"Understanding the Apple II" as PDF - who can host?
Linards Ticmanis
I'm finally done with the "Understanding the Apple II" scan and conversion.
In case you still don't know, this is a very in-depth and also
surprisingly readable description of the inner workings of the Apple
II/II+ from an electronics and circuit-design point of view. Invaluable
for *really* understanding what the Apple does and how it does it.
The result of the scan is a PDF with the rather un-humble size of 81MB.
I wonder if there's anybody here who would not be daunted by that size
and would be willing to host it.
If you are, please give me instructions on where to upload it. You can
send them by mail if you don't feel like posting them in a public forum.
My e-mail address is valid.
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Linards Ticmanis
heuser...@freenet.de
> I wonder if there's anybody here who would not be daunted by that size
> and would be willing to host it.
rapidshare.de supports files up to 100 MB from unregistered users
but they only stay a month - unless you register (& pay for it).
Other than that, 1000bit.net always screams for more manuals ;-)
bye
Marcus
Henry .a.t.
I'd be glad to host the file for you. I haven't finished the downloads
section of our Site yet, but I do have plenty of bandwidth ready for use.
Just email me at this address or from my Website and I'll give you my FTP
Server info so you can upload the file.
Hope to hear from you soon!
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Henry S. Courbis
www.GSE-Reactive.com
Apple II Series Legacy Hardware - Come take a look at what we have to offer!
"Linards Ticmanis" <ticm...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Bryan Parkoff
No contact with Jim Sather for over years by asking a permission to
reproduce Understand the Apple II+ electroncially is illegal. It can
violate his copyright. Please look at the first page. It says not to
produce electronically without his permission.
Bryan Parkoff
"Linards Ticmanis" <ticm...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Paul R. Santa-Maria
> I'm finally done with the "Understanding the Apple II" scan and conversion.
Break it up into pieces and send it to the csa2 gmail account.
I did something similar to the Scanlon IIgs assembly book.
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Paul R. Santa-Maria
Monroe, Michigan USA
Linards Ticmanis
> No contact with Jim Sather for over years by asking a permission to
> reproduce Understand the Apple II+ electroncially is illegal. It can
> violate his copyright. Please look at the first page. It says not to
> produce electronically without his permission.
Bryan,
I'm aware that making this available is against the law, but I'm not
planning to step on anybody's toes. I asked around here if anybody knew
about Jim or about Quality Software, before I started to scan it.
The consensus seemed to be that nobody had any recent news about Jim or
knew how to contact him.
The point of what I'm doing is not to hurt Jim's Sales. The book is
out-of-print for a long time and difficult to get in some areas of the
world. And even if you do manage to get an old copy, Jim will most
likely be none the richer for it, since I doubt that many copies exist
which haven't been sold at least once. The point is making something
available that's unavailable to many people - not making money out of
somebody else's work.
If you have a contact address for Jim (I don't really understand if
that's what you're saying), please by all means tell me about it. I'll
not publish anything before I get your answer.
And of course, I ask the eventual hoster to pull this at once, should
Jim or whoever holds the rights actually resurface and ask for this.
In Germany we have a saying, "where's no plaintiff, there's no judge".
IMHO the law of copyright is there to protect the rights of specific
people, not as an abstract body of law that should regulate people's
behaviour no matter what the effect.
Please reply to the group, not by mail.
Best wishes,
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Linards Ticmanis
Bryan Parkoff
Linards,
Thank you for the concern of copyright. It is a possibility that Jim
Sather is no longer participle in the Apple II Community. To respect his
copyright not to reproduce book electronically and/or sell to the public. A
copy of book has to be shown at no charge when people appreciate to learn
reading it. They must respect the author when they promise not to sell
copies which they are reprinted into new book or electronic book.
I indicate to say when people are welcome to receive copies for free
while they have agreement not to sell for making money.
Unfortunately, I have no contact nor address of Jim Sather. I have a
copy of Understanding the Apple II+ and Apple //e as two books.
When you are ready to post PDF on the hosting, I suggest what you need
to make an agreement to respect copyright by answering yes or no before they
are welcome to download.
I hope that it makes sense.
Bryan Parkoff
Liam Busey
Bryan Parkoff wrote:
> Linards,
>
> No contact with Jim Sather for over years by asking a permission to
> reproduce Understand the Apple II+ electroncially is illegal. It can
> violate his copyright. Please look at the first page. It says not to
> produce electronically without his permission.
>
> Bryan Parkoff
It is unfortunate that Jim Sather in unreachable. I would love to
purchase a copy of Understanding the Apple //e but have been unable to
find one. Is there a source? Used copies are unfortunately rare and
tend to sell for more then when the book was new. There doesn't appear
to be enough for everyone.
This is perhaps the most important work for the hobby. What is one to
do?
Liam
Bryan Parkoff
"Liam Busey" <bus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Please read my earlier second post. It says that people must agree when
they download PDF for free and promise not to sell for money by respecting
Jim Sather's copyright.
Bryan Parkoff
mdj
> They must respect the author when they promise not to sell
> copies which they are reprinted into new book or electronic book.
> I indicate to say when people are welcome to receive copies for free
> while they have agreement not to sell for making money.
> Unfortunately, I have no contact nor address of Jim Sather. I have a
> copy of Understanding the Apple II+ and Apple //e as two books.
