This is something I want to be sure of - do you need a modem to transfer files from a PC to an Apple//? I'm talking about transfers with Hyperterm on the PC and Proterm on the Apple. I know you don't with ADT, but not all the files I want to transfer are in .dsk format.
Here's the deal - I have two PC's. The older one has a working modem, but is considerably slower than the other, and can't do half the stuff the newer one can. The modem recently died in the newer one. What I'd like to do is put the modem from the older one into the newer one and just use the older one to transfer files onto my Apples. They both have floppy drives, the newer one has a CD burner on it, while the older one just has a CD ROM. I figure if I need files off the internet, I could use the newer one to burn them on CD or put them onto floppies, then do the transfers with the older one. There isn't enough room upstairs to keep my Apples hooked up to my newer one, and there isn't a phone line I can use in my basement workshop. So, will my plan work, or not?
julian814 wrote: > This is something I want to be sure of - do you need a modem to > transfer files from a PC to an Apple//? I'm talking about transfers > with Hyperterm on the PC and Proterm on the Apple. I know you don't > with ADT, but not all the files I want to transfer are in .dsk format.
> Here's the deal - I have two PC's. The older one has a working modem, > but is considerably slower than the other, and can't do half the stuff > the newer one can. The modem recently died in the newer one. What I'd > like to do is put the modem from the older one into the newer one and > just use the older one to transfer files onto my Apples. They both have > floppy drives, the newer one has a CD burner on it, while the older one > just has a CD ROM. I figure if I need files off the internet, I could > use the newer one to burn them on CD or put them onto floppies, then do > the transfers with the older one. There isn't enough room upstairs to > keep my Apples hooked up to my newer one, and there isn't a phone line > I can use in my basement workshop. So, will my plan work, or not?
> Ralph Glatt
IMHO just using a null modem cable is much easier than what it sounds like you are trying to do. Buying an older Mac (like a Quadra or something) is the easiiest way to do it. My mac Quadra can get on the web, so I just download stuff straight from the web and put it on ProDOS formatted disks.
julian814 wrote: > This is something I want to be sure of - do you need a modem to > transfer files from a PC to an Apple//? I'm talking about transfers > with Hyperterm on the PC and Proterm on the Apple. I know you don't > with ADT, but not all the files I want to transfer are in .dsk format.
> Here's the deal - I have two PC's. The older one has a working modem, > but is considerably slower than the other, and can't do half the stuff > the newer one can. The modem recently died in the newer one. What I'd > like to do is put the modem from the older one into the newer one and > just use the older one to transfer files onto my Apples. They both have > floppy drives, the newer one has a CD burner on it, while the older one > just has a CD ROM. I figure if I need files off the internet, I could > use the newer one to burn them on CD or put them onto floppies, then do > the transfers with the older one. There isn't enough room upstairs to > keep my Apples hooked up to my newer one, and there isn't a phone line > I can use in my basement workshop. So, will my plan work, or not?
Sure, just make sure your terminal software sets matching baud rates, data bits, stop bits and parity. Also make sure the baud rate you use is handled on the Apple side. It seems like 9600 usually works best but for the GS you should be able to go higher.
I suggest ProTerm for the Apple. AFAIK, it's still available for sale pretty cheap on the web. There are other terminal softwares available but ProTerm is so useful even when offline.
Another thought, try ADT for writing disk images directly.
Chris Alaimo (Jibbajaba) wrote: > julian814 wrote: > > This is something I want to be sure of - do you need a modem to > > transfer files from a PC to an Apple//? I'm talking about transfers > > with Hyperterm on the PC and Proterm on the Apple. I know you don't > > with ADT, but not all the files I want to transfer are in .dsk format.
> > Here's the deal - I have two PC's. The older one has a working modem, > > but is considerably slower than the other, and can't do half the stuff > > the newer one can. The modem recently died in the newer one. What I'd > > like to do is put the modem from the older one into the newer one and > > just use the older one to transfer files onto my Apples. They both have > > floppy drives, the newer one has a CD burner on it, while the older one > > just has a CD ROM. I figure if I need files off the internet, I could > > use the newer one to burn them on CD or put them onto floppies, then do > > the transfers with the older one. There isn't enough room upstairs to > > keep my Apples hooked up to my newer one, and there isn't a phone line > > I can use in my basement workshop. So, will my plan work, or not?
> > Ralph Glatt
> IMHO just using a null modem cable is much easier than what it sounds > like you are trying to do. Buying an older Mac (like a Quadra or > something) is the easiiest way to do it. My mac Quadra can get on the > web, so I just download stuff straight from the web and put it on ProDOS > formatted disks.
