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Egan Ford

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Mar 16, 2012, 12:57:39 PM3/16/12
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Hello all,

I just picked an Apple IIgs (ROM3) w/ keyboard, mouse, monitor, and 2
drives (3.5” and 5.25”) at no cost expect shipping. I connected up the
system, powered it on, and it appears to work. BTW, nothing in the
slots. This is my first IIgs, so please bear with me.

My first question is, “now what?” Other than a good cleaning (esp. the
keyboard) is there any preemptive maintenance I should perform before
heavy (or occasional) use? Anything I should check? What about a diag
disk?

I am not interested in any intensive restoration work. The system is
dust free (and came with a dust cover too :-) and was probably packed
away for sometime. I cannot tell if there is any discoloration. It is
mostly clean except the keyboard. What solvent should I use to safely
remove the grime?

My only concern at this point is that when I (cold) power on the
monitor, I hear a loud “thunk”, however the monitor output looks normal,
except that it can start to look messed up if I adjust the horizontal
placement.

That’s it. Thanks.

D Finnigan

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Mar 16, 2012, 1:13:34 PM3/16/12
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Egan Ford wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just picked an Apple IIgs (ROM3) w/ keyboard, mouse, monitor, and 2
> drives (3.5” and 5.25”) at no cost expect shipping. I connected up
> the
> system, powered it on, and it appears to work. BTW, nothing in the
> slots. This is my first IIgs, so please bear with me.

The IIgs is surprisingly capable even with nothing in the slots. For years,
I ran a IIgs with no cards except for memory expansion. But now I'm spoiled
with a Focus and Uthernet!

Did yours come with the memory expansion card?

>
> My first question is, “now what?” Other than a good cleaning (esp.
the
> keyboard) is there any preemptive maintenance I should perform before
> heavy (or occasional) use? Anything I should check? What about a diag
> disk?

My experience with IIgs models is that they are the most reliable. I haven't
had any problems with either my ROM 01 or ROM 3 IIgs.

>
> What solvent should I use to safely
> remove the grime?

Water.

--
]DF$
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and
Macintosh computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/

Wholly Mindless

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Mar 16, 2012, 4:33:16 PM3/16/12
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Egan Ford wrote:
> Hello all,
> My only concern at this point is that when I (cold) power on the
> monitor, I hear a loud “thunk”, however the monitor output looks
> normal,
> except that it can start to look messed up if I adjust the horizontal
> placement.

Congrats on finding a good deal on GS - Monitors are getting harder to come
by.

The good news is that the THUNK is what they all do - apparently this the
automatic degaussing feature that many crts had.

Horizontal alignment never seems to something that GS monitors were good at.
Most of the monitors I've ever seen in use all lean to the "left".

Cleaning - I don't know of anything magical - I generally stick to warm
water, maybe a little rubbing alcohol if it's just a bit too stubborn.
Critically, I never flood. That's when all kinds of things get loose and
get in the keyswitches and the keyswitches are good you don't want to be
pulling them apart.

We look forward to seeing what you'll do with your new find!

--
Wholly

D Finnigan

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Mar 16, 2012, 4:58:28 PM3/16/12
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Wholly Mindless wrote:
>
> The good news is that the THUNK is what they all do - apparently this the
> automatic degaussing feature that many crts had.
>

I had assumed that it was just the sound of high tension entering the CRT.

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that the AppleColor RGB has a
degausser.

I once was party to quite the shenanigan involving my GS monitor: I had been
fooling about with a rare-earth metal magnet (liberated from a 1992-era
Quantum hard disk drive), pulling the electron gun until rather a nasty
blotch took up residence on the screen. Well of course it had no intentions
of leaving!

The solution I devised was to lift the GS monitor and hold its screen flat
against the screen of my Mac mini's 17" CRT. I powered on the larger
monitor, whose automatic degausser was only too happy to assist with the GS
monitor as well.

An amusing solution, I'm sure.

Wholly Mindless

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Mar 16, 2012, 6:49:32 PM3/16/12
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D Finnigan wrote:
> I had assumed that it was just the sound of high tension entering the CRT.

You're probably right, but the important bit for Egan is that that scary
noise is actually normal enough for a GS RGB monitor.

> An amusing solution, I'm sure.

And that I admit is not a trick I ever thought to do (especially when I
screwed up monitors with magnets. We found that putting it in an office
chair and spinning it was the most effective way to make it less obvious.
That and to swap it with someone else's monitor. Then you couldn't see it
at all.

