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work presentation using an Apple IIe

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Vince Weaver

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May 16, 2012, 4:52:36 PM5/16/12
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I thought this might be of interest here.

I did a work presentation using an Apple IIe. It actually
went surprisingly well and was well received.

More details can be found here:
http://www.deater.net/weave/vmwprod/apple/presentation/

Vince

Ben

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May 16, 2012, 6:22:55 PM5/16/12
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That's fantastic.

Ben

Egan Ford

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May 16, 2012, 6:25:41 PM5/16/12
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Great hack. Next time build an AppleCrate
(http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/AppleCrateII.html) and use a matrix of
16 projectors for double double double double hires and 2^4 more
nerdcred. You could also add 16 channels of sound. :-)

"Why not use something less powerful?"

Given the increasing interest in the Green500 (and that the topic of
your PPT was Energy/Power profiling), the iPad was actually more energy
efficient.

Vince Weaver

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May 16, 2012, 10:28:10 PM5/16/12
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On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:25:41 PM UTC-4, Egan Ford wrote:

> "Why not use something less powerful?"
>
> Given the increasing interest in the Green500 (and that the topic of
> your PPT was Energy/Power profiling), the iPad was actually more energy
> efficient.

True enough, though at 18W the IIe is better than the macbookpro I might have used otherwise that draws 32W, at least while running Linux.

If you watch the video you'll see a dev board on my desk hooked to the LED display. It's an ARM Cortex A9 pandaboard and we can get at least 1 GFLOP/s out of it while only drawing 5W. Probably more useful than a massive array of 6502s but not as much fun.

Vince

BLuRry

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May 18, 2012, 11:13:32 AM5/18/12
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Interesting. According to PowerTop, my Toshiba laptop (pre sandy-bridge Core i7, running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit) idles at 9.5 watts, assuming dim display and deactivated WiFi) and only jumps up to 15 watts when in active use. Granted, it gets into the 20s if I open something that hammers on the CPU/GPU. Not as pretty as a macbook, but I have more than enough money left over to wipe my tears of anguish with 100-dollar bills and still have spent less money than I would for a macbook.

This makes me wonder: Is PowerTop inaccurate compared to a real physical measurement tool?

-Brendan

Vince Weaver

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May 18, 2012, 11:55:28 AM5/18/12
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On Friday, May 18, 2012 11:13:32 AM UTC-4, BLuRry wrote:

> Interesting. According to PowerTop, my Toshiba laptop (pre sandy-bridge Core i7, running Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit) idles at 9.5 watts, assuming dim display and deactivated WiFi) and only jumps up to 15 watts when in active use. Granted, it gets into the 20s if I open something that hammers on the CPU/GPU. Not as pretty as a macbook, but I have more than enough money left over to wipe my tears of anguish with 100-dollar bills and still have spent less money than I would for a macbook.
>
> This makes me wonder: Is PowerTop inaccurate compared to a real physical measurement tool?

The macbook pro is 32W with backlight on full, and wireless and wired ethernet enabled. X11 is not running though.

I am measuring this with a WattsUpPro power meter, so it also includes any AC/DC conversion inefficiencies. I'm not sure exactly sure how powertop measures power; I'm guessing through ACPI somehow? The macbook doesn't report power if I run powertop on it.

Vince

BLuRry

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May 18, 2012, 7:38:49 PM5/18/12
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I think that powertop uses ACPI. Also, try running it as root -- it doesn't do much in userland on its own. :-D

-B
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