Okay, I guess I haven't made myself clear. My internet connection is on the second floor of my house, and the room I have it in doesn't have enough room to have more than one computer set up at one time. If it did, then yeah, I'd go with the null modem connection. I do have a Mac, but it doesn't have a floppy drive on it, and I really can't afford to get any more equipment right now. What I have will have to do for now. The main thing is that now I know that I can make the transfer from PC to Apple// using a serial connection, which should be good enough for my purposes. Thanks, anyway.
BluPhoenyx wrote: > julian814 wrote: > > This is something I want to be sure of - do you need a modem to > > transfer files from a PC to an Apple//? I'm talking about transfers > > with Hyperterm on the PC and Proterm on the Apple. I know you don't > > with ADT, but not all the files I want to transfer are in .dsk format.
> > Here's the deal - I have two PC's. The older one has a working modem, > > but is considerably slower than the other, and can't do half the stuff > > the newer one can. The modem recently died in the newer one. What I'd > > like to do is put the modem from the older one into the newer one and > > just use the older one to transfer files onto my Apples. They both have > > floppy drives, the newer one has a CD burner on it, while the older one > > just has a CD ROM. I figure if I need files off the internet, I could > > use the newer one to burn them on CD or put them onto floppies, then do > > the transfers with the older one. There isn't enough room upstairs to > > keep my Apples hooked up to my newer one, and there isn't a phone line > > I can use in my basement workshop. So, will my plan work, or not?
> Sure, just make sure your terminal software sets matching baud rates, > data bits, stop bits and parity. Also make sure the baud rate you use is > handled on the Apple side. It seems like 9600 usually works best but for > the GS you should be able to go higher.
> I suggest ProTerm for the Apple. AFAIK, it's still available for sale > pretty cheap on the web. There are other terminal softwares available > but ProTerm is so useful even when offline.
> Another thought, try ADT for writing disk images directly.
Thanks, Mike. I do have Proterm, so that should be no problem. One of the reasons I'd kinda like to have the software on CD is so I have an easy, compact archive of software, so I won't have to download off the net all the time. I have ADT, but I'm not sure how I'd be able to use it to convert software off the net into .dsk images. Anyway, it shouldn't be long before I'm in business. ;-)
> This is something I want to be sure of - do you need a modem to > transfer files from a PC to an Apple//? I'm talking about transfers > with Hyperterm on the PC and Proterm on the Apple. I know you don't > with ADT, but not all the files I want to transfer are in .dsk format.
You can transfer files directly using a NULL modem cable connection. Information is included in the FAQs at ...
> I figure if I need files off the internet, I could > use the newer one to burn them on CD or put them onto floppies, then do > the transfers with the older one. There isn't enough room upstairs to > keep my Apples hooked up to my newer one, and there isn't a phone line > I can use in my basement workshop. So, will my plan work, or not?
> I have ADT, but I'm not sure how I'd be able to use > it to convert software off the net into .dsk images.
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ADT can not convert files to .dsk images. ADT will convert a whole 5.25" diskette on an Apple II to a .dsk image file on a PC when it does a transfer from an Apple II to a PC.
You know what's cool? I have a Zip drive on my GS, and I have a Zip drive in my PC. I can transfer files by sticking a prodos formatted Zip disk in my PC and use CiderPress to copy back and forth...
>> This is something I want to be sure of - do you need a modem to >> transfer files from a PC to an Apple//? I'm talking about transfers >> with Hyperterm on the PC and Proterm on the Apple. I know you don't >> with ADT, but not all the files I want to transfer are in .dsk format.
> You can transfer files directly using a NULL modem cable connection. > Information is included in the FAQs at ...
>> I figure if I need files off the internet, I could >> use the newer one to burn them on CD or put them onto floppies, then do >> the transfers with the older one. There isn't enough room upstairs to >> keep my Apples hooked up to my newer one, and there isn't a phone line >> I can use in my basement workshop. So, will my plan work, or not?
> You know what's cool? I have a Zip drive on my GS, and I have a Zip drive > in my PC. I can transfer files by sticking a prodos formatted Zip disk in > my PC and use CiderPress to copy back and forth...
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:55:03 GMT, Rubywand <rubyw...@swbell.net> wrote:
>Terry Olsen writes ...
>> You know what's cool? I have a Zip drive on my GS, and I have a Zip drive >> in my PC. I can transfer files by sticking a prodos formatted Zip disk in >> my PC and use CiderPress to copy back and forth...
> Could you go into more detail about the process?
>Rubywand
I'm not sure how Terry does it, but I do a similar Zip disk shuffle. I've got MacOpener on my PC which lets me access HFS-formatted media. It's a snap to transfer images that way. Granted, MacOpener isn't free...
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