--
Wholly

Michael J. Mahon

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Mar 16, 2012, 7:45:24 PM3/16/12
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D Finnigan <dog...@macgui.com> wrote:
> Wholly Mindless wrote:
>>
>> The good news is that the THUNK is what they all do - apparently this the
>> automatic degaussing feature that many crts had.
>>
>
> I had assumed that it was just the sound of high tension entering the CRT.
>
> I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that the AppleColor RGB has a
> degausser.
>
> I once was party to quite the shenanigan involving my GS monitor: I had been
> fooling about with a rare-earth metal magnet (liberated from a 1992-era
> Quantum hard disk drive), pulling the electron gun until rather a nasty
> blotch took up residence on the screen. Well of course it had no intentions
> of leaving!
>
> The solution I devised was to lift the GS monitor and hold its screen flat
> against the screen of my Mac mini's 17" CRT. I powered on the larger
> monitor, whose automatic degausser was only too happy to assist with the GS
> monitor as well.
>
> An amusing solution, I'm sure.

I think almost all color monitors (and TVs) came with degaussers--a
practical necessity on a planet with a magnetic field. ;-) But the were
never intended to deal with strongly magnetized shadow masks, which is what
you get if you get close with a rare earth magnet.

The "thunk" is the surge of AC through the degaussing coil surrounding the
bezel of the CRT.

(HV won't make any noise except some induced static crackling, since the HV
comes up quite slowly.)

Windex applied to a paper towel works wonders, and *never* spray it on the
keyboard itself.

-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

Egan Ford

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Mar 17, 2012, 9:30:51 AM3/17/12
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On 3/16/12 11:13 AM, D Finnigan wrote:

> Did yours come with the memory expansion card?

No should it have?

>> What solvent should I use to safely
>> remove the grime?
>
> Water.

Thanks.

Egan Ford

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Mar 17, 2012, 9:35:29 AM3/17/12
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On 3/16/12 2:33 PM, Wholly Mindless wrote:
> Egan Ford wrote:

>> except that it can start to look messed up if I adjust the horizontal
>> placement.

> Horizontal alignment never seems to something that GS monitors were good at.
> Most of the monitors I've ever seen in use all lean to the "left".

Exactly. Left shifted. Otherwise perfect. I can adjust, however on
restart it looks scattered. However moving the horizontal knob fixes it
again.

> We look forward to seeing what you'll do with your new find!

Thanks, it's going to take some time.


Michael Black

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Mar 17, 2012, 11:34:48 AM3/17/12
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012, Michael J. Mahon wrote:

> D Finnigan <dog...@macgui.com> wrote:
>> Wholly Mindless wrote:
>>>
>>> The good news is that the THUNK is what they all do - apparently this the
>>> automatic degaussing feature that many crts had.
>>>
>>
>> I had assumed that it was just the sound of high tension entering the CRT.
>>
>> I may be mistaken, but I don't believe that the AppleColor RGB has a
>> degausser.
>>
>> I once was party to quite the shenanigan involving my GS monitor: I had been
>> fooling about with a rare-earth metal magnet (liberated from a 1992-era
>> Quantum hard disk drive), pulling the electron gun until rather a nasty
>> blotch took up residence on the screen. Well of course it had no intentions
>> of leaving!
>>
>> The solution I devised was to lift the GS monitor and hold its screen flat
>> against the screen of my Mac mini's 17" CRT. I powered on the larger
>> monitor, whose automatic degausser was only too happy to assist with the GS
>> monitor as well.
>>
>> An amusing solution, I'm sure.
>
> I think almost all color monitors (and TVs) came with degaussers--a
> practical necessity on a planet with a magnetic field. ;-) But the were
> never intended to deal with strongly magnetized shadow masks, which is what
> you get if you get close with a rare earth magnet.
>
That's my impression too. Very early color tv sets didn't, you certainly
would see lots of reference to external degaussing coils back then.

But then they disappeared, and it does seem like after a certain point
(and I think predating the rise of home computer monitors) they did all
have degaussing coils built in. Of course, perhaps they burn out. They
have something to make sure they come on when the set is just turned on,
and then off after enough time to degauss, and I think the whatever means
that if you turn off the monitor/tv and then turn it immediately back on,
there's no degaussing. Given that, the whatever could break down at some
point, no automatic degaussing.

