>
>But seriously folks, I AM really disappointed by the idea of a "Black"
>Vulcan. Roddenberry never had a problem with the race notion - Uhura and
>Kirk with the first interracial kiss on TV in the 60's no less, and the
>tell all about their relationship in Nichelle's book. If Roddenberry had
>intended to have races of color on Vulcan, doesn't anybody think he would
>have done that on TOS, or at least, in the early days of TNG.

Hey, Roddenberry wanted to have a female second officer on TOS - and he
didn't get to do that. Who knows what he would've thought of a black
Vulcan? He *was* very proud of having gotten Uhura onto the screen...

>I would say that this is another case of Berman and Co. sucking up to the
>bigs at Paramount.

The big *whats*?!

>Or, maybe Tuvok is from the equatorial region on Vulcan!

That makes more sense...

>Ladies and Gentlemen! Star Trek as we have known it, is dead - died with
>Master Roddenberry.

Star Trek as *you* know it, honey. :-) I watched a bunch of TOS over the
New Year weekend - I'd forgotten how little appeal it has for me, though
you've got to respect some of its groundbreaking stuff. For some of us,
TNG and DS9 *are* Star Trek.

--
Kate Orman
"You are endlessly agitating, unceasingly mischievous. Will you never
stop?" - Light, in Marc Platt's "Ghost Light", 1989
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From: la...@il.us.swissbank.com
Subject: Mid Atlantic Trench
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I had heard last year that there was to be some new exploration to be done in
the mid atlantic trench using some new type of submarine. Has anyone heard of
this project or any news about what's happening now?
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From: mur...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Raj Sarma )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Kukoc in All-Star?
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rdbe...@dal.mobil.com (Rachel) writes:

>In Article <D25D1...@sun2.iusb.indiana.edu>,
>aran...@sun1.sun1.iusb.indiana.edu (Anand) wrote:
>>Will Toni make the all-star game? I think he has stepped up and played
>>well enough to make it. Given the fact that BJ Armstrong made the all-star
>>for no apparent reason last year, I think Toni definitely should be there.
>>Anand
>>
>I agree with the above but I have a feeling that Kukoc won't make it.
>________________________
>The opinions are my own.
>________________________

It's too early for him to make a name for himself around the league. I would
really surprised if he doesn't make it next year. He needs to be more
consistant as a starter and prove himself more.

--
Rajan Sarma Da Bulls!! Da Cubs!!
Bio-engineering/LAS at UIUC Da Bears!! Da Hawks!!
CCSO ERL Site Manager Only MY Opinions Expressed!!
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From: ANDY.TE...@CRC.DOC.CA (Andy Tenne-Sens)
Subject: Windows Programs Start Only After 3 Minutes
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I have Warp on a 486-66V with 16 Meg, and a Soundblaster 16 card (it came
packaged with a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive).

The problem is that when I start up _any_ Windows program, Pulse shows
100% CPU activity for about 2 or 3 minutes, but nothing else happens. Then
three error messages come up regarding fixing the Wave, MIDI and FM
drivers (they look like Windows error messages intercepted by OS/2).
Finally, the Windows program loads and works OK.

A red herring:

I upgraded the Windows sound drivers by following the instructions
in the OS/2 on-line documentation (Information/Multimedia/Adding Windows
Audio Support/Soundblaster 16). This fixed the problem for all of
yesterday. But on turning on the computer this morning, I again had the
long delay from the time I clicked on the Word 2.0 icon until it loaded.
(For the first minute all I get is the OS/2's clock cursor.)

If anyone knows the solution, I'd really appreciate the help.

Thanks in advance.

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From: mu...@global.gc.net (August Branchesi)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: VERY Dissapointed !!! (with USR)
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I'm having the same problem with my sportster 28.8 as far as it hanging
up after being online for 10 minutes or so.

If you call USR tech support they act like they don't have any idea
what's going on...I come here and their are messages pasted ALL over
about it.

