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rusure

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Dec 6, 2009, 10:53:46 AM12/6/09
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For Commodore computers, cartridges have been primarily used for game
code. Occasionally, cartridges were used for disk drive
acceleratrors. Although cartridges are resistant to all but the most
determined pirate, SW people chose to implement their items on disks.
Here is a curious exception for auction, the ChatterBox cartridge
based terminal program for the C64.

Dombo

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Dec 6, 2009, 12:05:31 PM12/6/09
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rusure schreef:

> http://shop.ebay.com/rusure3206/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
>
> For Commodore computers, cartridges have been primarily used for game
> code. Occasionally, cartridges were used for disk drive
> acceleratrors.

Where I live it was the other way around, most cartridges people used
were tape/disk speeders and the disk drive was used to load (mostly
pirated) games.

Groepaz

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Dec 6, 2009, 3:42:16 PM12/6/09
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Dombo wrote:

yep, indeed. and utilities such as that terminal programs werent exactly
rare on cartridge either =P

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Clocky

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Dec 6, 2009, 7:57:03 PM12/6/09
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"rusure" <r_u_...@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
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I would like a ROM dump of that one if anyone here ends up with that cart
and has the ability to dump the ROM.


Dmackey828

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Dec 6, 2009, 10:03:50 PM12/6/09
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:57:03 +0800, "Clocky" <not...@happen.com>
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Ok Cool, No prob. How about $25? LOL...

Clocky

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Dec 6, 2009, 10:07:42 PM12/6/09
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"Dmackey828" <n2...@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in message
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LOL - If either of us gets it that dump is sure to be forthcoming I suspect
;-)


Dmackey828

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Dec 6, 2009, 10:14:49 PM12/6/09
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:07:42 +0800, "Clocky" <not...@happen.com>
wrote:

I'll tell you what, when it arrives I'll get a copy of the rom out to
you, for all the help you have given me...

rusure

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Dec 7, 2009, 11:57:23 AM12/7/09
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On Dec 6, 8:14 pm, Dmackey828 <n2...@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote:
> >"Dmackey828" <n2...@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in message
> >news:r3soh5tg6cd1kt413...@4ax.com...
> I'll tell you what, when it arrives I'll get a copy of the rom out to
> you, for all the help you have given me...- Hide quoted text -

All I have do is put my pants on and go to the post office before the
close of business today. The pants are needed because it's freezing
outside.

Could someone confirm Mr. Groepaz's claim that these cartridge's were
common. I can't think of another terminal program cartridge. I have
a catridge spread sheet and a wordptocessor for the C128. If I
stumble onto their user's guides I'll auction those off too.

Dmackey828

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Dec 7, 2009, 2:33:45 PM12/7/09
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Hey, Pants are a good thing. :) As far as Common, This is the first
example I found, I also looked on the internet for info on it, I found
nothing related. Guess I'll have to take pics of the cart, board and
scan the manual. It will be up on my site as soon as I can get it
done. http://www.n2dvm.com is my Commodore site.

It should be easy, I will also make a ROM dump for any one that wants
to make a copy of this cartridge.

Happy Holidays all...

Clocky

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Dec 7, 2009, 5:17:31 PM12/7/09
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"rusure" <r_u_...@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 6, 8:14 pm, Dmackey828 <n2...@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote:
> >"Dmackey828" <n2...@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in message
> >news:r3soh5tg6cd1kt413...@4ax.com...
> I'll tell you what, when it arrives I'll get a copy of the rom out to
> you, for all the help you have given me...- Hide quoted text -

All I have do is put my pants on and go to the post office before the
close of business today. The pants are needed because it's freezing
outside.

Could someone confirm Mr. Groepaz's claim that these cartridge's were
common. I can't think of another terminal program cartridge.

I can confirm that I have never come across any terminal cartridge for the
C64 other then one I made myself. The closest thing to a commercial terminal
cartridge that were common around here was probably the Viatel cartridge
which allowed access to the popular but expensive Telecom (now Telstra)
Viatel service here in Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esaMAyTbURo


DanSolo

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:17:54 AM12/8/09
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On Dec 7, 4:57 pm, rusure <r_u_s...@mybluelight.com> wrote:
> All I have do is put my pants on and go to the post office before the
> close of business today.  The pants are needed because it's freezing
> outside.

Er, is that the only reason you wear pants? :-)

Dombo

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Dec 8, 2009, 12:09:53 PM12/8/09
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DanSolo schreef:

Is there any other reason you could think of?

rusure

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Dec 8, 2009, 12:25:11 PM12/8/09
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Although the cold is the primary reason for
pants, the authorities frown upon bottomless
excursions to the post office as well.

There may even be a sign in the window:
No shoes, no shirt no service

Tom Lake

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Dec 8, 2009, 2:56:18 PM12/8/09
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> Although the cold is the primary reason for
> pants, the authorities frown upon bottomless
> excursions to the post office as well.
>
> There may even be a sign in the window:
> No shoes, no shirt no service
>

Yeah but it doesn't say anything about no pants, does it?
It's nothing to be em-bare-assed about. 8^)

Tom Lake
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She said, "I wouldn't lose any sleep over it."

