What is a LCG01-CC ?

[urbancamo]

http://www.recycledgoods.com/zoom.aspx?productID=10338

Don't ever recall seeing one of these before, anyone know what an LCG01-CC is?

Regards, Mark.

[dansabr...@yahoo.com]

This was an inkjet printer. IIRC, the portion you see here is the main controller portion. The actual printer sat on top. This was not a small printer either. The picture shows only the controller/interconnect.

Dan

[Bob Koehler]

In article <650034c5-8508-4178...@googlegroups.com>, urbancamo <ma...@wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
> http://www.recycledgoods.com/zoom.aspx?productID=10338
>
> Don't ever recall seeing one of these before, anyone know what an LCG01-CC is?

LCG01 is an inkjet printer. You can still buy ink and paper for it. It
supports DEC GKS and PHIGS. It is not supported by VMS nor DEC UNIX,
so I assume it came out of thier PC group.

The box in the picure appears to be a serial/parallel adapter,
perhaps including some printer control logic.

There appear to be several people trying to sell one, who don't know
what it is, but nevertheless insist they have one in good working
order. Perhaps you are one of them?

[Scott Dorsey]

The LCG01 was the most unreliable and flaky color printer ever made. It
was a Tektronix print engine which sat on top of the LCGO1-CC rasterizer
unit and took print commands from it.

The LCG01-CC unit first downline-loaded its program from a host computer,
over a serial connection. Then it accepted print jobs in a number of
different formats including sixel, which it would render and send to the
Tektronix ink jet printer which would jam and then squirt ink all over the
person trying to unjam it.

As I recall, the unit has a PDP-11 instruction set inside the box.
Not very many of these things were sold because the complete system was
very expensive and didn't work very well.
--scott

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[Scott Dorsey]

Bob Koehler <koe...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote:
>In article <650034c5-8508-4178...@googlegroups.com>, urbancamo <ma...@wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
>> http://www.recycledgoods.com/zoom.aspx?productID=10338
>>
>> Don't ever recall seeing one of these before, anyone know what an LCG01-CC is?
> LCG01 is an inkjet printer. You can still buy ink and paper for it. It
> supports DEC GKS and PHIGS. It is not supported by VMS nor DEC UNIX,
> so I assume it came out of thier PC group.

It was supported by VMS 5.5 at least.

[urbancamo]

OK, thanks for the responses. I'm not a seller, just curious as correctly pointed out there is no distinguishing information to be had from a google search and yet it looks a bit like some of the AXP based workstations.

I'm sure someone might find the contents interested if it is indeed PDP based.

Regards, Mark.

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2013-03-04 17:03, urbancamo wrote:
> OK, thanks for the responses. I'm not a seller, just curious as correctly pointed out there is no distinguishing information to be had from a google search and yet it looks a bit like some of the AXP based workstations.
>
> I'm sure someone might find the contents interested if it is indeed PDP based.

Well, you know, Mark, just googling for lcg01 would have told you what
it was. ;-)

Johnny

[Richard]

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koe...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) spake the secret code
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>In article <650034c5-8508-4178...@googlegroups.com>,
>urbancamo <ma...@wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
>> http://www.recycledgoods.com/zoom.aspx?productID=10338
>>
>> Don't ever recall seeing one of these before, anyone know what an LCG01-CC is?
>
> LCG01 is an inkjet printer. You can still buy ink and paper for it. It
> supports DEC GKS and PHIGS.

Uh.... not really sure what it means for it to be supporting PHIGS, as
that is a 3D graphics standard. GKS I can see, because that is a 2D
graphics standard. And I'm pretty sure it's not the printer that
supports these things, but the GKS device driver that supports it.
In the case of PHIGS, I'm not sure what it would mean -- perhaps the
device driver rasterizes the image and then sends it to the printer.
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[Bob Koehler]

In article <kh2fb5$r2i$1...@panix2.panix.com>, klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
> Bob Koehler <koe...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote:
>>In article <650034c5-8508-4178...@googlegroups.com>, urbancamo <ma...@wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
>>> http://www.recycledgoods.com/zoom.aspx?productID=10338
>>>
>>> Don't ever recall seeing one of these before, anyone know what an LCG01-CC is?
>> LCG01 is an inkjet printer. You can still buy ink and paper for it. It
>> supports DEC GKS and PHIGS. It is not supported by VMS nor DEC UNIX,
>> so I assume it came out of thier PC group.
>
> It was supported by VMS 5.5 at least.