Michael

D Finnigan

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Mar 18, 2012, 1:23:02 PM3/18/12
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Egan Ford wrote:
> On 3/16/12 11:13 AM, D Finnigan wrote:
>
>> Did yours come with the memory expansion card?
>
> No should it have?
>

It's quite a desirable accessory, and most IIgs systems have them installed
(just like it's so common to see the 80-cols card in a IIe). Fortunately,
however, they are both common and inexpensive. If you do purchase one, don't
pay more than $10 for it.

Wholly Mindless

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Mar 18, 2012, 4:53:24 PM3/18/12
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D Finnigan wrote:
> It's quite a desirable accessory, and most IIgs systems have them
installed
> (just like it's so common to see the 80-cols card in a IIe). Fortunately,
> however, they are both common and inexpensive. If you do purchase one,
> don't
> pay more than $10 for it.

I think you said you have a ROM 03 which comes with 1M of on board memory.
The 00/01 came with 256k so it was really a necessity if you want to run
GS/OS. The standard Apple memory card (1m max) are easy to come by - but
anything significant will need something nearer a 4 meg card. Those are
most decidedly not available for $10.

Heck, I think I have one or two of the apple cards and I think we're nearby
each other. Let me know if you want it.

--
Wholly

ict@ccess

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Mar 18, 2012, 8:25:01 PM3/18/12
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On Mar 16, 10:57 am, Egan Ford <dataj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>My first question is, “now what?” Other than a good cleaning (esp. the
>keyboard) is there any preemptive maintenance I should perform before
>heavy (or occasional) use? Anything I should check? What about a diag
>disk?
> I am not interested in any intensive restoration work.


What are you calling a "diag" disk? Do you possibly mean defrag?


Upgrading is not really considered restoration, or looked under a
different light, may-be a sort of restoration, so I don't know how you
feel on spending a little on your IIGS.

You can boot a very bare GSOS from an 800 kb floppy but to get any
real joy out of your IIGS, I would suggest at least one of the flash
drives that are available, and I would not settle for a 1 Mb memory
card. Your machine has 1 Mb pre-installed, but a 1.5 Mb and up memory
expansion card is really needed to load a good set of extensions.
Although, you can get away with a 1 Mb memory card as there are some
good extensions that allow you to load other extensions and desk
accessories as you need them, so they don't have to all be in memory
at the same time.

Another reason for a little more memory is so you can create an 800 kb
RAM drive. Then copy any unprotected games and programs from either
of your floppy drives to significantly speed up your programs when
running them. One of the more popular programs, Appleworks, really
benefits from a Ram drive. Disk images can also be copied to the Ram
drive and booted from there as well.

Most of us here, I believe, have moved over to the emulator, and only
use the real thing to boot that odd protected game that can not be
played in any emulators. Most, if not all, emulators also have
trouble viewing 3200 color pictures which is best viewed on the real
machine.

I guess the big questions is, what do you want to do with your IIGS?

You COULD spend big bucks on eBay to get accelerators, scsi cards,
uthernet, etc, etc

There may also be another run of CFFA3000and Carte Blanche, so you may
want to let it be known that your interested in one of those cards to
persuade the makers for another run to be made.

Remember, expandability is only directly proportionate to the size of
your wallet.

So, go crazy, welcome to the club and good find.


Rob

Egan Ford

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:18:01 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/12 6:25 PM, ict@ccess wrote:

> What are you calling a "diag" disk? Do you possibly mean defrag?

Diagnostics. E.g. on the //e there are a number of diskette that you
can boot that will checkout the system.

> Upgrading is not really considered restoration, or looked under a
> different light, may-be a sort of restoration, so I don't know how you
> feel on spending a little on your IIGS.

I am not opposed to upgrading. What I meant by "intensive restoration"
was cleanup solutions like retrobright or soaking keys, etc...

> You can boot a very bare GSOS from an 800 kb floppy but to get any
> real joy out of your IIGS, I would suggest at least one of the flash
> drives that are available, and I would not settle for a 1 Mb memory
> card. Your machine has 1 Mb pre-installed, but a 1.5 Mb and up memory
> expansion card is really needed to load a good set of extensions.
> Although, you can get away with a 1 Mb memory card as there are some
> good extensions that allow you to load other extensions and desk
> accessories as you need them, so they don't have to all be in memory
> at the same time.

