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Paul

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Jun 10, 2012, 12:59:15 AM6/10/12
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Can anyone here help me locate a device to hook
my C64 or the C128 to a LCD monitor?

Thanks in Advance...

Payton Byrd

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Jun 10, 2012, 4:30:47 PM6/10/12
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It'll be just as cheap to buy an LCD TV off eBay.

Christian Brandt

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Jun 11, 2012, 11:04:55 AM6/11/12
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LCD TVs usually don't work well on old Computers. You get all kind of
funny and stupid behaviour. Yes, there are some models doing well. If
you know one, tell me.

Christian Brandt

Rami

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Jun 12, 2012, 4:21:48 PM6/12/12
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Get a composite video cable for your 64/128 and hook it up with this http://dx.com/p/v2v-pro-video-to-vga-monitor-converter-box-pal-ntsc-secam-45232?item=1 ? Works for me well enough.

Paul Förster

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Jul 20, 2012, 12:48:20 PM7/20/12
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Hey Paul,
... if you can solder your own cable, then make it S-Video. Look here:

http://www.commodoreserver.com/BlogEntryView.asp?EID=F4B967500A894E10BE4A104C65DB541E


Don't forget the 300 Ohm resistor. It's important! With that cable, you
can hook up your C64 to any S-Video capable TV set. For this to work,
you need a C64 with the 8-pin video connector. The (older) 5-pin
version will not work.
--
cul8er

Paul
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Robert Roland

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Jul 22, 2012, 4:43:58 AM7/22/12
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:48:20 +0200, Paul F�rster
<paul.f...@gmx.net> wrote:

>Don't forget the 300 Ohm resistor.

How critical is the value of that resistor?

300ohm is not a standard value, so is difficult to find. Would 270ohm
be close enough?
--
RoRo

Martijn van Buul

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Jul 22, 2012, 5:14:52 AM7/22/12
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* Robert Roland:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:48:20 +0200, Paul F?rster
><paul.f...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>>Don't forget the 300 Ohm resistor.
>
> How critical is the value of that resistor?
>
> 300ohm is not a standard value, so is difficult to find. Would 270ohm
> be close enough?

It's not things-will-explode-critical, but it helps to be as close to 300
Ohm as possible.

300 Ohm is a standard value in the E24 range. E12 is slightly more common;
if you can find them in 5% tolerance you can most likely get away with
270+27 (or 270+33) in series.

--
Martijn van Buul - pi...@dohd.org

Martijn van Buul

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Jul 22, 2012, 5:28:38 AM7/22/12
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* Martijn van Buul:
> 300 Ohm is a standard value in the E24 range. E12 is slightly more common;
> if you can find them in 5% tolerance you can most likely get away with
> 270+27 (or 270+33) in series.


Alternatively, 470 Ohm and 820 Ohm in parallel, if that makes construction
easier..

Groepaz

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Jul 22, 2012, 7:49:14 AM7/22/12
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Robert Roland wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:48:20 +0200, Paul Fï¿œrster
> <paul.f...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>>Don't forget the 300 Ohm resistor.
>
> How critical is the value of that resistor?
>
> 300ohm is not a standard value, so is difficult to find. Would 270ohm
> be close enough?

its very non critical. just take whatever you have :)

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Paul Förster

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Jul 22, 2012, 12:38:44 PM7/22/12
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Hi Robert,

On 2012-07-22 11:49:14 +0000, Groepaz said:

> Robert Roland wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:48:20 +0200, Paul F�rster
>> <paul.f...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't forget the 300 Ohm resistor.
>>
>> How critical is the value of that resistor?
>>
>> 300ohm is not a standard value, so is difficult to find. Would 270ohm
>> be close enough?
>
> its very non critical. just take whatever you have :)

... in fact, it is somewhat critical depending on what type of S-Video
display (TV, monitor, etc.) you have. I found that my TV will happily
live without it while my monitor requires it. The monitor still shows a
picture but it is very much flickering like the screen refresh rate
goes down to 5 images per second or so. Putting the 300 Ohm resistor in
gives a stable picture.

Also, leave the resistor out for tube TVs. Put it in for flat screen
TVs. That'll give best results.
--
cul8er

Paul
paul.f...@gmx.net

Groepaz

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Jul 25, 2012, 11:23:59 AM7/25/12
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Paul Fï¿œrster wrote:
> ... in fact, it is somewhat critical depending on what type of S-Video
> display (TV, monitor, etc.) you have. I found that my TV will happily
> live without it while my monitor requires it. The monitor still shows a
> picture but it is very much flickering like the screen refresh rate
> goes down to 5 images per second or so. Putting the 300 Ohm resistor in
> gives a stable picture.

but it would do the same with 600 ohm :)

> Also, leave the resistor out for tube TVs. Put it in for flat screen
> TVs. That'll give best results.

to be exact: what matters is wether the tuner (or the y/c sync seperating
part in particular) is digital or analog :)

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Paul Förster

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Jul 25, 2012, 3:47:20 PM7/25/12
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Hi Groepaz,

> but it would do the same with 600 ohm :)

... I don't know. I tried with 300 Ohms as suggested and it works. I
don't know if any other value would do.

> to be exact: what matters is wether the tuner (or the y/c sync seperating
> part in particular) is digital or analog :)

... right, but as a rule of thumb, tube versus LCD is a good base for
the decision. But then, I only quoted the text.
--
cul8er

Paul
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Groepaz

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Jul 26, 2012, 8:23:14 PM7/26/12
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Paul Fï¿œrster wrote:

> ... I don't know. I tried with 300 Ohms as suggested and it works. I
> don't know if any other value would do.

higher values will give you less chroma, so you will have to crank it up a
bit on the monitor later.... other than that, no big difference :)

>
>> to be exact: what matters is wether the tuner (or the y/c sync seperating
>> part in particular) is digital or analog :)
>
> ... right, but as a rule of thumb, tube versus LCD is a good base for
> the decision. But then, I only quoted the text.

ofcourse :)

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