HP DV6936us - dead 29 days after warranty expires
Justin
http://tinypic.com/r/n69r46/6
HP wanted $104 just to troubleshoot. Of course I talked to "Linda"
whose real name is Deependra Guptda Mukkalukkafukkachucka.
I plug the god damn thing in, and I get a blue pulsating light as seen
above.
I bought this for my mom last Christmas. Isn't that just wonderful?
Aren't I a good son?
No. I'm a terrible son, I should have bought her a fucking Mac - but
No, the HP was cheaper.
So let's run down the cost of this piece of shit.
$700 Original cost
$50 Shipping
$100 Tech "troubleshoot" cost
$150+ Repair labor (guestimate)
$160 Motherboard (per ebay)
$20 Power adapter (if that's the problem)
$1,180 Total
WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs her
own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
So the total comes to $2,180.
Where are the savings?
They wanted $100+ just to talk to me? How dare they. How can they
justify that? Doctors and Psychiatrists don't charge that much.
Plumbers don't charge that much for an on site service call, but these
douchebags want that much just to troubleshoot? I understand a change
for repair - but just to talk? Not even one hour of free phone time.
Call girls (not street walkers) run $200 for the first hour. So talking
to some stinky third world crusty chemical infested dumbass accented
Maheshwara worshiping thing; costs half as much as it would to nail a 21
year old model??!
One more Apple customer.
If I sold this on eBay I would get $400 for it. So I'm supposed to
spend 25% of the total cost just to talk to another Guptda
Mukkalukkafukkachucka so he can tell me I need to pay another $200 to
replace the board?
Last year when I called Apple for a problem with a MB 13" I talked to an
American. Had an RMA in ten minutes, box was sent to me the next day,
shipped to their repair center, and was returned in two more days. It
started on Monday, I had my machine back on Friday.
MuahMan
all, straight out of the box.
Justin
> Go buy the whorish old hag $4500 dollar 27" iMac. It won't work at
> all, straight out of the box.
But at least they'll honor the warranty. Quit while you're behind,
kiddo - you loose.
MuahMan
They won't honor the warranty. Since it's broken as soon as you open
it you'll just have to return. Most people get one that works on their
3rd or 4th try.
How much computing power can your mom need to run a brothel.
Justin
> On Dec 24, 4:27 pm, Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>> On 12/24/09 4:13 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>>
>>> Go buy the whorish old hag $4500 dollar 27" iMac. It won't work at
>>> all, straight out of the box.
>>
>> But at least they'll honor the warranty. Quit while you're behind,
>> kiddo - you loose.
>
> They won't honor the warranty. Since it's broken as soon as you open
> it you'll just have to return. Most people get one that works on their
> 3rd or 4th try.
Wrong. They honored my warranty a year after I bought the machine.
Stop making stuff up, its dangerous - you'll end up believing your own lies.
>
> How much computing power can your mom need to run a brothel.
Wow, that was profound - you have the mind of a child who was picked on
in high school. Let the grown ups talk.
News
> http://tinypic.com/r/n69r46/6
That's the Christmas spirit. The flipped digit...
MuahMan
> On 12/24/09 4:31 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>
> > On Dec 24, 4:27 pm, Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
> >> On 12/24/09 4:13 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>
> >>> Go buy the whorish old hag $4500 dollar 27" iMac. It won't work at
> >>> all, straight out of the box.
>
> >> But at least they'll honor the warranty. Quit while you're behind,
> >> kiddo - you loose.
>
> > They won't honor the warranty. Since it's broken as soon as you open
> > it you'll just have to return. Most people get one that works on their
> > 3rd or 4th try.
>
> Wrong. They honored my warranty a year after I bought the machine.
> Stop making stuff up, its dangerous - you'll end up believing your own lies.
You've had a 27" iMac for over a year?
Wait they fixed your Apple under warranty because it was a year old?
How come your Mac broke so quickly. Don't Macs just work?
If fact, if Macs just work. Why is there a class action suit against
with thousands of plantiffs claiming their brand new 27" iMacs
wouldn't work and Apple denied the the problem?
If Macs just work. Why sell Apple Care at all?
If Macs just work. Why do have a bunch of illiterate teenagers working
at the Moron Bar to fix all the problems. The Moron Bar is so back up
you have to make a reservation just to see someone. Then when you go,
you'll still have to wait in line behind a few hundred teenage girls
with braces trying to get pink covers for the iPod.
At least your Mom's HP made it more than a year and was OUT OF
WARRANTY when you brought it in.
Justin
> On Dec 24, 4:33 pm, Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>> On 12/24/09 4:31 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 4:27 pm, Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/09 4:13 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>>
>>>>> Go buy the whorish old hag $4500 dollar 27" iMac. It won't work at
>>>>> all, straight out of the box.
>>
>>>> But at least they'll honor the warranty. Quit while you're behind,
>>>> kiddo - you loose.
>>
>>> They won't honor the warranty. Since it's broken as soon as you open
>>> it you'll just have to return. Most people get one that works on their
>>> 3rd or 4th try.
>>
>> Wrong. They honored my warranty a year after I bought the machine.
>> Stop making stuff up, its dangerous - you'll end up believing your own lies.
>
> You've had a 27" iMac for over a year?
>
> Wait they fixed your Apple under warranty because it was a year old?
> How come your Mac broke so quickly. Don't Macs just work?
Ir was a year and a half old.