I do plan to get a memory expansion card, as well as some type of HD
solution (e.g. CFFA3000).

> Most of us here, I believe, have moved over to the emulator, and only
> use the real thing to boot that odd protected game that can not be
> played in any emulators. Most, if not all, emulators also have
> trouble viewing 3200 color pictures which is best viewed on the real
> machine.

> I guess the big questions is, what do you want to do with your IIGS?

My principal interest is software development. I usually develop with
cross-assemblers and test on emulators, but eventually I need to test on
the real thing, esp. if something unique to the HW.

> You COULD spend big bucks on eBay to get accelerators, scsi cards,
> uthernet, etc, etc

Missed out on Uthernet again. May use PPP to a terminal server.

> There may also be another run of CFFA3000and Carte Blanche, so you may
> want to let it be known that your interested in one of those cards to
> persuade the makers for another run to be made.

On both lists.

> Remember, expandability is only directly proportionate to the size of
> your wallet.

Exactly. I just picked an iPad 3. I could have had an Apple ///.

> So, go crazy, welcome to the club and good find.

Thanks.

Egan Ford

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:19:36 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/12 2:53 PM, Wholly Mindless wrote:
> D Finnigan wrote:
>> It's quite a desirable accessory, and most IIgs systems have them
> installed
>> (just like it's so common to see the 80-cols card in a IIe). Fortunately,
>> however, they are both common and inexpensive. If you do purchase one,
>> don't
>> pay more than $10 for it.
>
> I think you said you have a ROM 03 which comes with 1M of on board memory.
> The 00/01 came with 256k so it was really a necessity if you want to run
> GS/OS. The standard Apple memory card (1m max) are easy to come by - but
> anything significant will need something nearer a 4 meg card. Those are
> most decidedly not available for $10.

Yep ROM 3. Ctrl-Panel reports 1.125 MB.

> Heck, I think I have one or two of the apple cards and I think we're nearby
> each other. Let me know if you want it.

Yes, of course. Now define "nearby". :-)


D Finnigan

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Mar 19, 2012, 10:41:49 AM3/19/12
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ict@ccess wrote:
> On Mar 16, 10:57 am, Egan Ford <dataj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>>My first question is, “now what?” Other than a good cleaning (esp.
>>the
>>keyboard) is there any preemptive maintenance I should perform before
>>heavy (or occasional) use? Anything I should check? What about a diag
>>disk?
>> I am not interested in any intensive restoration work.
>
>
> What are you calling a "diag" disk? Do you possibly mean defrag?
>

Probably diagnostics disk.

>
> You can boot a very bare GSOS from an 800 kb floppy but to get any
> real joy out of your IIGS, I would suggest at least one of the flash
> drives that are available,

I used my IIGs with two 3.5 and two 5.25 drives for at least 5 years. I must
say, getting a Focus hard drive really changed things. I can run a lot more
software now.


> and I would not settle for a 1 Mb memory
> card. Your machine has 1 Mb pre-installed, but a 1.5 Mb and up memory
> expansion card is really needed to load a good set of extensions.

I've been using a 1 MB expansion card in the ROM 3 IIgs all this time. The
only program that I haven't been able to run is Wolfenstein.

>
> Most of us here, I believe, have moved over to the emulator, and only
> use the real thing to boot that odd protected game that can not be
> played in any emulators.

Then I must be one of the last hold-outs. My IIgs is set up on my main desk
right next to my Mac mini, connected by Ethernet.

It's efficient use of screen space! I don't have to switch between an
emulator and another program.

Now of course, I do use the Sweet16 emulator when I need speed or when I
want to quickly test out a program or see what it is.

Wholly Mindless

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Mar 20, 2012, 10:55:23 PM3/20/12
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D Finnigan wrote:
> Probably diagnostics disk.

The //gs has a built in diagnostic that although doesn't work floppy drives
does seem to do a decent job of identifying a good number of issues.

Thanks for the link at apple2.info for the details.

http://apple2.info/wiki/index.php?title=A2_Diagnostic

--
Wholly

Michael J. Mahon

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Mar 22, 2012, 2:47:03 PM3/22/12
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Built-in degaussers are simply connected to the AC supply through a
positive temperature coefficient (PTC) resistor. When the device is
cold, turning it on permits a surge of AC to pass through the coil,
which, over the course of a second or so, decreases to a very small
current, as the PTC resistor heats up. It usually continues to be
powered while the monitor is on, with a very small current flowing
while the resistor remains hot.