I expected MUCH more from USR. Since I bought the modem several months
ago, I can't return it. Sounds like another intel scheme.....

Would you believe I have a pentium too.....All the luck.

I did order the v.34 upgrade, but is this really going to correct the
problem ? I ordered it before christmas and it's been delayed ANOTHER
3-4 weeks. Is there something we can do about this ?

Thanks for letting me blow off some steam...

August Branchesi
[Victim of Murphy's/Intel's/USR's Law]

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From: de...@konishiki.Stanford.EDU (Denis Bohm)
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Subject: Re: fresco.html
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In article <1995Jan9.1...@alias.com>,
Paul Harding <phar...@alias.com> wrote:
>regarding accessing
> http://edinburgh.fujitsu.com:8000/Fresco.html
>Our system will only allow 80 or 8001 as valid channel
>numbers (?). Is there an alternative web address
>that uses the default of 80 for this?

The Fresco web pages will be moved to:

http://www.faslab.com

by the end of February. That server will be using the default
port number 80, so it should work for you. I will post to this
news group when the new site is available.

Denis
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From: mschu...@pbs.org (Maryanne Schuessler)
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Subject: AM WEATHER Clarification
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A clarification based on initial responses to the announcement
yesterday (1/10/95) that AM WEATHER was ceasing production on 2/3/95:

AM WEATHER is a production of Maryland Public Television; it is *not*
a PBS program.

The decision to stop producing AM WEATHER was made at Maryland Public TV
and was based on what their executives called, "changing broadcast realities."

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From: Keith Pickup <KPI...@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
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Subject: Re: Disk Serial Number- How??
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Stu...@diamonds.demon.co.uk (Stuart Smith) wrote:
>How do I retrieve the serial number of a disk using VB or API calls?
>
>TIA
>
>Stuart Smith

Stuart,

You can't. If you want it, I can give you a DLL I wrote that I keep adding to
that has the following functions in it:

Declare Function GetSerial& Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" (ByVal Drive$, ByVal DOSFormat$,
ByVal VolLabel$)
Declare Function PutSerial% Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" (ByVal Drive$, ByVal SerialNo&)
Declare Function GetFreeSpace& Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" (ByVal Drive$)
Declare Function GetTotalSpace& Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" (ByVal Drive$)
Declare Function ReadSector% Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" (ByVal Drive$, ByVal Buffer$,
ByVal SectorNumber&)
Declare Function WriteSector% Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" (ByVal Drive$, ByVal Buffer$,
ByVal SectorNumber&)
Declare Function IsCDROMDrive% Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" (ByVal Drive$)
Declare Function ShareLoaded% Lib "DISKUTIL.DLL" ()

Let me know and I'll send it to you.

Regards
Keith Pickup
SOFTERM (Australia)
kpi...@oz-email.com.au

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From: ste...@ivory.jpl.nasa.gov (Steve Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.piano
Subject: Re: CD software
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In article Delia...@p6.f333.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (Delia Stark) writes:
>I'm wondering if anyone else has tried the multimedia CD software by Microsoft
>(I have Schubert's "The Trout Quintet", Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, Mozart's
>Dissonant Quartet) and Vivaldi's Four Seasons by Ebook.

[balance snipped]

Got the Beethoven CD. A real work of art. Will tell you everything and more
that you would ever want to know about the 9th. I also recommend the
Microsoft Musical Instruments CD. Has hundreds of instruments from all over
the world. Sample movements, explainations of various ensembles, blow-ups
of instrument parts, ranges, etc. It is probably geared more for the "new
initiate" to music than people whoreally understand music and the instruments
used to make music. I have only been "exposed" to orchestral music for the
past two years or so and have found this CD to be a good aid in my education.
And it is fun too.

(I don't work for MS or any retail establishment, just a satisified user.)

Forgive me for diverging from the r.m.m.p "charter".
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From: beer...@starbase.neosoft.com (BeerLord _/\o/\_)
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Subject: FS: Tape Backup
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