>
> If fact, if Macs just work. Why is there a class action suit against
> with thousands of plantiffs claiming their brand new 27" iMacs
> wouldn't work and Apple denied the the problem?
Shit happens. Look at the reliability surveys - if you can read.
>
> If Macs just work. Why sell Apple Care at all?
Again, because machines break - just like everything.
>
> If Macs just work. Why do have a bunch of illiterate teenagers working
> at the Moron Bar to fix all the problems. The Moron Bar is so back up
> you have to make a reservation just to see someone. Then when you go,
> you'll still have to wait in line behind a few hundred teenage girls
> with braces trying to get pink covers for the iPod.
As opposed to dirty punjabs in India charging customers $100 just to
talk? Is that tech support of Phone sex?
As for the teenage girls, that sounds like your dream come true.
>
> At least your Mom's HP made it more than a year and was OUT OF
> WARRANTY when you brought it in.
29 days, so that's how they stay in business? immediately after the
warranty they break? Is there a built in timer?
Justin
God damn right it is.
Justin
> http://tinypic.com/r/246vo6v/6
> http://tinypic.com/r/n69r46/6
>
New development!
The hard drive is bad too. It won't read. I put it in an external
reader - nothing - won't mount under OSX or Win7. Yes, I put another
drive int he reader and it works fine.
Isn't that just great?
Pure HP PC quality!
News
> On 12/24/09 4:09 PM, Justin wrote:
>> http://tinypic.com/r/246vo6v/6
>> http://tinypic.com/r/n69r46/6
>>
>
>
> New development!
> The hard drive is bad too. It won't read. I put it in an external
> reader - nothing - won't mount under OSX or Win7.
Wow, Mom really pooched that box, eh?
MuahMan
If Machines just break.... like your P.O.S. Mac.... in less than a
year. Why are you complaining about the HP that lasted longer than
your P.O.S. Mac. Make up your mind your circular arguing fuckstick.
The Apple you paid 3x broke faster than the HP. LOL
News
At least he's consistent -- consistently clueless.
MuahMan
Yeah, the part he left out was she probably dropped thing on the floor
in Meth induced stupor. Big deal, he had to come up from the basement
to help her out.
Justin
My Mac is still going strong after a year.
My 15" MBP was bought around the same time.
Look at what you just said, the HP is broken - the Mac is going strong
yet somehow the Apple is the POS?
Explain.
Justin
You're confused.
The HP is broke. My first MB had a problem with the Bluetooth - fixed
under warranty in three days.
The HP is completely dead - as in unusable. The pubjab HP call girl
wanted $100. The only time I give a girl who won't give me her real
name $100 is if if cum at the end.
News
Aha. So your name is "John", not Justin.
MuahMan
You said, "Wrong. They honored my warranty a year after I bought the
machine. " Which means you brought it in for warranty. Unless that
was a fib. Which it like was judging from your back to back posts.
LOL!
Busted.
News
"John"
ROFLMAO
Justin
and now you resort to the straw man approach to winning an argument;
because you can't debate the real facts.
You'll get far with that attitude.
Justin
the Mac was still usable - try to follow along. It was the bluetooth
that quit - thats what was covered under warranty.
MuahMan
So it would have been free if you weren't impotent. Seems like your
problem to me.
Justin
She can call out whatever name she wants.
You mom called out Robert - I think she was pretending I was Robert Redford.
Either way, I wore two jimmy hats.
News
To match your tinfoil hats...
Jim
I purchased a first-gen G5 iMac for my Son when he went to HS. It had three of the same probs., the MB died once, the
mid-plane the other and the third, Apple replaced it with a current model iMac intel that has performed flawlessly.
Yeah I had AppleCare, but because it was a first-gen G5, no other reason.
Oh, and the mid-plane, that was the first problem and I got on a live chat and the tech sent us the part(Apple had user
service thing then) so my then 11 year old Son took the iMac apart and installed the mid-plane. That's how modular the
iMac G5 was.
--
Jim
Maurice
"Jim" <j...@NOSpaMync.net> wrote in message
news:jim-0174C4.1...@news.newsguy.com...
They were really good machines. Too bad Apple opted to obsolete them.
Steve de Mena
> whose real name is Deependra Guptda Mukkalukkafukkachucka.
> I plug the god damn thing in, and I get a blue pulsating light as seen
> above.
>
> I bought this for my mom last Christmas. Isn't that just wonderful?
> Aren't I a good son?
> No. I'm a terrible son, I should have bought her a fucking Mac - but
> No, the HP was cheaper.
> So let's run down the cost of this piece of shit.
>
> $700 Original cost
> $50 Shipping
> $100 Tech "troubleshoot" cost
> $150+ Repair labor (guestimate)
> $160 Motherboard (per ebay)
> $20 Power adapter (if that's the problem)
> $1,180 Total
>
> WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs her
> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
> So the total comes to $2,180.
>
> Where are the savings?
>
> They wanted $100+ just to talk to me? How dare they. How can they
> justify that? Doctors and Psychiatrists don't charge that much.
> Plumbers don't charge that much for an on site service call, but these
> douchebags want that much just to troubleshoot? I understand a change
> for repair - but just to talk? Not even one hour of free phone time.
> Call girls (not street walkers) run $200 for the first hour. So talking
> to some stinky third world crusty chemical infested dumbass accented
> Maheshwara worshiping thing; costs half as much as it would to nail a 21
> year old model??!