That is why the degausser only "thunks" when the monitor/TV is turned
on from a relatively cold state.

Since the most important time for it to work is after the monitor/TV
has been moved from one place to another (with consequent change in
orientation), it usually is cold when the degausser is needed.

To demagnitize a material, it must be subjected to an alternating
magnetizing force greater than its coercivity, which is then smoothly
decreased in magnitude to near zero. This has the effect of "walking"
the material down its hysteresis loop until the remanent magnetization
is almost zero, that is, until it is essentially demagnitized.

That's why the manual degaussing coils needed to be brought close to
the thing to be demagnitized, then moved away from it within a few
seconds (to decrease the AC field) until the field at the object was
near zero, then switched off.

The same coil can be used to magnetize by bringing it close to the
object and then switching it off. (If the current is interrupted near
a peak, then the object is left magnetized most strongly, so it can
take a few tries to switch off near a peak.)

-michael

NadaNet 3.1 for Apple II parallel computing!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

Michael J. Mahon

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Mar 22, 2012, 2:56:18 PM3/22/12
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Egan Ford wrote:
> On 3/16/12 2:33 PM, Wholly Mindless wrote:
>
>> Egan Ford wrote:
>
>
>>> except that it can start to look messed up if I adjust the horizontal
>>> placement.
>
>
>> Horizontal alignment never seems to something that GS monitors were
>> good at.
>> Most of the monitors I've ever seen in use all lean to the "left".
>
>
> Exactly. Left shifted. Otherwise perfect. I can adjust, however on
> restart it looks scattered. However moving the horizontal knob fixes it
> again.

I'm not sure what you mean by "scattered".

Does the IIgs monitor have a horizontal position control? It sounds
like it does, and if by "scattered" you mean that it is jumping
back and forth, then that control may be noisy and need cleaning with
potentiometer cleaning fluid.

Position controls for magnetic deflection monitors are low-resistance
units, often wire-wound, and are prone to developing electrical "noise"
due to the accumulation of dust and other contaminants between the
winding/element and the wiper. Cleaning usually does the trick.

If the raster is tilted ("leans"?) instead of simply horizontally
displaced, then the yoke has been twisted on the neck of the CRT and
will need to be readjusted after opening the case.

Some monitors (not sure about the IIgs RGB monitor) have horizontal
and vertical positioning magnets near the yoke that can be adjusted.

>> We look forward to seeing what you'll do with your new find!
>
>
> Thanks, it's going to take some time.
>
>


--

Ralph

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Apr 30, 2012, 5:52:23 PM4/30/12
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I've been thinking about adding microcontrollers and inexpensive FPGAs
to an Apple // to make more interesting
expansion cards.

One idea was for an Arduino platform, inside an Apple II. Once the
logic levels are converted, it would allow people
to do more experiements with their vintage Apples, as it would give
people the ability to add Arduino shields like
the Ethernet shield or Gameduino - the Gameduino (gameduino.com) is
interesting because it has an FPGA onboard.
Gameduino was a kickstarter project designed to allow you to implement
tiled videogames on the Arduino.

My Gameduino has a Xilinx SPARTAN chip, (XCS36200A) - and spaces for
the JTAG connections - repurposing
the FPGA would be the interesting part of this..along with the
challenges of addressing RAM with the device that
needs to store and retrieve something.

Ethernet shields are around $40 from various places, and the gameduino
is slightly over $50 from US distributors... possibly a
slight variation (perhaps with a different FPGA?) is apparently $29
(!) from CuteDigi...

http://tristesse.org/FPGA/CheapFPGADevelopmentBoards has details on
this and other boards

Is this kind of project (plugging and Arduino clone into an Apple II
expansion slot?) something
other Apple II // III, or //gs hardware users would be interested in?
What would you want to do with it?

Oliver Schmidt

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May 1, 2012, 4:22:39 AM5/1/12
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Hi Ralph,

>Is this kind of project (plugging and Arduino clone into an Apple II
>expansion slot?) something
>other Apple II // III, or //gs hardware users would be interested in?
>What would you want to do with it?

