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Fray Bentos  
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 More options Mar 25 2006, 12:42 pm
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From: "Fray Bentos" <f...@bentos.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:42:29 GMT
Local: Sat, Mar 25 2006 12:42 pm
Subject: 1541 or 154I ?
On the front of the older 1541 drive, the last 1 looks like an I .

Whats that all about ?

http://home.wanadoo.nl/cip/Pagina/DSKD-1541.htm


 
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James @ cbm264  
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 More options Mar 25 2006, 1:08 pm
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From: "James @ cbm264" <doctorduc...@gmail.com>
Date: 25 Mar 2006 10:08:11 -0800
Local: Sat, Mar 25 2006 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?
The font Commodore used at the time is the reason for this.

I believe the font originally used an "l" for a one. Commodore modified
this to have a flag at the top, so that it resembled a typewriter style
1. This way the perephrials would definately start with a number
("fifteen forty-one") instead of a letter ("eye five forty-one").

Why didn't the ending "1" have a flag on it? If you feel the texture of
the numbering and the Commodore logo, they are raised and you can see
the grooves that make the lettering and numbering look like stainless
steel. Not putting the flag on it probably saved Commodore a fraction
of a cent per nameplate.

I looked at my 1541s, my 1571s, and my 1581s, and they carried this
through. By then it was a distinction that this was a genuine Commodore
product.

Curiously enough, this tradition was not kept with the TED series. All
3 of the 1551s I have handy read "l55l" on their faceplates. The box
for the Plus/4's joystick reads T-l34l.

But then again, Commodore wasn't known for consistency. By all rights,
the C on 64C and the D on 128D should be lower-case, to match the
Commodore name on the same tag. Looking at my Plus/4 software
collection, I see some titles that are for the "plus/4" and some for
the "Plus/4", and one title for the "PLUS/4" (differences in
capitalization). The 1541-II should be a 1541-2 as well.

If it helps you sleep better tonight, evey disk drive I have handy, has
"1" on the serial tag where a one should be; the serial tags on my
1541s state "1541", not "154l". My 1551s say "1551" on the serial tags
as well.

James
www.cbm264.com


 
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David Murray  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 9:00 am
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From: "David Murray" <adri...@yahoo.com>
Date: 26 Mar 2006 06:00:44 -0800
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 9:00 am
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?
You know it is funny.  After 20 years of using C= computers, I never
noticed that.  In fact, I have a 1581 sitting right next to me and it
even says 158I.  I am surprised nobody has ever mentioned that to me
before.  I'm surprised I didn't hear people going around calling drives
one-fifty-four-i or something.

 
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Simon Scott  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 9:18 am
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From: Simon Scott <simon_nos...@chrome64.r3mov3th15.org>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:18:41 +0800
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 9:18 am
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?

David Murray wrote:
> You know it is funny.  After 20 years of using C= computers, I never
> noticed that.  In fact, I have a 1581 sitting right next to me and it
> even says 158I.  I am surprised nobody has ever mentioned that to me
> before.  I'm surprised I didn't hear people going around calling drives
> one-fifty-four-i or something.

heh, I read it and looked around and saw 157I, SFD100I.... and 1541-II :) So
I guess they broke the tradition after all......... :)

 
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Nicolas Welte  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 11:24 am
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From: Nicolas Welte <welte_s...@freenet.de>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:24:20 +0200
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 11:24 am
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?

David Murray wrote:
> You know it is funny.  After 20 years of using C= computers, I never
> noticed that.  In fact, I have a 1581 sitting right next to me and it
> even says 158I.  I am surprised nobody has ever mentioned that to me
> before.  I'm surprised I didn't hear people going around calling drives
> one-fifty-four-i or something.

On German ebay, they sell e.g. Commondore 1280 all the time! I can
somewhat understand where the 1280 comes from, but why Commondore?

Nicolas


 
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James @ cbm264  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 11:31 am
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From: "James @ cbm264" <doctorduc...@gmail.com>
Date: 26 Mar 2006 08:31:41 -0800
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 11:31 am
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?
Your 1541-II says "1541-II"? Mine says "154l-ll".

You may or may not see the difference. My drive says "one five four
lowercase-L, dash lowercase-L lowercase-L".

James


 
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James @ cbm264  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 11:37 am
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From: "James @ cbm264" <doctorduc...@gmail.com>
Date: 26 Mar 2006 08:37:39 -0800
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 11:37 am
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?
I remember seeing an Ebay listing last summer where the seller had an
"eye five fourty one" (I541) disk drive for sale. I've also seen
"twelve eighty" (1280) and "twelve eight oh" (128O) computers listed.
That's why I jumped on this thread so quickly, it irritated me that
people can't read what's clearly on the nameplate.

But as I wrote the message yesterday, I realized that the nameplates
themselves don't match the serial tags. It wasn't until I specifically
looked at my "fifteen fifty-ones" that I noticed the lack of
consistency there!

James


 
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Anders Carlsson  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 2:28 pm
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From: Anders Carlsson <anders.carls...@sfks.se>
Date: 26 Mar 2006 20:28:58 +0100
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?
"James @ cbm264" <doctorduc...@gmail.com> writes:

> Your 1541-II says "1541-II"? Mine says "154l-ll".

Both my drives clearly say 1541-II. Maybe part of the print has
weared off the other units?

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Anders Carlsson


 
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Anders Carlsson  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 2:39 pm
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From: Anders Carlsson <anders.carls...@sfks.se>
Date: 26 Mar 2006 20:39:33 +0100
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?

Nicolas Welte <welte_s...@freenet.de> writes:
> On German ebay, they sell e.g. Commondore 1280 all the time!

If I got one penny for each misspelled Commodore, I'd be a rich
man. Commondore, Commadore.. in light of recent events I searched
and even found relevant references to Condomore.

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Anders Carlsson


 
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Simon Scott  
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 More options Mar 26 2006, 6:09 pm
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From: Simon Scott <simon_nos...@chrome64.r3mov3th15.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:09:40 +0800
Local: Sun, Mar 26 2006 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?

Anders Carlsson wrote:
> Both my drives clearly say 1541-II. Maybe part of the print has
> weared off the other units?

and mine (2 of).

 
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Casca2525 sympatico  
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 More options Mar 27 2006, 7:53 pm
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From: Casca2525 <Ca...@casca.ca(sympatico)>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:53:14 -0500
Local: Mon, Mar 27 2006 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: 1541 or 154I ?
On 25 Mar 2006 10:08:11 -0800, "James @ cbm264"

maybe the started out in arabic and ened in roman?
IE the drive was really a 154 I
but then that doesn't work out as the 1541-II should have been 154II
WEG
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Casca

 
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