>
> One more Apple customer.
>
> If I sold this on eBay I would get $400 for it. So I'm supposed to
> spend 25% of the total cost just to talk to another Guptda
> Mukkalukkafukkachucka so he can tell me I need to pay another $200 to
> replace the board?
>
>
> Last year when I called Apple for a problem with a MB 13" I talked to an
> American. Had an RMA in ten minutes, box was sent to me the next day,
> shipped to their repair center, and was returned in two more days. It
> started on Monday, I had my machine back on Friday.
You called apple while it was UNDER WARRANTY. You are comparing
apples and oranges here.
Why didn't you spring for a 3 year HP warranty, typically onsite NBD
after phone troubleshooting, if this machine is critical for a business?
I'd Google your problems first & see if there is an easy solution,
like new power supply.
Steve
Steve de Mena
Honor the warranty?
You said it is 29 days after warranty expiration.
Steve
Steve de Mena
Yes, and when you activate your warranty when you get the machine you
are told EXACTLY what date the warranty expires. There is no surprise
here.
Steve
Steve de Mena
Right, these are special "HP" drives that have a different failure
rate than "Apple" drives.
Steve
Steve de Mena
Your racist statements are really classy.
Steve
Justin
It was two expensive. Getting the three year "limited" warranty would
have brought the pricing above $1,000.
>
> I'd Google your problems first & see if there is an easy solution, like
> new power supply.
>
> Steve
Already hit google - it told me nothing other than the DV series is an
utter disaster. Now they tell me.
The power supply would not explain the dead hard drive. Where do I get
another power supply? Pull it out of my ass? Order one off eBay in
case it *might* be the problem? What if it isn? Put it back on ebay
and waste more money?
Justin
I'm not trying to be classy; I'm trying to be practical.
I have an MBA so I understand cost savings. Outsourcing to that fucked
up caste system country is being a cheapskate. Thanks Mike Dell -
that's your contribution to American business.
Justin
I have pills for that.
Justin
A whole month. When I worked in service I would talk to the customer
and figure out what was wrong without charging the - one hour then I
started charging.
But these fucks just don't care.
less than one month out of warranty and it dies - that is utterly
unacceptable no matter how you look at it.
Justin
11 years old and he fixed the computer. That's actually pretty kickass.
MuahMan
> On 12/24/09 7:27 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
It might be, if it were true.
Steve de Mena
All warranties are "limited" - why the quotes?
I bet that warranty doesn't look "two" expensive now. I made the same
mistake with my Mac Pro and paid for it by having to buy two graphics
cards out of my own pocket.
Steve
Justin
So you think its a fantasy - like your years of PC experience?
Justin
Because limited in PC speak means, if they feel like replacing it that
day. I had Dell reject a warranty repair because they said it was due
to static discharge. How exactly one can tell a toasted board is due to
static is beyond me.
Whereas the Apple Bluetooth issue was fixed faster than I expected.
News
> But these fucks just don't care.
> less than one month out of warranty and it dies - that is utterly
> unacceptable no matter how you look at it.
>
It's a conspiracy, I tell ya....
News
Hey, YOU'RE the self-proclaimed "MBA". Figure it out. Optimize it!
News
Take a double dose. You and Rush Limpdick.
Maurice
"Justin" <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message
news:hh0ppm$g1o$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
So why are you bitching about your imaginary HP?
Frank Slootweg
> WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs her
> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
"downtime"? "business"? You bought a *consumer* *entertainment*
*notebook*, *without* extended warranty! How clueless can you get!?
"MBA"? I don't think so!
Justin
Yeah, because all MBA programs have "Shitty PC selling & buying 201"
Wow, you're a complete tool. How do you live with yourself knowing
every single day one more person will hate you?
When did your parents start hating you?
Justin
> Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>
>> WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs her
>> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
>
Fixed.
Tim Murray
> On 12/24/09 4:09 PM, Justin wrote:
>
> New development!
> The hard drive is bad too. It won't read. I put it in an external
> reader - nothing - won't mount under OSX or Win7. Yes, I put another
> drive int he reader and it works fine.
> Isn't that just great?
> Pure HP PC quality!
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/2djxojk/6
Do you have NTFS support enabled? Is it I heard the beta versions had it
enabled, but shipping version did not ... you have to enable it.
Justin
Did you see the video?
How do you figure its imaginary? Honest question.
Are you blind as well as stupid? Did I search teh intarnetz for these
specific videos?
Its not like you have any industry or job experience so why is this so
hard for you to believe?
I replaced the battery and AC adapter and this is the result.
Yes, I let the battery charge.
Here's a video of the ficticious HP next to the ficticious Macbook Pro,
on the ficticious desk taken by a fictitious camera.
How do you 'Dozers put up with this kind of quality? Can't you afford
an Apple? Are you the kind of asshole who buys a Dodge Caliber, brags
and buys another one every year?
Are you so set in your ways you refuse to learn something new? You'll
get really far with that attitude.
Justin
Leopard and SL have NTFS readability support enabled by default.
As illustrated int he video - the NTFS drive mounts perfectly, the HP
drive does not.
Justin
Would it surprise you I voted for Obama?
Steve de Mena
The HP drive was probably dropped and damaged.
Steve
Frank Slootweg
And restored:
> > "downtime"? "business"? You bought a *consumer* *entertainment*
> > *notebook*, *without* extended warranty! How clueless can you get!?
