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What's the difference between Atari 1040STF w/ RED and ORANGE disk drive LED?

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Αdοnis

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:02:42 PM12/13/09
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Hi everyone,

my question is in the title. I cannot find what's the difference
between a 1040STF with orange disk drive LED and one with a red one...
Any ideas? And where did you find this information? What's a good
repository for such info

Thanks!

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Jo Even Skarstein

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Dec 14, 2009, 3:44:30 AM12/14/09
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lp <gfa-...@mint.net> wrote:

> Answer is color. ;-)

> They used various drive mechs from different sources.

But the STF floppy LED is on the keyboard, not the drive...

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Jo Even Skarstein

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Dec 14, 2009, 3:50:07 AM12/14/09
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?d?nis <4do...@gmail.com> wrote:

> my question is in the title. I cannot find what's the difference
> between a 1040STF with orange disk drive LED and one with a red one...

Are you sure that the one with an orange LED is a STF and not a STFM? I
have not seen many STF's, but all I've seen has red LEDs. I have never
seen an STFM with red LEDs.

pp

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:59:10 AM12/14/09
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Now, this is really 'something extremely' important :-)
Why not Googling a little. For sure there is a lot of sites
specialized about this .

My answer is: one is manufactured when orange color was 'in', and
other ... you know :-)

PP

P.S. before making any final conclusion about this, for humanity very
crucial issue try to open cases, and check are both LEDs original.

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Rodolphe Czuba

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:01:47 PM12/14/09
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EASY !

- The RED led is the first motherboard generation with ROM under the PSU :
1986--1987
- The Orange led (and green for power) is the second generation mb with ROM
under the left of the keyboard (and a BLITTER place : socket to be soldered
!).
1987--1989

Sure if somebody exchanged the keyboard, the rule is wrong ;-)


Regards

charlie

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Dec 14, 2009, 6:20:03 PM12/14/09
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i'm almost sure is to do with the revison of the model /make of the
atari ,, but could also to do with the origin(north
america,uk,france,german) of machine ,

i have couple differrent st and all are different.but same model and
same origin just differrent revision #'s

charles

Αdοnis

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Dec 17, 2009, 2:31:19 AM12/17/09
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Awesome! That's what I wanted to know (I had a hunch but nothing found
on Google - nice try wise-ass-PP: but you know if I'm posting on
newsgroups I've already gone through Google).

As for my 1040STFs, I'm not sure if the LEDs where changed, but in one
both power/floppy (yes I know the stupid LED isn't on the floppy
itself - stop being pedantic folks) are red, and on the other they are
green (power) and yellow/orange (orange to me anyways)

So, does it mean that one can add a blitter to a 2nd gen mobo? (of
course on can, but will it work is what I really mean)

BTW, you rock Rodolphe! (CT060, etc.)

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Thorsten Günther

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Dec 18, 2009, 8:09:16 AM12/18/09
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Αdοnis schrieb:

> As for my 1040STFs, I'm not sure if the LEDs where changed, but in one
> both power/floppy (yes I know the stupid LED isn't on the floppy
> itself - stop being pedantic folks) are red, and on the other they are
> green (power) and yellow/orange (orange to me anyways)
>
> So, does it mean that one can add a blitter to a 2nd gen mobo? (of
> course on can, but will it work is what I really mean)

Adding a blitter might be possible on any ST, but there's no space
reserved for one on the STf/STfm mainoards AFAIK - if you want one, my
advice would be to get a Mega ST or (Mega) STE. The changed LEDs were
due to dropping LED prices - red LEDs were significantly cheaper in 1985
to 1986 or 1987, afterwards other colours were available at similar
prices and green and yellow simply looked more modern than the (then)
all-too-common red ones.

And BTW, the blitter isn't used by too many programs anyway, and if you
want to speed up GEM: replacing the VDI with the RAM-based NVDI is much
easier and has a much greater effect (NVDI 3 is sold very cheaply on
hood.de and occasionally on eBay and even comes with TrueType and Speedo
font support).

Thorsten

PP

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Dec 18, 2009, 1:14:04 PM12/18/09
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On dec. 17, 08:31, Αdοnis <4do...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Awesome! That's what I wanted to know (I had a hunch but nothing found
> on Google - nice try wise-ass-PP: but you know if I'm posting on
> newsgroups I've already gone through Google).
>

If you didn't get, my 'advise' for Googling was pure sarcasm :-)
Sad that such stupid threads like this pull most attention here.

PP

Cyprian

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Dec 24, 2009, 6:31:52 PM12/24/09
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Thorsten Günther wrote:
> Αdοnis schrieb:

> > So, does it mean that one can add a blitter to a 2nd gen mobo? (of
> > course on can, but will it work is what I really mean)
>
> Adding a blitter might be possible on any ST, but there's no space
> reserved for one on the STf/STfm mainoards AFAIK

it depends on revision. my 1040 STfm has dedicated place for BLiTTER:
http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/index.php/Image:ST_Motherboard_C070789-001_Rev_C_baz2.jpg
http://www.atari-forum.com/wiki/index.php/Atari_ST_motherboard_revisions

regards
Cyprian

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