Leif Bloomquist

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Dec 9, 2009, 11:16:09 AM12/9/09
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"rusure" <r_u_...@mybluelight.com> wrote in message
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>Although the cold is the primary reason for
> pants, the authorities frown upon bottomless
> excursions to the post office as well.

Time your trip for No Pants Day and blend in with the crowd.

http://improveverywhere.com/missions/the-no-pants-subway-ride/


> There may even be a sign in the window:
> No shoes, no shirt no service

It doesn't say anything about pants now does it?

;-P

-Leif


Michael

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Dec 9, 2009, 1:40:41 PM12/9/09
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On Dec 7, 5:17 pm, "Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote:
> I can confirm that I have never come across any terminal cartridge for the
> C64 other then one I made myself. The closest thing to a commercial terminal
> cartridge that were common around here was probably the Viatel cartridge
> which allowed access to the popular but expensive Telecom (now Telstra)
> Viatel service here in Australia.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Commodore-64-ChatterBox-cartridge-terminal-program_W0QQitemZ110464058331QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b82bc3db

Golan Klinger

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Dec 9, 2009, 2:18:00 PM12/9/09
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You can't make this stuff up.

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Groepaz

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Dec 10, 2009, 10:12:24 PM12/10/09
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rusure wrote:

> Could someone confirm Mr. Groepaz's claim that these cartridge's were
> common. I can't think of another terminal program cartridge. I have
> a catridge spread sheet and a wordptocessor for the C128. If I
> stumble onto their user's guides I'll auction those off too.

the german company "rex datentechnik" for example made TONS of such
cartriges ... simple fastload type things, and lots of more or less useful
utility collections. lots of crap released that way i guess, which people
only bought because "if its on cartridge, then it must be good" =P

i wouldnt call them "common" as in "everyone has that" - but they certainly
werent uncommon either.

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rusure

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Dec 11, 2009, 12:04:03 AM12/11/09
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On Dec 10, 8:12 pm, Groepaz <groe...@gmx.net> wrote:
> rusure wrote:
> > Could someone confirm Mr. Groepaz's claim
> > that these cartridge's were common.
>
> the german company "rex datentechnik" for
> example made TONS of such cartriges ... simple
> fastload type things, and lots of more or less
> useful utility collections. lots of crap released that
> way i guess, which people only bought because
> "if its on cartridge, then it must be good" =P

I and Mr. Dmakey would testify that we have never seen anything like
ChatterBox cartridges in the US. I don't know what country Mr. Cocky
comes from but he hasn't seen this kind of item either. Some names of
terminal program cartridges might be interesting. For its time, CB
worked as well as I needed . I learned a lot about telecommunications
while using CB. Considering its low distribution of sold units, it
had few design flaws and program bugs. I only abandoned CB when it
became necessary to use higher baud rates and hard ware handshaking.
Mr. Dmakey paid over $20 total. I consider that a respectable amount
but I would have liked to have gotten more.

Dmackey828

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Dec 11, 2009, 3:26:32 AM12/11/09
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Well I must say, I thought it was going to go for more myself..

For any one who wants a ROM dump of this cart... DOCS to follow,
goto:

http://www.n2dvm.com/carts/chatter/cb.html

I tested the RAW image in Winvice, started up. (Thanks Vanessa)

I also burned a copy with my Promenade C1 (changed the 00 40 to 00 20)
and it works perfect. As soon as I can, the docs with be posted on the
same page. I'll post a note here when they are completed.

PS: RUSURE, I left you POSITIVE Feedback on ebay.. Thanks..

rusure

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Dec 11, 2009, 7:01:20 PM12/11/09
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> I thought it was going to go for more myself.

i wonder if my auction problem was caused by my failure to include an
image with the user's guide. I primarily want to know if an auction
of interest is for a working or non working item. When I construct an
auction image, I want to include something that shows the item
working. I have learned that potential bidders want an image of the
item regardless of how static such an image is. The auction image for
the ChatterBox contained a CB screen containing a modem status query
as well as an overlay of the cartridge image. This showed that the
cartridge works to some extent without a BBS to connect to. I was
unable to get the user's guide in the image. I could have included a
second image of a static user's guide but I didn't want to spend the
35 cents. Maybe that was penny wise and pound foolish

Dmackey828

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Dec 11, 2009, 9:27:53 PM12/11/09
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Before I bid on anyhting, I ALWAYS read the entire auction so I knew
it came with the manual. Thats another thing about running my own
web server, I can put links to many more pics for my auctions if
needed.

winston19842005

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Dec 11, 2009, 9:56:54 PM12/11/09
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On 12/11/09 9:27 PM, in article npv5i5l6rpdf1jqiq...@4ax.com,
"Dmackey828" <n2...@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote:

Ever heard of free picture-hosting sites? I use tinypic myself...

Clocky

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Dec 12, 2009, 9:55:25 AM12/12/09
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"Dmackey828" <n2...@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for that Dan, I got your email :-)


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