> >
> > "MBA"? I don't think so!
These clowns are SO predictable. When confronted with their own
cluelessness, they can only resort to post-editing.
QED. HTH. HAND. EOD. NI.
Fred Winter
> Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>> On 12/25/09 11:28 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs her
>>>> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
>>> I don't think!
>> Fixed.
>
> And restored:
>
>>> "downtime"? "business"? You bought a *consumer* *entertainment*
>>> *notebook*, *without* extended warranty! How clueless can you get!?
>>>
>>> "MBA"? I don't think so!
>
> These clowns are SO predictable. When confronted with their own
> cluelessness, they can only resort to post-editing.
>
> QED. HTH. HAND. EOD. NI.
Relax, everyone. Be patient.
It will all be better when they get out of third grade.
MuahMan
> Would it surprise you I voted for Obama?
As stupid as you are? No, it wouldn't surprise me at all. I can tell
by your stupidity that you need the government to take care of you.
Not that they will....
Justin
Would it also surprise you that I have a concealed carry permit?
First you make fun of liberals, then conservatives. I think you're
losing your marbles.
Justin
> Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>> On 12/25/09 11:28 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs her
>>>> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
>>>
>>> I don't think!
>>
>> Fixed.
>
> And restored:
and now we have another nymshifter.
I'm sorry did you say something about predictability?
Justin
do you see any evidence of damage to the outside of the (laptop's) case?
or is the HP case made from a speciall UFO type material that doesn't
get damages.
Fa-groon
(in article <hh3b12$jv3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>):
Ah, our great Marxist hope! I voted for him too, a decision that I am
starting to regret. He is nowhere near as left-wing as he seemed before the
election, and he also seems to be fairly incompetent, and in spite of his
Democratic Congress, almost totally ineffectual.
Justin
actually I agree.
I would have liked to have seen a McCain presidency. a war with Iran
and north Korea would have been beautiful. With the 65,000 US deaths in
the first two years a draft would have been necessary.
In which case I would have dodged it - of course. :)
Probably via bribes. The Amalfi coast would have been my new stomping
grounds.
MuahMan
> On 12/25/09 6:34 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Would it surprise you I voted for Obama?
>
> > As stupid as you are? No, it wouldn't surprise me at all. I can tell
> > by your stupidity that you need the government to take care of you.
> > Not that they will....
>
> Would it also surprise you that I have a concealed carry permit?
>
Justin
those from DC and New Jersey.
Priam
> http://tinypic.com/r/246vo6v/6
> http://tinypic.com/r/n69r46/6
>
> HP wanted $104 just to troubleshoot. Of course I talked to "Linda" whose
> real name is Deependra Guptda Mukkalukkafukkachucka.
> I plug the god damn thing in, and I get a blue pulsating light as seen
> above.
>
> I bought this for my mom last Christmas. Isn't that just wonderful?
> Aren't I a good son?
> No. I'm a terrible son, I should have bought her a fucking Mac - but No,
> the HP was cheaper.
> So let's run down the cost of this piece of shit.
>
> $700 Original cost
> $50 Shipping
> $100 Tech "troubleshoot" cost
> $150+ Repair labor (guestimate)
> $160 Motherboard (per ebay)
> $20 Power adapter (if that's the problem)
> $1,180 Total
>
> business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
>
> Where are the savings?
>
> They wanted $100+ just to talk to me? How dare they. How can they
> justify that? Doctors and Psychiatrists don't charge that much. Plumbers
> don't charge that much for an on site service call, but these douchebags
> want that much just to troubleshoot? I understand a change for repair -
> but just to talk? Not even one hour of free phone time.
> Call girls (not street walkers) run $200 for the first hour. So talking
> to some stinky third world crusty chemical infested dumbass accented
> Maheshwara worshiping thing; costs half as much as it would to nail a 21
> year old model??!
>
> One more Apple customer.
>
> If I sold this on eBay I would get $400 for it. So I'm supposed to spend
> 25% of the total cost just to talk to another Guptda
> Mukkalukkafukkachucka so he can tell me I need to pay another $200 to
> replace the board?
>
>
> Last year when I called Apple for a problem with a MB 13" I talked to an
> American. Had an RMA in ten minutes, box was sent to me the next day,
> shipped to their repair center, and was returned in two more days. It
> started on Monday, I had my machine back on Friday.
Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. There's never any problem with Macs:
Apple fixes them all. Look:
http://www.google.ca/search?&q=macbook+problems
5,430,000 entries, English and French
See also:
http://www.appledefects.com/?cat=6
And I don't pretend PC do any better. When computers are subjected to
falls, knocks, heat and cold, humidity, spills, etc. it's never much
good for them.
That's why I say desktops are best. And if it happens that your desktop
is a standard PC, you just unscrew 2 bolts and see what going on. For
memory tests, you don't even have to open it!
If you really need a computer to go to school or travel, then, the best
is a NetBook, preferably with a free fall sensor or, better yet, an SSD
drive.
If something goes wrong, well, you can bring it to a specialized local
repair shop. You can get an estimate for, roughly, $35 - $50, often
deductible from repairs.
If you're used to working in electronics and have at least a soldering
iron at hand, there are instructions all over the net on how to open the
little machines. That's not for the faint of heart...
Another option is to buy a prolonged guarantee. They're expensive...