I could imagine people being interested in adding WiFi to their Apple
II...

http://www.otherbirds.com/1/post/2011/12/arduino-wifi-part-2.html
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10822

The RN-171 module used here contains a standalone WiFi & TCP/IP stack
plus i.e. FTP/HTTP code. In contrast to other similiar modules that
stack is used via "ASCII commands" rather than some binary control
structure. The vendor docs demonstrate how to interactively use the
module by typing commands into some serial comm program connected to
the module. See i.e. chapter 13 for HTTP client commands...

http://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/datasheets/Wireless/WiFi/WiFly-RN-UM.pdf

I envision typing PR#x and then using these commands from Applesoft or
BASIC.SYSTEM...

Regards,
Oliver

Bill Garber

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May 1, 2012, 7:25:13 AM5/1/12
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"Oliver Schmidt" <ol...@web.de> wrote in
message news:jno6ge$jjp$1...@online.de...
> Hi Ralph,
>
>> Is this kind of project (plugging and Arduino
>> clone into an Apple II expansion slot?) something
>> other Apple II // III, or //gs hardware users would
>> be interested in? What would you want to do with it?
>
> I could imagine people being interested in adding
> WiFi to their Apple II...

My IIgs already has WiFi. It's an Uthernet connected to
an IOGEAR WiFi adapter. It talks to my wireless router
via IP address the same as any other WiFi adapter.

There are probably others, too, as I got the info for it
from Eric (Sheppy) Shepard.

SEPA Electronics
http://www.sepa-electronics.com
Bill Garber


Sean Fahey

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May 1, 2012, 9:15:08 AM5/1/12
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On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 6:25:13 AM UTC-5, Bill Garber wrote:

> My IIgs already has WiFi. It's an Uthernet connected to
> an IOGEAR WiFi adapter. It talks to my wireless router
> via IP address the same as any other WiFi adapter.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/797584-REG/Iogear_GWU627_Universal_Wi_Fi_N_Adapter.html

This one?

Bill Garber

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May 1, 2012, 9:41:54 AM5/1/12
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"Sean Fahey" <a2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:15209627.177.1335878108326.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlt3...
Yep, that be the one. Except I got mine from NewEgg.com.

Wholly Mindless

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May 1, 2012, 9:50:31 AM5/1/12
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Bill Garber wrote:
> My IIgs already has WiFi. It's an Uthernet connected to
> an IOGEAR WiFi adapter. It talks to my wireless router
> via IP address the same as any other WiFi adapter.
>
> There are probably others, too, as I got the info for it
> from Eric (Sheppy) Shepard.

I just go from the uthernet into one of my plethora of Linksys WRT-54G
routers I have. With replacement firmware (maybe even the stock, but it
doesn't stay on more than an hour) they can do anything including a bridge
to a wireless network.

It's hard to beat awesome.

--
Wholly

Bill Garber

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May 1, 2012, 3:06:29 PM5/1/12
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"Wholly Mindless" <who...@whollymindless.com> wrote
in message news:wholly-1...@macgui.com...
You're right, it is awesome, and I ran cable to my IIgs and
IIe for well, since the Uthernet has been out. The point is,
I don't have a cable on mine, it's 'wireless!' :-)

If only we could get electricity to be wireless. Hee-hee!!!
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Michael J. Mahon

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rich12345 <aiia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 12:06 pm, "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> If only we could get electricity to be wireless. Hee-hee!!!
>>
>
> It's called a matched pair of tesla coils

...and no working radios within half a mile. ;-)

Scott Hemphill

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May 3, 2012, 3:55:08 PM5/3/12
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Here it is on the web:

http://www.gadgetmadness.com/2006/03/31/wireless-ac-power-extension-cords/

:-)

Scott
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"This isn't flying. This is falling, with style." -- Buzz Lightyear

Michael J. Mahon

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May 3, 2012, 6:29:28 PM5/3/12
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Scott Hemphill <hemp...@hemphills.net> wrote:
> Michael J. Mahon <mjm...@aol.com> writes:
>
>> rich12345 <aiia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On May 1, 12:06 pm, "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If only we could get electricity to be wireless. Hee-hee!!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's called a matched pair of tesla coils
>>
>> ...and no working radios within half a mile. ;-)
>>
>> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon
>
> Here it is on the web:
>
> http://www.gadgetmadness.com/2006/03/31/wireless-ac-power-extension-cords/
>
> :-)
>
> Scott

Nice, Scott!

And for those who don't get the joke--this is a joke. ;-)

Now for the YouTube video of the guy flying in his ornithopter making toast
using wireless power. ;-)
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