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HP 4100DTN Duplex Problem

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Ron Wood

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Dec 3, 2009, 9:37:25 AM12/3/09
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Hi Group

Had one of these quite a while (several months) and it's worked fine.

Recently decided to add the extra tray and connect to my PC with a
Parallel/USB thingy.

Since then I have lost my Duplex capability.

Have played with different drivers - 4100 PCL 5e and 4100 PCL 6, but no
success, I don't even get the various Duplex options I had before.

HELP (please) - Google/HP site not too useful :-)

Regards, Ron


Ben Myers

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Dec 3, 2009, 11:35:09 AM12/3/09
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What about the PostScript driver? The 4000 series all have PostScript,
which tends to be more reliable than PCL, IMHO, especially when printing
complicated Acrobat PDFs. My 4000N has a duplexer, and the 4000
PostScript driver shows it in the properties.

It is also possible that the USB->parallel thingy (cable or USB hub) is
inhibiting proper communication with the printer, which MUST have
bidirectional communication to work correctly.

How was it connected previously? If you have any sort of network at
your place, I strongly recommend using a JetDirect card, and cabling the
printer to a switch or router. Mine has provided absolutely
trouble-free network printing among several computers, as well as a
friend's laptop when he visits here. JetDirect cards are cheap and
plentiful. The 4000 accepts any one of the JetDirect 600, 610, or 620,
with the higher numbers being newer.

... Ben Myers

Warren Block

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Dec 3, 2009, 12:33:00 PM12/3/09
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It kind of depends on which operating system, which you did not specify.

For Windows, sometimes you have to go into the driver (right-click
printer, select properties) and tell it what options are installed.

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

Ron Wood

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Dec 3, 2009, 3:38:07 PM12/3/09
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"Warren Block" <wbl...@wonkity.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for tips IT'S WORKING.

Had downloaded a couple of drivers, 5e and 6 (neither worked or gave me the
Duplex option), the HP site is not very clear in this area.

Re- installed (again) and let the installer find its own driver - which it
duly did.

Now have the proper Driver just called 4100 Series PCL.

Right clicked properties, chose to instal Duplex(er) and I am now a happy
bunny - THANKS guys.

Regards, Ron

Ben Myers

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:57:48 PM12/3/09
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Nobody ever accused HP of developing software that was intuitive to use.
The HP scanners are even more of a horror show... Ben Myers

Ron Wood

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:27:52 AM12/4/09
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"Ben Myers" <ben_...@charter.net> wrote in message
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I am fairly sure the Parallel / USB thingy needs a USB2 port by the way.


Ben Myers

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Dec 4, 2009, 9:36:28 AM12/4/09
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Even if someone had an early-early P4 or older computer with USB 1.0,
and the parallel->USB thingy managed to work, the throughput would be no
worse than a parallel-connected printer. This is all somewhat moot as
the old computers drop by the wayside, and USB 1.0-equipped computers
invariably have parallel ports. Of course, one can always add a PCI
parallel port card to a modern "legacy-free" computer without a parallel
port... Ben Myers

Warren Block

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:16:48 PM12/4/09
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Ron Wood <ronw...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I am fairly sure the Parallel / USB thingy needs a USB2 port by the way.

Unlikely; USB1.1 is plenty fast enough for parallel, and
forwards-compatible with USB2.

But this did make me look closer at the printer model. The 4100TN has
an Ethernet port. Why even bother with a USB-to-parallel converter?
It's like putting roller skates on a racehorse.

Ben Myers

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Dec 5, 2009, 1:30:28 AM12/5/09
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Warren Block wrote:
> Ron Wood <ronw...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am fairly sure the Parallel / USB thingy needs a USB2 port by the way.
>
> Unlikely; USB1.1 is plenty fast enough for parallel, and
> forwards-compatible with USB2.
>
> But this did make me look closer at the printer model. The 4100TN has
> an Ethernet port. Why even bother with a USB-to-parallel converter?
> It's like putting roller skates on a racehorse.
>

My point exactly, altho I like your metaphor... Ben Myers

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