Any way you put it, Macs or PCs, laptops and netbooks are more failure
prone. If you're stupid enough to pay $104 for support from Linda in
India, what can I say, it's you're problem, dummy.
Please, don't make me cry :)
Fa-groon
(in article <hh3ors$ss0$1...@news.eternal-september.org>):
Can't blame you there. When I lived in England, I used to nip down to Italy
almost every chance I got and loved it when the band had a gig there.
Steve de Mena
Those in California, where they don't issue them unless you're really
connected.
Steve
Frank Slootweg
such an 'advocate'.]
Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
> On 12/25/09 5:09 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
> >> On 12/25/09 11:28 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >>> Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs her
> >>>> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
> >>>
> >>> I don't think!
> >>
> >> Fixed.
> >
> > And restored:
And restored again:
> > > > "downtime"? "business"? You bought a *consumer*
> > > > *entertainment* *notebook*, *without* extended warranty! How
> > > > clueless can you get!?
> > > >
> > > > "MBA"? I don't think so!
> >
> > These clowns are SO predictable. When confronted with their own
> > cluelessness, they can only resort to post-editing.
> >
> > QED. HTH. HAND. EOD. NI.
> and now we have another nymshifter.
"nymshifter"!? What the heck are you talking about!? I didn't shift my
'nym' (nor my 'address'). Or does your cluelessness extend to your
killfile?
> I'm sorry did you say something about predictability?
Yes, yours. Thanks for complying.
Ben Myers
This could be the longest running thread of useless drivel ever. And I
am proud to contribute my two cents to it... Ben
Atrazine
"Justin" <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message
news:hh0ppm$g1o$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
So why are you bitching about your old used up HP? You just admitted that
"machines break - like everything else". Maybe you're one of those jerks
who complains about everything. Get a life.
Maurice
What are you bitching about? We have two wars going now with an expansion
on the way.
Maurice
Actually, I have gotten far - very far. Now the problem is how to get far
from you and your ilk. Trouble is - you all are like roaches at the trough.
Maurice
"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:7pkrgd...@mid.individual.net...
The guy is only trolling. And you are taking the bait.
ZnU
Fa-groon <fa-g...@mad.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:32:18 -0800, Justin wrote
> (in article <hh3b12$jv3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>):
>
> > On 12/25/09 8:35 AM, News wrote:
[snip]
> >> Take a double dose. You and Rush Limpdick.
> >
> > Would it surprise you I voted for Obama?
>
> Ah, our great Marxist hope! I voted for him too, a decision that I am
> starting to regret. He is nowhere near as left-wing as he seemed before the
> election, and he also seems to be fairly incompetent, and in spite of his
> Democratic Congress, almost totally ineffectual.
I think you might be paying a little too much attention to the 24 hour
news media, which tends not to understand how things get done in DC or
the pace at which actual politics works. They became a little too used
to how things worked under Bush, where everything was very top down, was
oversimplified, and Congress was, for the most part, just a rubber stamp.
If things unfold the way it looks like they will, in a couple of months
Obama can claim credit for bringing the economy back from the brink of
disaster, creating a new regulatory regime for the financial industry to
help prevent future shenanigans, and signing the most sweeping health
care legislation in 40 years into law. That set of accomplishments alone
would be enough to declare his first term a success, but he's also going
to go on to try for an extremely ambitious climate change bill as well.
It is true that some of this legislation has required serious
compromises. In particular, the health care bill Obama eventually signs
is unlikely to contain a public option. But remember, a public option
passed in the House, and Obama would have been more than willing to sign
that bill. The public option died in the Senate, where anti-majoritarian
internal rules have allowed a handful of conservative Democrats (the
mainstream media calls them "centrists" or "moderates", but issue polls
put them to the right of the American public on health care) to wield
far too much control over the process.
The White House could have tried to push back in the Senate, but this
likely would have involved expending substantial political capital to no
benefit. It might have even been counterproductive. Joe Lieberman, for
instance, currently has a very contentious relationship with actual
Democrats generally and with Obama specifically (Lieberman supported
McCain and has basically announced he'll support a Republican in 2012)
and might have simply dug in in opposition if too much pressure had been
applied -- and that alone could have killed reform dead in the Senate.
Of course the way our political system works, when conservative
Democrats work together with Republicans to prevent popular progressive
legislation, instead of voting out conservative Democrats, people
perceive the Democrats for being ineffective and vote for more
Republicans, who make everything even worse. Neat, huh?
--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
Frank Slootweg
Nope. He lacks the qualities needed to (be a) troll.
I also wrote (and you snipped (why?)):
> QED. HTH. HAND. EOD. NI.
Quess what the 'I' means?
Fa-groon
(in article <znu-56CF94.1...@Port80.Individual.NET>):
> In article <0001HW.C75A9BB3...@news.giganews.com>,
> Fa-groon <fa-g...@mad.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:32:18 -0800, Justin wrote
>> (in article <hh3b12$jv3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>
>>> On 12/25/09 8:35 AM, News wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> Take a double dose. You and Rush Limpdick.
>>>
>>> Would it surprise you I voted for Obama?
>>
>> Ah, our great Marxist hope! I voted for him too, a decision that I am
>> starting to regret. He is nowhere near as left-wing as he seemed before the
>> election, and he also seems to be fairly incompetent, and in spite of his
>> Democratic Congress, almost totally ineffectual.