OK, that probably was later than the docs I had access to.

[Bob Koehler]

In article <4ac614e1-f454-4053...@googlegroups.com>, urbancamo <ma...@wickensonline.co.uk> writes:
> OK, thanks for the responses. I'm not a seller, just curious as correctly pointed out there is no distinguishing information to be had from a google search and yet it looks a bit like some of the AXP based workstations.

I've never seen an Alpha with three different kinds of serial ports,
not any parallel port.

And it would be nice if your post wasn't more than 80 characters
wide. Most likely a google groups setting.

[Scott Dorsey]

In article <kh3fi9$uoe$1...@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote:
>
>Uh.... not really sure what it means for it to be supporting PHIGS, as
>that is a 3D graphics standard. GKS I can see, because that is a 2D
>graphics standard. And I'm pretty sure it's not the printer that
>supports these things, but the GKS device driver that supports it.
>In the case of PHIGS, I'm not sure what it would mean -- perhaps the
>device driver rasterizes the image and then sends it to the printer.

The device driver does not, the computer inside the LCG01-CC box does that.
It is a powerful rendering engine inside there.

[John Wallace]

On Mar 4, 3:40 pm, klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Seconded, at least wrt complexity and unreliability of the (Tektronix-
originated) print engine. I'm not sure it was exactly inkjet either,
wasn't it more like wax than ink?

If I'm remembering rightly, this thing put a sheet of paper on a drum
which rotated at relatively high speed, and the colour (or black?) was
applied as it rotated. What happened at the end as the paper was
detached from the drum while it was still rotating was sometimes quite
entertaining, and finding where the paper had flown to could be a good
game sometimes.

Not greatly missed by me. But at the time, there weren't many credible
alternatives from anybody.

[Scott Dorsey]

John Wallace <johnwa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Seconded, at least wrt complexity and unreliability of the (Tektronix-
>originated) print engine. I'm not sure it was exactly inkjet either,
>wasn't it more like wax than ink?
>
>If I'm remembering rightly, this thing put a sheet of paper on a drum
>which rotated at relatively high speed, and the colour (or black?) was
>applied as it rotated. What happened at the end as the paper was
>detached from the drum while it was still rotating was sometimes quite
>entertaining, and finding where the paper had flown to could be a good
>game sometimes.

No, that's not the LCG01, but we had one of those things too. I'll think
of the name of it soon... I think it might have been a rebadged Versatec
product. Believe it or not, the LCG01 was worse.

[Richard]

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) spake the secret code
<kh534n$bbu$1...@panix2.panix.com> thusly:

Uh.... that doesn't seem to be the brigtest of design choices, but
yeah, I suppose you could do that.

[Scott Dorsey]

>[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) spake the secret code
><kh534n$bbu$1...@panix2.panix.com> thusly:
>
>>In article <kh3fi9$uoe$1...@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote:
>>>
>>>Uh.... not really sure what it means for it to be supporting PHIGS, as
>>>that is a 3D graphics standard. GKS I can see, because that is a 2D
>>>graphics standard. And I'm pretty sure it's not the printer that
>>>supports these things, but the GKS device driver that supports it.
>>>In the case of PHIGS, I'm not sure what it would mean -- perhaps the
>>>device driver rasterizes the image and then sends it to the printer.
>>
>>The device driver does not, the computer inside the LCG01-CC box does that.
>>It is a powerful rendering engine inside there.
>

>Uh.... that doesn't seem to be the brigtest of design choices, but
>yeah, I suppose you could do that.

There was a time when we were discussing what it might take to build a
postscript engine that could be downloaded into the thing, but before that
got beyond the idle speculation stage we dumpstered the whole thing and bought
a QMS.

[Bob Koehler]

In article <kh3fi9$uoe$1...@news.xmission.com>, Richard <> wrote:
>
>Uh.... not really sure what it means for it to be supporting PHIGS, as
>that is a 3D graphics standard.

So, can I interface PHIGS to a 3-D printer?

[Richard]

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koe...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) spake the secret code

<4bJY19...@eisner.encompasserve.org> thusly:

If you had a driver for it, sure. VMS documentation even shows you
how to define your own GKS driver, so I'm guessing they might have a
similar thing for PHIGS. It would be an "output only" workstation
type.