> When you are ready to post PDF on the hosting, I suggest what you need
> to make an agreement to respect copyright by answering yes or no before they
> are welcome to download.
> I hope that it makes sense.
Brian,
At the risk of starting a flame war, I feel I must point this out:
Copyright is copyright. Whether or not you, I or anyone else feels that
since something is out of production and the author not contactable is
grounds to distribute it is irrelevant. Law is law.
While I agree in essence with your principles that as long as nobody
else is personally profitting, that redistributing Copyrighted works is
okay, I don't feel that it is sensible that people be forced to agree
to what is in effect a license to obtain a copy.
What you are essentially saying is this: "What I'm doing, by providing
this copy to you is illegal, but I will give you a copy for free, as
long as you agree to provide it to others under the same conditions."
It's a fine principle, sure, but really, the Copyright notice is
preserved in the text. It's up to individuals to decide to what extent
they're prepared to bend Copyright law.
Matt
Michael J. Mahon
I understand that the US legislature is now considering modifications to
copyright law to cover cases of "orphan works", where the owner of the
copyright cannot be located. Perhaps something sensible will soon be
done.
-michael
Parallel computing for 8-bit Apple II's!
Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/
"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it is seriously underused."
logjam
mdj
Michael J. Mahon wrote:
> I understand that the US legislature is now considering modifications to
> copyright law to cover cases of "orphan works", where the owner of the
> copyright cannot be located. Perhaps something sensible will soon be
> done.
We can hope... In Australia the Copyright Act hasn't been updated since
1968. Yes, 1968. The only fair use clause we have is for educational
purposes. This means that things like making copies of audio media,
computer media, et al is actually illegal under Australian Copyright
Law. Strictly speaking, you can only legally use audio on an iPod that
has been specifically licensed to allow such things.
Fortunately we're getting updates soon as well, but I don't think it
will cover orphaned works. I suppose we'll just continue to do what we
do now: Defer to the Copyright Act of the country of origin when
determining what we can reasonably do with material.
Matt
sicklittlemonkey
> In Australia the Copyright Act hasn't been updated since 1968.
> Fortunately we're getting updates soon
Have you checked out what the 'updates' entail!? When you timeshift a
piece of media, you will legally be able to play it *one* time only!
How's that for progress!
Hope you're keeping up to date with this. Plenty if you google, eg:
http://elearningrandomwalk.blogspot.com/2006/05/australia-copyright-proposal-step.html
Being a Kiwi I'm worried about what's going on next door.
Cheers,
Nick.
mdj
sicklittlemonkey wrote:
> mdj wrote:
> > In Australia the Copyright Act hasn't been updated since 1968.
> ...
> > Fortunately we're getting updates soon
>
> Have you checked out what the 'updates' entail!? When you timeshift a
> piece of media, you will legally be able to play it *one* time only!
> How's that for progress!
Amusing isn't it ? At least we'll be able to have timeshifting hardware
we can hack, as opposed to now, where such hardware can be prevented
from entering the market at all. But agreed, not much progress.
> Being a Kiwi I'm worried about what's going on next door.
Oh, I'm keeping up. The most disturbing issues though are the
integration of the DMCA into out own system as a part of the US-AU FTA.
These extensions to Copyright are absolutely terrifying. At least in
the US there are fair-use restrictions that contradict the Act,
providing at least some means of appeal in the event of a dispute. In
Australia where there is no such fair use (yet) the ramifications of
such additions are mind bogglingly awful.
Anyway, this is comp.sys.apple2, so I won't rant about it, happy to
converse via email though...
Matt
Linards Ticmanis
thanks to the friendly offers of numerous persons to host this file, it
is now available in at least two locations:
> http://memo5.dyndns.org/Manuels/Ordinateurs/Apple/Apple2x/UnderstandingTheAppleII/uaii.pdf
and
> http://www.callapple.org/node/235
It is also scheduled to appear in at least one more place, namely at
http://www.1000bit.net , in the near future.
As I said before, this file is VERY LARGE, 80MB to be exact. Please do
some load balancing using trailing-edge technology: throw a coin before
you download. Heads means use the first site, tails means use the second
one. ;-)
And please try to avoid multiple downloads, I wouldn't want any of the
sites to get into bandwidth or volume trouble.
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Linards Ticmanis
Linards Ticmanis
> It is also scheduled to appear in at least one more place, namely at
> http://www.1000bit.net , in the near future.
It's now there, at the page
> http://www.1000bit.net/support/manuali/manuali.asp
so now you'll just need to find yourself a three side coin... ;-)
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Linards Ticmanis
Scott Alfter
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Linards Ticmanis <ticm...@gmx.de> wrote:
>thanks to the friendly offers of numerous persons to host this file, it
>is now available in at least two locations:
>
>http://memo5.dyndns.org/Manuels/Ordinateurs/Apple/Apple2x/UnderstandingTheAppleII/uaii.pdf
>
>and
>
>> http://www.callapple.org/node/235
>
>It is also scheduled to appear in at least one more place, namely at
>http://www.1000bit.net , in the near future.
And then there were four:
http://alfter.us/files/uaii.pdf
Other Apple II stuff is listed with it here:
http://alfter.us/computers.shtml
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Linards Ticmanis
Coin II -- Hypercoin ;-)
Thanks for hosting,
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Linards Ticmanis