>
> I think you might be paying a little too much attention to the 24 hour
> news media, which tends not to understand how things get done in DC or
> the pace at which actual politics works. They became a little too used
> to how things worked under Bush, where everything was very top down, was
> oversimplified, and Congress was, for the most part, just a rubber stamp.
No, you misunderstand me. My main disappointment with Obama is that he told
everyone (through his books) that he was a dedicated Marxist. I expected to
see some real movement in that direction. Other than a half-ass attempt to
nationalize the auto industry and bailing out some banks, he doesn't seem
very Marxist to me.
Maurice
"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
I disagree. He lacks the qualities to be a GOOD troll. But I'll say this;
his new sock has actually progressed.
> I also wrote (and you snipped (why?)):
>
>> QED. HTH. HAND. EOD. NI.
I snipped it because I don't know what it means.
Justin
So?
the casualties are low enough to stay off the public's radar.
Justin
Yes - buying a PC was a mistake.
It was brand new from HP - not used.
Justin
Yes, you got to usenet - that's far.
you're confused - PCs are like roaches. Since there's more of the they
MUST be superior! We've been over this.
Justin
All I'm doing is education people about HP quality and service.
This way when they google it - they'll see this awesome thread and get
another brand.
I'm doing my part.
Justin
Airbook.
>
> If something goes wrong, well, you can bring it to a specialized local
> repair shop. You can get an estimate for, roughly, $35 - $50, often
> deductible from repairs.
Yeah, let the Geek Squad and their 12 year old kids running the Pokemon
screen saver.
>
> If you're used to working in electronics and have at least a soldering
> iron at hand, there are instructions all over the net on how to open the
> little machines. That's not for the faint of heart...
>
> Another option is to buy a prolonged guarantee. They're expensive...
>
> Any way you put it, Macs or PCs, laptops and netbooks are more failure
Not exactly. The unibody case on the Macbooks are more durable. Thats
the problem with the HP. It isn't solid - its built like an old Chrysler.
The parts move, ribbon cables fray and short out. The Unibodies simply
don't do that.
> prone. If you're stupid enough to pay $104 for support from Linda in
> India, what can I say, it's you're problem, dummy.
>
> Please, don't make me cry :)
I didn't pay $104 to talk to that punjab; but others will. HP is taking
advantage of their customers - something you just don't do.
I'm selling this heap for parts on eBay and replacing it with a MBP 15.
Frank Slootweg
>
> "Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7pn3ip...@mid.individual.net...
> > Maurice <Mauric...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:7pkrgd...@mid.individual.net...
> >> > Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 12/25/09 11:28 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >> >> > Justin<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> WOW! So tell me... How should I quantify the downtime? She runs
> >> >> >> her
> >> >> >> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't think!
> >> >>
> >> >> Fixed.
> >> >
> >> > And restored:
> >> >
> >> >> > "downtime"? "business"? You bought a *consumer* *entertainment*
> >> >> > *notebook*, *without* extended warranty! How clueless can you get!?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "MBA"? I don't think so!
> >> >
> >> > These clowns are SO predictable. When confronted with their own
> >> > cluelessness, they can only resort to post-editing.
> >>
> >> The guy is only trolling. And you are taking the bait.
> >
> > Nope. He lacks the qualities needed to (be a) troll.
>
> I disagree. He lacks the qualities to be a GOOD troll.
We're saying the same thing, but IMO a bad troll just isn't a troll.
> But I'll say this;
> his new sock has actually progressed.
>
> > I also wrote (and you snipped (why?)):
> >
> >> QED. HTH. HAND. EOD. NI.
>
> I snipped it because I don't know what it means.
Then you probably shouldn't tell others that they're being trolled and
taking the bait.
<http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com>
<http://www.acronymfinder.com>
ZnU
Fa-groon <fa-g...@mad.com> wrote:
I can't speak to your bizarre interpretations of Obama's books. From
where I'm sitting, he presented himself during the campaign as a
pragmatic center-left politician and has governed as one. Those on the
right insisting he's some kind of socialist are essentially just making
things up, and those on the left who are shocked that he's not more
liberal were clearly assuming he was what they wanted him to be, rather
than actually listening to his policy positions. (The latter is
particularly obvious with respect to e.g. his Afghanistan policy. Some
on the left appear to have assumed Obama was some sort of pacifist,
because he opposed the Iraq war, despite repeated statements on his part
to the effect that he didn't oppose all wars, just bad wars.)
Justin
Sphincter says what?
Priam
>> If you really need a computer to go to school or travel, then, the best
>> is a NetBook, preferably with a free fall sensor or, better yet, an SSD
>> drive.
>
> Airbook.
http://www.google.ca/search?&q=airbook+OR%C2%A0%22MacBook+Air%22+problem+-%22no+problem
637,000 English and French
And it's not a com,puter that sold much.
>> If something goes wrong, well, you can bring it to a specialized local
>> repair shop. You can get an estimate for, roughly, $35 - $50, often
>> deductible from repairs.
>
> Yeah, let the Geek Squad and their 12 year old kids running the Pokemon
> screen saver.
Not the Geek Squad, Moron! There are some shops that specialize in laptops.
> Not exactly. The unibody case on the Macbooks are more durable. Thats
> the problem with the HP. It isn't solid - its built like an old Chrysler.
> The parts move, ribbon cables fray and short out.
Yeah, it's awful, they bend and warp and twist and shout a lot. Big
problem. Sure you haven't been brainwashed recently?
>> prone. If you're stupid enough to pay $104 for support from Linda in
>> India, what can I say, it's you're problem, dummy.
>>
>> Please, don't make me cry :)
>
> I didn't pay $104 to talk to that punjab; but others will. HP is taking
> advantage of their customers - something you just don't do.
>
> I'm selling this heap for parts on eBay and replacing it with a MBP 15.
I'm sure you'll be glad. This time, you'll be had from the onset. :)
Bye, have fun!
MuahMan
> In article <0001HW.C75BB58A000C496CF0184...@news.giganews.com>,> > (in article <znu-56CF94.13253426122...@Port80.Individual.NET>):
>
> > > In article <0001HW.C75A9BB3001E26D9F0184...@news.giganews.com>,> > >> (in article <hh3b12$jv...@news.eternal-september.org>):
If he opposed the Iraq war I wonder why voted in favor of it.
David Fritzinger
<45a3e978-f379-4081...@j42g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:
When did he vote in favor of it?
News
> On 12/25/09 8:35 AM, News wrote:
>>> On 12/24/09 7:15 PM, MuahMan wrote:
>>>> On Dec 24, 7:06 pm, News<N...@Groups.Name> wrote:
>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/24/09 6:29 PM, News wrote:
>>>>>>>> year. Why are you complaining about the HP that lasted longer than
>>>>>>>> your P.O.S. Mac. Make up your mind your circular arguing fuckstick.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Apple you paid 3x broke faster than the HP. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least he's consistent -- consistently clueless.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You're confused.
>>>>>> The HP is broke. My first MB had a problem with the Bluetooth - fixed
>>>>>> under warranty in three days.
>>>>>> The HP is completely dead - as in unusable. The pubjab HP call girl
>>>>>> wanted $100. The only time I give a girl who won't give me her real
>>>>>> name $100 is if if cum at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aha. So your name is "John", not Justin.
>>>>
>>>> So it would have been free if you weren't impotent. Seems like your
>>>> problem to me.
>>>
>>> I have pills for that.
>>
>>
>
> Would it surprise you I voted for Obama?
So what? To the best of my knowledge, Barack doesn't need the little
blue pill.
Fa-groon
(in article <znu-1FA6AE.1...@Port80.Individual.NET>):
I actually read both "Dreams of my Father" and "The Audacity of Hope". In
both he does everything but come right out and say that he's a Marxist. If
that's a bizarre interpretation, then a lot of people have made the same one.
Look, the world will eventually turn to Marxism as the only way that an
enlightened society can move forward. I'm committed to that goal and I
thought Obama was as well. I'm disappointed and I now believe that Obama is
headed for a one-term Presidency. Too bad, he showed a lot of promise.
News
> On 12/25/09 8:35 AM, News wrote:
>>> On 12/24/09 8:46 PM, Steve de Mena wrote:
>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>> http://tinypic.com/r/246vo6v/6
>>>>> http://tinypic.com/r/n69r46/6
>>>>>
>>>>> HP wanted $104 just to troubleshoot. Of course I talked to "Linda"
>>>>> whose real name is Deependra Guptda Mukkalukkafukkachucka.
>>>>> I plug the god damn thing in, and I get a blue pulsating light as seen
>>>>> above.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bought this for my mom last Christmas. Isn't that just wonderful?
>>>>> Aren't I a good son?
>>>>> No. I'm a terrible son, I should have bought her a fucking Mac - but
>>>>> No, the HP was cheaper.
>>>>> So let's run down the cost of this piece of shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> $700 Original cost
>>>>> $50 Shipping
>>>>> $100 Tech "troubleshoot" cost
>>>>> $150+ Repair labor (guestimate)
>>>>> $160 Motherboard (per ebay)
>>>>> $20 Power adapter (if that's the problem)
>>>>> $1,180 Total
>>>>>
>>>>> own business. I'll make up a number. $1,000
>>>>>
>>>>> Where are the savings?
>>>>>
>>>>> They wanted $100+ just to talk to me? How dare they. How can they
>>>>> justify that? Doctors and Psychiatrists don't charge that much.
>>>>> Plumbers don't charge that much for an on site service call, but these
>>>>> douchebags want that much just to troubleshoot? I understand a change
>>>>> for repair - but just to talk? Not even one hour of free phone time.
>>>>> Call girls (not street walkers) run $200 for the first hour. So
>>>>> talking to some stinky third world crusty chemical infested dumbass
>>>>> accented Maheshwara worshiping thing; costs half as much as it would
>>>>> to nail a 21 year old model??!
>>>>>
>>>>> One more Apple customer.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I sold this on eBay I would get $400 for it. So I'm supposed to
>>>>> spend 25% of the total cost just to talk to another Guptda
>>>>> Mukkalukkafukkachucka so he can tell me I need to pay another $200 to
>>>>> replace the board?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Last year when I called Apple for a problem with a MB 13" I talked to
>>>>> an American. Had an RMA in ten minutes, box was sent to me the next
>>>>> day, shipped to their repair center, and was returned in two more
>>>>> days. It started on Monday, I had my machine back on Friday.
>>>>
>>>> and oranges here.
>>>>
>>>> Why didn't you spring for a 3 year HP warranty, typically onsite NBD
>>>> after phone troubleshooting, if this machine is critical for a
>>>> business?
>>>
>>> It was two expensive. Getting the three year "limited" warranty would
>>> have brought the pricing above $1,000.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd Google your problems first & see if there is an easy solution, like
>>>> new power supply.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Already hit google - it told me nothing other than the DV series is an
>>> utter disaster. Now they tell me.
>>> The power supply would not explain the dead hard drive. Where do I get
>>> another power supply? Pull it out of my ass? Order one off eBay in
>>> case it *might* be the problem? What if it isn? Put it back on ebay
>>> and waste more money?
>>
>> Hey, YOU'RE the self-proclaimed "MBA". Figure it out. Optimize it!
>
> Yeah, because all MBA programs have "Shitty PC selling & buying 201"
Turn in your "MBA". You learned nothing, you're unadaptable, you're
finished.
Justin
> On 12/26/2009 04:22 PM, Justin wrote:
>
>>> If you really need a computer to go to school or travel, then, the best
>>> is a NetBook, preferably with a free fall sensor or, better yet, an SSD
>>> drive.
>>
>> Airbook.
>
> http://www.google.ca/search?&q=airbook+OR%C2%A0%22MacBook+Air%22+problem+-%22no+problem
>
>
> 637,000 English and French
>
> And it's not a com,puter that sold much.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=HP+problem&aq=f&aqi=g10&oq=&fp=b36c7832dbb01be6
131,000,000 that's alot!
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=HP+dv+series+problem&aq=f&aqi=g1&oq=&fp=b36c7832dbb01be6
2,270,000 - that's still alot!
>
>>> If something goes wrong, well, you can bring it to a specialized local
>>> repair shop. You can get an estimate for, roughly, $35 - $50, often
>>> deductible from repairs.
>>
>> Yeah, let the Geek Squad and their 12 year old kids running the Pokemon
>> screen saver.
>
> Not the Geek Squad, Moron! There are some shops that specialize in laptops.
Yeah, no shit. They can charge me $120 for labor and another $256.
Considering the present value of the laptop if $400 that sounds like an
awesome deal. Thanks!
>
>> Not exactly. The unibody case on the Macbooks are more durable. Thats
>> the problem with the HP. It isn't solid - its built like an old Chrysler.
>> The parts move, ribbon cables fray and short out.
>
> Yeah, it's awful, they bend and warp and twist and shout a lot. Big
> problem. Sure you haven't been brainwashed recently?
yeah, I'm sure. The Unibod don't do that - because they are "uni" Get
it? As in one piece.
Find a diagram or service manual.
>
>>> prone. If you're stupid enough to pay $104 for support from Linda in
>>> India, what can I say, it's you're problem, dummy.
>>>
>>> Please, don't make me cry :)
>>
>> I didn't pay $104 to talk to that punjab; but others will. HP is taking
>> advantage of their customers - something you just don't do.
>>
>> I'm selling this heap for parts on eBay and replacing it with a MBP 15.
>
> I'm sure you'll be glad. This time, you'll be had from the onset. :)
>
> Bye, have fun!
From the onset? I guess thats why Apple still renks the highest in
customer satisfaction and reliability despite the trolls?
Maybe I should go Linus and but a Dell! That way I can pay $150 for
Windows and then delete it off the machine. Yes, the Microsoft tax is
perfect. Unfortunately that doesn't solve the wire fraying issue.
Fa-groon
(in article <hh5u14$qt5$5...@news.eternal-september.org>):
Am I the only one who picked up on this? "Now the problem is how to get far
from you and your ilk." All you gotta do, Muah, is STOP POSTING HERE. There,
done, problem solved!
Justin
WOW!
You just cant' stop lying! You have a real problem. Honestly, that's a
psychological problem.
Obama wasn't int he senate when the Iraq war vote went though.
Justin
Is that a fact? I guarantee I own you in terms of business knowledge,
law and computers.
What do you do? Post here all day? I dae you to stop playing Warcraft
for three days.
ZnU
Fa-groon <fa-g...@mad.com> wrote:
Mostly right-wing lunatics. You're about the only person I've ever run
across who claims to have believed Obama was a Marxist and is
disappointed that he's not.
> Look, the world will eventually turn to Marxism as the only way that an
> enlightened society can move forward. I'm committed to that goal and I
> thought Obama was as well. I'm disappointed and I now believe that Obama is
> headed for a one-term Presidency. Too bad, he showed a lot of promise.
Because he's not enough of a Marxist? Yeah, so you're just trolling.
MuahMan
You use a Mac by choice. Which means you don't know shit about
anything and have NEVER had a job. Obama is a Marxist. He just can't
say it out loud yet as it would start the 2nd American Civil War. I
wish he would say it.
News
"Guarantee"? You've just lost.
Maurice
"So"? So your getting what you wanted.
> the casualties are low enough to stay off the public's radar.
So what is it you want? 65,000 deaths?
Maurice
They have been here for 220 million years. They are going to eat you after
you're dead. They'll probably outlast man. You really are a sad dunce.
Maurice
"Frank Slootweg" <th...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
Why is the truth distastful?
>
> <http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com>
> <http://www.acronymfinder.com>
I didn't get to square one - it's past 4:20.
Maurice
Your wasting your time. The target market here is tiny and informed, and
they don't give a hot shit about your opinions. It shows just how incapable
you are. I personally prefer Dell over HP. More bang for the buck. And you
get a better machine than an Apple for a third of the price.
WIN! WIN!